What your wife witnessed
might have also been a milder seizure (not a loss of consciousness, but at
least a loss of awareness).  His Doctor should be told about those.   I was
going to wonder at first if there might be something (odours, solvents) in
the school area that might complicate his seizure onset, but since he's
having them in other places and in the bath, there may be more than one type
of trigger, or his type might not have a trigger.
   In the meantime TOO,  he shouldn't swim or bathe on his own.  If we have
a szr. in water, if it's deep enough, we can drop below the surface and
Inhale the water, more dangerous than even just losing awareness
temporarily.
   Wish I could be more helpful, but the Dr. should do some more tests and
possible start *some type of medication (I don't know what that would be for
a child, but if he's in traffic etc. after school or on way there, it's
better if he's controlled than not (medication-wise).

   Keep us posted.    (If you can find one of Julie's posts from a while
ago, she puts the Idaho Website at end of them. If not, write to me and I'll
look up a 'form letter'  I composed last year that lists about 5
websites --efa.org,  howdy dave's, Julie's main site and the First aid for
seizures charts (on land and water now) has an **Excellent description of
the outward symptoms and inward feelings (auras) of each of the main types
of seizures.)
    Julie or Dave might **also know if there's a Parent's Support Group (in
addition to This one),  where you can exchange information with other adults
too.
   If you can't find one of Julie's posts or with google, write me.   Try
Google on Idaho and Epilepsy Support or I can look up the correct address
for you.
  Howdy Dave has frequent posts on the group, and from **his site you can
get to Ep. Foundation of America main site, and others he's found in his
travels.  He may have a link to Julie's Idaho Website as well.  Both those
should be on Bookmarks on your system.  If anything is prescribed the efa
dot org site has a Med. Glossary that's worth marking too, in addition to
what the Pharmacist should give you anywary.       G.R.

G'day jason
loss of bladder control is not uncommon for someone having a seizure.
unfortunately i nearly always lose bladder control no matter how slight the
seizure. i would be asking your doctor for a referral to a neurologist if i
were you because you will find it more comforting if you speak to someone
who specialises in this type of condition. i would also start a diary and
record any activity which you believe may pertain to the boys problem. also
if you think of anything you may want to ask the specialist or even your
doctor you forget them when your appointment comes around.
pablo

I hope you are aware that there is a potentially dangerous situation
here.  Bathtubs, hot water, and seizures while bathing are a bad mix.

If they haven't already done so, they will run an EEG and probably an
MRI.  If the tests come back normal, that is par for the course.  The EEG
is kind of tricky because the patient has to be experiencing abnormal
brain waves at the time the test is done or the test returns as normal.
Abnormal brain waves may not be a constant thing but only occur in the
time frame near the seizure(s).

Wetting himself could be seizure related, however, you say this is
happening when he seems to be alert and active.  When one of my kids, a
girl, was about the same age as your boy, she also started having
accidents.  It turned out she had a urinary infection.  She ended up in
the hospital deathly sick because the infection spread.

Barb