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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Epilepsy / May 2004Marijuana Causes Seizures!
I found this sight on a search of my own for answers. I know with 101% that my seizures where caused by Marijuana. Back in April of 2002 I was 18 going on 19 and I had a Grand Mal Seizure a couple minutes after smoking Marijuana. That was the first time I ever smoked it. Then in May of the same year I had a second seizure after getting into a car that had been 'smoked out' in. Shortly after I lost my drivers license and have not been able to get it back since. About two weeks ago I walked through a cloud of 'Pot' smoke and had an asthma like reaction to it. It was so severe it was to the point where my toung was so swollen that it was protruding out of my mouth. I can't be anywhere near it at all. Without any doubt by myself or my family Marijuana was the cause of my Seizures. If anyone has any hard facts about Marijuana causing Seizures???? Thank you, BMF Howdy BMF! It almost sounds to me as if you are talking about an: ALERGIC REACTION TO MARIJUANA! The only information that I've found about marijuana and epilepsy has to do with using marijuana as a theraputic drug after epilepsy has been diagnosed. I must say that, in your case, it sounds like there is most probably a cause and effect relationship... Exactly WHAT that relationship IS will probably need further investigation. That is... if you are a dyed in the wool, hell bent for leather, gotta' know for sure, scientific mindset sort of a person who over-analyses everything, sort of a person! Personally, I never heard of anybody like that around these parts, how about the rest of ya'll? :D  SignatureDave ???? "Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus" http://www.howdydave.com > I found this sight on a search of my own for answers. I know with 101% > that my seizures where caused by Marijuana. Back in April of 2002 I was 18 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > BMF Just out of curiosity, I googled marijuana allergies and found lots of stuff. There are rumors that Bruce Lee actually died from an allergic reaction to marijuana. Dave ©¿©¬ <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote >That is... if you are a dyed in the wool, hell bent for leather, gotta' know >for sure, scientific mindset sort of a person who over-analyses everything, >sort of a person! > >Personally, I never heard of anybody like that around these parts, how about >the rest of ya'll? :D Speaking. SignatureMalcolm > >That is... if you are a dyed in the wool, hell bent for leather, gotta' know > >for sure, scientific mindset sort of a person who over-analyses everything! > >Personally, I never heard of anybody like that around these parts, how about > >the rest of ya'll? :D > > Speaking. Howdy Malcom! You saying that you've heard of someone or that you're the one? I KNOW that you can't be talkin' about me! SignatureDave ???? "Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus" http://www.howdydave.com The reason I asked is because I can't seem to find anyone with a similar reaction either. Thank you all for your help. I guess I will just keep on searching. Thanks again, BMF Have you done a basic google on it? I got quite a few hits with "marijuana allergy" and "allergic reaction to marijuana". Dave ©¿©¬ <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote >> >That is... if you are a dyed in the wool, hell bent for leather, >> >gotta' know for sure, scientific mindset sort of a person who over- [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >I KNOW that you can't be talkin' about me! !!! I AM THE ONE !!!! Extract from recent post by yours truly on another site, demonstrating the obsessive analytical level at which some people's minds function: ******************************************************************* Inertia is when your bathroom clock says 4:10 for the past five months and you've done nothing about it, even though you bought a new packet of new cells a few days after it stopped. (And every day you lie back in the bath and muse on the fact that the second hand of clocks always stops between 40 and 45 seconds past the minute because that is the point of maximum leverage, and the gearing of the mechanism means that the current drain for the second hand is sixty times more than for the minute hand because it moves sixty times as fast, although the relative weights of minute and second hands will affect this figure but it is unlikely that the minute hand will ever have priority on the critical stopping position because it is unlikely that it will ever be sixty times as heavy.) ******************************************************************* I keep telling you - TLE has more interictal effects than ictal ones, but nobody believes me :((((( SignatureMalcolm > >> >That is... if you are a dyed in the wool, hell bent for leather, > >> >gotta' know for sure, scientific mindset sort of a person who over- [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > I keep telling you - TLE has more interictal effects than ictal ones, > but nobody believes me :((((( Howdy Malcom! Then again... I had a clock that stopped one time because the hour hand was sticking up too far from the face of the clock. It blocked all of the other hands from getting past it! For the sake of international understanding (after all -- you talk English and I talk American)... What is your definition of: "interictal effects"? (You talkin' about the "normal thought process"?) I think that maybe it's just because our (yours and mine) dominant side of the brain is the "analytical" side whereas most people's dominant side is the "artsy fartsy" side! SignatureDave ???? "Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus" "Ego sum quis ego sum quod ut est quicumque ego sum" http://www.howdydave.com Dave ©¿©¬ <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote >Howdy Malcom! >For the sake of international understanding (after all -- you talk English >and I talk American)... > >What is your definition of: "interictal effects"? >(You talkin' about the "normal thought process"?) Ictal = seizure time Interictal = between seizures Therefore 'interictal effects' are the everyday non-seizure effects which TLE has upon our mind such as thinking, personality, psychiatric, somnolent, sex, facial recognition etc. If I have been classified as epileptic because of a *constant* slow wave spike in the theta region, it must have some *constant* effect upon my everyday life apart from lowering my seizure threshold. Even although I am fully controlled, it screws up the input/output of my verbal faculties awfully from time to time. >I think that maybe it's just because our (yours and mine) dominant side of >the brain is the "analytical" side whereas most people's dominant side is >the "artsy fartsy" side! The psychometric testing merely said that my brain was 'organised differently to most people', which seems a bit of a back-out and can be translated as "Once again, we haven't a clue!". I most certainly feel, think and act differently to most people, so there must be a reason. Don't forget, epilepsy is only a symptom. SignatureMalcolm > >Howdy Malcom! > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > I most certainly feel, think and act differently to most people, so > there must be a reason. Don't forget, epilepsy is only a symptom. Howdy Malcom! THAT'S GREAT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Next time somebody tells me I'm weird, or says "What, are you nuts?" I'll just show them my MedicAlert bracelet and say: "Yup... that's because I have epilepsy! What's your excuse?" SignatureDave ???? "Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus" "Ego sum quis ego sum quod ut est quicumque ego sum" http://www.howdydave.com That's an interesting perspective. I can relate to that - I always feel that there's something different about my consciousness, thought processes, etc. > Ictal = seizure time > Interictal = between seizures [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > -- > Malcolm > >Howdy Malcom! > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > I most certainly feel, think and act differently to most people, so > there must be a reason. Don't forget, epilepsy is only a symptom. Howdy Malcom! I always knew that my thought process was "different" than anybody else's that I'd met. This difference became redily apparant when I was a computer science major at university. I won't bore you with the incidents, suffice it to say that I discovered that my mind worked via INductive logic whereas everybody elses worked by DEductive logic. I have no explinations. My father always did say that I had a tendency to get things "a.s-backwards", now I know why! SignatureDave ???? "Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus" "Ego sum quis ego sum quod ut est quicumque ego sum" http://www.howdydave.com I've always felt "different" too. Actually this entire thread is bothering me. So how much of what I've always thought was unique and original about me is just because of the epilepsy? >I've always felt "different" too. > >Actually this entire thread is bothering me. My apologies - it was not meant to offend. >So how much of what I've always >thought was unique and original about me is just because of the epilepsy? Everyone is unique and original, do not dismiss it as a failing or as a fault. What I meant in my previous post is that some of my personal characteristics must be linked to my TLE (or whatever causes my TLE). My personal characteristics include the way I behave, the way I analyse things, the way I socialise (or more accurately, hide), and all the things which make me Malcolm, including long-winded posts and Monday morning grumpiness! We don't need to be ashamed of the people we are, nor do we need to be ashamed to be different. There was a time when I thought I'd have to mould myself from an introverted epileptic with all my oddities into a 'normal' person and merge seamlessly into society. Now I feel that an introverted epileptic is a valid person to be, with no need to change. If self-esteem is to be maintained, I need a certain amount of pride in most of what I am. If we don't have this belief, how can we make others accept that being epileptic is OK? The 'epileptic personality' may be different from others, but it's no better or worse in value (apart from life-expectancy). Epilepsy is only the outward sign of the undercurrents in the brain, therefore personal differences depend upon the source of epilepsy. If the circuit diagram for the brain is incorrect, there are billions of other ways in which it could affect the 'unique and original' you, but you would still be you. Just remember that different is not a fault, no matter what causes it. And if this thread bothers you somehow, please let us know why. SignatureMalcolm > Everyone is unique and original, do not dismiss it as a failing or as a > fault. I don't. Unique and original are prideful words. I like that about myself. I was bragging, not knocking myself. What bothers me is that the parts of me that I've always taken pride in, my "originality", the ability to look at things in new ways, my artistic talents, my abilty to read people (not supernaturally, just good at charecter assessment), all these things might not be me at all, but a standard set of personal charecteristics for an epileptic. I don't think I'm willing to buy into that. Not so much because I can offer up facts against, but mostly because I don't want it to be so. So there! :) And I'm an extroverted epileptic (don't like that word either). >> Everyone is unique and original, do not dismiss it as a failing or as a >> fault. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >charecter assessment), all these things might not be me at all, but a >standard set of personal charecteristics for an epileptic. Whoever said they were standard? There are countless ways of putting neurones together. We are all different and my point is that epilepsy is only one way in which we differ. The coping mechanisms which we develop as people with epilepsy will often lead to similarities in some areas and *some* people, but they certainly don't have to obscure the skills and strengths of the individual. The fact that I am introverted and that you mention that you're extroverted proves that people with epilepsy differ between themselves. I'll never know what parts of my character are genetically inherited and what parts are caused by the faulty wiring whether it's genetic or a sub-symptom. You like the 'unique and original' parts of your character, and are proud of them. Great! Whether they're caused by epilepsy or inherited does not matter. Maybe what I'm trying to do is knock the idea that epilepsy is a condition in its own right. The condition is the middleman between many different neuronic configurations and the various externally experienced seizures. If this is the case, then (especially for those with idiopathic epilepsy) we should accept epilepsy as an *integrated* part of our character, as much part of you as your artistic talents and ability to read people. Its roots reach deep into other areas but, as the difference between you and me proves, the circuitry for those roots can be very different. And what's wrong with that? SignatureMalcolm > >> Everyone is unique and original, do not dismiss it as a failing or as a > >> fault. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > the difference between you and me proves, the circuitry for those roots > can be very different. And what's wrong with that? Howdy Dona! If you'll pardon my using personal hackneyed expression: Everybody is different! I would consider it to be a horrable affront for somebody to say: "You have epilepsy therefore you have these characteristics." If you will pardon an extreme oversimplification... you seem to be talking about "what" makes us different. I think that Malcom and I are attempting to delve into the "how" and "why"? I know exactly what I'm trying to say here but I'm not sure whether I'm saying it very well... does that make any sense to you? SignatureDave ???? "Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus" "Ego sum quis ego sum quod ut est quicumque ego sum" http://www.howdydave.com Yeah, that's kind of depressing in one way, although you could also say it's the silver lining... > I've always felt "different" too. > > Actually this entire thread is bothering me. So how much of what I've always > thought was unique and original about me is just because of the epilepsy? > I've always felt "different" too. > > Actually this entire thread is bothering me. So how much of what I've always > thought was unique and original about me is just because of the epilepsy? Sadly, yes. But there are fewer of us than there are of other people - i.e. without epilepsy - so we're different from most people ;-) Mary > >> >That is... if you are a dyed in the wool, hell bent for leather, > >> >gotta' know for sure, scientific mindset sort of a person who over- [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > !!! I AM THE ONE !!!! I'm another. Mary > Extract from recent post by yours truly on another site, demonstrating > the obsessive analytical level at which some people's minds function: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > I keep telling you - TLE has more interictal effects than ictal ones, > but nobody believes me :((((( |
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