Hello all,
I was hoping that some of you might shed some light on some questions
that I have.
First - a bit of background. My husband was diagnosed with epilepsy
3.5 years ago. Prior to that he had several "fainting" incidents over
10 years that were never properly diagnosed (even by docs at Stanford
and Mass General). He was finally diagnosed after pulling to the side
of the road after feeling light headed - a grand mal followed and he
was taken to the ER by ambulance. I was pregant with triplets and we
were building a house at the time (I had to giggle at a thread on this
board about "triggers"...I'd say that my dh had several at the time!).
An MRI showed a lesion on the left temporal lobe. He was first tried
on Tegretol (not well tolerated), then Dilantin (around 500 mg). He
had auras about every 30 days - and prevented grand mals with Ativan
after any aura (which typically knocked him out). After the triplets
were born (talk about sleep deprivation!) and the house project turned
into a complete nightmare - his seizures increased to the point that
he had two grand mals in a row one morning last May (without warning,
which he typically had gotten in the past). We promptly put the new
house on the market to reduce our stress. Turned out his Dilatin
level was low (less than 10) - so it was upped to 600 mg. After
selling the house and he stopped working, he was seizure free (and not
many auras) for 1 week shy of 6 months in Nov. (the magic "go back to
driving/work") when he had the flu/missed meds for 12 hrs./little
sleep/no breakfast/morning at the dentist, and he had another grand
mal. He then had a few auras in Feb.
We went to a new doctor last month at a major med. center (here in the
Bay Area) who says that my dh should have been put on a new medication
(as a primary or secondary) a year ago when it was clear that Dilatin
wasn't doing the job. The new doc is also pro-surgery. From what
I've read, surgery can have very good outcomes..but naturally we are a
bit concerned about it. He'll be having video monitoring (forced
seizure) in about a month to see if he's a good candidate. In the
meantime, the new doc started him on Keppra (low dose) in addition to
560 of Dilatin (his blood level is now 18). The last month has not
been good as my dh sleeps about 3 hours every afternoon and he is
angry all the time. He finally called the doc yesterday who said to
stop the Keppra (thank goodness!). My dh hasn't worked or driven
since last July - which is beginning to be a issue.
So....the questions are:
1) what other drug should he try in addition to Dilatin? (I know the
chances of another drug working is only about 10%)
2) is surgery a good road to follow?
3) how do you find the best neurosurgeon for this type of surgery?
(the options for us in the area are: UCSF, CPMC, or Stanford).
Thanks so much for your sage advice....I have found that peer advice
can be the best - I did it for fertility and look what happened! Now,
we just need to address my dh's epilepsy with the same fervor and
hopeful outcome.
Deb
g-mal - 25 Apr 2004 19:17 GMT
> Hello all,
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> Deb
>1.there are many drugs a person can take,but it really depends on
where in the brain the "fits" are located...personally I take,DILANTIN
& CARBAMAZEPINE.
>2.Some will say it's a good idea,but I belive it is a personal
choice...because
I have seen the after affects ......they were turned into vegtables,
so personally... NEVER.
>STILL LOOKING....SORRY
<G-MAL>
Pablo - 26 Apr 2004 08:14 GMT
> Hello all,
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> Deb
g'day deb,
1) there literally dozens of AEDs (anti-epileptic drugs) on the market so i
wouldn't just pin my hopes on one because it's not beyond the realms of
possibility that one or even a combination could work. dilantin one of the
oldest AEDs on the market and is usually the first to be prescribed because
there is so much research information about it and it's properties are so
well documented. some of the newer drugs work quite well and i have had good
success with a combination of tegretol and lamictal.
2) personally i would make surgery the absolute last option unless the
seizures were uncontrollable with medication. i myself have scarring of the
right temporal lobe and as previously mentioned have had success with
medication. if i were your husband i would work with the neurologist to try
and find a medical solution before embarking on surgery. surgery i believe
has been successful in some cases but it depends on the area of the brain
which is infected and what that area controls. some of those on this group
who have had surgery have reported the need to use AEDs even after surgery
so it may not be a total cure.
being from australia i am not able to comment on question three but i wish
your husband and yourself luck whichever option you decide on.
pablo
Liz & Allan MacDonald - 27 Apr 2004 18:10 GMT
"DebinCA" <DebSPR@aol.com> wrote in message
>2) is surgery a good road to follow?
Deb, Surgery was a good road for me to follow. In July I will have been
seizure-free for five years. I had what turned out to be a benign tumor
removed from my right temporal lobe at Mass. General.
Deciding to investigate surgery is the first step on a long path. At
the end of it you(plural) and your doctors will have enough information
to decide whether surgery is even a option. If it is, _then_ you make
the decision. But, having the testing does not commit your husband to
having the surgery done if he turns out to be a candidate.
I'm happy to answer any questions you have. Email works.
Liz
Pablo - 27 Apr 2004 21:00 GMT
g'day liz,
when i was speaking about surgery i meant removal of a part of the brain.
the type of surgery you had, removing a tumour or growth, i would definitely
contemplate but removing a part of my brain i would definitely have to think
twice about. i should have been more clear on that point.
pablo
> "DebinCA" <DebSPR@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I'm happy to answer any questions you have. Email works.
> Liz
turbinado - 28 Apr 2004 22:23 GMT
My doctor suggested surgery as a possible option, but there is no way I
would take that risk unless I was getting seizures every day, or if there
was a tumor or something.
> g'day liz,
> when i was speaking about surgery i meant removal of a part of the brain.
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> > I'm happy to answer any questions you have. Email works.
> > Liz
Liz & Allan MacDonald - 29 Apr 2004 01:00 GMT
Hi Pablo,
They took the tumor and some of the brain surrounding it. I was lucky
in that it was located where they didn't have to go excavating for it.
Liz
> g'day liz,
> when i was speaking about surgery i meant removal of a part of the brain.
> the type of surgery you had, removing a tumour or growth, i would definitely
> contemplate but removing a part of my brain i would definitely have to think
> twice about. i should have been more clear on that point.
> pablo
CyberCafe - 27 Apr 2004 07:29 GMT
> Hello all,
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> of the road after feeling light headed - a grand mal followed and he
> was taken to the ER by ambulance.
Well, besides the fact that there are lots of reasons for fainting (my
sister used to faint in church at least once a month without cause), they
have to have some kind of proof (like test results) or a very strong
belief based on symptoms or other factors that seizures are occurring.
Maybe at the time your hubby was having fainting spells there really
wasn't anything else to lead the doctors to suspect epilepsy. Gee, I
don't think it would be a good idea to prescribe brain altering drugs if
you aren't sure.
> I was pregant with triplets and we
> were building a house at the time (I had to giggle at a thread on this
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> sleep/no breakfast/morning at the dentist, and he had another grand
> mal. He then had a few auras in Feb.
I can see why he would have had a seizure in November. If I get sick and
run a prolonged elevated temperature, I will generally get seizure
symptoms. The flu hasn't done it to me yet, it's generally more serious
things I've had like having an abscess in the bone under a tooth or deep
vein thrombosis. They have also told me that I can up my Dilantin level
slightly during illness if I feel it is necessary. Some people also need
to split their dose for better control. During illness, they also advised
I could split my doses to even out the blood levels more. I take 700 mg
Dilantin daily when everything is normal. Maybe it would be a good idea
for your husband to log on a calendar the types of events associated with
his seizures. A calendar was the only way I discovered that certain
things, like medical problems and monthly hormone fluctuations (which
wouldn't apply to a man, of course), were not being tolerated by my brain.
The last time I was at the epilepsy center, they told me that it is really
important to maintain a steady blood level with Dilantin. You know,
Dilantin has a long half life, but apparently blood levels have to be
consistent with this drug or you can have problems.
> We went to a new doctor last month at a major med. center (here in the
> Bay Area) who says that my dh should have been put on a new medication
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> 1) what other drug should he try in addition to Dilatin? (I know the
> chances of another drug working is only about 10%)
No one here is going to be able to tell you what drug a person SHOULD
try. That's up to the doctor. The good thing is there are a lot of
medication choices.
> 2) is surgery a good road to follow?
You probably should get a second or even third opinion on that. If you
have health insurance, the company will probably require another opinion
anyway before approving surgery.
> 3) how do you find the best neurosurgeon for this type of surgery?
> (the options for us in the area are: UCSF, CPMC, or Stanford).
Ask the doctor for several suggestions and his/her opinion on the
surgeon(s) and facility. You have to have a referral anyway to see a
surgeon for this kind of stuff. Your insurance company might have a say
in which facility or surgeon you wish to use. Probably should check with
them and also check to see if they will cover everything.
Barb
> Thanks so much for your sage advice....I have found that peer advice
> can be the best - I did it for fertility and look what happened! Now,
> we just need to address my dh's epilepsy with the same fervor and
> hopeful outcome.
>
> Deb
g-mal - 27 Apr 2004 21:22 GMT
> > Hello all,
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> > Deb
oop's...srry
g-mal
Michael - 29 Apr 2004 02:38 GMT
Hi Deb
Sounds like your husband has (is diagnosed with) partial seizures
that secondarily generalize( spread to become grand mal seizures).
Dilantin and Tegretol are two of the 2 frontline drugs that have been
used for many years for this seizure type.
As others have posted, there are many newer AEDs available that have
proven effective. Lamictal, Topamax, Zonegran, Carbatrol, Trileptal
(and yes..Keppra) just to mention some. Each has its benefits and each has
side effects, so the best one should be determined by your neurologist,
based
on many factors.
Suregery is a viable option for some people and has been very successful for
many
people. I have 6 clients who have had a temporal lobectomy and have been
seizure
free as a result.As you probably know, they have a very strict evaluation
process to
determine if someone is a candidate. EEG video telemetry is the first part
of the evaluation process. The process also involes a neuropsychological
evaluation, WADA Test,
(and sometimes a Phase II evaluation). If everything is a go, then the
surgery. All of the
clients had their surgery on a Tuesday morning and went home the following
Thursday or Friday.
Hope this helps! Good luck to both of you.
Regards
Michael
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