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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Epilepsy / May 2004Noni Juice
hey all, is there anyone out there taking Noni Juice for their epilepsy? has it helped? do you know of any interactions with AEDs, SSRI's, etc ? i'm gonna start it, but i'm a little apprehensive... thanks in advance, phil >hey all, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >thanks in advance, >phil Noni juice has been promoted for many diseases, including cancer and brain tumors. It is scientifically worthless. Before you take anything "on top" of conventional epilepsy treatment, clear it with your doctor. Best, Bob Robert A. Fink, M.D., FACS, P. C. 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222 Berkeley, California 94704-2636 USA Telephone: 510-849-2555 FAX: 510-849-2557 <http://www.rafink.com> "Ex Tristitia Virtus" -------------------------------------- NOTE: The above message is not to be considered as "medical advice". Medical advice can be given only after a "hands-on" examination of the patient by a physician. ======================================== thanks, i look into it more as i do have a brain tumour (grade 1 front right temporal lobe)which causes my epilespy. i've read a lot of stuff about it on the net about being effective with cancers... but the net's the net. what do you mean by scientifcally useless...? has there been studies? thanks, phil > >hey all, > > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > ======================================== Dr. Bob is our Main Neurologist who drops by to give us comments and keep us on track. He lives in the UK, so it'll likely be tomorrow or later before this message (yours) gets an answer. (8 PM Eastern is 1AM in the UK). G. (In my opinion, if he says it's useless wrt Ep. treatments, it is.) / > thanks, i look into it more as i do have a brain tumour (grade 1 front right > temporal lobe)which causes my epilespy. i've read a lot of stuff about it on [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > > > ======================================== Here is a literature review of Noni research that some of you might be interested in. I don't know how believable it is and I haven't read it myself but a quick look doesn't seem to show anything to do with epilepsy. Maybe there's something in the references. I think access to the article is free through PubMed. I didn't see any reports of Noni being used as a treatment for epilepsy on PubMed. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstra ct&list_uids=12466051 1: Acta Pharmacol Sin. 2002 Dec;23(12):1127-41. Morinda citrifolia (Noni): a literature review and recent advances in Noni research. Wang MY, West BJ, Jensen CJ, Nowicki D, Su C, Palu AK, Anderson G. University of Illinois College of Medicine, Department of Pathology, 1601 Parkview Avenue, Rockford, IL 61107, USA. mianwang@uic Morinda citrifolia L (Noni) has been used in folk remedies by Polynesians for over 2000 years, and is reported to have a broad range of therapeutic effects, including antibacterial, antiviral, antifungal, antitumor, antihelmin, analgesic, hypotensive, anti-inflammatory, and immune enhancing effects. In order to reveal the nutritional and medicinal value of the Noni plant, and to summarize scientific evidence that supports the Polynesians' claim, a literature review and recent advances in Noni research is given below. > Dr. Bob is our Main Neurologist who drops by to give us comments and keep > us on track. [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > > > > > ======================================== >He lives in the UK, so it'll likely be tomorrow or later before this >message (yours) gets an answer. (8 PM Eastern is 1AM in the UK). G. (In >my opinion, if he says it's useless wrt Ep. treatments, it is.) / Dr. Bob (me) lives in California, not the UK. See my response. Best, Bob Robert A. Fink, M.D., FACS, P. C. 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222 Berkeley, California 94704-2636 USA Telephone: 510-849-2555 FAX: 510-849-2557 <http://www.rafink.com> "Ex Tristitia Virtus" -------------------------------------- NOTE: The above message is not to be considered as "medical advice". Medical advice can be given only after a "hands-on" examination of the patient by a physician. ======================================== Oops!! (Muar have been your accent! :-> ) G./ > >He lives in the UK, so it'll likely be tomorrow or later before this > >message (yours) gets an answer. (8 PM Eastern is 1AM in the UK). G. (In [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > ======================================== Must be the 'noni'... That should have said 'must have been'... etc.... :-< G./ "gaross" <> wrote in message > Oops!! (Muar have been your accent! :-> ) G./ > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > > > ======================================== > Must be the 'noni'... Especially after it has been fermented & bottled.<g> > That should have said 'must have been'... etc.... Thash alright. Don't worry about it. :-) > :-< G./ Bob > "gaross" <> wrote in message > > Oops!! (Muar have been your accent! :-> ) G./ [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > > > > ======================================== >what do you mean by scientifcally useless...? has there been studies? I don't think that there have been any formal studies. Check out "Quackwatch" abd the American Cancer Society Websites. The "science" put out by the Noni Juice sellers makes no sense at all. Best, Bob Robert A. Fink, M.D., FACS, P. C. 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222 Berkeley, California 94704-2636 USA Telephone: 510-849-2555 FAX: 510-849-2557 <http://www.rafink.com> "Ex Tristitia Virtus" -------------------------------------- NOTE: The above message is not to be considered as "medical advice". Medical advice can be given only after a "hands-on" examination of the patient by a physician. ======================================== > >hey all, > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222 > Berkeley, California 94704-2636 USA I wouldn't be too quick to disregard the benefits of "folk" remedies. The medical profession are very good at treating SYMPTOMS, but seldom address the CAUSE of an ailment. (They make more money this way). Further, they pay NO heed to anecdotal evidence of an alternative being effective (testimonials by people using an alternative treatment). There are a lot of remedies out there which are not sanctioned by the medical profession which DO work very well. Antioxidants is just one example. I took a dozen or so testamonials to my doctor, of people who have all had DRAMATIC results with cancer by using very high levels of antioxidants, some even cured, and he disregarded them as just stories, even when I showed him microscope pictures of the effects it had on the body. I personally know a girl who had inoperable tumours in her stomach and drank two to three litres of carrot juice (which contains beta carotine - a strong antioxidant) daily and after some time her tumours shrank to the size of marbles, much to the doctor's surprise - "it's a miracle" - and were easily removed. So, while the Noni juice may not be recognized by the medical profession as having any therapeutic benefits, it doesn't necessarily mean that this is the case. Why not try it for a while, from what I see it can't be too bad for you. By the way.....in case you haven't picked up on it, I don't hold the medical profession in terribly high regard. Great to visit if you have a broken bone or a bad cut....not much use for anything else. Just MHO. Darryl. -- ------------------------------------------- To email, change daryl to darryl in address. ------------------------------------------- I have never heard of this substance. Can anyone explain to me what "Noni Juice" is? |
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