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Dona - 03 Jun 2004 16:41 GMT I'm curious how many of us are creative. I can make anything out of anything. And I mean anything.
Is anyone else like this?
My 15yo does origami, and he's attempting a dragon this morning. I didn't realize how stressful something like paper folding could be, but he's swearing a blue streak.
David Ruether - 03 Jun 2004 21:27 GMT > I'm curious how many of us are creative. I can make anything out of > anything. And I mean anything. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > realize how stressful something like paper folding could be, but he's > swearing a blue streak. I swear at everything - until stuttering stops me so badly that I can't say/swear anything! Been into photography and video as art (and commerce...;-), started in architecture - see more on the web site, below... -- David Ruether http://www.ferrario.com/ruether
Daz_n_Pat - 03 Jun 2004 21:39 GMT > > I'm curious how many of us are creative. I can make anything out of > > anything. And I mean anything. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > David Ruether > http://www.ferrario.com/ruether I am quite good at freehand drawing - cartooning. Always have been. My father wrote a book on fitness and I drew humorous cartoons for every chapter heading. I also have some photography, not the best in the world, but I enjoy it. It can be viewed at the below address:
http://www.photosnapper.com/modules/Gallery/showgallery.php?cat=500&ppuser=2 79
Darryl.
Donal - 04 Jun 2004 00:04 GMT Dona montynaaa@hotmail.com scribbled -
>I'm curious how many of us are creative. I can make anything out of anything. And I mean anything.<
>Is anyone else like this?<
>My 15yo does origami, and he's attempting a dragon this morning. I didn't realize how stressful something like paper folding could be, but he's swearing a blue streak.<
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Hi Dona, I am into art and design. My strong point is sketching, probably because I enjoy it most, but I also dabble in painting, photography as well as arts and crafts. I make photo/picture/mirror frames, from sand, shells, and other things gathered on a nearby beach. I also make 3D pictures from bits and pieces, like twigs, dried grasses, flowers and wool to name a few gathered from the odd fence.
Regards Danny
www.hand-coloured.net Hard Hat Area - Under Construction
Dona - 03 Jun 2004 23:41 GMT David and Darrel, those are great.
I've spent the day sorting through the 1000's and 1000's of my dad's slides from WWII to the late 70's. I'd love to be able to share them, but my scanner is decomposing.
The UofM is looking into a grant to get his work all properly archieved. I didn't realize it was such a complicated process. When they found out all the slides had been stored in old Malboro ciggarette boxes for all these years I thought someone would have a stroke.
David Ruether - 03 Jun 2004 23:51 GMT > David and Darrel, those are great. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the slides had been stored in old Malboro ciggarette boxes for all these > years I thought someone would have a stroke. If they are flat, and were stored in a cool and dry (and dark) place, and were Kodachromes, chances are good that they are still in good shape. The early ones would be interesting to see! Unfortunately, we still don't have digital storage methods that are as good as the best analogue (at least without upkeep, as with periodic copying of the digital data...). -- DR
Daz_n_Pat - 04 Jun 2004 13:56 GMT > > David and Darrel, those are great. > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > as with periodic copying of the digital data...). > -- DR David if the images are stored as TIFF files, there is no loss of image quality with copying and enhancing etc, that I am aware of.
Oh, I am also writing a novel - been on the shelf for a wee while now, but I must get back to it one day soon.
Darryl.
David Ruether - 04 Jun 2004 22:51 GMT > > If they are flat, and were stored in a cool and dry (and dark) > > place, and were Kodachromes, chances are good that they [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > as with periodic copying of the digital data...). > > -- DR
> David if the images are stored as TIFF files, there is no loss of image > quality with copying and enhancing etc, that I am aware of. The tif (TIFF) is OK so long as it is not corrupted on the storage medium/device - and THAT's the problem, alas. HDs, CDs, DVDs, etc. are not reliable for very long. While analogue storage can suffer slow changes and losses, and digital storage doesn't, digital info can suffer catastrophic losses. If it is copied before damage happens, all is well - but it is hard to predict when the losses will happen...
> Oh, I am also writing a novel - been on the shelf for a wee while now, but I > must get back to it one day soon. > > Darryl. Make analogue print-outs...! ;-) -- David Ruether rpn1@cornell.edu http://www.ferrario.com/ruether
Dave ???? - 04 Jun 2004 02:32 GMT > I'm curious how many of us are creative. I can make anything out of > anything. And I mean anything. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > realize how stressful something like paper folding could be, but he's > swearing a blue streak. Howdy Dona!
Looks like just about every response that you've received so far has been related to "art" per se.
In my experience, a lot of us have creative talents not so much in the arts but in literature and poetry.
I have come across a lot of folks with epilepsy who are prolific writers.
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Suzanne Akins - 12 Jun 2004 01:05 GMT Hi, Dave and everyone. Long time, no contact. (I'll elaborate another time, perhaps.) You are quite correct concerning the abilities of folks here at alt. support. epilepsy. Speaking for myself, I have written poetry since childhood. I wouldn't claim to be prolific, but, I am sincere. Blessings, Suzanne
> Looks like just about every response that you've received so far has been related to "art" per se. In my experience, a lot of us have creative talents not so much in the arts but in literature and poetry. I have come across a lot of folks with epilepsy who are prolific writers.
> > I'm curious how many of us are creative. I can make anything out of anything. And I mean anything. Is anyone else like this?
> > My 15yo does origami, and he's attempting a dragon this morning. I didn't realize how stressful something like paper folding could be, but he's swearing a blue streak.
Mary Fisher - 12 Jun 2004 11:38 GMT > Hi, Dave and everyone. > Long time, no contact. (I'll elaborate another time, perhaps.) [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > not so much in the arts but in literature and poetry. I have come across a > lot of folks with epilepsy who are prolific writers. You don't consider writing of any kind to be an art form?
Mary
> > > I'm curious how many of us are creative. I can make anything out of > anything. And I mean anything. Is anyone else like this? > > > > > > My 15yo does origami, and he's attempting a dragon this morning. I > didn't realize how stressful something like paper folding could be, but he's > swearing a blue streak. Dawn Compton - 13 Jun 2004 03:55 GMT Suzanne wrote:
>In my experience, a lot of us have creative >talents not so much in the arts but in literature >and poetry. I have come across a lot of folks >with epilepsy who are prolific writers. This is to all. I just realized something strange. I used to not be able to write poetry at all. I could never come up with ideas or make it have a point to it. Here lately, I have found out I am getting pretty good at it and several people who have read my poems say they are good and they can be easily understood. I have written nine poems-in four or six line stanzas anywhere from five stanzas to sixeen-just in the past five days. I figure it is a coincidence, but could it be related to epilepsy?
g-mal - 18 Jun 2004 21:06 GMT > Suzanne wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the past five days. I figure it is a coincidence, but could it be > related to epilepsy? Congratulations, ray! Your IQ score is 176
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Dave ???? - 13 Jun 2004 06:14 GMT > You don't consider writing of any kind to be an art form? > > Mary Howdy Mary!
I've always seen them differentiated as:
ART & LITERATURE
I just thought that I'd follow suit.
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Mary Fisher - 13 Jun 2004 12:48 GMT > > You don't consider writing of any kind to be an art form? > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I just thought that I'd follow suit. So, by 'art' do you mean graphic art, or three dimensional art?
And where does music come in?
Mary
Marco - 13 Jun 2004 15:07 GMT > So, by 'art' do you mean graphic art, or three dimensional art? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Dave ???? >> http://www.howdydave.com That would be me I guess...playing guitar and stuff :-)
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Bye, Marco
Raistlin - 13 Jun 2004 15:16 GMT > That would be me I guess...playing guitar and stuff :-) .. and me <waves> bass-guitar and stuff ;-)
Raist
Marco - 13 Jun 2004 15:32 GMT >> That would be me I guess...playing guitar and stuff :-) > > .. and me <waves> bass-guitar and stuff ;-) > > Raist Hey cool man...what kind of music do you play? I (try) to play music from Joe Satriani (http://www.satriani.com) which means I am playing solo all the time :-))) I used to play in a band and we played a couple of times in a rock/punk cafe -to picture it: a cafe with guys with red/green/purple (long) hair with gallons of jell in it to have the hair stand up (if you know what I mean) and leather jackets. They even did not throw beer at us so I guess we were not "that" bad...hehehe.
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Bye, Marco
Raistlin - 13 Jun 2004 16:09 GMT hey, *of course* i know satriani!
what music ... huh, difficult question ... let's call it "independent" ;-) however, the style i play is funky.
Raist
Mary Fisher - 13 Jun 2004 20:45 GMT > Hey cool man...what kind of music do you play? I (try) to play music from > Joe Satriani (http://www.satriani.com) which means I am playing solo all the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I mean) and leather jackets. They even did not throw beer at us so I guess > we were not "that" bad...hehehe. You mean you had to buy your own beer?
Boy, you must be bad ...
Mary
Marco - 14 Jun 2004 04:43 GMT > You mean you had to buy your own beer? > > Boy, you must be bad ... > > Mary We were already kicked out by then -tsjee, did I not tell you that in the first place? :-))
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Bye, Marco
Mary Fisher - 14 Jun 2004 09:47 GMT > > You mean you had to buy your own beer? > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > We were already kicked out by then -tsjee, did I not tell you that in the > first place? :-)) sorry, I can't remember a think about this part of the thread, I must have drunk too much ... :-)
Mary
> That would be me I guess...playing guitar and stuff :-) .. and me <waves> bass-guitar and stuff ;-)
Raist
Raistlin - 13 Jun 2004 15:38 GMT .. my apologies for these "double incident" something here isn't quite working somehow - either it's my computer or it's my head *hmpf* can anyone tell me why posts show up with "<>" instead of my name or a second time with a "<>"???
Raist
Marco - 13 Jun 2004 15:40 GMT > .. my apologies for these "double incident" something here isn't quite > working somehow - either it's my computer or it's my head *hmpf* > can anyone tell me why posts show up with "<>" instead of my name or a > second time with a "<>"??? > > Raist What do you use for news reader and what is the OS?
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Bye, Marco
Raistlin - 13 Jun 2004 15:52 GMT sorry - what?
Raist
Marco - 13 Jun 2004 15:58 GMT > sorry - what? > > Raist What kind of newsgroup reader do you use to post the message in this newsgroup and what kind of Operating System (Windows95, Windows 98, Windows XP)? Maybe something is wrong in the newsgroup reader that messages are being posted twice without <>, etc.
But I see it does not happen anymore -so it is allright then I guess?
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Bye, Marco
gaross - 13 Jun 2004 17:34 GMT > sorry - what? > > Raist I'll mail you (separate) a copy of 'what your headers' look like. Somewhere when you subscribed, or the Server you used to 'come here' it's putting < >s around your Email address. That works like [ ] s in that if someone Clicks on Reply to Sender to try Write you about something off the Group, the TO address becomes Blank, so unless they knew how to open those headers they couldn't drop you a note. The reason your Internet Provider or Newsgroup server might do that, is you likely also get almost NO Junkmail, vs. the 48 I just spent last hour Discarding, and getting removed for harvesting my address here.
IF you want people to write you, they'll have to post Here first, and ask you to send them your Address, then you can write them or Reply to Sender only and send it if you decide you want them to chat with you. Some people around don't want personal contacts. Many do. G./
Dave ???? - 14 Jun 2004 02:10 GMT > > "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message> > > You don't consider writing of any kind to be an art form?
> > > Mary > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Mary Howdy Mary!
I've always associated "art" with the senses: sight (pleasing to the eye) sound (music) taste (cooking, vintnering) touch (we could go all sorts of places with this one!) smell (ditto)
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Mary Fisher - 14 Jun 2004 09:50 GMT > > > "Mary Fisher" <mary.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message> > > You don't > consider writing of any kind to be an art form? [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > touch (we could go all sorts of places with this one!) > smell (ditto) I'd agree with all that to some extent - some more than others :-)))))))
But <calm down, woman> my definition of art isn't about being pleasing to anything. To me, art is an interpretation of one's experience. The 'one' being the 'artist'. Therefore not everyone might find the result pleasing to the eye, ear, mouth or whatever but art it still is - if wrought thinkingly, deliberately and for the above reason.
Mary
Suzanne Akins - 14 Jun 2004 05:47 GMT > And where does music come in? Hi, Mary. Do you (or anyone else here) do any singing? I've been making melody and harmony almost all my life. I'll sing a bit with the guitars, if you want. Suzanne
Mary Fisher - 14 Jun 2004 09:52 GMT > > And where does music come in? > > > Hi, Mary. > Do you (or anyone else here) do any singing? I've been making melody > and harmony almost all my life. I'll sing a bit with the guitars, if you > want. I used to but, I'm ashamed to say, smoking did my voice no favours.
COME BACK DAVE AND MALCOLM!
I haven't smoked for 21 years! I've been a good girl. Well, I'm always told I'm good :-)
Used to play the guitar a bit and piano and a bit of dancing before I got too fat (I'm ruining my chances!)
So I shan't be very good with the entertainment. But I can applaud very enthusiastically!
Mary
> Suzanne Dave ???? - 15 Jun 2004 01:34 GMT > > And where does music come in? > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > want. > Suzanne Howdy!
I am (well... I WAS before I got my VNS) a Barbershopper and a Doo Wopper!
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Suzanne Akins - 15 Jun 2004 03:31 GMT Dear Dave, Barbershop and Doo Wop? Neat!!! Forgive my lack of knowledge, --- I have a question. Since your VNS sends a constant electrical current through your body, is this what makes singing more difficult (or impossible) now? I like to sing in my church choir and with my radio station and CDs.
:-) Suzanne
> Howdy! > > I am (well... I WAS before I got my VNS) a Barbershopper and a Doo Wopper! Dave ???? - 15 Jun 2004 07:32 GMT Howdy Suzanne!
My VNS is on for 30 seconds and off for 5 minutes.
Since the vagus nerve is connected to the larynx, whenever there is a current running to my vagus nerve my voice becomes (for want of a better term) "gravelly" -- my tone is gone and I can't hold a pitch. The repeated stimulation also leaves a thin protective layer of phlem on the vocal chords.
One thing that they never tell you about the VNS... electricity runs both ways along the nerve! The stimulation not only runs up to your brain -- it also runs down the nerve to the organs connected to it.
I KNOW what it does to my voice but I can only imagine what it is doing to my sinuses, ear, tongue, heart, diaphram, oesophagus, stomach and intestines!
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> Dear Dave, > Barbershop and Doo Wop? Neat!!! Forgive my lack of knowledge, --- I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > I am (well... I WAS before I got my VNS) a Barbershopper and a Doo Wopper! Mary Fisher - 15 Jun 2004 10:27 GMT > I am (well... I WAS before I got my VNS) a ... Doo Wopper! Wossat, then?
Mary
Marco - 04 Jun 2004 05:30 GMT > I'm curious how many of us are creative. I can make anything out of > anything. And I mean anything. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > didn't realize how stressful something like paper folding could be, > but he's swearing a blue streak. I have been playing guitar since I was 15 years old and I used to play in a band (no profs) + playing in cafes, etc. I am still playing, creating / thinking / listening to music and hopefully I join into a new band very soon. That I left the band had nothing to do with epilepsy by the way.
Cheers,
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Bye, Marco
Dawn Compton - 04 Jun 2004 05:37 GMT >I'm curious how many of us are creative. Not me. I do good to make recognizable stick figures and basic shapes. LOL.
Allie M - 04 Jun 2004 07:56 GMT does web design count? I have a site dedicated to epilepsy and i made it all by myself ... and i like sketching ...
allie m
Dave ???? - 04 Jun 2004 20:33 GMT Howdy!
Me too!
All of my html code is hand written and I have more than 28 pages on my site! Does that count?
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> does web design count? I have a site dedicated to epilepsy and i made it all > by myself ... and i like sketching ... > > allie m Allie M - 05 Jun 2004 07:32 GMT heheh dave
i guess we are talented ;p
web designer extraordinare from down under .... allie m.
> Howdy! > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > allie m Pablo - 04 Jun 2004 11:02 GMT g'day dona, i'm really good at turning plant life into a lovely shade brown. pablo
> I'm curious how many of us are creative. I can make anything out of > anything. And I mean anything. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > realize how stressful something like paper folding could be, but he's > swearing a blue streak. David Ruether - 04 Jun 2004 13:07 GMT > g'day dona, > i'm really good at turning plant life into a lovely shade brown. > pablo ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-) !!!!!
--DR
Daz_n_Pat - 04 Jun 2004 14:33 GMT > > g'day dona, > > i'm really good at turning plant life into a lovely shade brown. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > --DR David, you have found your talent!!! Those are the best smiley faces I've ever seen!!
:-) Darryl.
Dave ???? - 04 Jun 2004 20:35 GMT > > ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-), ;-) > !!!!! [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > :-) > Darryl. Howdy David!
I think so too! I especially like that little dimple on the chin!
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Dona - 04 Jun 2004 20:40 GMT > I think so too! I especially like that little dimple on the chin! Is that what it was? I thought it was a bit of left over lunch.
Dawn Compton - 05 Jun 2004 06:35 GMT This is a smiley face one of my friends taught me.
= : - ) -
Just in case no one figures it out, the = is hair and the - is the tongue sticking out.
Dona - 04 Jun 2004 13:44 GMT Oh me too! I have a massive spider plant and this viney thing that's taken over half the living room that I've had since college.
Everything else just up and poofs. My mother just gave me one of my greatgrandma's plants. She claims it's impossible to, but I'm sure I'll kill it.
Pablo - 04 Jun 2004 20:20 GMT g'day dona, actually the best one, was when my mother told me about this great product "weed & feed" which boosts the lawn while killing off all the broadleaf weeds. so i goes out and buys a packet and spends the afternoon spreading it around the back yard. a few days later i went to do the front yard and then i notice on the pack that it is not suitable for buffalo grass. yep, you guessed it my lovely back lawn is very sickly. but at least the front lawn presents a fairly reasonable picture to the passers-by as it was spared a dose of this wonderful stuff. old brown thumb strikes again :-( pablo
> Oh me too! I have a massive spider plant and this viney thing that's taken > over half the living room that I've had since college. > > Everything else just up and poofs. My mother just gave me one of my > greatgrandma's plants. She claims it's impossible to, but I'm sure I'll kill > it. M - 05 Jun 2004 00:51 GMT >g'day dona, >actually the best one, was when my mother told me about this great product [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >spared a dose of this wonderful stuff. old brown thumb strikes again :-( >pablo I did that too. My garden was allowed to deteriorate by the previous owner, and I felt a bit of a fool buying a mower to mow the dandelions. But I got it into a semblance of a lawn, and got some Weed&Feed stuff to finish the job and kill off the moss. As there is no wall between our front gardens, there is also a second lawn which is half mine, half my neighbour's, so being the gentleman that I am, I mowed his lawn for him and applied the Weed&Feed to his part as well.
Within a week, not only had all the dandelions and moss turned black and died (good), but the grass had all dried out and died, and I had turned his lawn into a bare sheet of soil and dead plants (badbadbad) :(
I dug up the back lawn (where my predecessor had his train set together with model town) and turned it into a vegetable patch and slug zoo. The grass *there* is growing back nicely :(
Ah well, you can never win.
In an hour's time I shall have gone one week off pills. And I've only got another 13 reports to write! Then I can enjoy my half term and do something fun. Oh what do you mean there's only a day of it left?
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Daz_n_Pat - 04 Jun 2004 14:02 GMT > g'day dona, > i'm really good at turning plant life into a lovely shade brown. > pablo LMAO Pablo, I think that's yet another of my many sadly under-rated talents. It's kind of like a colouring in thing. And I always manage to get the brown to stay on the leaves, never goes outside the lines. Darryl.
Suzanne Akins - 12 Jun 2004 01:08 GMT G'day, Pablo. Ah, indeed! A fellow member of the Black Thumb Club, eh? Grinning in Lone Star, Suzanne
> g'day dona, > i'm really good at turning plant life into a lovely shade brown. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > realize how stressful something like paper folding could be, but he's > > swearing a blue streak. Pablo - 12 Jun 2004 03:46 GMT G'day Suzanne, oh yes the yard is a sea of brown. but since it's winter here everyone else's garden is starting to look the same, so i don't stand out so much. pablo
> G'day, Pablo. > Ah, indeed! A fellow member of the Black Thumb Club, eh? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > i'm really good at turning plant life into a lovely shade brown. > > pablo Suzanne Akins - 13 Jun 2004 06:30 GMT Hi, Pablo. Isn't it great when, by happy accident, your "strange" lawn doesn't look so strange because everyone else is equally dark? Seems like a thought that could be applied to personalities sometimes too. No? Suzanne
> G'day Suzanne, oh yes the yard is a sea of brown. but since it's winter here everyone else's garden is starting to look the same, so i don't stand out so much.
> pablo > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > i'm really good at turning plant life into a lovely shade brown. > > > pablo Mary Fisher - 13 Jun 2004 12:47 GMT > Hi, Pablo. > Isn't it great when, by happy accident, your "strange" lawn doesn't > look so strange because everyone else is equally dark? Seems like a thought > that could be applied to personalities sometimes too. No? > Suzanne I've come to the conclusion that growing grass only to cut it, weed it, trim the edges and water it is a waste of time and energy. Turn it over to growing vegetables.
Mary
Pablo - 13 Jun 2004 21:57 GMT > > Hi, Pablo. > > Isn't it great when, by happy accident, your "strange" lawn doesn't [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mary yeah, but then you have to hoe them, grow them, dust them, weed them, pick them and cook them. that sounds even more strenuous. pablo
Mary Fisher - 13 Jun 2004 22:14 GMT > > > Hi, Pablo. > > > Isn't it great when, by happy accident, your "strange" lawn doesn't [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > yeah, but then you have to hoe them, No you don't.
> grow them, they grow themselves :-)
> dust them, DUST them???? I don't dust anything!
> weed them, Not if you do it properly
> pick them easier and more pleasant than shopping ...
> and cook them. You can grow veggies which you eat raw ...
> that sounds even more strenuous. No it's not, it's a joy. Far less strenuous than keeping grass growing and green then cutting it ...
Mary
> pablo enigma - 22 Jun 2004 13:12 GMT > I'm curious how many of us are creative. I can make anything out of > anything. And I mean anything. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > realize how stressful something like paper folding could be, but he's > swearing a blue streak. yep. musician / artist (etching and graphic art) / writer
i love orgami. actually it helps me relax if its simple enough. but i learnt it as a kid.
art is one of the things that gets me feeling better after a partial seizure hangover.
mc
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--Morpheus: The Matrix
Roger Blair - 26 Jun 2004 02:11 GMT are you the same allie m thats on yahoo epilepsy chat? .take care
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