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Cindi - HappyMamatoThree - 05 Sep 2007 09:34 GMT
Greetings! I haven't posted here before but I have been reading and catching
up and trying to clean what is relevant and I just wanted to ask a question
that is probably unique to me but it is worth a shot.

I have had a multitude of illnesses and wonder if this is common among those
dealing with epilepsy. A few of the high points of my medical history are

1. hereditary angioedema
2. a near fatal bout with necrotizing fasciitis and 17 abdominal surgeries
to try and reconstruct since.
3. diabetes
4. a total of 35 surgical procedures
5. fights with bradycardia that have landed me in ICU and one episode of
cardiac resuscitation)
6. asthma
7. TAH/BSO with bowel and bladder reconstruction due to damage from the NF
in 2
8. epilepsy with tonic clonics now on Dilantin (this was only diagnosed 3
weeks ago)
9. chronic and longstanding migraines
10. chronic allergic rhinitis with chonca bullosa and surgical correction

and the list goes on and on. There are about 37 diagnoses on my list, some
corrected with surgical intervention. I have had a total of 35 surgical
procedures. I had gastric bypass last year and that significantly help me
bring my health into better control, cut down my medication need, and
improve my mental status when it comes to my health. These other chronics
are just making me INSANE.

Now the question (and pardon me please if this has been asked and answered a
thousand and one times here); but do any of these diagnoses fish-tail into
the epilepsy development? Are there sometimes predisposing problems? Or is
epilepsy often just a random surprise sometimes? My EEG was today and my MRI
is in two weeks. I have another Dilantin level in the morning as it was not
therapeutic last week and I had a major grand mal on Sunday in the car.

I really am just learning to navigate this new world of epilepsy and if this
is total stupid please just tell me that.

Cindi
HappyMamaToThree
G. - 05 Sep 2007 15:36 GMT
Hi. I've included your olde post below (so I don't forget any
comments I might want to make).  There are still a few people reading
the group, so they mght reply over next day or 2 with specific
comments on some of the conditions you list that I don't have
experience with.
   I'll insert some comments at ***s below.    About JUN 14 I posted
here a Subject line of "Websites of use to newer people".   If you can
find that with your reader, or can google back to it, it lists about
12 websites that various people have posted or I found over last 8
years.

    *If you **can't find it, reply on this thread that you don't see
them and I can cut and paste it back as a New Post again.  (I usually
post it each 4-6 weeks anyway.)
 This group used to have about 30 posts per day, but was disrupted
about a year ago? by a 'student' spammer (who is probably offline
now,  someone reported him :-<   so I hope so).

     There were 2-3 people who had diabetes as well as seizures, but
I don't know how or if they relate to each other.  Perhaps Howdy Dave
or someone who has links to whether those relate are still reading
here and will respond.
    I'll put other comments for now below.   /G.  (note I'm not a Dr.
so comments are my own or what I picked up *here from other's
posts.)

On Sep 5, 4:34 am, "Cindi - HappyMamatoThree"
<lonnicusuoTAKEME...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Greetings! I haven't posted here before but I have been reading and catching
> up and trying to clean what is relevant and I just wanted to ask a question
> that is probably unique to me but it is worth a shot.
>
> I have had a multitude of illnesses and wonder if this is common among those
> dealing with epilepsy.
*** It's not uncommon for seizures to be produced by some condition
that pre-existed them and complicated things.  Often loss of oxygen to
the brain, head trauma or other events can bring it on.  (I had
encephalitis that damaged part of my Right Temporal Lobe in 1979, even
though szrs. didn't start- in that area- until 1993, for example.)
Others had Childhood onset or had children who were having some types
of szrs.

    There are about 5 types of szrs and often the medication will be
targeted for the area of the brain affected depending what turns up on
an EEG and MRI set of tests.    *Often Dilantin is prescribed first as
it has the least side effects, is one of the oldest seizure meds.
(about 1930?) and longest studied so that its success or not can be
tracked as you raise dose (if that's called for).   They will often
start a low dose and slowly up it if necessary, rather than start at
Target for your weight, metabolism and expected target as it's easier
to *rise toward your target dose than try later to move *Down to what
is your ideal dose. Also many Anti Ep Medications (AEDs) can produce
their Own side effects if set too high for our use.
   I was only able to use Dilantin for about a year, before we moved
on to another med. for better control of my type of szr. and a second
pill was added (reducing the first)  after about another year. Last
szr. I had was June 1998-- that only matters since the Neuro who did
my MRIs and EEGs suggested I might 'hope for'  2-3 seizure per month*
(in 1993) based on the Temporal Lobe damage I had from above
encephalitis.
  So there Can be Light at the end of the Tunnel, and it's not
necessarily an on-coming train !! :-<
  More below.   G./

A few of the high points of my medical history are
> 1. hereditary angioedema
> 2. a near fatal bout with necrotizing fasciitis and 17 abdominal surgeries
> to try and reconstruct since.
**** Did any of the szrs. start after any surgeries at 2?  Temporary
loss of Oxygen to the brain can be one potential source of eratic
electrical firing that can produce szrs.

> 3. diabetes
> 4. a total of 35 surgical procedures
> 5. fights with bradycardia that have landed me in ICU and one episode of
> cardiac resuscitation)

*** Similar to above, Dr. might? know if there were complications
during any of the surgeries that could raise potential of seizures.
****Some of us have either outgrown seizures, or achieved control --
sometimes that could be complicated (for you and the Drs.) if you are
taking medications for more than *1 med. condition, as some types can
interact or reduce effectiveness of another.  /

> 6. asthma
> 7. TAH/BSO with bowel and bladder reconstruction due to damage from the NF
> in 2
> 8. epilepsy with tonic clonics now on Dilantin (this was only diagnosed 3
> weeks ago)
**** Tonic Clonic I *think is an older term for what is now called
Grand Mal seizures?  Mine were at first called that, then mine were
called Complex Partial (formerly Temporal Lobe) seizures based on the
EEGs and MRIs that were done at that time.  When your results are in
they might know if there's only 1 place inside they happen and a Name
for the type you have.
   Ask the Dr. if that's the correct name and tell him you're doing
"Web Searches", as someone who wants more information on your own
condition and things you can do to **Complement the treatments they're
doing.   *He might have some websites or you might have a Local Ep.
Association who have a weblink you can use.   Many of these 'clubs'
will give you links without your needing (at first) to be a member to
participate.    I was a member of the Toronto Chapter for about 6+
years as they had a yearly 1-day convention with speakers, chat groups
and stuff for those of us who were members (in Toronto Canada at that
time there were more than 300 members).    During our Lives I've seen
2 statistics (different to just be irritating) of chances of someone
having seizures *at some time*-  either 1 person in 15, and (more
likely) 1 person in 30.  So there's a 4% chance at some point of
someone developing those.  /

> 9. chronic and longstanding migraines
****  I had those for about 3-5 years at onset, and they were likely
related to damage related to my type.  It might *not be unusual for
those to reduce or subside as you get closer to a target dose of a
med. that works. Those were Awful and I don't miss them at all!!  Mine
were also worse when Rain or Low Air pressure was approaching-- I now
use the weather channel to tell if a low air pressure zone is coming
and don't Miss that ability at all !!  :-<  /

> 10. chronic allergic rhinitis with chonca bullosa and surgical correction
>
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> improve my mental status when it comes to my health. These other chronics
> are just making me INSANE.
***  Naw, *we're the New Normal, it's the Others who haven't caught up
with us yet!   We're just Ahead of the Curve !!   As more and more
Baby Boomers age, they'll be coming to us for advice.

> Now the question (and pardon me please if this has been asked and answered a
> thousand and one times here); but do any of these diagnoses fish-tail into
> the epilepsy development? Are there sometimes predisposing problems? Or is
> epilepsy often just a random surprise sometimes? My EEG was today and my MRI
> is in two weeks. I have another Dilantin level in the morning as it was not
> therapeutic last week and I had a major grand mal on Sunday in the car.

*** Some Drs. might report that we have seizures (until they're
controlled) and we can lose our driving priviledges (insurance don't
cover diagnosed conditions unless they're controlled).  So if you're
driving you might want to either have someone along or not drive if
you're feeling under the weather --  as I got toward Target Dose my
feelings of Brain Fog and headaches cleared, so I could actually tell
when I **might be at risk of a szr.     Are Your's like That?  or do
you ever get any that show up without a feeling of discomfort, strange
taste or odours that arent't there (that's called an Aura on any sites
you look at).
   **If your's give you sufficient warning before onset then you're
closer to control (with Dilantin or med. conditions).   If they show
up quickly then they can be a risk for ourselves as we could be doing
something (cooking, operating a power saw, climbing a ladder, etc.)
that could put us at risk if they started quickly.

> I really am just learning to navigate this new world of epilepsy and if this
> is total stupid please just tell me that.
> Cindi
> HappyMamaToThree

  Nah,  I wouldn't tell you that...  Seeking information about a
condition that might turn out to be temporary (under 3 months) or your
New Normal, is not stupid--  quite the opposite.   We seem to do best
(here)  when we ask about things that bug us, we don't want to ask a
Doctor or where we want experiences of others.    Hopefully (hasn't
happened for 6 months though), some of the Regulars will show up and
see your post too.  We had people from UK, Europe, East Europe, New
Zealand and Australia, U.S. and Canada and South America posting here
and the range of experiences and Solutions or Workarounds was
stunning.  Hopefully some of the 'Stunned ones' come back.   But we
can do this here to start with.
   ****IF you don't see that post I mentioned, **shorten this and
Reply to Group here or start a thread about Any Websites about
Seizures or Epilepsy (I prefer 'seizures' as that's what's on my Medic
Alert Bracelet), and I'll pick it up and put it in this message thread
for you.

  (I'm in Eastern Timezone -- Toronto Canada, so times I might see
your reply will depend which timezone you're on (I forgot to look at
before I opened this reply), but I usually log on 3-5x a day, as I get
Grandson and Niecelet photos (children of Nieces) at random times
during some days), so I should get back to your post within about 12
hours of it.)

    Welcome to our neighbourhood.  Hopefully it will be a relatively
short visit til you get past these or get full control.  It's not
Leprosy or like becoming a Politician.   It is often Curable or at
least Controllable, and often nothing to be feared.     Cheers,   G./
Holly F. Sox, RN, RAC-CT - 06 Sep 2007 02:24 GMT
<Waving wildly>
Hi Cindi!!!!!!!!!

I've read G's outstanding (as usual) response below and don't have anything
to add. Just wanted to say Hi and glad to see your here!

We are continuing to deal here. Cody had 2 seizures over the weekend.
Nothing huge, but still enough to make me keep worrying.

See you around

Holly

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Robin Technologies

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> Greetings! I haven't posted here before but I have been reading and
> catching up and trying to clean what is relevant and I just wanted to ask
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> Cindi
> HappyMamaToThree
Sofia - 07 Sep 2007 23:56 GMT
> Greetings! I haven't posted here before but I have been reading and
> catching up and trying to clean what is relevant and I just wanted to
> ask a question that is probably unique to me but it is worth a shot.

Hi Cindi, welcome to the group, alway nice to meet a newbie!! That's an
awful collection of ailment's you have there!

> I have had a multitude of illnesses and wonder if this is common among
> those dealing with epilepsy. A few of the high points of my medical
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> 10. chronic allergic rhinitis with chonca bullosa and surgical
> correction

I'll do my best though...

I haven't a clue what a lot of them are I'm afraid, all I know is that I
have several types of epilepsy, I tend to lose my bladder a lot, I have
very bad headaches, allergic rhinitis which causes hubby to wear ear
plugs in bed because I remind him of a "sex-pervert breathing down the
phone".

I don't have any of the others though, but my mother has diabetes, and
my grandfather died of the condition, though I'm completely free of it
so I doubt there's any real connection. Some of the others have had
surgical procedures, though on their heads as a means of a cure I
think, I wouldn't know much about it, it sounds a little too
frightening, and I'm a little bit of a coward! :-)

Sofie  


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