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Dave ???? - 12 Nov 2003 04:57 GMT
(Sorry folks! I just transplanted this from "Physics puzzles" because it
warrents a thread of its own.)

Howdy Malcom!

I know that they wouldn't want any of our organs for transplant because they
are so poluted with medications.

BODY DONOR is not one of the standard MedicAlert options. I went to my
Epilepsy clinic (which is in a hospital affiliated with a medical school)
and they were thrilled to death when I told them that I wanted to be a
donor.

Now I carry a little yellow card in my wallet that lets everybody know that
I have bequeatherd my body after death to the Anatomical Gift Program.
Contact the University of Rochester Medical School.  If I die away from
home, contact the nearest Medical School.

The deal is off if I have an autopsy.

If I change my mind, all I have to do is throw away my yellow card and who's
to know?

Sure beats the sh.t out of paying for a funeral!

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Dave ????
"Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus"

http://www.howdydave.com

"M" <webmaster@need.to.remain.anon> wrote in message
news:Cc$oAJAKnTs$Ew0f@mtdomain.demon.co.uk...

> Mary Fisher <mary.b.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> wrote
> >
> >"Dave ????" <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote in message
> >news:IfUrb.14413$8O1.2667@news02.roc.ny...
> >> Howdy Mary!
> >>
> >> re:  I asked Spouse what he'd like to wear to be buried in.
> >>
> >> I'm a body donor. They will probably be
> >> disecting me in anatomy 101 (or something of the sort) at a medical
school
> >> for 2 or 3 years.
> >
> >So am I. But they probably won't want me now.
>
> It makes sense for everyone on this NG with Ep to be a body donor
> because the more they can find out about our particular brains the
> better. Actually, with my memory problems, the more things *I* could
> find about my brain the better it would be for me - I forgot my bank PIN
> the other day and I've been using it since Cashpoints first came out in
> the Seventies!
>
> My MedicAlert contains the addendum: "All organs available for
> transplant or, if found unsuitable, for research."
>
> I doubt anything could be used for donation because they won't even take
> my blood anymore. But surely there's a place on the Net where I could
> sell other parts - (vgc, good handling, low mileage, one careful owner).
>
> Or maybe I should add an extra "or, if found unsuitable, for McDonalds."
> at the end?
Klenow - 12 Nov 2003 05:47 GMT
Hmmm....I've seen those medical students, physiotherapists etc. doing
dissections during their anatomy classes and it turned me right off donating
my body to a medical school.  A little too much laughing and joking around
for my tastes.  To me, donating organs for transplant or even medical
research is much more useful.

> (Sorry folks! I just transplanted this from "Physics puzzles" because it
> warrents a thread of its own.)
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> > Or maybe I should add an extra "or, if found unsuitable, for McDonalds."
> > at the end?
Seamus - 12 Nov 2003 11:51 GMT
You both should read Stiff, a very interesting book about options for
donating your body and what it can be used for. Oddly enough, it's kind of a
funny read...
-Joanna

> Hmmm....I've seen those medical students, physiotherapists etc. doing
> dissections during their anatomy classes and it turned me right off donating
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> > > --
> > > Malcolm
Situation_Toasted - 12 Nov 2003 14:13 GMT
Let them laugh & joke as they cut your dead body open. Maybe one of them
might learn something from it that will one day save a relatives life.

> Hmmm....I've seen those medical students, physiotherapists etc. doing
> dissections during their anatomy classes and it turned me right off donating
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> > > Or maybe I should add an extra "or, if found unsuitable, for McDonalds."
> > > at the end?
Dave ???? - 12 Nov 2003 17:06 GMT
Howdy!

Only problem is...

Without body donors for medical school, they won't be able to get their
degree. Without their degree they can't do their research!

Besides... The medical school that I'm donating myself to is famous for it's
Neurology Dept. I will probably end up in the Neurology Dept. as an example
of what epilepsy, the Vagus Nerve Stimulator and multiple strokes do to the
body.

I suppose that if the body had special medical problems it will end up in
the research dept. After all... most of the research IS done at the medical
schools.

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Dave ????
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http://www.howdydave.com

> Hmmm....I've seen those medical students, physiotherapists etc. doing
> dissections during their anatomy classes and it turned me right off donating
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> > > Or maybe I should add an extra "or, if found unsuitable, for McDonalds."
> > > at the end?
Mary Fisher - 06 Dec 2003 12:20 GMT
> Hmmm....I've seen those medical students, physiotherapists etc. doing
> dissections during their anatomy classes and it turned me right off donating
> my body to a medical school.  A little too much laughing and joking around
> for my tastes.

I don't think you should read any more of these posts if you don't like
lightheartedness ...

To me, donating organs for transplant or even medical
> research is much more useful.

If they go for medical research they might still cause laughter.

Depends what bit they're researching I suppose ...

Mary
Dave ???? - 07 Dec 2003 03:11 GMT
Howdy Mary!

Right on babe!

If you are taking meds for your epilepsy they probably won't take organs for
transplant because they're saturated with medications.

In my case, I'm fairly sure that my body will end up in the neurology lab.
Strokes, epilepsy, VNS implant, the whole 9 yards.

Once I'm on the slab I don't think that ANYTHING that they do or say will
offend me very much!

BTW:  Anybody know where that phrase "the whole 9 yards" comes from?

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http://www.howdydave.com

> > Hmmm....I've seen those medical students, physiotherapists etc. doing
> > dissections during their anatomy classes and it turned me right off
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>
> Mary
Klenow - 07 Dec 2003 05:22 GMT
Well a while ago we approached our brain bank in Toronto in order to get
brain tissue from deceased epileptics to examine anatomical changes in the
hippocampus.  It's very difficult to get living and preserved brain tissue
from epileptics for research purposes because it's somewhat rare and thus
valuable.  We're still hoping to get some actual living hippocampal tissue
in the future.  On the other hand the medical students seem to have plenty
of bodies to dissect.  Just because a body is donated to a medical school
doesn't mean it's going to be used for medical research at all.

> Howdy Mary!
>
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> >
> > Mary
Mary Fisher - 07 Dec 2003 12:04 GMT
> Howdy Mary!
>
> Right on babe!
>
> If you are taking meds for your epilepsy they probably won't take organs for
> transplant because they're saturated with medications.

Did I say that?

> In my case, I'm fairly sure that my body will end up in the neurology lab.
> Strokes, epilepsy, VNS implant, the whole 9 yards.
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>
> BTW:  Anybody know where that phrase "the whole 9 yards" comes from?

I've never heard of it!

Mary

> > > Hmmm....I've seen those medical students, physiotherapists etc. doing
> > > dissections during their anatomy classes and it turned me right off
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> >
> > Mary
M - 12 Nov 2003 20:35 GMT
Dave ©¿©¬ <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote
>Howdy Malcom!
>
>I know that they wouldn't want any of our organs for transplant because they
>are so poluted with medications.

Yes. Perhaps we'd be better of in a local high temp incinerator designed
to destroy all dioxins and free radicals.

>BODY DONOR is not one of the standard MedicAlert options.

Well it's sitting here on my card right in front of me, so it must be a
mighty big misprint.

"On MAOI, call for details" is probably not a standard Medicalert option
but it's there as well (just in case they decide to wake me up with a
nice Marmite and Cheese sandwich).

> I went to my
>Epilepsy clinic (which is in a hospital affiliated with a medical school)
>and they were thrilled to death when I told them that I wanted to be a
>donor.

Did you give them an expected date of availability?

>Now I carry a little yellow card in my wallet that lets everybody know that
>I have bequeatherd my body after death to the Anatomical Gift Program.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>If I change my mind, all I have to do is throw away my yellow card and who's
>to know?

Well, you've just published it on the Net, so by now I suppose everyone
who has access to Usenet or a search engine :)

>Sure beats the sh.t out of paying for a funeral!

I'm not paying for my funeral anyway.

And from later on in the thread, I (or rather we, because we had four
students to every corpse) had to dissect a human body and it didn't seem
a humorous event, only fascinating and educative. There was humour
afterwards, but the main thing was how long it took, and how many times
we had to wheel the bodies in and out of the morgue every day for well
over a week. Also all organs removed had to be stored for replacement
back in the body when we had finished completely.... no selling them off
on the cheap to the local swap-shop.
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Dave ???? - 13 Nov 2003 04:35 GMT
Howdy Malcom!

> >BODY DONOR is not one of the standard MedicAlert options.
>
> Well it's sitting here on my card right in front of me, so it must be a
> mighty big misprint.

I said "STANDARD OPTIONS".. there is no check box on the initial application
form for "body donor" you have to specify it yourself.

Vagus Nerve Stimulator is not a standard option either, but it's on my
bracelet.

I've got so much wrong with me that they decided to put "Call Immediately"
on mine just so that folks know all 743 (give or take) different meds that
I'm taking and a full list of my doctors (I've listed 7 doctors and the
pharmacy.)

> "On MAOI, call for details" is probably not a standard Medicalert option
> but it's there as well (just in case they decide to wake me up with a
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>
> Did you give them an expected date of availability?

You disappointed me here M... I thought that you would jump all over my
"thrilled to death" crack!

> >Now I carry a little yellow card in my wallet that lets everybody know that
> >I have bequeatherd my body after death to the Anatomical Gift Program.
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>
> I'm not paying for my funeral anyway.

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Dave ????
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http://www.howdydave.com

turbinado - 17 Nov 2003 03:59 GMT
Just curious Dave - why is the deal off if they do an autopsy?

> (Sorry folks! I just transplanted this from "Physics puzzles" because it
> warrents a thread of its own.)
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>
> Sure beats the sh.t out of paying for a funeral!
Dave ???? - 18 Nov 2003 18:21 GMT
Howdy!

I can't say for sure but I would imagine that it's because they cut and poke
around inside such a fashion as to be detrimental to performing a good
disection.

Could be because they take chunks out of the organs for analysis, who knows?
If they give me an autopsy I guess disposal of my body will be the
responsibility of the coroners office.

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Dave ????
"Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus"

http://www.howdydave.com

> Just curious Dave - why is the deal off if they do an autopsy?
>
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> >
> > Sure beats the sh.t out of paying for a funeral!
M - 18 Nov 2003 20:27 GMT
Dave ©¿©¬ <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote
>Howdy!
>
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>If they give me an autopsy I guess disposal of my body will be the
>responsibility of the coroners office.

With such a high price being charged by pharmaceutical firms for meds,
would it be possible to sell my body for medication extraction and
recycling?

Who knows where some of these generic meds come from? My last lot of
Teggies came from Greece as all the packet was in Greek. A long way to
supply West Sussex - no wonder the pharmacist took one look at the
script and said "We won't be able to do these for you today, you know" !

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Mary Fisher - 18 Nov 2003 23:06 GMT
> Who knows where some of these generic meds come from? My last lot of
> Teggies came from Greece as all the packet was in Greek. A long way to
> supply West Sussex - no wonder the pharmacist took one look at the
> script and said "We won't be able to do these for you today, you know" !

Well, that's got me wondering. My friend who lives in Herstmonceux spends
quite a lot of time in Greece every year and always claims that she comes
beck better off than when she went ...

Mary
 
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