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Mr. Satch aka Marco is going to the US in February

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Satch - 08 Jan 2005 18:22 GMT
Good day all,

This E-mail is supposed to be ironic or kind of "Friday 13th" magic / fate /
doom like...so, hang on tight, sit down in your chair and read carefully...

Just a minute ago I received an E-mail from my boss that the three weeks
company (training) event is going to be rescheduled to February 14 till
March 04 2005. So, this means that I am flying with Northwest Airlines on
Saturday, Februrary 13, 2005.

For anyone that does not know my history, on February 13, 2004, I had a
company (fun) event as well and we went on a mini cruise to the UK. That
night, I drank too much booze with my colleagues and did not catch much
sleep and had loads of fun that night. I also had to organize that trip to
the UK -we went on a minicruise by the way with 40 people, so I was a little
bit stressed out before the fun began. The fun ended abruptly in the UK as I
had my first tonic clonic seizure the day after -the first one I had in my
life though I have a history of epilepsy (absence epilepsy) which I outgrown
successfully when I was a teenager. I had been seizure free for more then 15
years without medication.

The good news is, as many of you guys know already, I have been seizure free
since February 14, 2004 with medication.

So, I am flying on Saturday, February 13, 2005 and because of time zone
differences, I am not going to catch much sleep and I am a little bit
excided already (I may add some stress to this when the February comes
nearby) as I am travelling to the US alone this time and I have no idea what
to expect or what I need to do in regards to that event. Isn't this funny?
When I arrive in the US, I am eligible to drive again (let's assume the
Dutch driving laws are similar to US driving laws) because I have been
seizure free for one year. When I arrive in the US (I checked the airline
schedule as I need to book the flight myself), it is almost the same time as
I had my first tonic clonic seizure. When I check in to enter the US with my
green card or whatever I need, it is the same time my colleagues checked me
in to the the hospital while I was unconsciousness. Go figure.

Anyways, no worries, because I won't rent a car but I am glad this year we
do not have "Friday, February 13" though I do not believe in this stuff.

Oeioeioei...

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Marco
The Netherlands

kompressor - 09 Jan 2005 05:36 GMT
Go get 'em Marco! You can have loads of fun and be just as stupid as the
next guy without the aid of alcohol. I've not had an alcoholic drink for
twelve years now and don't miss it at all. Just think, you can wake up the
next day without a hangover like your buddies may be experiencing and offer
to check anyone who's 'disabled' into the local ER like they kindly did for
you last year ;-)

My girlfriend has a standard joke that always brings out the humour in
people as we say our good-byes to everyone at a function or social
gathering of any description. She nods in my direction and with a wink
loudly complains "Just my luck aye - the designated driver I get is an
epileptic! Ah well life's a gamble I guess".

You'll enjoy being the dependable one and getting back behind that wheel
is worth all the pseudo-insults that can be leveled at you.

Enjoy!
Fran
Satch - 09 Jan 2005 06:04 GMT
> Go get 'em Marco! You can have loads of fun and be just as stupid as the
> next guy without the aid of alcohol. I've not had an alcoholic drink for
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> for
> you last year ;-)

Cheers Fran!

No, I won't take any alcohol for the rest of my life! I learned my lesson.
As a teenager I ignored all my mother's warnings about drinking alcohol on
Saturday nights -actually I never told her I took some drinks so she did not
know and I live on my own.

What I wanted to say here is that I think it is quite bizar that on the
exact same day of the year, though one year later, the day I should get my
license back again, I am being expressed to a mixture of exhaustion and
stress (cannot tell how much stress right now) again. If I get another
seizure kicks in because of this, then it is my fate / destiny / Friday 13
doom thinking.

> My girlfriend has a standard joke that always brings out the humour in
> people as we say our good-byes to everyone at a function or social
> gathering of any description. She nods in my direction and with a wink
> loudly complains "Just my luck aye - the designated driver I get is an
> epileptic! Ah well life's a gamble I guess".

Hehe...that is a good one. Before my first seizure I did not like driving.
After my first seizure I still did not like driving. I like being in the
passengers seat and complain about the driver's driving habbits -hehe. I
also do not have a car. When I had to buy furniture in a shop, I usually
rented a car. That is only time I drove a car myself. So, I have not been
buying furniture and stuff that cost me a hell of a fortune for almost one
year now. Right now my bank account is also extremelyh happy -go figure! Oh
well, I guess when I get back in March and when everything went well -I do
hope so, then I guess I will start going shopping again. That is the end of
worldwide economic recession I guess! I tell you: March.

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Marco
The Netherlands

CyberCafe - 09 Jan 2005 18:30 GMT
> Good day all,
>
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> nearby) as I am travelling to the US alone this time and I have no idea what
> to expect or what I need to do in regards to that event.

What part of the US?  What kind of concerns do you have?  Is it the people,
getting lost, or something else?

> Isn't this funny?
> When I arrive in the US, I am eligible to drive again (let's assume the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Anyways, no worries, because I won't rent a car but I am glad this year we
> do not have "Friday, February 13" though I do not believe in this stuff.

You know, you have some advantages now.  You're on medication, you know you
can't drink, you know you need sleep, you aren't going to have the social
pressure from your friends to do things you shouldn't.  I can definitely
understand why you are thinking about your anniversary of the event; I would
think about that too.   If sleep deprivation is a big factor for you, tell your
doctor and see what help he/she can offer before your trip.  If you get a
chance, read up on natural light exposure and its relation to sleep or find some
information on how shift workers deal with this.

Barb

> Oeioeioei...
>
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> Marco
> The Netherlands
Satch - 09 Jan 2005 22:15 GMT
Hi Barb,

> What part of the US?  What kind of concerns do you have?  Is it the
> people,
> getting lost, or something else?

Seattle, WA. Primary concern is, though I am not really stressed out because
of this, sleep deprivation. It is like going back in time and doing the
wrong things again, doing it at the wrong time in combination with doing
this at the wrong place as well!

> You know, you have some advantages now.  You're on medication, you know
> you
> can't drink, you know you need sleep, you aren't going to have the social
> pressure from your friends to do things you shouldn't

Yes, that is definitely true. I changed life style drastically and I now
know what I need for personal health.

> I can definitely
> understand why you are thinking about your anniversary of the event; I
> would
> think about that too.

You win the bonus here. This is the reason why I wrote this message. It is
like celebrating your "anniversary" at the wrong place, at the wrong time,
at/in (?) the wrong time zone, without the people that matters to me, etc.

> If sleep deprivation is a big factor for you, tell your
> doctor and see what help he/she can offer before your trip

The neurologist I saw last week told me the following: take an additional
pill the first day when you arrive at US breakfast, lunch or dinner times
(depening on when you arrive of course). I guess that is a good trick to
prevent anything from happening and maybe it is a good help to have me start
sleeping during day times as well.

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Marco
The Netherlands

CyberCafe - 10 Jan 2005 18:29 GMT
> Hi Barb,
>
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> wrong things again, doing it at the wrong time in combination with doing
> this at the wrong place as well!

Do you have a medic alert piece of jewelry or something else that identifies
your medical condition in case something does happen?  I don't expect anything
to happen, I mean, but it might help make you feel safer to wear one of these
identifiers.  In the US, medical people look for those things on a patient.

> > You know, you have some advantages now.  You're on medication, you know
> > you
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> like celebrating your "anniversary" at the wrong place, at the wrong time,
> at/in (?) the wrong time zone, without the people that matters to me, etc.

Is this like an emotional attachment to these other people or are you looking to
those other people for help in a physical sense (like having someone move the
furniture, watch you, etc.)?  Your type of seizure disorder is different than
mine, but I feel like this is something we are going through alone most of the
time.  I mean, there are lots of us who have seizures that are not witnessed by
anybody, so there's no one around to help us at those times.

> > If sleep deprivation is a big factor for you, tell your
> > doctor and see what help he/she can offer before your trip
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> prevent anything from happening and maybe it is a good help to have me start
> sleeping during day times as well.

Good.  Good.

Barb

> --
> Thanks.
>
> Marco
> The Netherlands
Satch - 10 Jan 2005 21:17 GMT
Hi Barb,

> Do you have a medic alert piece of jewelry or something else that
> identifies
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> identifiers.  In the US, medical people look for those things on a
> patient.

Yep, I have and I will wear it all the time.

> Is this like an emotional attachment to these other people or are you
> looking to
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> witnessed by
> anybody, so there's no one around to help us at those times.

It is just that I want to finish this year without incidents. One year of
being seizure free should be finished without incidents. It is like a mile
stone; I suffered from it, I brought the artillery in place, I fought
against it and I survived while the cold war is still ongoing so to speak.
That is all. I want to celebrate this at home, with my family, but on the
other hand, it is a great opportunity as well in regards to my work. Meeting
all these people within US counterpart, I can start up some networking, I
can build up business relationships, etc. I am excited about this event you
know. I don't care about furniture, when I had my first seizure it was in
middle of a busy crossing in the middle of a town called New Castle.There
was nothing to move except that some drivers had to be very carefull but I
do understand the meaning of what you are trying to tell me and I do
appreciate it a lot.

Cheers,
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Marco
The Netherlands

Mary Fisher - 10 Jan 2005 20:21 GMT
>> What part of the US?
>
> Seattle, WA.

I wish I were going. I love Seattle. I love Washington State.

Both times I went I had pretty bad sleep deprivation but only because I
wanted to look out of the window all the time so didn't sleep at all until I
was picked up in a car by my friends. Even then I was excited but simply
couldn't stay awake.

Losing sleep - for whatever reason - brings its own problems. I was lucky in
that I was staying with friends and they cared for me from plane to
destination. Even so I one or two incidents the second time - not grand mals
but things which were fairly new and strange to me and so I was worried. I
suspect I had more during that time than before and after - although when I
came home I did have a major seizure and went to the doctor for the first
time.

I want you to enjoy the trip but I want you not to worry. So you'll have to
be careful. Although, as someone else said, you're medicated so will be in a
better state than I was - because my condition was unknown.

If you go up the Space Needle remember that I once drove it!

Mary
Satch - 10 Jan 2005 21:35 GMT
Hi Mary,

> I wish I were going. I love Seattle. I love Washington State.
>
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> was picked up in a car by my friends. Even then I was excited but simply
> couldn't stay awake.

Actually, I have been there before -that was 7 years ago :-)

> Losing sleep - for whatever reason - brings its own problems. I was lucky
> in
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> came home I did have a major seizure and went to the doctor for the first
> time.

I guess this is also such a "bad memory day" for you then; as is February
now for me?

> I want you to enjoy the trip but I want you not to worry. So you'll have
> to
> be careful. Although, as someone else said, you're medicated so will be in
> a
> better state than I was - because my condition was unknown.

I will enjoy the trip as much as possible and I do appreciate the advantages
I have comparing to you at that time regaring our conditions.

> If you go up the Space Needle remember that I once drove it!

Ah...I went to Seattle 7 years ago and I saw / climbed the Space Needle.
Great view! That was in the good old days and yes. I will probably climb it
again to catch up some good old memories :-)

Thanks for the updates Bart / Mary!
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Marco
The Netherlands

Mary Fisher - 10 Jan 2005 21:44 GMT
>> I wish I were going. I love Seattle. I love Washington State.
>>
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>
> Actually, I have been there before -that was 7 years ago :-)

Oh well, it's not a novelty :-)

>> ...  when I
>> came home I did have a major seizure and went to the doctor for the first
>> time.
>
> I guess this is also such a "bad memory day" for you then; as is February
> now for me?

It was 15 February. I celebrate it every year. And the day of the surgery!
And when my cancer was found and the day of that surgery too.

I'm glad to be alive and able to celebrate!

> I will enjoy the trip as much as possible and I do appreciate the
> advantages
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> it
> again to catch up some good old memories :-)

I didn't climb it. My friend was old and crippled. But I got in the lift and
was allowed to press the button!

> Thanks for the updates Bart / Mary!

Keep us informed about your trip. If I can't do it myslef I want to enjoy it
vicariously!

Mary
G.Ross - 17 Jan 2005 05:37 GMT
> Hi Barb,
>> What part of the US?  What kind of concerns do you have?  Is it the
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>> If sleep deprivation is a big factor for you, tell your
>> doctor and see what help he/she can offer before your trip
**************** G. See my comment below in long part.

> The neurologist I saw last week told me the following: take an additional
> pill the first day when you arrive at US breakfast, lunch or dinner times
> (depending on when you arrive of course). I guess that is a good trick to
> prevent anything from happening and maybe it is a good help to have me
> start
> sleeping during day times as well.
*** G That would probaby help correct for West ward trip and time changes
above, I wonder how that works going back?  I guess the same could apply,
since you've used the current doses long enough to have a idea how they feel
when they're too high or too low? with respect to your blood levels.
(Often We know what's best just by what we feel.)  //

> Thanks.
> Marco
> The Netherlands

Man !! With a 'Name' like above (Satch), I assumed you were Going to New
Orleans.  We all could have met you there !!!  It's almost 30C there now
(86F).
**************
  When I went to Hawaii I was surprised how hard the Seats had become.  I
used to sleep during flights, and even the 2-3 books I took weren't boring
enough to help.

   If you have any kind of enclosure anxiety (*I thought I'd have, so asked
here, but didn't as it turned out) -- would your Dr. consider one of the
Relaxants you can carry in the Prescription bottle.***
*** Before I was controlled for CP Seizures, I finally got a small amount of
Lorazepam (1mg) = Ativan Sublingual.   That is a tablet about the size of a
saccharine tab. that can be put under the tongue and dissolves there in
under ~8 minutes.  *That one used to make me tired within about an hour, but
I never had to use any going either way this time (first time I've flown
since szr. onset in 1993.  But before I was controlled during 1995-7, it
sure put a Lid on an Aura to keep it going on to a CP seizure, like I had at
first from 1993-5).

   I found Flying **Westward no problem, except time passes, but the Flight
so long as you're in the air, basically keeps up with the Sun, so 5 hours
from 10AM will likely mean you'll land in E. Canada or U.S. about same time
as you Left Netherlands? or UK.   So here it is 10 AM but your Body feels
like 3 PM.  Depending how long the Layover is and Customs etc. (likely you
clear those in Europe? before boarding), so when you get off you just have
to see if your Bags arrived or went to Italy ! :-<

   Howdy might know, but then I think you take your bags off, then
Re-Check-in to the next Leg of the flight, and depending on the Layover
time, you might need to put them in a storage locker, as most flights now
may not let you check bags e.g. 5 hours before a flight.  *Also you'll be
glad to know, someone who checks a Bag but doesn't Board the plane, the
Plane sits at the Dock until the 'spare bags' are removed...   Extra level
of controls with the New Age of travel.
 Also (this too was new), None of our bags were Locked, for our trip to
Vancouver then Hawaii.  If their x-rays show they might want to open your
bags, they'll cut the locks or not board them if they need to.

  (*I carried my Meds. on since I didn't want to be separated from them,
but still put mine through the Xray scanner although one of the Drs. said I
could ask to have them visually checked, but didn't indicate that it was
mandatory for the pills (Tegretol and Clobazam) .  I also kept them in the
original Prescription Bottles with the ID no. and Drs. name etc. on the
bottle. )
**************
   I hope you enjoy the west.  If you see 'Bill' (Gates),  if you're near
Redmond, tell him I'm not Bitter,  I didn't need those 4 years of Folders
and Files that trying to load xp2 might have Discarded.    It's just as well
I'm not Exxon or IBM or someone who'd have a reason to complain about
Business impacts involved in losing 4 year's history and work.  It's just
Murphy (of Murphy's Law),  still has controlling interest in Shares on the
market-- even Bill's.      G./
Satch - 19 Jan 2005 22:43 GMT
> *** G That would probaby help correct for West ward trip and time changes
> above, I wonder how that works going back?  I guess the same could apply,
> since you've used the current doses long enough to have a idea how they
> feel
> when they're too high or too low? with respect to your blood levels.
> (Often We know what's best just by what we feel.)  //

My blood levels are quite steady as I am using the "extended release".

> Man !! With a 'Name' like above (Satch), I assumed you were Going to New
> Orleans.  We all could have met you there !!!  It's almost 30C there now
> (86F).

I play electical guitar in an amateur band and the guitarist I love
listening too is Mr. Joe Satriani (aka Satch). So, that is why there is the
name Satch. My E-mail address is real and is an alias I was able to create
for the E-mail address I registered with my ISP. So, when I get 1,000
messages of spam, I delete the alias and create another one without
bothering contacting the ISP. Works like a charm and people can E-mail me if
they like.

>     If you have any kind of enclosure anxiety (*I thought I'd have, so
>     asked
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> at
> first from 1993-5).

My doctor told me that additional pill will make me sleepy as that is one of
the side effects -so hopefully that is indeed true. He did not write me a
specific description for a relaxant. I asked my pharmacist and she did not
know what I talking about. Maybe it was me that did not express myself well
enough.

>     I found Flying **Westward no problem, except time passes, but the
>     Flight
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> to see if your Bags arrived or went to Italy ! :-<

I am flying during day time and will land during day time again which means
my body feels I should go to bed so to speak :-)

>    (*I carried my Meds. on since I didn't want to be separated from them,
> but still put mine through the Xray scanner although one of the Drs. said
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> original Prescription Bottles with the ID no. and Drs. name etc. on the
> bottle. )

Good catch. I usually carry additional pills in my pockets, just to be sure
but when I store almost all my pills in the suit case and my suit case is
being sent to Italy, then I run into trouble. I will then have to find
myself a GP so that I can get a prescription. Don't think that this will be
an issue.
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G.Ross - 20 Jan 2005 06:16 GMT
>> *** G That would probaby help correct for West ward trip and time changes
>> above, I wonder how that works going back?  I guess the same could apply,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> My blood levels are quite steady as I am using the "extended release".
*** If Netherlands are also on GMT zone, Washington State in West U.S. is 8
hours West of you (5 hours to my timezone, then 3 to West Coast).  If you
take pills each e.g. 12 hours, depending how long any plane changes take,
you might be able to stay on the same dosing rate just by timing out say
10-14 hours from your last dose, and then settle on that rate while you're
in the U.S.  (My Tegretol controlled release can be taken each 12 hours plus
or minus 3 hours, because they're made to release slowly over a longer
period.  Now I'm only taking the Tegretol in the Morning, so each 24 hours.)
As on my earlier note, it's flying East toward the sun, where I don't know
how to adjust for that.  Probably still keeping to about the same spacing
between doses would be correct.
   (How much is a 'cheap' extra watch in stores?  Maybe you could get a
spare/ *second one, to carry just for the trip, and put it in the carry-on,
leaving it set on Netherlands Time.   That way you could just take your
pills at about the same times as you do at home, using the "Netherlands
watch" to space the doses. )

>> Man !! With a 'Name' like above (Satch), I assumed you were Going to New
>> Orleans.  We all could have met you there !!!  It's almost 30C there now
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> if
> they like.
G. You probably know but Louis Armstrong was called 'Satchmo' (don't know
why). That was where I thought you had picked the name from and assumed you
liked Jazz. Maybe we should have a convention in New Orleans in 2006
(January) to get away from Winters here. There really is a Bourbon Street
and a Basin Street (blues) there.

>>     If you have any kind of enclosure anxiety (*I thought I'd have, so
>> asked
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> be
> an issue.
Satch - 21 Jan 2005 01:49 GMT
> *** If Netherlands are also on GMT zone, Washington State in West U.S. is
> 8
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> how to adjust for that.  Probably still keeping to about the same spacing
> between doses would be correct.

Yes, I guess that this is the trick. However, you do not want to set the
alarm clock at 03:00 AM, do you? :-) But you are on the the right track
here.

>     (How much is a 'cheap' extra watch in stores?  Maybe you could get a
> spare/ *second one, to carry just for the trip, and put it in the
> carry-on,
> leaving it set on Netherlands Time.   That way you could just take your
> pills at about the same times as you do at home, using the "Netherlands
> watch" to space the doses. )

I was thinking about this too and this is a good catch Gaross to mention.
There are loads of fancy geek devices one can use without buying yourself a
complete watch.

> G. You probably know but Louis Armstrong was called 'Satchmo' (don't know
> why). That was where I thought you had picked the name from and assumed
> you
> liked Jazz. Maybe we should have a convention in New Orleans in 2006
> (January) to get away from Winters here. There really is a Bourbon Street
> and a Basin Street (blues) there.

Yep. By the way, I like all kinds of music but especially music + guitars in
it: jazz, rock, blues, r&b, etc.

Cheers Gaross!

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The Netherlands

Mary Fisher - 21 Jan 2005 14:31 GMT
>> G. You probably know but Louis Armstrong was called 'Satchmo' (don't know
>> why).

Satchel mouth.

That's why I ws called Satch when I was a teenager ... :-)

> That was where I thought you had picked the name from and assumed
>> you
>> liked Jazz. Maybe we should have a convention in New Orleans in 2006
>> (January) to get away from Winters here. There really is a Bourbon Street
>> and a Basin Street (blues) there.

I love trad jazz but rarely hear it. Lst night we went to Blues in the
Night - for the second time, at the Wet Yorkshire Playhouse. It was
briliant. My arms ached this morning from clapping!

Mary
Satch - 21 Jan 2005 16:17 GMT
> I love trad jazz but rarely hear it. Lst night we went to Blues in the
> Night - for the second time, at the Wet Yorkshire Playhouse. It was
> briliant. My arms ached this morning from clapping!

Yesterday I went for a one day business trip to UK (Heathrrow Airport) which
is a 40 or 45 minutes flight. The alarm clock sounded at 06:00 AM GMT+1! I
had a 40 minute delay in Amsterdam before we could take off because there
were no slots available on Heathrow Airport. We were then 40 minutes in the
air flying circles because there were still no slots available at the
airport.

When I went back, I ordered a cap and that cap got stuck in traffic jam
during rush hour because of accident somewhere. So, according to my E-ticket
the gate closed at 19:35 GMT and when I arrived at Terminal 1, it was 19:34
GMT. Now, you need to know that my ankle has been hurting since I ran 7 KM
per 40 minutes which was an overkill for my body as I do not have an active
sporting history. This happend two weeks ago when I was running on the tread
mill. I tried a combination of hobbling and running and it must have been
looking quite funny. When I get nearby the the customs -of course, two young
in love teenagers were in front of me, just kissing a bit in stead of paying
attention, while I was waiting desperately getting my jacket and small bag
on the tread mill.

Finally, I found out that my plain which was scheduled to depart on 20:05
had a delay till 21:40! After smiling a bit that I did not had to worry
about not catching the airplain, I watched the clock and noticed that it was
19:45 or something like that (GMT). When I watched my own clock, I noticed
the following time: 20:45 GMT+1. So, conclusion was: I won't be in the
airplane before 22:15.

After grabbing some food, drinking a cup of coffe with applie pie, reading
Virus Attack of Tom Clancey, it was time to board (21:35 GMT / 22:35 GMT+1).
Because of a traffic jam in the air and on the ground because of heavy wind,
there was another 40 minutes delay. When I was approaching runway, it was
22:15. At exactly 23:00 hours GMT/ 0:00 hours GMT+1, we landed in Amsterdam.

Walking through the airport, customs, etc. and when I looked at the train
schedule outside the airport, the first train which would go to the city I
live would depart at 01:00 GMT+1. When I finally saw my bed it was 02:30
GMT+1.

Before I went to bed I sent my boss an E-mail that I would not make it into
the office on Friday and that I would work home.

I guess this is one of those things where exhaustion and lack of sleep are
testing my body for anything to happen. So far: no problem. I did not had
much stress (I made sure I did not stress out) though a sore ankle because I
knew when I would have missed the airplane and when it was not possible to
rebook the ticket, I would have gone to bed in one of the hotels nearby. It
would cost me a fortune and though I expect my boss to pay for it +
additional ticket, I actually do not care of paying myself.

It was a good 4 hours meeting though
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Mary Fisher - 21 Jan 2005 18:00 GMT
>> I love trad jazz but rarely hear it. Lst night we went to Blues in the
>> Night - for the second time, at the Wet Yorkshire Playhouse. It was
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>
> It was a good 4 hours meeting though

You DO have a busy life :-)

But rather you than me ... :-(

I hate Heathrow.

And I'm sorry you had that experience.

Mary

> Marco
> The Netherlands
Satch - 21 Jan 2005 22:27 GMT
> You DO have a busy life :-)
>
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>
> Mary

I know. The meeting was about "outsourcing jobs to India or Eastern Europe
countries", so I was glad I was part of that meeting so that I could get the
insights of what is going to happen to existing jobs / people. Knowledge is
power and helps to make a good personalized decision / judgement of the
situation. So, it was a good meeting.

It is the second time I have a not so good experience in UK. The first one
is related to my first seizure; the second one is related to Heathrow
Airport. Maybe UK is cursed / crucified or maybe I have some French blood
:-). It is one or the other, but I am glad I am home right now.

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justme - 21 Jan 2005 22:47 GMT
>>You DO have a busy life :-)
>>
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> Airport. Maybe UK is cursed / crucified or maybe I have some French blood
> :-). It is one or the other, but I am glad I am home right now.

----Break out the Guitar--- e,a and b chords here ya go!!!
:)
owlvee
Satch - 22 Jan 2005 11:43 GMT
> ----Break out the Guitar--- e,a and b chords here ya go!!!
> :)
> owlvee

Will certainly do that -hopefully it helps Owlvee!

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Mary Fisher - 22 Jan 2005 09:22 GMT
>> You DO have a busy life :-)
>>
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> is related to my first seizure; the second one is related to Heathrow
> Airport. Maybe UK is cursed / crucified or maybe I have some French blood

... oh no!

You mean I've been fraternising with the old enemy???

I'll never live it down :-(

:-)

Mary
Satch - 22 Jan 2005 11:42 GMT
> I'll never live it down :-(

Me neither!

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Mary Fisher - 22 Jan 2005 14:05 GMT
>> I'll never live it down :-(
>
> Me neither!

There's an exception to every rule :-)

Mary
turbinado - 11 Jan 2005 22:10 GMT
Have a fun trip, go easy on the booze and you should be fine!

> Good day all,
>
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> Marco
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G.Ross - 17 Jan 2005 05:50 GMT
> Have a fun trip, go easy on the booze and you should be fine!
>
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>> March 04 2005. So, this means that I am flying with Northwest Airlines on
>> Saturday, Februrary 13, 2005.
****G.*  DEPENDING on your personal Tastes (pun intended), all the
Remaindered Valentine's Chocolates will be on sale by then...  and 'Best
Before dates' will run into April.  Unless a Portable computer might be
cheaper in the U.S. vs. Europe if there are no Duties etc. that decrease
advantage of buying somewhere that might have a sale (although different
Electricity? 110Volt AC here), there might be sales you'd find of interest.
/

>> For anyone that does not know my history, on February 13, 2004, I had a
>> company (fun) event as well and we went on a mini cruise to the UK
>> --etc./
>> Thanks.
>> Marco
>> The Netherlands
Satch - 10 Feb 2005 07:49 GMT
Good morning guys (08:43 AM GMT+1),

Tomorow is my trip to the US so I am excited about it. I haven't been around
for a while in this newsgroup as I have been busy lately but I just wanted
to let you guys know that I am doing great and that will certainly come back
here -hopefully not asking for additional help because of another seizure
due to flying through time zones, lack of sleep, etc., but more to answer
questions I might know the answer to. Believe me: thanks to this group, I
now know a lot more of epilepsy since I have had my first / last seizure in
February 2004 including its social aspects because that is something that
doctors won't tell you.

As said before: when the event starts on Monday, February 14, 2005, I will
get my drivers license back (from legal point of view because I still have
my drivers license in my cupboard at home). So, anyone near Seattle /
Redmond area can safely walk on the streets because I won't drive any car as
I think it is not safe to start driving in a different country after a
driving free period of 12 months exactly. It is however kind of strange that
my first big seizure started in a different country (UK) causing me to loose
some privileges like driving / swimming (without supervision of an adult),
bathing (without supervision of someone like partner, etc.), etc. and that
12 months later, I am in a different country again getting back all these
privileges. Some of them are however still applicable like avoiding lack of
sleep, avoiding drinking (too much) alcohol (though two alcoholic drinks are
OK). As I only drink during social events and I as I do not really need to
drink or something, I radically stopped drinking alcohol and I started going
out with my friends again by just drinking sparkling water and having the
exact same fun except that after a while, they got tired because of the
alcohol and I am still jumping around so to speak. Of course, don't forget
the lack of the hangover (hehehe). Avoiding stress is for anyone with or
without epilepsy something that one needs to avoid so that does not really
count.

I would like to thank you all for all the help you have been giving me and
when you do not hear from me anymore, then I probably joined Tom Hanks in
the Terminal (http://www.theterminal-themovie.com/); hopefully, Catherine
Zeta-Jones is there as well :-)

Bye,
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Mary Fisher - 10 Feb 2005 10:40 GMT
> Tomorow is my trip to the US so I am excited about it.

I bet!

> As said before: when the event starts on Monday, February 14, 2005, I will
> get my drivers license back (from legal point of view because I still have
> my drivers license in my cupboard at home).

Having the bit of paper doesn't mean you're licensed though :-(

On the other hand, when mine ws restored yet not delivered I realised that I
was licensed so didn't have to wait for the paper!

> So, anyone near Seattle /
> Redmond area can safely walk on the streets because I won't drive any car
> as
> I think it is not safe to start driving in a different country after a
> driving free period of 12 months exactly.

I didn't think it was safe to drive in Seattle anyway ... but I'm not used
to driving on the right.

> It is however kind of strange that
> my first big seizure started in a different country (UK) causing me to
> loose
> some privileges like driving / swimming (without supervision of an adult),
> bathing (without supervision of someone like partner, etc.),

What? Why?

> Avoiding stress is for anyone with or
> without epilepsy

How true.

> I would like to thank you all for all the help you have been giving me and
> when you do not hear from me anymore, then I probably joined Tom Hanks in
> the Terminal, hopefully, Catherine
> Zeta-Jones is there as well :-)

Who are those people?

I hope you have  wonderful time and look forward to seeing you again!

Mary
Dave ???? - 10 Feb 2005 16:17 GMT
Howdy Marco!

Bon voyage and don't drink the water!  :D

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> Good morning guys (08:43 AM GMT+1),
>
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>
> Bye,
Mary Fisher - 10 Feb 2005 16:24 GMT
> Howdy Marco!
>
> Bon voyage and don't drink the water!  :D

Oh no! I drank the water in US - what's wrong with it?

Mary
Dave ???? - 10 Feb 2005 23:22 GMT
Howdy Mary!

Gee... I hope it's not too late to save ya'...

Drink the water and you start to think like a Yank!
Drink too much and you even start to talk like a Yank!

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> > Howdy Marco!
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>
> Mary
Mary Fisher - 10 Feb 2005 23:30 GMT
> Howdy Mary!
>
> Gee... I hope it's not too late to save ya'...

The last time was in 1993 ... come to think about it though, I came back and
had to have the craniotomy ...

> Drink the water and you start to think like a Yank!

I don't think I could ever do that.

> Drink too much and you even start to talk like a Yank!

Oh no! Heaven forefend :-)

How much do you have to drink to spell like one?

Mary
Dave ???? - 11 Feb 2005 16:30 GMT
Howdy Mary!

Sad to say, a craniotomy won't help.

As you may have noticed, most Yanks don't have any brains so it doesn't have
any effect!

BTW: I've noticed an increase in contractions on your posts. That could be
an early symptom...

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> > Howdy Mary!
> >
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>
> Mary
Mary Fisher - 11 Feb 2005 17:11 GMT
> Howdy Mary!
>
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> have
> any effect!

I can never remember the definition of a Yank but somewhere I think it
doesn't mean all Americans. I''ve known some highly intelligent Americans
...

> BTW: I've noticed an increase in contractions on your posts. That could be
> an early symptom...

Oh no! I'm not in labour am I?

Or is this phrase (an increase in contractions) an example of the rift in
our language?

:-)

Mary
Dave ???? - 12 Feb 2005 19:30 GMT
> > Howdy Mary!
> >
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> Or is this phrase (an increase in contractions) an example of the rift in
> our language?

CONTRACTIONS: I'm for I AM; don't for DO NOT; etc.

> :-)
>
> Mary

Howdy Mary!

Thanks for the straight line!

What is a Yankee?

To anybody who lives OUTSIDE of the USA a Yankee is anybody who lives IN the
USA...

To anybody who lives in the SOUTHERN USA, a Yankee is anybody who lives in
the NORTHERN USA...

To anybody who lives in the NORTHERN USA, a Yankee is somebody who lives in
New England (Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut or
Rhode Island)...

* To anybody who lives in New England, a Yakee is somebody who lives in
VERMONT...

To anybody who lives in VERMONT, a Yankee is somebody who eats cold baked
beans and apple pie for breakfast!

* There is some dispute about whether a Yankee is somebody who lives in
VERMONT or somebody who lives in MAINE. Since my roots are in Vermont, I
have chosen the former definition.

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Mary Fisher - 13 Feb 2005 10:36 GMT
>> > Howdy Mary!
>> >
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>
> CONTRACTIONS: I'm for I AM; don't for DO NOT; etc.

Oh, linguistic contractions. I use them a lot, always have done, I thought.
What's it an early sign of?

>> :-)
>>
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> the
> USA...

Not all of us - not the pedants :-)

> To anybody who lives in the SOUTHERN USA, a Yankee is anybody who lives in
> the NORTHERN USA...
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> VERMONT or somebody who lives in MAINE. Since my roots are in Vermont, I
> have chosen the former definition.

Thank you for that. I'll forget it. Not intentionally, you understand :-)

I seem to remember that it was something to do with the north/south divide,
Confederates comes to mind - my very hazy mind ...

Mary
Dave ???? - 13 Feb 2005 12:55 GMT
Howdy Mary!

re: > Not all of us - not the pedants :-)

Gee... I always thought that "pedants" were:
'people who abused the children of peasants' or
'streetwalkers' or
'people who assaulted hitch hikers' or
'people with a foot fetish' or
sumthin' like that!!

If you're one of those "other kind of pedants" you'd better heed me well
'cuz I've got a B.S. in BS!

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> >
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> Mary
Mary Fisher - 13 Feb 2005 14:13 GMT
> Howdy Mary!
>
> re: > Not all of us - not the pedants :-)
>
> Gee... I always thought that "pedants" were:
> 'people who abused the children of peasants'

Paedophiles?

> or
> 'streetwalkers'

Pedestrians?

or
> 'people who assaulted hitch hikers'

Never heard of those ...

> or
> 'people with a foot fetish'

Nor that ...

> or
> sumthin' like that!!
>
> If you're one of those "other kind of pedants" you'd better heed me well
> 'cuz I've got a B.S. in BS!

What's BS? Come to that, what's a B.S.?

Mary
Dave ???? - 13 Feb 2005 16:12 GMT
Howdy Mary!

B.S. in BS: Bachelor of Science in bullsh*t...
a chosen few of us have got it down to an exact science!

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> >
> Mary
Mary Fisher - 13 Feb 2005 17:25 GMT
> Howdy Mary!
>
> B.S. in BS: Bachelor of Science in bullsh*t...

Oh I see! In UK it would be a BSc.

> a chosen few of us have got it down to an exact science!

I've noticed :-)

Mary
Dave ???? - 17 Feb 2005 17:57 GMT
> > Howdy Mary!
> >
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>
> Mary

Howdy!

In the words of Winston Churchill:

We are two peoples separated by a common language!

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Mary Fisher - 17 Feb 2005 18:23 GMT
>> > Howdy Mary!
>> >
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>
> We are two peoples separated by a common language!

And he should know - with his mixed parentage!

Mary
Satch - 19 Feb 2005 00:53 GMT
Hi!

Here is a message from me...everything is still going well. How nice
to see that Mary and Dave have changed the subject a bit. I have no
idea what they are talking about so I guess my brains are not yet
affected by flying through a time zone (-9 hours) because I never know
what they are talking about so what else is new (sorry guys).

Current weather: extremely sunny for the time of the year, a little
bit cold, no snow in the mountains so no skiing but I don't want to do
that anyway...do I need to tell more?

Cheers,
Marco @ Redmond :-)
Mary Fisher - 19 Feb 2005 12:16 GMT
> Hi!
>
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> affected by flying through a time zone (-9 hours) because I never know
> what they are talking about so what else is new (sorry guys).

You don't think that WE know what we're talking about do you???

> Current weather: extremely sunny for the time of the year, a little
> bit cold, no snow in the mountains so no skiing but I don't want to do
> that anyway...do I need to tell more?

Yes. Everything. We'll be enjoying your holiday vicariously (Dave will
explain).

I'm envious, you're in a lovely part of the world ... my favourite outside
Britain and Scandinavia!

Mary

> Cheers,
> Marco @ Redmond :-)
Dave ???? - 19 Feb 2005 17:09 GMT
Howdy Marco!

> > Hi!
> >
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>
> You don't think that WE know what we're talking about do you???

Awww... c'mon Mary we know exactly what we are talking about. (I've never
told a lie in my life either!)  :D

> > Current weather: extremely sunny for the time of the year, a little
> > bit cold, no snow in the mountains so no skiing but I don't want to do
> > that anyway...do I need to tell more?
>
> Yes. Everything. We'll be enjoying your holiday vicariously (Dave will
> explain).

"Vicariously"... that means that Mary is letting her imagination run wild
and is druelling lustfully while she waits for all of the intimate details.
(She's really hoping that you have a romantic encounter and tell all
afterwards!)

> I'm envious, you're in a lovely part of the world ... my favourite outside
> Britain and Scandinavia!
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> > Cheers,
> > Marco @ Redmond :-)

Anyway, have fun and don't do anything that I wouldn't do!

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Mary Fisher - 19 Feb 2005 17:44 GMT
>> > Here is a message from me...everything is still going well. How nice
>> > to see that Mary and Dave have changed the subject a bit. I have no
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> Awww... c'mon Mary we know exactly what we are talking about. (I've never
> told a lie in my life either!)  :D

Davd - I'm sure your nose was quite petit last time I looked ...

>> > Current weather: extremely sunny for the time of the year, a little
>> > bit cold, no snow in the mountains so no skiing but I don't want to do
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> and is druelling lustfully while she waits for all of the intimate
> details.

Well ... I suppose that could be one interpretation ...

> (She's really hoping that you have a romantic encounter and tell all
> afterwards!)

No I'm not! some things must be kept private.

And I don't want to hear about any rivals anyway.

Hrumph.

Mary
Satch - 09 Mar 2005 10:46 GMT
Folks,

I am back in the Netherlands again and still nothing happened except that I
booked an inland flight to Las Vegas. I saw the Space Needle, the Seattle
Aquarium, the Nike Factory Store Outlet, the Mountains, the Boeing Factory,
the Museum of Flight, the Redmond Town Center, the Bellevue Square Town
Center, Rockshow Theatre and I went out for dinner with colleages exactly
85.000 times :-) Starting Saturday or early next week, I will start going
swimming again which will be a great adventure for me as I have not been
doing this for exactly one year.

The last weekend I went to Vegas to see the casino's and hotel resorts and
it was AWESOME. Because I had to fly back to Seattle to catch my
international flight again, I had to wake up at 07:00 and though I cannot
state for sure, the casino's were still crowded with people throwing their
money away in the gambling machines which was "funny" though scarry as these
people seems to be addicted to gambling. Of course I also saw some shows in
the Luxor hotel (the Pyramide) which was awesome with lots of good dancing,
singing, beautiful girls.

I enjoyed myself a lot but please be aware that I went to the US for
business :-) Right now, I am suffering from a terrible jetlag but that is
part of the deal. Hopefully, I will get a good sleep within a couple of
nights.

Thanks for all your help.

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Mary Fisher - 09 Mar 2005 16:36 GMT
> Folks,
>
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>
> Thanks for all your help.
Mary Fisher - 09 Mar 2005 16:38 GMT
> Folks,
>
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> Center, Rockshow Theatre and I went out for dinner with colleages exactly
> 85.000 times :-)

And why didn't you go to Pike Place Market?

> The last weekend I went to Vegas to see the casino's and hotel resorts and
> it was AWESOME. Because I had to fly back to Seattle to catch my
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> I enjoyed myself a lot but please be aware that I went to the US for
> business :-)

Yeah yeah, ...

> Right now, I am suffering from a terrible jetlag but that is
> part of the deal.

Serves you right too.

Hrumph!

Mary
Satch - 10 Mar 2005 13:04 GMT
> And why didn't you go to Pike Place Market?

Actually <Mary, I was there seven years ago so I did want to see new things.

> Serves you right too.

Much obliged!

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Mary Fisher - 10 Mar 2005 13:57 GMT
>> And why didn't you go to Pike Place Market?
>
> Actually <Mary, I was there seven years ago so I did want to see new
> things.

Well, I forgive you then, but I suspect that some things have changed ...
they change from day to day if not from season to season in my experience.

But you were there seven years ago and didn't do the Space Needle or Boeing
then?!!

Lovely to have you back!

Mary
Satch - 11 Mar 2005 13:56 GMT
> Well, I forgive you then, but I suspect that some things have changed ...
> they change from day to day if not from season to season in my experience.

I guess that is so true but maybe next time then?

> But you were there seven years ago and didn't do the Space Needle or
> Boeing
> then?!!

Yes, I did these as well seven years ago but did not make any pictures...now
I made some excellent pictures as well.

> Lovely to have you back!

Thanks! Nice to be back here!

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Mary Fisher - 11 Mar 2005 15:19 GMT
>> Well, I forgive you then, but I suspect that some things have changed ...
>> they change from day to day if not from season to season in my
>> experience.
>
> I guess that is so true but maybe next time then?

It's a date :-)

>> But you were there seven years ago and didn't do the Space Needle or
>> Boeing
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> pictures...now
> I made some excellent pictures as well.

How about mailing me some via my genuine address (this one!) I didn't get
any pictures when I was there. It was just before my brain surgery and I
wasn't doing things normally, it's something I always regretted :-(

Mary
Satch - 11 Mar 2005 18:58 GMT
> It's a date :-)

How exciting.

> How about mailing me some via my genuine address (this one!) I didn't get
> any pictures when I was there. It was just before my brain surgery and I
> wasn't doing things normally, it's something I always regretted :-(

Check your Inbox!

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Mary Fisher - 11 Mar 2005 22:14 GMT
>> It's a date :-)
>
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>
> Check your Inbox!

I do that even before coming here :-)

Mary

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