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Warning to Those with Photosensitive Epilepsy
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8ufcm248uf4@mailinator.com - 30 Mar 2008 23:13 GMT Greetings, fellow Netizens. I write to you anonymously, but not as a participant (they don't really have members) of the group called "Anonymous" that has been getting so much media attention lately.
For those of you who don't know, "Anonymous" is the personified website-raiding culture of English-language imageboards such as 4chan, 7chan, 420chan, and 711chan. Often mistaken for hacking, the Anonymous "raids" generally involve getting together a large group of people and trashing a target website. This can involve spamming, trolling, posting shock images, and denial of service attacks. One of their most famous raids, other than the admittedly deserved DDOS attack on Scientology, was the series of attacks on Habbo Hotel, an online children's game. Attackers created black people with afros as characters, which they refered to as "nigras," and proceeded to block other characters' movements, spam, and arrange groups of characters into swastikas. The reason behind these attacks is pure entertainment, or as they say, "teh lulz."
Recently, Anonymous began its most disturbing raid yet: Invaders went en masse to the webforums of the Epilepsy Foundation and posted seizure-inducing flashing images. You can read Wired.com's account of the story here:
http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/03/epilepsy
Or you can look at the website they use for planning raids, the /i/ (invasions) board of 420chan. It's hosted on not420chan.com since the company hosting 420chan wouldn't host it, but they did allow the website authors to link there from the 420chan.org main page.
http://www.not420chan.com/i/ (Warning: Their background is set to shock images to scare away unwanted visitors. There's also the possibility they would set it to flashing images. If you go there, you should turn images and other media off.)
You can find info about these raids on 4chan or 7chan also if you lurk long enough, but since threads there don't stay on the site for more than about an hour, they have to go elsewhere for planning purposes.
As can be seen by browsing the above forums, members of Anonymous are upset that their perception as good guys due to the Scientology (wordfiltered to "Enkindlers" on the not420chan.com website) attacks is encouraging legitimate activists to join their group. They were pleased that this raid upset those activists, and this has encouraged many of them to go for a second attempt. This may be on the same or different forum.
Long story short, photosensitive epileptics should be especially careful about the websites they visit. The risk for a second, or even a third raid is high.
And to the anti-Scientology activists and Usenet readers in general: Be careful who you associate with. The /i/ board has been banned from site after site due to its illegal nature. Someday not420chan.com will be shut down, and Anonymous will be looking for a new home. Don't let it be here.
-- Sincerely, Anonymous
Out_Of_The_Dark - 30 Mar 2008 23:32 GMT On Mar 30, 6:13 pm, 8ufcm248...@mailinator.com wrote:
> Greetings, fellow Netizens. I write to you anonymously, but not as a > participant (they don't really have members) of the group called [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > Sincerely, > Anonymous What a bunch of distracting and false information you've posted there. So filled with PROPAGANDA!
What better target for the CoS to 'hit and blame on Anonymous' than a group that helps people with Epilepsy, a disease which Scientology refuses it's epileptic members to receive appropriate medical care for the treatment of. Anyone who did this could not possibly be an anonymous of the anti- scientology collective called Anonymous. Scientology has the ability, the means, the mind and the incentive of doing such terrible stuff and blaming it on "Anonymous" but thatnkfully the law does not buy into propaganda, innuendo andd flat out lies like what you have written.
Tory /Magoo Bezazian Christman just happens to have left the cult in large part because she was in need of care for her untreated Epilepsy and and she was ordered by the church to not take the medications usually prescribed for it! That she's alive and well is not the case for others in the cult who suffer from untreated medical problems.
Blaming Anonymous for illegal things is the strategy employed by the cult of Scientology. This is part of the church's Fair Game tactics
Fair Game (Scientology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe term Fair Game is used to describe various aggressive policies and practices carried out by the Church of Scientology towards people and groups it ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology)
Scientology controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. (Redirected from Noah Lottick) .... Main article: Fair Game (Scientology). Hubbard detailed his rules for attacking ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Lottick
YouTube - Scientology Fair Gaming exposed by AnonymousThe church of Scientology is now using Fair Game as a WEAPON against protesters, ... sources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Game_(Scientology) ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTdYcWWf8gs
8ufcm248uf4@mailinator.com - 31 Mar 2008 02:28 GMT > What a bunch of distracting and false information you've posted there. > So filled with PROPAGANDA! Huh, I know that when you were in Scientology they discouraged you from reading and watching real news, but you should really take that up now. Start with:
http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=FC71070B87DD9532861A47 D49B659448?contentId=3894628&version=7&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1 &sflg=1
It's sensationalized for consumption by American viewers, but it's fairly accurate, other than the claim the sites depicted are "secret websites." They blur out URLs, but you can tell by the format that they are looking at *chan imageboards. Also, "We do not forgive, we do not forget" kind of gives it away.
And then this:
http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=4D800A279B3CEAD006A31E 0876588922?contentId=5647826&version=4&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1 &sflg=1
In case you don't know, the slashes around the "b" in "/b/rothas" is a reference to the URL of the popular "Random" boards on 4chan and the other *chans. And here Fox didn't do such a good job of hiding the websites it was reporting on:
http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=7chanbz2.jpg
And they haven't even mentioned the lolicon (look it up now if you don't know what it means), which 7chan and 711chan have whole boards devoted to. 4chan also had a lolicon board, but they had to delete it. Or Mitchell Henderson (Google it), the 13-year old boy whose family Anonymous harassed after he committed suicide.
Anonymous's reputation for harassing people is such that people come to 4chan all the time posting the personal information of ex- girlfriends or other people they hate, only to be told that Anonymous is "not their personal army." This stuff is the rule, not the exception. The DDOS attacks on a deserving target, Scientology, were the exception.
Most importantly, if you haven't been there before, you should look at:
http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html (Warning: Not safe for British school kids, or for anyone, for that matter)
The content of the above link IS Anonymous. Well, that and the content of the other *chans. If this website disgusts you, Anonymous disgusts you.
Opti - 31 Mar 2008 02:37 GMT On 30 mar, 19:28, 8ufcm248...@mailinator.com wrote:
> > What a bunch of distracting and false information you've posted there. > > So filled with PROPAGANDA! [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > content of the other *chans. If this website disgusts you, Anonymous > disgusts you. i liek it
dharmasatya@gmail.com - 31 Mar 2008 03:46 GMT On Mar 30, 9:28 pm, 8ufcm248...@mailinator.com wrote:
> > What a bunch of distracting and false information you've posted there. > > So filled with PROPAGANDA! [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > content of the other *chans. If this website disgusts you, Anonymous > disgusts you. *You* disgust me. What do you suggest I do about that?
t_shuffle - 31 Mar 2008 04:28 GMT > On Mar 30, 9:28 pm, 8ufcm248...@mailinator.com wrote: >> On Mar 30, 6:32 pm, Out_Of_The_Dark [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > *You* disgust me. What do you suggest I do about that? Thing is, everything he says is true.
Opti - 31 Mar 2008 04:47 GMT From 7chan:
ATTENTION: Newcomers from Wired, Digg, Engadget, Slashdot, etc. by OverlordXenu - 3/29/08 @ 7:46PM PDT#
Hello, and welcome to our treehouse.
I would just like to discuss this nasty business about a terrible raid on a forum for the poor people who suffer from epilepsy. What happened there was terrible, and we feel deeply sorry for those affected.
Users of this site did not actually attack those individuals. The Church of Scientology posted numerous threads across many *chan sites, and then informed people that Anonymous had been attacking victims of epilepsy. They did this under their "fair game" policy, to ruin the public opinion of Anonymous, to lessen the effect of their lawful protests against their virulent organization.
I must say, it is disgusting that the CoS is willing to drag innocent people down with them, in an attempt to save themselves. How could anyone be a willing participant in their terrible organization?
Sadly, none of our staff were online at the time of the thread's posting, so we were unable to take it down.
We are truly and deeply sorry for what happened to these innocent people, Thank you for your time spent reading this apology, The Administration and Staff of 7chan.org
Feel free to email us at the above address or address us on our IRC server, and we will be happy to address any of your concerns regarding this terrible incident.
Fredric L. Rice - 30 Mar 2008 19:18 GMT >ATTENTION: Newcomers from Wired, Digg, Engadget, Slashdot, etc. by >OverlordXenu - 3/29/08 @ 7:46PM PDT# [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >public opinion of Anonymous, to lessen the effect of their lawful >protests against their virulent organization. Nobody believes this catshit. Chanology is a splinter faction and the core channers haven't changed their spots just because Chanology Anonymous are well respected around the world. Anonymous channers most certainly did it, not Scientology.
And in fact no Scientology crime boss is smart enough to think of something like this.
--- Anonymous = Herd of Cats Latched on to the Same Wildebeest "Operation Freakout 2.0 is failing miserably for the cult." - Anonymous
t_shuffle - 31 Mar 2008 06:59 GMT >>ATTENTION: Newcomers from Wired, Digg, Engadget, >>Slashdot, etc. by OverlordXenu - 3/29/08 @ 7:46PM PDT# [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > "Operation Freakout 2.0 is failing miserably for the > cult." - Anonymous What he said.
Psyborgue - 31 Mar 2008 08:38 GMT On Mar 31, 3:28 am, 8ufcm248...@mailinator.com wrote:
> > What a bunch of distracting and false information you've posted there. > > So filled with PROPAGANDA! [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > content of the other *chans. If this website disgusts you, Anonymous > disgusts you. My crystal ball is showing a V& in your future. The mods report CP to the FBI you know.
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed. - 30 Mar 2008 23:45 GMT On 31 Mrz., 00:13, 8ufcm248...@mailinator.com wrote:
> Greetings, fellow Netizens. I write to you anonymously, but not as a > participant (they don't really have members) of the group called [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > into swastikas. The reason behind these attacks is pure > entertainment, or as they say, "teh lulz." When did this happen? Was it after the raid against scientology?
> Recently, Anonymous began its most disturbing raid yet: Invaders went > en masse to the webforums of the Epilepsy Foundation and posted > seizure-inducing flashing images. You can read Wired.com's account of > the story here: > > http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2008/03/epilepsy Okay, that was recently, as you said, I suppose after "scilon"- attacks. Am I right?
I am asking, because that sounds as if somebody would try to discredit Anonymous, therefore infiltrade them or try to ruin any reputation, if there is one or if there is an attempt to build one.
As a non-violent and lawful hacker and member of Anonymous I personally would inform the FBI or police or the proper authorities about those raids and would support however I could an investigation of this incidents.
There are organizations, which are not Anonymous-friendly, but have both the knowledge and the personel to do, what you said do, or did, members of Anonymous.
Or did you post just for teh lulz? Or for creating fear of Anonymous, so that people stay away from them as to becoming critics of scientology? Or what?
.Lily.
> Or you can look at the website they use for planning raids, the /i/ > (invasions) board of 420chan. It's hosted on not420chan.com since the [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > Sincerely, > Anonymous anothersurfer999@hotmail.com - 31 Mar 2008 06:00 GMT > As a non-violent and lawful hacker and member of Anonymous I > personally would inform the FBI or police or the proper authorities > about those raids and would support however I could an investigation > of this incidents. Lily, are you claiming to be a "lawful hacker and member of Anonymous?"
Wow!
What published books by critics of scientology would you recommend? What websites critical of scientology do you visit and which would you recommend (other than this newsgroup)?
And is there such a thing as a "lawful hacker?" Based on your previous posts which show a lack of knowledge regarding teh intertubes and technology, I do find this a bit hard to believe.
Did you attend the protests near where you lived?
Anyway, I do agree that hacking an internet support website for epileptics to display graphics that would cause epileptic seizures is truly NOT funny. I would not support such actions, either.
Another Surfer
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed. - 31 Mar 2008 07:58 GMT On 31 Mrz., 00:45, "The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed." <LilyFire...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 31 Mrz., 00:13, 8ufcm248...@mailinator.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > about those raids and would support however I could an investigation > of this incidents. More specific:
"As" here should not stand for the meaning of "I actually am a member of .... and _as_ such I say this and that.."
but:
"Would I be a member of ... I would do ...."
I thought the "I would" makes this sense clear to everybody, but obviously not. Although I would probably not even see problems of being a member of a group of non-violent, lawful hackers, but nonetheless, I am not. I do not know enough about that issue, technics and that spirit of them and so. So I do not feel as one of them, and they would not even want me I guess.
But this is mostly for our scientologist word-in-the-mouth-manglerers of ars who are always so eager to find something to make the true critic wrong and accuse him of being lawless or a lover of the lawless, no matter that they themselves are lawless, since they ignore the public law inside themselves as something under which they do not have to bend insidely, only superficially to avoid legal troubles which would cost them money.
.Lily.
> There are organizations, which are not Anonymous-friendly, but have > both the knowledge and the personel to do, what you said do, or did, [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Sincerely, > > Anonymous hy3n4generator@gmail.com - 13 Apr 2008 19:14 GMT On Mar 30, 6:45 pm, "The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed." <LilyFire...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 31 Mrz., 00:13, 8ufcm248...@mailinator.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 84 lines] > > Sincerely, > > Anonymous Saying 'teh lulz' does not make you anon. Pretending to be a hacker does not make you anon. Calling the party van does not make you anon.
Anonymous would like to distance itself from the statements of this person. They're obviously enemy psyops.
jeffrey.latham@gmail.com - 30 Mar 2008 23:46 GMT There's a lot of confusion about the nature of Anonymous, because Anonymous is a unique social phenomenon. There are, in truth, no so- called "members" of Anonymous, because Anonymous isn't an organization or group. It's a collective of individuals, and these individuals do more or less what they want. Anonymous often bands together for a common purpose - sometimes honorable, sometimes dishonorable - but even in doing so, the individual remains his own master. Anonymous is chaotic neutral, with no shared concept of "right" or "wrong".
Attacking "Anonymous" as if it were a group - and thus innately responsible for the actions of its members - is folly.
The Impossible to handle .Lily FireRed. - 31 Mar 2008 00:14 GMT On 31 Mrz., 00:46, jeffrey.lat...@gmail.com wrote:
> There's a lot of confusion about the nature of Anonymous, because > Anonymous is a unique social phenomenon. There are, in truth, no so- [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Attacking "Anonymous" as if it were a group - and thus innately > responsible for the actions of its members - is folly. okay, thx (both)
.Lily.
Hartley Patterson - 31 Mar 2008 03:35 GMT 8ufcm248uf4@mailinator.com:
> Greetings, fellow Netizens. I write to you anonymously, but not as a > participant (they don't really have members) of the group called [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > website-raiding culture of English-language imageboards such as 4chan, > 7chan, 420chan, and 711chan. It was, until January 2008. A regular Anonymous 'raid' on Church of Scientology websites has become a much larger movement that though still using the 'Anonymous' label has little connection with the *chans. The 'new' Anonymous is focused on opposing a nasty cult and uses other discussion forums. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_%28group%29
The Church of Scientology tells members that epilepsy is psychosomatic in origin and encourages them to throw away their meds.
 Signature alt.religion.scientology FAQ Please read before posting http://www.daisy.freeserve.co.uk/faq.htm
G. - 31 Mar 2008 16:25 GMT Alt.ep members--> I cut out the other 4 groups mailinator (student) did to 4 groups where all last night's replies came from. Reason I said to not do Reply to Group, like the other 15 posters did. If you respond to a Phisher and don't notice he's crossposted to 5 or more unrelated groups (to our's), your reply and email gets spread to other sites where it can be harvested by what's left of the spam mavins. G.
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Greetings, fellow Netizens. I write to you anonymously, but not as a participant (they don't really have members) of the group called "Anonymous" that has been getting so much media attention lately. //
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davidkudmip@gmail.com - 01 Apr 2008 13:23 GMT Scientology is against its members taking medication to stop them from getting seizures, for example, Tory "Magoo" Christman - http://www.entheta.net/archive/personal_story/tory/affidavit.html
Jocelyn Dorfmann died from an epileptic seizure in Scientology care in France - http://www.whyaretheydead.net/others/Jocelyne_Dorfmann_34.html
Heribert Pfaff died from an epileptic seizure in a Scientology hotel in Clearwater - http://www.whyaretheydead.net/room758.html
James Stewart committed suicide after CoS put in him in a Condition of Doubt for having epileptic seizures in public - http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/kult-epelep.htm
smith.jeff28@yahoo.com - 01 Apr 2008 16:13 GMT On Mar 30, 6:13 pm, 8ufcm248...@mailinator.com wrote:
> Greetings, fellow Netizens. I write to you anonymously, but not as a > participant (they don't really have members) of the group called [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > Sincerely, > Anonymous smith.jeff28@yahoo.com - 01 Apr 2008 16:14 GMT On Mar 30, 6:13 pm, 8ufcm248...@mailinator.com wrote:
> Greetings, fellow Netizens. I write to you anonymously, but not as a > participant (they don't really have members) of the group called [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > Sincerely, > Anonymous
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