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S Noorman - 12 Aug 2003 11:15 GMT
Hello,

Hello, my name is Sam and I'm a married man from the Netherlands at the age
of 39.
This morning I had an MRI-scan, after beeing hit by an epilectic attack in
the night some 3 weeks ago. I never had anything like that before, always
perfectly healthy except for some psychic problems. (in the head)
During the last 3 weeks nothing more has happened and I'm feeling perfectly
well except for some fear and anxiety.
But now I'm a little scared for the result of the MRI-scan, what will come
out. When surfing on the internet it looks like everybody with this kind of
suddenly appearing symptoms has a brain-tumor. And that makes me scared.
As said, I have a weak head since beeing overstressed a long time ago. For
example, working intensifely behind a computer often gives me haedaches or
dizzy feelings, they can last for days. Also the hours before the attack I
used my head intensifely, and I thought that maybe that has something to do
with the attack. But the specialist says that's impossible.
The MRI-scan was gladly not scary although you must not be claustrofobic.
They also used contrast fluid in the second part of the examination and I
wonder if that's positive or negative.

Thanks very much for listening to my complaints.
Paul Oldham - 12 Aug 2003 11:56 GMT
> Hello, my name is Sam and I'm a married man from the Netherlands at the
> age of 39.
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> of suddenly appearing symptoms has a brain-tumor. And that makes me
> scared.

Adult onset epilepsy can be a symptom of something like a tumour, but it can
be a symptom of other things too, a bleed in the brain for example. More
importantly it can have no apparent reason *at all*. For example I had a
tonic/clonic age 34 for no apparent reason and never had another one (until
my stroke, but that's another story ;-)).

> The MRI-scan was gladly not scary although you must not be claustrofobic.
> They also used contrast fluid in the second part of the examination and I
> wonder if that's positive or negative.

Sounds like they are a bit suspicious that it might have been a bleed which
caused it too.

> Thanks very much for listening to my complaints.

No problem. Try not to worry too much. The chances are that they will find
nothing and it is also quite likely you will not have another seizure. Even
if you do get more you can get good control of seizures using a range of
drugs with few side effects.

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Just Tom - 12 Aug 2003 18:35 GMT
Hey Paul having a great day?

>>The MRI-scan was gladly not scary although you must not be claustrofobic.
>>They also used contrast fluid in the second part of the examination and I
>>wonder if that's positive or negative.
>
>Sounds like they are a bit suspicious that it might have been a bleed which
>caused it too.

I don't want this to be argumentative. Contrast seems to be a normal
part of a MRI. It just allows the Radiologist
a better "range" if you will. I'm in total argeement with your next
paragraph; it could be nothing.
I gotta print up that T-shirt " I've had so many MRIs I attract paper
clips!"

Stay vertical, dude
T

>>Thanks very much for listening to my complaints.
>
>No problem. Try not to worry too much. The chances are that they will find
>nothing and it is also quite likely you will not have another seizure. Even
>if you do get more you can get good control of seizures using a range of
>drugs with few side effects.
Paul Oldham - 13 Aug 2003 08:14 GMT
> Hey Paul having a great day?

Not so far.

> >>They also used contrast fluid in the second part of the examination and
> >>I wonder if that's positive or negative.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> part of a MRI. It just allows the Radiologist a better "range" if you
> will.

Shrug. I've had three. They've never used contrast. They did use some sort
of marker in my blood when I've had a CAT scan (of which I've had two IIRC).

> I gotta print up that T-shirt " I've had so many MRIs I attract paper
> clips!"

Or "I've had so many MRIs I know which way north is" ? ;-)

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Paul Oldham, Milton, Cambridge, UK
http://the-hug.org/paul/

Chris Kingsbury - 03 Sep 2003 14:02 GMT
The marker: IVP dye.  Iodine-based contract solution.

> > Hey Paul having a great day?
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Paul Oldham, Milton, Cambridge, UK
> http://the-hug.org/paul/
Dave ???? - 03 Sep 2003 20:31 GMT
Howdy Sam!

ONE seizure does not necessarily indicate that you have epilepsy!

They may find another medical reason that caused the seizure.

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Dave ????
"Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus!"

http://www.howdydave.com

> > Hello, my name is Sam and I'm a married man from the Netherlands at the
> > age of 39.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> if you do get more you can get good control of seizures using a range of
> drugs with few side effects.
Cheryl DeVoll - 03 Sep 2003 22:24 GMT
Speaking of this...........Is it still standard procedure to tell someone
who has had seizures more than a few times that they have a low seizure
threshold if the docs have identified the "other causes" each time?
Notwithstanding, interictal eeg's to be negative. Docs used this approach
with my mom until hers were severe and regular and observed by a doctor
while she was having the eeg. I have a neuro now who puts patients on AED's
if they've had more than 2 episodes, even if they've had negative eeg's. She
obviously knows that untreated seizures lead to more seizures.

Cheryl

> Howdy Sam!
>
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> > if you do get more you can get good control of seizures using a range of
> > drugs with few side effects.
Dave ???? - 04 Sep 2003 06:30 GMT
Howdy Cheryl!

First: I AM NOT A DOCTOR!

I always thought that the definition of epilepsy was the tendency to have
seizures without any apparant causes.

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Dave ????
"Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus!"

http://www.howdydave.com

> Speaking of this...........Is it still standard procedure to tell someone
> who has had seizures more than a few times that they have a low seizure
[quoted text clipped - 62 lines]
> > > if you do get more you can get good control of seizures using a range of
> > > drugs with few side effects.
Bob - 04 Sep 2003 20:25 GMT
"Dave ©¿©¬" wrote:

> Howdy Cheryl!
>
> First: I AM NOT A DOCTOR!
>
> I always thought that the definition of epilepsy was the tendency to have
> seizures without any apparant causes.

I suspect that you were saying that tongue-in-cheek, but

EPILEPSY
Pronunciation: 'epu`lepsee
Matching Terms: epilepsia major, epilepsia minor
WordNet Dictionary
Definition: [n]  a disorder of the central nervous system characterized by loss
of consciousness and convulsions
etc at: http://www.hyperdictionary.com/search.aspx?Dict=&define=epilepsy

Bob

> Dave ©¿©¬
> "Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus!"
[quoted text clipped - 84 lines]
> > > > Paul Oldham, Milton, Cambridge, UK
> > > > http://the-hug.org/paul/stroke/
jedi and son - 05 Sep 2003 00:46 GMT
> > Howdy Cheryl!
> >
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>
> Bob

And the irony in that definition is that it completely neglects all the
seizure forms during which the person never loses consciousness or has
convulsions.  Not to play favorites or cause a ruckus....but I rather liked
Howdy Daves definition!  Rather nicely summed up!

Jedi and Son
Bob - 05 Sep 2003 02:40 GMT
> > "Dave ©¿©¬" wrote:
> >
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> seizure forms during which the person never loses consciousness or has
> convulsions.

But it was a definition of "epilepsy", not of "seizures".

> Not to play favorites or cause a ruckus....but I rather liked
> Howdy Daves definition!  Rather nicely summed up!

and tongue-in-cheek as I noted. :-)

> Jedi and Son

Bob
Dave ???? - 05 Sep 2003 05:02 GMT
Howdy Bob!

My def. was NOT tongue-in-cheek.

Not all seizures are epileptic seizures.

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Dave ????
"Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus!"

http://www.howdydave.com

> > > > Howdy Cheryl!
> > > >
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>
> Bob
Bob - 05 Sep 2003 14:52 GMT
Hi Dave

> My def. was NOT tongue-in-cheek.

I believe you. I believe you! :-)
You're the man who knows what he meant.

> Not all seizures are epileptic seizures.

I completely agree with you there.

It's just that when you said
"I always thought that the definition of epilepsy was the tendency to have
seizures without any apparant causes."
that I took it differently from what you meant.

Sorry 'bout dat!  :-)

Bob

> Dave ©¿©¬
> "Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus!"
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> >
> > Bob
Bob - 05 Sep 2003 03:16 GMT
> > "Dave ©¿©¬" wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> seizure forms during which the person never loses consciousness or has
> convulsions.

But it was a definition of "epilepsy", not of "seizures".

> Not to play favorites or cause a ruckus....but I rather liked
> Howdy Daves definition!  Rather nicely summed up!

and tongue-in-cheek as I noted. :-)

> Jedi and Son

Bob
Bob - 05 Sep 2003 03:18 GMT
> > "Dave ©¿©¬" wrote:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> seizure forms during which the person never loses consciousness or has
> convulsions.

But it was a definition of "epilepsy", not of "seizures".

> Not to play favorites or cause a ruckus....but I rather liked
> Howdy Daves definition!  Rather nicely summed up!

and tongue-in-cheek as I noted. :-)

> Jedi and Son

Bob
Just Tom - 12 Aug 2003 19:06 GMT
Hey Sam,
Glad you wrote in.

>Hello, my name is Sam and I'm a married man from the Netherlands at the age
>of 39.

Beautiful country. I visited a few times while working in Liege, Belgium.

>This morning I had an MRI-scan, after beeing hit by an epilectic attack in
>the night some 3 weeks ago. I never had anything like that before, always
>perfectly healthy except for some psychic problems. (in the head)
>During the last 3 weeks nothing more has happened and I'm feeling perfectly
>well except for some fear and anxiety.

I'm curious why the MRI was 3 weeks later?  I understand the fear and
anxiety, every little strange
feeling and you think "Uh oh, here's another one" . RELAX.

>But now I'm a little scared for the result of the MRI-scan, what will come
>out. When surfing on the internet it looks like everybody with this kind of
>suddenly appearing symptoms has a brain-tumor. And that makes me scared.

I've said it before. The internet is a wonderful place. There is so much
information.
                           The internet is a terrible place. There is
so much information.
I know it's hard to do, but you must relax. Wait for the results to come in.

>As said, I have a weak head since beeing overstressed a long time ago. For
>example, working intensifely behind a computer often gives me haedaches or
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Thanks very much for listening to my complaints.

That's what we're all here for, Sam. Take care and relax

Stay vertical,
T
 
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