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Dona - 10 Jun 2004 22:15 GMT
My daddy probably won't make it through the summer. I still don't see how
any of us will make it though this.

Feels like this big black hole gobbling everything up.
Mary Fisher - 10 Jun 2004 22:31 GMT
> My daddy probably won't make it through the summer. I still don't see how
> any of us will make it though this.
>
> Feels like this big black hole gobbling everything up.

Dona, I'm sorry about your daddy but what's this about 'any of us' making it
through? Who and what do you mean?

Mary
Dona - 10 Jun 2004 23:32 GMT
My family seems intent on ripping each other to emotional shreds. My sisters
aren't talking to my brother. My mother isn't talking to one sister, and
won't stop screaming at my other sister. Bear in mind that I'm the youngest
at 43, so one would think we'd be well past this. I know this is a grief
reaction, but it still seriously sucks.

My father has been our anchor. I can't imagine how bad it's going to be
without him.
CyberCafe - 11 Jun 2004 04:07 GMT
> My family seems intent on ripping each other to emotional shreds. My sisters
> aren't talking to my brother. My mother isn't talking to one sister, and
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> My father has been our anchor. I can't imagine how bad it's going to be
> without him.

Don't know if our ISP delivered all the messages from you because I'm
kind of lost.  What's going on?

Barb
Dona - 11 Jun 2004 16:41 GMT
> Don't know if our ISP delivered all the messages from you because I'm
> kind of lost.  What's going on?

My father's dying from multimyeloma. We were told years, then a year, then
maybe tonight, then months, and now we're back to a year and a half.

Barb, a CNA informed me that no one uses hmidified oxygen anymore. The
hospice worker told my mother that Daddy didn't really have epilepsy, just
low potassium, and if he ate more bananas, he could stop taking his
Zonegran. Which he shouldn't be one anyway because he has no appetite in the
first place, and whenever I try to point out medical inconsistency-crap like
this I get poo-pooed, so I just go behind my sisters' and mother's backs and
call the doc to get it taken care of, and then they get huffy with me
because I "treat us like idiots".

My brother has now gone off all his antiseizure meds, and is eating bananas.
I told the CNA that I had never heard of hypokalemia causing seizures and
she informed me (in a very superior tone) that I was correct, but that low
potassium would. That's the last conversation I had with her. I haven't seen
her since I called the doctor and screamed for 20 minutes. Hopefully, the
hospice service understands not to send her back.
Allie M - 12 Jun 2004 04:57 GMT
Dona,

I'm so sorry to hear what's happening at your end right now *huggggggz all
the way from australia* I can't imagine how hard it must be for you at the
moment ... but if you need a sympathetic ear .. mine is always available...

*hugggz*

Allie M.

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CyberCafe - 14 Jun 2004 12:57 GMT
> > Don't know if our ISP delivered all the messages from you because I'm
> > kind of lost.  What's going on?
>
> My father's dying from multimyeloma. We were told years, then a year, then
> maybe tonight, then months, and now we're back to a year and a half.

Oh, Dona, I'm so sorry for your dad.

> Barb, a CNA informed me that no one uses hmidified oxygen anymore. The
> hospice worker told my mother that Daddy didn't really have epilepsy, just
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> call the doc to get it taken care of, and then they get huffy with me
> because I "treat us like idiots".

You know, that is spooky.  Is that hospice worker a nurse?

> My brother has now gone off all his antiseizure meds, and is eating bananas.
> I told the CNA that I had never heard of hypokalemia causing seizures and
> she informed me (in a very superior tone) that I was correct, but that low
> potassium would. That's the last conversation I had with her. I haven't seen
> her since I called the doctor and screamed for 20 minutes. Hopefully, the
> hospice service understands not to send her back.

I've heard the same thing, but the thing is if the person doesn't have that
particular problem, no amount of bananas is going to help anyway.  I think a CNA
like that is dangerous.  I don't know who you would report her to, but I think
she needs to be.

Barb
Mary Fisher - 11 Jun 2004 11:11 GMT
> My family seems intent on ripping each other to emotional shreds. My sisters
> aren't talking to my brother. My mother isn't talking to one sister, and
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> My father has been our anchor. I can't imagine how bad it's going to be
> without him.

Can you not leave?

Mary
Dona - 11 Jun 2004 16:30 GMT
If you're up for helping me kidnap Daddy and run off to some peaceful place,
you just let me know.

Of course he'd want to take my mother. And all his other little girls and
boy.

Actually I think a concentrated supply of valium planted in everyone's
morning coffee would do a world of good.
Mary Fisher - 11 Jun 2004 16:56 GMT
> If you're up for helping me kidnap Daddy and run off to some peaceful place,
> you just let me know.
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> Actually I think a concentrated supply of valium planted in everyone's
> morning coffee would do a world of good.

Oh, Dona ... I wish I could help.

Mary
Dona - 11 Jun 2004 17:04 GMT
You are. I'm sure you've noticed I have a incessent need to babble.
Mary Fisher - 11 Jun 2004 17:43 GMT
> You are. I'm sure you've noticed I have a incessent need to babble.

No, I haven't actually ... honestly.

But everything's relative :-)

Mary
shadowheart - 12 Jun 2004 21:49 GMT
>You are. I'm sure you've noticed I have a incessent need to babble.

Feel free to vent. Some of us have been there!
Dona - 11 Jun 2004 17:03 GMT
And on top of that, my mother keeps wanting me to leave two of my sons, who
are the apple of their eye (all my bosy are, but my 17yo landed a dream job
this summer, and my father won't even listen to the possibility of him not
taking it) up there (we live about 50 miles away). I can't. Daddy keeps
having crisis after crisis, and I refuse to have my sons spread out. If
something happens my boys need to be all together.

Kirby cannot be there all by himself. My oldest has a job this summer, and I
can't leave him alone here in case something happens.

We tried to move in with them, but my mother is insisting they want to be by
themselves. The Hospice counselor, said if I push it, it'll just cause hard
feelings, and my mother has to learn that she can't do this by herself. When
it gets to a certain point, Hospice will tell her that it's let us (family)
help or they'll put him in a nursing home.

He's my father, and I would move in in a heartbeat, BUT my boys are not
going to be his caretakers. I will, my sister's and my brother will, but my
10yo, 15yo and 17yo are not! They will be with him and hold him and snuggle
with him and share stories and everything else his soul needs, but they are
not doing the yucky stuff. He has four children, who are more than willing
to do this for our daddy. I don't know why my mother is being so bizarre
about this.

AND, it has been so, so long since I've had a cluster. It is my hope that
whoever is in charge of these things will hold off on them until this is all
over, because I don't think I can hold this all together in the midst of
one.

And I cry. I've always cried. Anything can set me off. A box of puppies for
sale, a sad song, movies, TV commercials. I have always been like this. Of
course now it's 100 times worse, which is fine. Everybody knows this about
me, and generally just react with eye rolls and teasing, but my one sister
is going ballistic over the fact that I'm crying in front of my father. I
don't think it bothers him. He knows me. She thinks I should leave the room.
I think he likes hugging me and calling me a big baby.

Are you sorry you asked yet? Hopefully the rants will be out of my system
soon. If not, feel free to skip.
Mary Fisher - 11 Jun 2004 17:45 GMT
> And on top of that, my mother keeps wanting me to leave two of my sons, who
> are the apple of their eye (all my bosy are, but my 17yo landed a dream job
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>
> Are you sorry you asked yet?

No.

> Hopefully the rants will be out of my system
> soon.

Dona, I've never heard these rants before. The groups is hear for people to
vent.

> If not, feel free to skip.

I'd only do that if it were repetitive. You've just told us something which
I've never suspected. Blub away.

Hugs,

Mary
Charani - 11 Jun 2004 18:08 GMT
> Are you sorry you asked yet? Hopefully the rants will be out of my system
> soon. If not, feel free to skip.

You've got a helluva lot on your plate at the moment, so rant away and feel
better for it.  For shame on anyone who cusses you for it.

Best wishes to you, your father and to the rest of your family.

Hugs
M - 12 Jun 2004 12:26 GMT
>And on top of that, my mother keeps wanting me to leave two of my sons, who
>are the apple of their eye (all my bosy are, but my 17yo landed a dream job
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>Are you sorry you asked yet? Hopefully the rants will be out of my system
>soon. If not, feel free to skip.

They're not rants, Dona. We're a support group and although some of
indulge in idle banter, even that's a form of support for us if we have
no other contact.

Things sound pretty rotten for you at the moment, and I hope they can
sort themselves out or you can prioritise in order to decide what means
most *at the moment* (not every decision has to be permanent?).

Thoughts are with you, and if you want to release it here, discuss it
here or just seek support here, then you're very, very welcome to do so.

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Raistlin - 13 Jun 2004 13:32 GMT
i agree with malcolm

Raist
turbinado - 14 Jun 2004 01:33 GMT
Have a hug Dona...
((((hug))))

> My daddy probably won't make it through the summer. I still don't see how
> any of us will make it though this.
>
> Feels like this big black hole gobbling everything up.
Mary Fisher - 14 Jun 2004 09:54 GMT
> Have a hug Dona...
> ((((hug))))
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> >
> > Feels like this big black hole gobbling everything up.

Dona, your daddy will die, we don't know when.

We all shall die, it's the culmination of life - the defining part of life.
You don't need to be gobbled up by a death, you'll come through it.

We're always here,

Hugs,

Mary
 
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