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Theo - 03 Sep 2004 18:52 GMT
Hi

I know the classic dictionary definition of dejavous: the feeling of doing
something or being somewhere before. But when describing auras, is this
what it really means? From time to time I get the feeling of familiarity,
but something is still not right about it. These usually happen outdoors on
bright days... another of the things that lead me to wonder if Im sensitive
to bright sunlight.
Mary Fisher - 03 Sep 2004 20:23 GMT
> Hi
>
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> bright days... another of the things that lead me to wonder if Im sensitive
> to bright sunlight.

With me, deja vu is more of a feeling that something has happened before,
not that I've been to a place before.

I don't know how common that is but my experiences began before I had my
seizure and continue since the surgery to remove a tumour. But not as
frequently, it used to be every couple of days, now it's once a month.

Mary
Theo - 03 Sep 2004 21:59 GMT
"Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in news:4138c491$0$22317
$4c56ba96@master.news.zetnet.net:

> With me, deja vu is more of a feeling that something has happened before,
> not that I've been to a place before.
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>
> Mary

This isnt consistant for me either. Wish I knew why.
Dave ???? - 03 Sep 2004 23:38 GMT
> > Hi
> >
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>
> Mary

Howdy!

With me deja vu is more of a feeling of "I know what's going to happen next"
rather than "that happened to me once before!"

When I think my way through it, "what's going t happen next" doesn't happen
about 90% of the time, but there is still that feeling of foreknowledge that
I get from a situation, a sentence, whatever.

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gaross - 03 Sep 2004 20:36 GMT
> Hi
>
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> bright days... another of the things that lead me to wonder if Im sensitive
> to bright sunlight.

Hi.  Do you remember if your's happen when it's sunny as opposed to overcast
(cloudy) ?  I wondered if part of your's might be from a sensitivity to
(bright) light...  Some people also react to 'flashing' effect e.g. on a bus
or car when driving past trees or buildings that alternate from bright to
shady and back.
  You could look under some of the websites about 'photosensitivity'  that
some of us (once) reacted to.  Do you notice any effects where there are
e.g. Neon lights in stores?   (Sometimes those have a different refresh rate
than a tungsten light bulb, and can cause reactions in some of us.)  G/
Theo - 03 Sep 2004 21:58 GMT
>> Hi
>>
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> refresh rate than a tungsten light bulb, and can cause reactions in
> some of us.)  G/

Hi back, I would have to say it happens when its sunny... or at least the
times I recall right now have always been sunny. As for flashing etc its
kinds hit and miss. It certainly bothers my eyes... like freshly polished
passing cars on a bright day. I never did like large department stores,
for whatever reason, but small ones were fine. Not that I ever had an
episode in one... I was just uncomfortable. College was almost exclusively
florecent lighting, and it didnt bother me. But they were always diffused
behind those semi-clear plastic panels. Its the hit-and-miss that I hate
the most because its hard to pinpoint a problem. But soon I will be
changing my lenses again and tinting and/or polarization was recommended
for outdoors use so maybe it will help.
gaross - 03 Sep 2004 22:12 GMT
> >> Hi
> >> I know the classic dictionary definition of dejavous: the feeling of
> >> doing something or being somewhere before. But when describing auras,
> >> is this what it really means? From time to time I get the feeling of
> >> familiarity, but something is still not right about it. These usually
> >> happen outdoors  on bright days.. another of the things that lead me to
wonder if Im
> > sensitive
> >> to bright sunlight.
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> > alternate from bright to shady and back.
> >    You could look under some of the websites about 'photosensitivity'
that
> > some of us (once) reacted to.  Do you notice any effects where there
> > are e.g. Neon lights in stores?   (Sometimes those have a different
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> changing my lenses again and tinting and/or polarization was recommended
> for outdoors use so maybe it will help.

It would be interesting to see.   It could save a bunch of money (on
medications etc)  if some tinted glasses were all that was needed to cut out
a minor annoyance that was the Source of your effects !
 (I wondered about that on other post since someone here about 3 years ago
used an LCD screen and another? used one of those screen guards, when CRTs
had a slower Refresh Rate than most of the ones in use now.  Their type of
szr. (I forget the type) were made worse by light sensitivity or flicker
rates, like what happens with some Neon Tube lights that don't have a cover
on them.  )
  Strange though since I usually am sensitive to that Neon Flicker, but
I've been replacing some of our house lights with "Neon" Coil bulbs that use
about 20% of electricity of a Tungsten bulb, and I have *no effects from
those.  They haven't started to flicker yet though.  (They're supposed to
last 5-7 years so it'll be a while before I finish that part of the
test... )   G./
Dave ???? - 03 Sep 2004 23:28 GMT
> > >> Hi
> > >> I know the classic dictionary definition of dejavous: the feeling of
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> last 5-7 years so it'll be a while before I finish that part of the
> test... )   G./

Howdy!

I had problems when I worked at a place that had a lot of florescent lights.

I got some 20% photogray glasses and they seemed to take care of the
problem.

FYI: 10%, 20%, etc. photograys --
The percentage indicates how much light they keep out when they are
lightest. My 20% photograys never let in more than 80% of the light. This
took care of my flickering light problems.

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Theo - 04 Sep 2004 00:21 GMT
> Howdy!
>
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> lightest. My 20% photograys never let in more than 80% of the light.
> This took care of my flickering light problems.

I assume these are full time tints? Ive been considering the transitional
ones that tint based on how much light there is.
Dave ???? - 04 Sep 2004 01:07 GMT
> > Howdy!
> >
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> I assume these are full time tints? Ive been considering the transitional
> ones that tint based on how much light there is.

Howdy!

Photograys are the "transitionals" of 25 years ago!

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CyberCafe - 04 Sep 2004 20:52 GMT
> Hi
>
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> bright days... another of the things that lead me to wonder if Im sensitive
> to bright sunlight.

To me, deja vu feels like I've been here before, done this before, heard this
before.  It feels like a TV rerun.  Especially when talking to people when the
deja vu comes, I kind of think afterwards, you know, I knew what you were going
to say.

Barb
turbinado - 05 Sep 2004 01:22 GMT
My deja vu is more like the feeling that I've *dreamed* of the situation,
rather than that I've been there before. Doc said the term "deja vu" covers
any unexplained feeling of familiarity. I never had it until a few months
ago, when the Tegretol started to lose its effectiveness. I've been on
Clobazam for several weeks and although it's stopped the seizures it hasn't
stopped the deja vu - I get it a few times on certain days, other days not
at all.

> Hi
>
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> bright days... another of the things that lead me to wonder if Im sensitive
> to bright sunlight.
gaross - 05 Sep 2004 04:19 GMT
Deja Vu comes from the French for Already Seen  (like you've Known that was
going to happen).  Left Temporal Lobe seizures (not ours)  can produce
Jamais Vu Aura (French for Never seen) where the person might feel they're
at a Stranger's house, even if they're at home or a place that should be
Familiar.
 It used to be a First step before tests to tell if a Seizure Focus might
be in the Right (our's) or Left Temporal Lobes of the Brain.   Other
sensations can indicate other parts of the Brain as the Focus.

  I think you might have seen before too, but for any others some other
sensations that can happen with Temporal Lobe Aura include Right Side (taste
or odour that's Sour --mine's Lemon -- that's not there),  and Left Side is
supposedly Eggy or Acrid Taste or Odour.   Although I hated those, I think
I'd prefer the Lemon, but it was a sign for me that I might be at risk of a
seizure starting.    I don't get those now that I'm Controlled.
  (I think the http://efa.org site was where I found those at one time, but
they could be on Howdy Dave's and Julie's Idaho sites now too under symptoms
or ??. )   G../

> My deja vu is more like the feeling that I've *dreamed* of the situation,
> rather than that I've been there before. Doc said the term "deja vu" covers
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> sensitive
> > to bright sunlight.
Theo - 05 Sep 2004 06:08 GMT
>    I think you might have seen before too, but for any others some
>    other
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> they could be on Howdy Dave's and Julie's Idaho sites now too under
> symptoms or ??. )   G../

I sometimes get unusual smells but I always chalked it up to dirty clothes
or other things that need washing :P
Mary Fisher - 05 Sep 2004 08:21 GMT
> I sometimes get unusual smells but I always chalked it up to dirty clothes
> or other things that need washing :P

LOL!

In those cases it probably is :-)

Mary
 
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