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ironjustice - 06 Jun 2008 16:35 GMT New Fat-based Anti-wrinkle Lotion Slows Down Aging of Skin, Study Shows ScienceDaily (Jun. 6, 2008) — Topical applications of a naturally occurring fat molecule have the potential to slow down skin aging, whether through natural causes or damage, researchers report.
Through both the normal aging process and external factors like UV damage, smooth, young skin inevitably becomes coarse and wrinkled. The basis of this wrinkling is that time and damage both lower the production of new collagen while increasing the levels of enzymes called MMPs that chew up existing collagen.
Covering up, slowing down, or even stopping the wrinkling process has become a big business, and as part of this research endeavor, Jin Ho Chung and colleagues tested seven naturally occurring lipids (greasy molecules that play many important biological roles) in their ability to reduce skin aging.
In samples of skin cells, three of the lipids could prevent UV- radiation from both reducing collagen expression and increasing the levels of MMPs; they even increased collagen in undamaged skin cells. Of these three, the molecule phosphatidylserine (PS) seemed the most promising, so the researchers tested it on human skin.
They applied a 2% PS solution to small areas of the buttock in both young and old volunteers; the young skin was subsequently given a dose of UV-radiation to simulate sun damage. In both natural and UV-induced aging, PS treatment prevented collagen reduction and an increase in MMPs when compared to no treatment.
While larger and longer trials are needed to confirm any therapeutic benefits, these initial findings suggest topical PA application might be a simple and natural way to slow down the biological elements underlying wrinkling.
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"Phosphatidylserine from soy lecithin contains mainly polyunsatured fatty acids, while phosphatidylserine derived from bovine brain contains mainly saturated and monounsaturated fatty acids, as well as some docosahexaenoic acid." ------------------------------------- Journal of Lipid Research, Vol. 49, 1235-1245, June 2008 Copyright © 2008 by American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology
Phosphatidylserine prevents UV-induced decrease of type I procollagen and increase of MMP-1 in dermal fibroblasts and human skin in vivo Soyun Cho*,,,**, Hyeon Ho Kim*,,, Min Jung Lee*,,, Serah Lee*,,, Chang- Seo Park, Sang-June Nam, Jeong-Jun Han, Jin-Wook Kim and Jin Ho Chung1,*,,
* Department of Dermatology, Seoul National University College of Medicine, Seoul, Korea Laboratory of Cutaneous Aging Research, Clinical Research Institute, Seoul National University Hospital, Seoul, Korea Institute of Dermatological Science, Seoul, Korea ** Boramae Hospital, Seoul National University, Seoul, Korea Department of Chemical and Biochemical Engineering, Dongguk University, Seoul, Korea Doosan Biotech Division, Gyeonggido, Korea
This work was supported in part by Grant A040008 from the Korea Health 21 R & D Project, Ministry of Health and Welfare, Republic of Korea.
Published, JLR Papers in Press, March 12, 2008.
1 To whom correspondence should be addressed. e-mail: jhchung@snu.ac.kr
In an effort to find topical agents that prevent or retard cutaneous aging, seven functional lipids were screened for their procollagen- upregulating and matrix metalloproteinase (MMP)-1-downregulating activities in human dermal fibroblasts by Western blotting. The preventive effect on ultraviolet (UV)-induced decrease of procollagen was demonstrated in phosphatidylserine (PS), lysophosphatidylserine (LPS), lysophosphatidic acid (LPA), N-acetyl phytosphingosine (NAPS), and tetraacetyl phytosphingosine (TAPS). Furthermore, PS, LPS, and LPA upregulated procollagen expression in unirradiated basal conditions. The inhibitory effect on UV-induced MMP-1 expression was seen in NAPS, TAPS, LPA, PS, lysophosphatidylglycerol, and LPS. PS was chosen as the most suitable candidate anti-aging chemical for the subsequent in vivo studies. We investigated the effects of PS on acute UV response and chronologic skin aging by topically applying it to young skin before UV irradiation and to aged human skin, respectively. Real-time PCR and Western blot revealed that in the young skin, PS treatment prevented UV-induced reduction in procollagen expression and inhibited UV- induced MMP-1 expression. PS also blocked UV-induced IL-6 and COX-2 gene expression in cultured fibroblasts dose-dependently. In the aged skin, PS caused increased procollagen transcription and procollagen immunostaining in the upper dermis, and a significant decrease in MMP-1 expression at both mRNA and protein levels. These results indicate that topical PS has anti-skin-aging properties and point to the potential use of PS as a therapeutic agent in the prevention and treatment of cutaneous aging.
Supplementary key words ultraviolet • intrinsic aging • photoaging • matrix metalloproteinase-1
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ironjustice - 06 Jun 2008 18:29 GMT On Jun 6, 8:35 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:Phosphatidylserine from soy lecithin <<
Myy lathering lecithin logic is gathering steam since showing lowering of cholesterol by the topical application of soybean lecithin.
Ageing skin AND cholesterol .. lowering ..
Match .. it ..
I wonder what percentage phosphatidylserine there IS in regular old soybean lecithin .. ?
What drugs will this lowering of cholesterol replace .. ?
What type of drugs will be replaced .. ?
By using a topically applied vegetable oil .. ?
Sounds good to me.
Lecithin lathered liberally.
You may get some on your hands.
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> New Fat-based Anti-wrinkle Lotion Slows Down Aging of Skin, Study > Shows [quoted text clipped - 103 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk RF - 06 Jun 2008 22:08 GMT > On Jun 6, 8:35 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> > wrote:Phosphatidylserine from soy lecithin << [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > By using a topically applied vegetable oil .. ? OK, Thomas, are you trying to tell me that my wrinkles will disappear if I paint my face with canola oil, or, or?
If so, don't tell anyone and we'll patent the idea ;-)
> Sounds good to me. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Who loves ya. > Tom ironjustice@aol.com - 07 Jun 2008 04:06 GMT On Jun 6, 2:08 pm, RF <R...@NoDen.con> wrote:OK, Thomas, are you trying to tell me that my wrinkles will disappear if I paint my face with canola oil, or, or? <<
I said this quite a few years ago. Someone said I had better watch giving out medical advice.
Rubbing vegetable oil over your body is medical advice.
I suppose it is the 'intent to treat' part .. ?
I proposed Pam the spray on cooking spray (lecithin) would theoretically make a good anti-inflammatory
http://tinyurl.com/4ugp5
It seems this stuff is pretty good. I still never got an opinion to the big difference between Pam and this stuff.
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> > On Jun 6, 8:35 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> > > wrote:Phosphatidylserine from soy lecithin << [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > - Show quoted text - ironjustice@aol.com - 07 Jun 2008 04:25 GMT On Jun 6, 8:06 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: I still never got an opinion to the big difference between Pam and this stuff. <<
"Clear improvement within the first 30 minutes"
http://www.myomed.com/cfa.php
Cetylated Fatty Acids (Cetyl Myristoleate)
Cetylated Fatty Acids (CFAs) are naturally occurring compounds that have been esterified to make them resistant to bonding with oxygen. These oils have been shown to reduce inflammation and pain without side effects. In multiple tests performed at universities studying CFAs, participants showed significant increases in mobility and decreases in pain and inflammation. These results are generally attributed to CFAs ability to reinforce and lubricate cell membranes. In fact CFAs show cumulative therapeutic affects over time. In a double blind study at the University of Connecticut, all of the osteoarthritic participants using CFAs showed clear improvement within the first 30 minutes following treatment. After 30 days of continued treatments, participants showed even greater cumulative effects in reduced pain, range of motion, stair climbing, and getting up and going forward from a chair. CFAs are one of the key components that allow Myo-Med users to return to active living.
------------------------------- These cetylated fatty acids are different from fish oil fatty acids. Are they the same as the fatty acids found in plants? ------------------------------- http://www.thirdage.com/ebsco/files/104660.html
"The fatty acids in fish oil are rather different from those in cetylated fatty acids"
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> On Jun 6, 2:08 pm, RF <R...@NoDen.con> wrote:OK, Thomas, are you > trying to tell me that my wrinkles will disappear if I paint my face [quoted text clipped - 157 lines] > > - Show quoted text - ironjustice@aol.com - 07 Jun 2008 04:35 GMT On Jun 6, 8:25 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 6, 8:06 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: I still never got an opinion to the big difference between Pam and this stuff. <<
Seee .. Who to .. believe .. ?
They are both talking about the same fatty acids except different sites.
"The cream contains cetylated fatty acid, such as those in fish oils" "The fatty acids in fish oil are rather different from those in cetylated fatty acids" http://www.knee1.com/news/mainstory.cfm/246 http://www.thirdage.com/ebsco/files/104660.html
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> "Clear improvement within the first 30 minutes" > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Are they the same as the fatty acids found in plants? > ------------------------------- http://www.thirdage.com/ebsco/files/104660.html
> "The fatty acids in fish oil are rather different from those in > cetylated fatty acids" [quoted text clipped - 171 lines] > > - Show quoted text - RF - 07 Jun 2008 18:23 GMT > On Jun 6, 8:25 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: >> On Jun 6, 8:06 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: > I still never got an opinion to the big difference between Pam and > this stuff. << Thomas, you have really snowed me under.
If I have the gist of things, applying lecithin or veggie oil to your face removes or reduces wrinkles. How young does one have to be for this to work? Some years ago I read a letter to the editor of a newspaper from a young woman swearing that applying egg yolk to her face a few times/day banished her acne. Maybe lecithin at work?
http://tinyurl.com/4ugp5 leads to: http://www.biospace.com/news_story.cfm?StoryID=15637320&full=1
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Biospace.com has recently cleaned some of our website URL's, the page you are requesting may exist under a different location. If you have this page bookmarked, you may wish to update it." --------------------------- This started off with vegetable oil. If you apply oil, say canola, to your skin (notice not MY skin here <-- would be medical advice ;-) ) the lecithin in the oil would reduce the wrinkles? Are wrinkles manifestations of an inflammation?
I have seen soy lecithin in stores and I believe it was dry granules. Is it made into a paste for application? I believe it has low solubility in water - maybe in canola or olive oil?
Presumably Celadrin has the active ingredients much more concentrated than in the veggie oils or is it more for joints or bruised flesh than the skin?
> Seee .. > Who to .. believe .. ? [quoted text clipped - 186 lines] >>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - ironjustice - 08 Jun 2008 03:33 GMT On Jun 7, 10:23 am, RF <R...@NoDen.con> wrote: How young does one have to be for this to work?<<
"In the aged skin"
It didn't say ..
On Jun 7, 10:23 am, RF <R...@NoDen.con> wrote: Are wrinkles manifestations of an inflammation? <<
I think it is lack of collagen ..
"PS caused increased procollagen transcription and procollagen immunostaining in the upper dermis"
On Jun 7, 10:23 am, RF <R...@NoDen.con> wrote: I have seen soy lecithin in stores and I believe it was dry granules. Is it made into a paste for application? I believe it has low solubility in water - maybe in canola or olive oil? <<
Lecithin comes in a liquid in bottles and is very inexpensive It does mix well with other vegetable oils.
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> ironjust...@aol.com wrote: > > On Jun 6, 8:25 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 213 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Marshall Price - 08 Jun 2008 16:11 GMT > On Jun 7, 10:23 am, RF <R...@NoDen.con> wrote: How young does one have > to be for this to work?<< [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >> application? I believe it has low solubility in >> water - maybe in canola or olive oil? It's widely available in granules, which is the best way to buy it.
When it looks like an oil, it's just lecithin mixed into an oil -- which may or may not be healthy, and certainly isn't what you're paying for.
But I used to get it in a sort of powder (in large cardboard cans) consisting of tiny fluffy masses. It was very nice because it melted in my mouth and tasted great. But it didn't last long once the container was open. It absorbed moisture, I think, and it may have oxidized or something, and it gradually settled in the can and thickened. I miss it.
I used to imagine it improved my sex life, but hey, it's all in the mind, right? And the mind needs plenty of lecithin. ;-)
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RF - 08 Jun 2008 22:49 GMT >> On Jun 7, 10:23 am, RF <R...@NoDen.con> wrote: How young does one have >> to be for this to work?<< [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > It's widely available in granules, which is the best way to buy it. Should be the cheapest way too.
> When it looks like an oil, it's just lecithin mixed into an oil -- > which may or may not be healthy, and certainly isn't what you're paying > for. Yup, when you buy your own oil, you usually know what you are getting.
> But I used to get it in a sort of powder (in large cardboard cans) > consisting of tiny fluffy masses. It was very nice because it melted in > my mouth and tasted great. But it didn't last long once the container > was open. It absorbed moisture, I think, and it may have oxidized or > something, and it gradually settled in the can and thickened. I miss it. Possibly the lid of the can was not tight enough or the moisture penetrated the cardboard as it aged. An airtight glass jar - like salsa comes in - would keep the moisture initially but as the level goes down more air and moisture would enter. Small airtight jars would probably be best. On the other hand maybe it decomposed anyway, regardeless of the air and moisture. I have had those soy granules in plastic bags for a month or more with no noticeable change.
> I used to imagine it improved my sex life, but hey, it's all in the > mind, right? And the mind needs plenty of lecithin. ;-) Right! When your mind wants sex, it starts to work on your imagination :-)
RF - 11 Jun 2008 22:43 GMT >> On Jun 7, 10:23 am, RF <R...@NoDen.con> wrote: How young does one have >> to be for this to work?<< [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > I used to imagine it improved my sex life, but hey, it's all in the > mind, right? And the mind needs plenty of lecithin. ;-) Hi Marshall,
I was in a health food store today looking at lecithin. It was packed in cardboard containers, plastic ones and finally a glass jar. It was the latter that had an interesting message about the keeping qualities of the powder. It indicated that, for durability, the container to use was an amber (or presumably a darker color) glass bottle with a metal lid. Plastic was a no no.
Try it again and who knows what it will do with yourlove life. ;-)
RF - 08 Jun 2008 17:40 GMT > On Jun 7, 10:23 am, RF <R...@NoDen.con> wrote: How young does one have > to be for this to work?<< [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Who loves ya. > Tom Thanks Tom.
I'll give it a whirl and will let you know if it dissolves my face ;-)
Marshall Price - 08 Jun 2008 16:00 GMT >> On Jun 6, 8:25 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: >>> On Jun 6, 8:06 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > that applying egg yolk to her face a few times/day > banished her acne. Maybe lecithin at work? People have been putting avocado on their faces for a long time. It's got a lot of lecithin in it, and vitamin E, and probably alpha- or beta-hydroxy acids, not to mention fatty acids and vitamin C.
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Marshall Price - 08 Jun 2008 15:56 GMT > On Jun 6, 8:25 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: >> On Jun 6, 8:06 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 191 lines] >>> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - It says here (Merck Index 13, #7064) that cetylic acid is a synonym for palmitic acid!
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DrollTroll - 08 Jun 2008 23:34 GMT >> On Jun 6, 8:25 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: >>> On Jun 6, 8:06 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 196 lines] > It says here (Merck Index 13, #7064) that cetylic acid is a synonym for > palmitic acid! Which means that a fatty acid + palmitic acid cannot yield an ester, as mentioned above. Forgot what you get when you combine two carboxyls, but it's not an ester. And it's not a typical biochemical reaction, possibly exceedingly rare.
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Taka - 07 Jun 2008 08:47 GMT On Jun 7, 12:25 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jun 6, 8:06 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: > I still never got an opinion to the big difference between Pam and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Cetylated Fatty Acids (CFAs) are naturally occurring compounds that > have been esterified to make them resistant to bonding with oxygen. Same as saturated fat. It is also resistant to "bonding with oxygen" which we normally call oxidation ...
> These oils have been shown to reduce inflammation and pain without > side effects. Well I guess they block the AA metabolizing enzymes like COX-2 and 5- LOX. There is no need for this with Mead acid in the body but for most normal people the blunting of AA responses is helpful. Given their resistance to oxidation they seem like a much better alternative to the Omega-3 PUFAs. Remember my past post on the castrol oil, it seemed doing the same ...
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> CFAs, participants showed significant increases in mobility and > decreases in pain and inflammation. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk RF - 07 Jun 2008 17:19 GMT > On Jun 7, 12:25 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: >> On Jun 6, 8:06 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > to the Omega-3 PUFAs. Remember my past post on the castrol oil, it > seemed doing the same ... Castrol is a company that markets motor oil!!! You mean castor oil?
> Taka > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> >> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk RF - 07 Jun 2008 17:33 GMT > On Jun 7, 12:25 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: >> On Jun 6, 8:06 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >> >> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk So far this thread has not lived up the expectation expressed by the title: Topical Oil and Wrinkly Skin.
G. - 07 Jun 2008 14:55 GMT Why can't you post below singly onto the 1 or 2 groups where it might be of interest instead of running these 5-group Crossposts like below? I put the 5 groups it's crossposted onto at end. The replies that show up here have *nothing to do with living with seizures, and just clutter up whatever someone might have questions on wrt. seizures and medications.
And Body Oil is not Medications for treating seizures. G./
Jun 6 post to this Thread is posted to these groups (Below) and someone clicking on "Reply to Group" who doesn't notice their address is about to go onto 4 **Unrelated groups, they aren't subscribed onto, turn up **HERE even tho' they're not subscribed here. It was that kind of Noise that was part of the collapse of the International posters to this site, after they got tired culling out the chaff to get to messages of use to them. -->
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New Fat-based Anti-wrinkle Lotion Slows Down Aging of Skin, Study Shows ScienceDaily (Jun. 6, 2008) — Topical applications of a naturally occurring fat molecule have the potential to slow down skin aging, whether through natural causes or damage, researchers report.
Through both the normal aging process and external factors like UV damage, smooth, young skin inevitably becomes coarse and wrinkled. The basis of this wrinkling is that time and damage both lower the production of new collagen while increasing the levels of enzymes called MMPs that chew up existing collagen.
Covering up, slowing down, or even stopping the wrinkling process has become a big business, and as part of this research endeavor, Jin Ho Chung and colleagues tested seven naturally occurring lipids (greasy molecules that play many important biological roles) in their ability to reduce skin aging. /////////// Cut stuff not related to seizures or epilepsy. //////
Marshall Price - 08 Jun 2008 15:47 GMT > New Fat-based Anti-wrinkle Lotion Slows Down Aging of Skin, Study > Shows [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Incidentally, Carl C. Pfeiffer told me personally that the lecithin from egg yolks was healthier than that from soybeans, and that it was available from Borden's, the makers of Egg Beaters. That was in the mid-1970s, and I never followed through on it, so I don't know whether they sell it nowadays.
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RF - 08 Jun 2008 23:00 GMT >> New Fat-based Anti-wrinkle Lotion Slows Down Aging of Skin, Study >> Shows [quoted text clipped - 113 lines] > mid-1970s, and I never followed through on it, so I don't know whether > they sell it nowadays. I understand that the soy granules are derived from the beans by some process using petroleum products.
I'd prefer it from eggs but I'd want it from organic free range eggs. The pesticides, herbicides etc might be worse than traces of the petroleum product. It seems that we very often have to walk fine lines nowadays.
I just looked through SR-20 for egg yolks but they don't identify any lecithin. There's loads of fatty acids listed though.
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