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Compex Partial-which drugs?

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fwb - 16 Jul 2003 23:22 GMT
Hi there folks,
I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
'controlled' by drugs.  It would be amazing to find a high percentage who
were controlled on the same combination.
My son is on 1500mg Epilim Chrono and 400mg of Lamictal a day and he is not
controlled.  He has been through the hospitalisation/video/eeg/spec scan/mri
scan etc.etc. and they decided he is not operable.  His seizures are problem
enough but, it is the 'after' bit that is the biggest problem.  During these
3-8 minutes he can do all sorts of pretty crazy things, including crazy
noises, blowing raspberries,yelps and yells followed by, at the moment, kung
fu!  Fine for us, his parents, but supposing this happened in a city,
amongst the wrong ppl.  They could kill him.....thinking they were being
threatened.  I am getting no support whatsoever from his consultant.  He was
in hospital Jan. '02 and again April '02 for video assessment.  In April he
did have a seizure (thanks to me)...it was August '02 before we got a letter
saying he was inoperable and since then we have heard nothing. No
appointment for the clinic, no suggestions about changing
drugs.......nothing, simply 'written off', or so it seems to me.  So I am
asking any of you, who had the same effects, to tell me what you are on now,
that helped the situation and then I will ask the doctor, or consultant if
we might try 'whatever'.
thanking you, in great anticipation....
Fiona
p.s. Gaross...did you get my e mail and photo?
Bob - 17 Jul 2003 04:40 GMT
> Hi there folks,
> I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
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> Fiona
> p.s. Gaross...did you get my e mail and photo?

Hi Fiona

You talked about inoperable, but didn't mention if he had a tumor. Does he?

I tried lamictal and it was quite promising & effective except that I started to
get the rash and they had to stop it right away.

I've had both Complex Partials & Simple Parials and, in retropect, this has been
going on all my life although it only came back again with a vengeance in the
past several years after being gone for quite a few years. Mri's, CT-Scans are
clean as are normal EEG's, but overnite EEG's & sleep-deprived ones in the
hospital show problems in the temporal lobes.

At the moment, I am being controlled by phenobarbital & neurontin, which don't
stop me from feeling miserable & depressed a large amount of the time, but have
held the seizures mainly in check.

Bob
fwb - 18 Jul 2003 20:18 GMT
Hi Bob,
Thanks for the reply.  No brain tumour with Simon.  Like Gaross, it was
encephalitis.........the day after his first birthday.  He is 30 next month.
(I remember writing to you just before you were going in for your video/eeg
session.......at least, I am fairly sure it was you).
May I ask how old you are Bob?  May I ask if you work?
Fiona

> > Hi there folks,
> > I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
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>
> Bob
Bob - 19 Jul 2003 02:02 GMT
> Hi Bob,
> Thanks for the reply.  No brain tumour with Simon.  Like Gaross, it was
> encephalitis.........the day after his first birthday.  He is 30 next month.
> (I remember writing to you just before you were going in for your video/eeg
> session.......at least, I am fairly sure it was you).

Could have been me.  :-)  and I had meningitis when I was a kid, but maybe I was
born this way. I just don't remember my previous years with any clarity.

> May I ask how old you are Bob?

Doesn't hurt to ask and I am a Bob Hope 39 years old. :-)

> May I ask if you work?

Why would you ask?

> Fiona

Bob

> > > Hi there folks,
> > > I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
[quoted text clipped - 58 lines]
> >
> > Bob
fwb - 21 Jul 2003 23:48 GMT
Hi Bob,
The reason I asked your age, and if you worked, was simply because I guess I
would like to find someone round about S's age and with the same sort of
situation.  I keep trying to get him to get involved directly with the group
but for some reason or other he wont.....maybe one day.  Now, if I could
just find him a nice compassionate female friend, preferably with epilepsy
(as she would understand), then, I am sure he would change his mind!! :)
Thanks again.........
Fiona

> > Hi Bob,
> > Thanks for the reply.  No brain tumour with Simon.  Like Gaross, it was
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> > >
> > > Bob
Bob - 22 Jul 2003 03:52 GMT
> Hi Bob,
> The reason I asked your age, and if you worked, was simply because I guess I
> would like to find someone round about S's age and with the same sort of
> situation.

Hi Fiona

I can recall turning 30 as the most age-traumatic of any of them and wouldn't
care to go through that again. Sorry, but I'm not a good fit there. (Sorry but
that word fits there - ooops I did it again<g>).

> I keep trying to get him to get involved directly with the group
> but for some reason or other he wont.....maybe one day.  Now, if I could
> just find him a nice compassionate female friend, preferably with epilepsy
> (as she would understand), then, I am sure he would change his mind!! :)

That may be what he needs although I can't use the words here. :-)

> Thanks again.........
> Fiona

Anytime!

Bob

> > > Hi Bob,
> > > Thanks for the reply.  No brain tumour with Simon.  Like Gaross, it was
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> > > >
> > > > Bob
Pablo - 17 Jul 2003 08:07 GMT
g'day fiona,
i am pretty well controlled, i might have 1 or 2 auras a month but haven't
had a CP for 18 months or so now. at the moment i take 1600mg tegretol and
400mg lamictal daily. previously i was on 1600mg tegretol and 400mg topamax
and i had no auras at all, unfortunately topamax didn't agree with me.
similar combinations of medication may work for some people but we're all
different so our needs are too. i hope you find the right combo for your
son.
pablo

> Hi there folks,
> I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Fiona
> p.s. Gaross...did you get my e mail and photo?
fwb - 18 Jul 2003 20:23 GMT
Thanks Pablo,
Simon has no aura nowadays, which compounds the problem.  It did help when
he used to have them........time to clear a space etc. etc.  I am sure if I
just keep reading this group I will keep learning.
Fiona

> g'day fiona,
> i am pretty well controlled, i might have 1 or 2 auras a month but haven't
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> > Fiona
> > p.s. Gaross...did you get my e mail and photo?
CyberCafe - 17 Jul 2003 16:26 GMT
> Hi there folks,
> I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> we might try 'whatever'.
> thanking you, in great anticipation....

Have complex partial seizures.  Have used Tegretol and Dilantin, both with good
results.  Was removed from Tegretol because of an overwhelming rash, but the
stuff worked great.

Barb

> Fiona
> p.s. Gaross...did you get my e mail and photo?
fwb - 18 Jul 2003 20:33 GMT
Hi Barb,
Simon was on Tegretol when he was very young,  then he was taken off it and
eventually back on it, but he had an adverse reaction.  So Tegretol is a no
go area for S.
His hands are very shaky on his combination and he is pretty groggy. We
always know if he has forgotten his pills as we then experience what we call
'the real Simon' i.e. bright, alert and very with it.  Sad state of affairs
aint it?
Fiona

> > Hi there folks,
> > I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> > Fiona
> > p.s. Gaross...did you get my e mail and photo?
M - 19 Jul 2003 08:23 GMT
>Hi there folks,
>I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
>'controlled' by drugs.  It would be amazing to find a high percentage who
>were controlled on the same combination.

Tegretol 800 mg, Clobazam 40 mg.  Major side effects = fatigue, memory.

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fwb - 22 Jul 2003 00:55 GMT
Hi Malcolm,
Now I am not epileptic and the only drug I am on is hydroxychloroquine for
my rheumatoid arthritis but my memory is awful......look above....I answered
Pablo twice!
Thanks for the information.
Fiona
----- Original Message -----
From: M
Newsgroups: alt.support.epilepsy
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: Compex Partial-which drugs?

fwb <fwb@ntlworld.com> wrote
>Hi there folks,
>I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
>'controlled' by drugs.  It would be amazing to find a high percentage who
>were controlled on the same combination.

Tegretol 800 mg, Clobazam 40 mg.  Major side effects = fatigue, memory.

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Malcolm

> >Hi there folks,
> >I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
> >'controlled' by drugs.  It would be amazing to find a high percentage who
> >were controlled on the same combination.
>
> Tegretol 800 mg, Clobazam 40 mg.  Major side effects = fatigue, memory.
turbinado - 20 Jul 2003 00:42 GMT
I have been on Tegretol 400x2 for about a year, haven't had a seizure since
I started (knock wood!). I was getting complex partials, absences and grand
mals.

> Hi there folks,
> I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Fiona
> p.s. Gaross...did you get my e mail and photo?
fwb - 22 Jul 2003 00:20 GMT
thank you too, and I will keep my fingers crossed for you.
Fiona

> I have been on Tegretol 400x2 for about a year, haven't had a seizure since
> I started (knock wood!). I was getting complex partials, absences and grand
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> > Fiona
> > p.s. Gaross...did you get my e mail and photo?
Chris Lesurf - 20 Jul 2003 13:37 GMT
My epilepsy has never been completely controlled but I have not had a
grand mal for a few years.
I had fewer partial ones when I was on phenobarbitone 30yrs ago but was
virtually asleep for 5yrs.
Then phenytoin was horrible and other things were tried but I only
remember carbamazepine (Tegretol).

I volunteered to be a guinea pig for amotrigine before it was marketed as
lamictal and have been on it ever since. I reduced the dose from
400mgm/day to 300mgm/day because on the higher dose I bruised very easily
and even when most of the bruise had gone a permanent pattern of blood
vessels tended to stay.

Once when I was in hospital for a time 10mgm/day clobazam (Frisium) was
prescribed. I'm not sure whether that was before benzodiazepines were
found to be addictive but the doctors foolishly allowed me to stay on the
dose continuously rather than on the 2 weeks on 2 weeks off basis they've
dveloped for PMT. I say 'foolishly' because I get very ill if I try to
come off the clobazam but I don't think it has a positive effect.

I also have what I call automatic phases after my actual fits. I used to
just try to go home and/or to bed but now I sometimes dance or . . I'll
have to ak my husband because I never remember what I've done.
Fortunately, I must be aware at the time because I have not had accidents
crossing roads or whatever.

I'm now asking if carbamazepine can be added because I've just been
diagnosed with manic depression and it is prescribed for that (and so is
lamotrigine).

Chris L.

> Hi there folks,
> I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
> 'controlled' by drugs.  It would be amazing to find a high percentage who
> were controlled on the same combination.
Cheryl DeVoll - 21 Jul 2003 03:19 GMT
> Hi there folks,
> I would be extremely interested to hear from all CP epileptics who are
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> scan etc.etc. and they decided he is not operable.  His seizures are problem
> enough but, it is the 'after' bit that is the biggest problem.  During these
.....................
> thanking you, in great anticipation....
> Fiona

Fiona,

Depakote as monotherapy worked well for me in the past but was too toxic for
me. Now I take Lamictal and a chaser of Neurontin.  Sorry to know that your
son is having such a hard time. Kids are so brave.

Cheryl
 
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