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Phil Jones - 07 Aug 2004 15:26 GMT
i have photosensitive seizures (sometimes, really weird)... mostly on the
computer. but tonight my friends are going to an old 3d classic horror
movies and i'm tagging along.... but i was wondering if 3d movies have any
effect on photosensitive seizures?

any help?
phil

thanks
David Ruether - 07 Aug 2004 21:33 GMT
> i have photosensitive seizures (sometimes, really weird)... mostly on the
> computer. but tonight my friends are going to an old 3d classic horror
> movies and i'm tagging along.... but i was wondering if 3d movies have any
> effect on photosensitive seizures?
> any help?
> phil

If these are two color (red + blue-green, or similar)
or rotated-polarized images, there may be no worse
result from the blink of the 3-D movie image (24fps
x 3 ?) than is normal for the standard shuttered movie
image - but if the 3-D image uses alternating eye
shuttering, there may be a problem(?). In other
words, I don't know - but for the type you are likely
to encounter with a "classic" movie, it should not be
more of a problem than a standard movie (though
I never could see these in 3-D - just double-colored
2-D...;-).
--
David Ruether
rpn1@cornell.edu
http://www.ferrario.com/ruether
Eric - 09 Aug 2004 02:59 GMT
> > i have photosensitive seizures (sometimes, really weird)... mostly on the
> > computer. but tonight my friends are going to an old 3d classic horror
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> I never could see these in 3-D - just double-colored
> 2-D...;-).

Hi,

I, as before of course, just suggest wearing an eye patch. It takes
both eyes for the problem to occur.  I get photosensitive simple
partials just looking at TV advertisements for 3D video games.
JoAnne Linsenbach - 09 Aug 2004 06:06 GMT
Am I the only person here who is bothered by those traffic lights that
blink? Not the flashing lights but the stop lights that blink occasionally.
Drives me nuts. And then there are the police cars. Do they really have to
have such bright, quickly flashing lights? You must be able to see them a
zillion miles away. You would think everyone in the world was blind. I
realize they want to be seen, but that is overkill. But that's my opinion,
and I have never been known for not saying what I think. <g>
JoAnne

> > > i have photosensitive seizures (sometimes, really weird)... mostly on the
> > > computer. but tonight my friends are going to an old 3d classic horror
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> both eyes for the problem to occur.  I get photosensitive simple
> partials just looking at TV advertisements for 3D video games.
Charani - 09 Aug 2004 10:17 GMT
> Am I the only person here who is bothered by those traffic lights that
> blink? Not the flashing lights but the stop lights that blink occasionally.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> and I have never been known for not saying what I think. <g>
> JoAnne

The traffic lights don't bother me at all, but I agree with you about
the flashing lights on police cars.  They can be quite painful on my
eyes sometimes.

I think the reason they are so bright is to ensure that they can be
seen in bright sunlight as well.  I'm not sure about the speed though,
possibly to give a sense of urgency?? ;))

I'm not epileptic, just light sensitive.
Eric - 10 Aug 2004 16:47 GMT
Here is a good site to read for photosensitive epilepsy:

http://www.nfld.net/epilepsy/laephotosensitive.html

> Am I the only person here who is bothered by those traffic lights that
> blink? Not the flashing lights but the stop lights that blink occasionally.
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> > both eyes for the problem to occur.  I get photosensitive simple
> > partials just looking at TV advertisements for 3D video games.
Theo - 10 Aug 2004 18:30 GMT
> Here is a good site to read for photosensitive epilepsy:
>
> http://www.nfld.net/epilepsy/laephotosensitive.html

In anyones experience, is there much benefit in applying a blue tint to glasses as opposed to other colors...
or simply the dark color regular sunglasses use? I had some raybans yaers ago that had the yellow tint, and
they were great, but I dont know if it did much for helping flashing or any of that. How about the
transistion ones that tint depending on how bright the light is?

Cheers
turbinado - 12 Aug 2004 02:26 GMT
> Am I the only person here who is bothered by those traffic lights that
> blink? Not the flashing lights but the stop lights that blink occasionally.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> and I have never been known for not saying what I think. <g>
> JoAnne

Overkill is right! The old style emergency lights (rotating on top of the
cars) were bad enough, but now at a zillion pulses per second, I can't stand
to be anywhere near them. Good thing I don't drive, since I have to not only
close but cover my eyes when I see them...
Theo - 12 Aug 2004 23:55 GMT
> Overkill is right! The old style emergency lights (rotating on top of the
> cars) were bad enough, but now at a zillion pulses per second, I can't stand
> to be anywhere near them. Good thing I don't drive, since I have to not only
> close but cover my eyes when I see them...

Would polarized glasses help with anything like that? Or would they
still be too intense?
turbinado - 13 Aug 2004 03:14 GMT
> > Overkill is right! The old style emergency lights (rotating on top of the
> > cars) were bad enough, but now at a zillion pulses per second, I can't stand
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Would polarized glasses help with anything like that? Or would they
> still be too intense?

I think it's the speed of pulsing, not the brightness, that I have a problem
with.
gaross - 13 Aug 2004 00:10 GMT
> > Am I the only person here who is bothered by those traffic lights that
> > blink? Not the flashing lights but the stop lights that blink
> occasionally.
> > Drives me nuts. And then there are the police cars. Do they really have to
> > have such bright, quickly flashing lights? You must be able to see them a
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> > zillion miles away. You would think everyone in the world was blind. I
> > realize they want to be seen, but that is overkill. But that's my opinion,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> cars) were bad enough, but now at a zillion pulses per second, I can't stand
> to be anywhere near them.

*G* The olde style sirens are often no longer heard (except by pedestrians)
if people have their Car Stereo on loud and Car Windows closed,  as an
Emergency  Vehicle approaches from behind.
  And most people don't see the Flashing Red lights in their rear view
mirror, or they wouldn't have had to develop the Strobing Blue-White light
to get their attention.    Those are used here (Toronto) as they approach
intersections, since most cars aren't pulling to the side of the road and
the Emerg. vehicle has to move into the Opposite direction 3 lanes of
traffic, to cross intersections that have been blocked by the inattentive
(thoughtless) drivers.  The sound is also 'strobed' too, but people seem to
notice the visual strobing more often than the audio signal.

  I expect the latter (drivers who don't pull over without the Strobing)
have never been in Emerg. or had a family member whose life depended on
either how quickly the Ambulance might get them to a Hospital, or the
Ambulance might arrive at an accident scene.   G./
.
Good thing I don't drive, since I have to not only
> close but cover my eyes when I see them...
Outlook Express News - 06 Dec 2004 18:07 GMT
Hi,
Many different light bsources can cause rections in people who are photophoebic or sensitive.
Most causes are Cathode Ray Tubes and "strobe" lighting, common in nightclubs et al.
As 3D depends upon certain methods of projecting light; I would imagine it also can have/cause reactions.
good luck with it, Rich.

PS: I am copying this to your address too in case you don't look in here each day?

>i have photosensitive seizures (sometimes, really weird)... mostly on the
> computer. but tonight my friends are going to an old 3d classic horror
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>
> thanks
 
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