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Humidity vs. Temperature effects on auras plus

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G. - 26 Jun 2007 16:12 GMT
Today we have a "Humidex weather forecast" (feeling on your skin) of
97F (36C), while the temperature in bright Sun is *only about 80F
(25C).

 Does anyone else notice that higher temperature or claustrophobic
feeling, produced by Humid Air (if you have it where you are), seems
to contribute to feeling of 'unease'  almost like the start of an
Aura ?
 While I know that risk (for me) of a szr. onset is now Low because
of pills I use and have balanced,  when the Thunderstorm finally
starts this PM and air cools, the sensations seem to improve.

 (I used to also get a severe headache Ahead of a storm as Low Air
Pressure zone moved in, but that seems to now be replaced (thankfully)
by a mild Brain Fog (someone once called it).   I think I prefer the
Fog versus the pain that air-pressure change once produced. )
  G./
Sofia - 27 Jun 2007 02:41 GMT
> Does anyone else notice that higher temperature or claustrophobic
> feeling, produced by Humid Air (if you have it where you are), seems
> to contribute to feeling of 'unease'  almost like the start of an
> Aura ?

I don't actually know what an aura feeling is like, but I can tell you I
had a feeling like this recently! It's been kind of pouring heavily
down with rain here in England recently, and we've had people killed in
floods nothing unusual about that, this is the UK. It's also June
though, so we've also had temperatures up to 24C not too high compared
to what you get in the Americas, but enough to cause a large amount of
humidity.

Anyway, my experience was bang in the middle of a one of those hot,
humid, sticky, nights where I just began to sweat like mad and I began
to lose all the water in my body over night my bed felt like I'd wet
it, so I got up to go to the bathroom, and collapsed to the floor. I
simply couldn't stand up, and still have the remains of the black eye
where I hit the floor!

My Graham heard the bang, thought I had a seizure and got up to help me
back into bed. He took one look at me and stated "Your eyes look
strange - a little like a mo---es  eyes", he was just trying to
describe to me what I looked like - then gave me a mirror, it was true!

I certainly couldn't sleep in a soiled bed, so Graham helped me walk
into the living room, sat me on the settee, and gave me six glasses of
water with a little salt in each, and also a mars bar to eat and have
my meds with as I was too bloated after the six glasses of water to eat
too much!

My eyes never actually changed shape again, and back to normal till the
day after, and hubby and me simply put it down to dehydration, but I'm
sure the weather also must have had a big part to play in my illness!

Sofie

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juhiggins - 27 Jun 2007 23:46 GMT
>  Today we have a "Humidex weather forecast" (feeling on your skin) of
> 97F (36C), while the temperature in bright Sun is *only about 80F
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> Fog versus the pain that air-pressure change once produced. )
>    G./

Yes, I notice that very much.  Everytime it is hot and/or humid, I
have more auras and also stronger auras that are close to a grand mal
seizure happening.  Those days I must take it easy.
Janet
Sofia - 19 Jul 2007 00:55 GMT
>> (I used to also get a severe headache Ahead of a storm as Low Air
>> Pressure zone moved in, but that seems to now be replaced
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> seizure happening.  Those days I must take it easy.
> Janet

Have either of you two ever noticed, like me that all year round you
always seem to get them more in the bathroom too? I hate to ask, but I
tend to get seizures during taking a bath, or in the completely steamed
up room straight afterwards, making it quite impossible to take it
without my Graham in the bathroom with me!

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G. - 19 Jul 2007 17:27 GMT
On Jul 18, 7:55 pm, Sofia <pinkmonster2000REM...@ALLCAPSyahoo.com>
wrote:
> >> (I used to also get a severe headache Ahead of a storm as Low Air
> >> Pressure zone moved in, but that seems to now be replaced
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Mine don't seem to be affected by *indoor humidity (within reason),
as mine are from temporal lobe (complex partial) effects, and seem to
be aggravated by difficulty breathing when the air gets damp as the
humidity rises.
 I think when mine were *worst, it was either when the air got so
humid that I had trouble breathing easily outdoors, so was more prone
to get Auras and a few times seizures under those conditions.  With
medications adjustments (and internal physical changes over time?)  I
don't get the 'Twilight zone' foggy feeling any longer when the
humidity is high (it has been in Toronto now for ~2 weeks).
   I started to relate *some of my szrs. (older post) with a lowering
in the Barometric (Air) Pressure as a storm front moved in.
Sometimes those produced intense headaches, before some of above other
symptoms started.   I had concluded the 'Brain Fog' was being caused
by blood vessels swelling (especially inside my head),  reacting to
decrease in outside (to me)  Air Pressure.    I could tell when a Rain
or Thunderstorm was likely 2-3 hours before the actual storm
started..  :-<  by reacting to above drop in air pressure.  When that
drop was Rapid, it seemed to have stronger Aura effects on me, before
pills were adjusted to where I had better control.   G./
Sofia - 20 Jul 2007 02:18 GMT
> I think when mine were *worst, it was either when the air got so
> humid that I had trouble breathing easily outdoors, so was more prone
> to get Auras and a few times seizures under those conditions.

Sounds like you've got some kind of nose allergy merged into your
epilepsy - something like... every time you have a bout of hay-fever,
you have an epileptic seizure too! :-)

Sorry, it was a joke - nothing funny about epilepsy really I expect, or
nose allergy's - I should know, I suffer with them both badly!

> I started to relate *some of my szrs. (older post) with a lowering
> in the Barometric (Air) Pressure as a storm front moved in.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> or Thunderstorm was likely 2-3 hours before the actual storm
> started

That's sad, I do hope you're better now and the meds worked out for you.
I also used to get really bad headaches sometimes after seizures, so my
neuro' gave me diazapam to calm them down with - what about you?

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G. - 20 Jul 2007 04:04 GMT
On Jul 19, 9:18 pm, Sofia <pinkmonster2000REM...@ALLCAPSyahoo.com>
wrote:
> > I think when mine were *worst, it was either when the air got so
> > humid that I had trouble breathing easily outdoors, so was more prone
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I eventually got a Med. level that controls the szrs. and more than
90% of the auras are gone. The high humidity (when air temperature is
above 80F/ 25C), isn't related to allergies.  The 'closeness' of the
air just makes it more difficult to breathe, and when I wasn't
controlled would bring on Auras and sometimes a szr. Now it's just a
level of discomfort in muggy air. I once had a prescription for Atavan
(Clobazam) that I think works similar to diazapam.
 It was *very useful when I wasn't controlled, but got Auras 4-10
minutes ahead of full Complex Partial (drop-down) szr.  I didn't get a
repeat of above prescription when my Neuro handed my file back to my
Family Doctor last year, as I hadn't used one in more than 2-3 years,
and some of those can become habit forming if used too often/ *or they
can stop functioning for what they're prescribed for, and I'd prefer
to be able to go Back onto it if I ever need to again.  It worked
really well at the time I needed it, preventing 10-12 potential
seizures over 2-3 years when I got the 'preview' aura and was away
from home.
 I mentioned Air Pressure and its effects on my type of Complex
Partial szrs., on this thread before, and another thread earlier
today, as it might not be something someone newly diagnosed might
relate to what was bringing on their szrs.   Some may *not be caused
by that, but other types can be.  If they were able to tell that's
what was triggering them the treatment might be different than if the
szrs. have other triggers or causes.   G./
Sofia - 22 Jul 2007 01:02 GMT
> It was *very useful when I wasn't controlled, but got Auras 4-10
> minutes ahead of full Complex Partial (drop-down) szr.  I didn't get a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> seizures over 2-3 years when I got the 'preview' aura and was away
> from home.

Hmmm - I'm surprised at this, I can't think why your neuro would do take
you off something that was making you feel that you were having a
really awful migraine headache!

Ever since my neuro prescribed Diazapam for me in my mid-20's, I was
using it for some of my own terrible seizure headaches, despite I'm 41
years old now. I don't get them so badly as I used to nowadays, but
even so, I still get prescribed Diazapam for them, if need be!

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G. - 08 Aug 2007 13:34 GMT
On Jul 21, 8:02 pm, Sofia <pinkmonster2000REM...@ALLCAPSyahoo.com>
wrote:
> > It was *very useful when I wasn't controlled, but got Auras 4-10
> > minutes ahead of full Complex Partial (drop-down) szr.  I didn't get a
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Just saw this older post.  The Clobazam I was prescribed was used for
a CP aura, not to treat a headache.  So when I stopped getting the
auras with better balance of the Anti Ep drugs, I didn't need the
Clobazam, as I didn't get the auras or szrs. again.
   I never had the headaches others get, the aura ahead of a low
pressure was more a brain-fog effect where things seemed more distant
than they really were, and that aura I was conscious while it happened
so it gave warning during times when I got a stronger szr. following
that.
   The last stronger szr. I had was mid. 1998, pills have controlled
the effects since before then to now.   G./
Chris Lesurf - 16 Aug 2007 11:41 GMT
I'm glad I'm not the only who has noticed a connection between
neurological variations and atmospheric pressure. I actually record the
pressure in my house morning and night (if I remember and memory is
definitely affected by epilepsy and/or anti-convulsant drugs) and I've
noticed that there seems to be a small increase in fit probability when
the pressure reaches a peak or the base of a dip in a series of changing
pressures.

Chris L.

>  Today we have a "Humidex weather forecast" (feeling on your skin) of
> 97F (36C), while the temperature in bright Sun is *only about 80F
> (25C).

>   Does anyone else notice that higher temperature or claustrophobic
> feeling, produced by Humid Air (if you have it where you are), seems
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> of pills I use and have balanced,  when the Thunderstorm finally
> starts this PM and air cools, the sensations seem to improve.

>   (I used to also get a severe headache Ahead of a storm as Low Air
> Pressure zone moved in, but that seems to now be replaced (thankfully)
> by a mild Brain Fog (someone once called it).   I think I prefer the
> Fog versus the pain that air-pressure change once produced. )
>    G./
 
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