Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Epilepsy / June 2007
The Causes Of Epilepsy
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knowledgefield@hotmail.com - 17 Jun 2007 12:21 GMT Commonly known as a seizure disorder, epilepsy is a chronic neurological condition which causes seizures to arise often, and unprovoked. The word "Epilepsy" is named by the Greek. It means to "take hold of" or "to seize". Surgical methods are sometimes used to treat this condition, but medication is the general and more common method. Not every cause of epilepsy is known to humans, but many probable factors have been identified. These factors i...
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Sofia - 18 Jun 2007 23:13 GMT > Commonly known as a seizure disorder, epilepsy is a chronic > neurological condition which causes seizures to arise often, and > unprovoked. The word "Epilepsy" is named by the Greek. It means to > "take hold of" or "to seize". Mine are also idiosyncratic/completely unprovoked, they just turn up any time, any place, any where without any kind of sign at all!
Where the word came from is complete news to me though, as I have never heard it said before, unlike everything else you wrote which has been news to me for years, hearing it as a child with epilepsy and growing up as an adult with it ( I'm 41 now)!
> Read full article at > http://www.knowledgefield.com/articles/the-causes-of-epilepsy.shtml Out of interest, are you Tyler Brooker - This website has your newsgroup pseudonym written on the top? If so, I don't know which country you exactly come from, but you say that only 1 per cent of the worlds population suffers with epilepsy. I come from Britain, a tiny little country in Europe, where I read in "The British Medical Association", that...
Out of 50 million people, the approximate population of the UK:
1. 1,000,000 - 2,500,000 will develop epilepsy in their lifetime
2. 250,000 - 500,000 will have active epilepsy
3. 10,000 - 35,000 will develop epilepsy each year.
I just wanted to show you that 1 per cent of the population couldn't be that small an amount as there are probably a lot of us living here - and becoming more and more overpopulated every year!! :-)
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G. - 19 Jun 2007 15:23 GMT On Jun 17, 7:21 am, knowledgefi...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Commonly known as a seizure disorder, epilepsy is a chronic neurological condition which causes seizures to arise often, and unprovoked. The word "Epilepsy" is named by the Greek. It means to "take hold of" or "to seize". Surgical methods are sometimes used to treat this condition, but medication is the general and more common method. > Not every cause of epilepsy is known to humans, but many probable factors have been identified. These factors i... > > Read full article athttp://www.knowledgefield.com/articles/the-causes-of-epilepsy.shtml I guess I don't Have epilepsy then, according to that definition. My seizures are caused by damage to my Right Temporal Lobe caused by Encephalitis I had in 1979. ***Within the link, it says that seizures caused by Infections or Illnesses aren't Epilepsy. :-<
The Data on frequency is wrong or misleading. Over the course of someone's life one of 2 articles I read (years ago) said the chances of developing seizures was one in 15 (7%) OR one in 30 (3+ %) depending who wrote both articles -- I think one was Ep. Foundation of America (U.S.) and other was a UK or Europe based research paper? Both those figures define a range higher by 3-7x than the data you listed, and have repeated in both my local Ep. Chapter's literature (Toronto Canada), and the International Ep. Foundation website-- http://efa.org .. unchanged since when I first went online (1997).
Who was the writer of the article you quoted and where did they get their statistics from?
Howdy Dave is our main Statistician, but both the figures (1 percent to less) appears to be incorrect, depending how they're defining who has Epilepsy, and if you have it for a number of years during a lifetime if that is used or discarded, it will skew the statistics. (Clearly since *I no longer have it :-< (encephalitis) with above definition (of Epilepsy), even though the brain damage remains, **that will affect the statistics and reduce the percent who have seizures or the medical definition most of our Doctors are using.) G./
Sofia - 19 Jun 2007 23:35 GMT Surgical methods are sometimes used to
>> treat this condition, but medication is the general and more common >> method. Not every cause of epilepsy is known to humans, but many [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Encephalitis I had in 1979. ***Within the link, it says that seizures > caused by Infections or Illnesses aren't Epilepsy. :-< Oh dear, I doubt Mr Knowledgable is that knowledgable then - even if he doesn't live in Britain, I think I ought to read him a few more causes of epilepsy from my "British Medical Association" again.
1. Inherited brain diseases, for example, tuberous sclerosis
2. Inherited epilepsies, for example primary generalised epilepsy
3. Birth trauma or head trauma
4. Brain infections, for example, meningitis, encephalitis, brain abscesses
5.Recreational drugs and alcohol, for example cocaine, amphetamines
6.Blood chemical abnormalities, for example, low calcium, magnesium or glucose
7. Cerebral haemorrhages
8. Brain tumours, for example, gliomas, meningiomas
9 Strokes
10. Dementia, for exampl, Alzheimer's disease
You'll notice you're there at No4 Gordon! I'm not actually sure which group I personally fit into, as mine are completely idiosyncratic, and I've had them since I was a child, but I should imagine out of all of them, I may have hurt my head in the school playground or something, which could have caused a slight cerebral haemorrhage perhaps - No7??
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G. - 20 Jun 2007 03:55 GMT On Jun 19, 6:35 pm, Sofia <pinkmonster2000REM...@ALLCAPSyahoo.com> wrote:
>///// other person's post, mine follows at 'I guess...' below. G./ > Surgical methods are sometimes used to [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > -- > Please visit my deviantART page:http://sofen.deviantart.com/ It might depend on the context of whichever article they were quoting? Sometimes a condition might have cases where *some types of e.g. seizures, might originate from a set of sources. But since there are so many *types of electical mis-firings of Neurons that can trigger one of our types of Seizures, it's difficult/to risky, sometimes, to generalize and suggest for example, 'all types of raspberry jam can cause seizures'.... I made that up, but from time to time have seen either articles referenced, or posts here or on the UK (defunct) group, that proposed to provide the One True cause of all our seizure types...
There was an article I saw years ago too, that included some types of Brain Effects caused to a yet-to-be born child by either illnesses the Mother might have had (and not necessarily aware of) during pregnancy (including Meningitis? and Encephalitis too), and even some types of Anti-biotic Needles to pre-treat things like Measles, Smallpox, etc. given when they didn't realize that a woman was pregnant. (I think some of the latter were prevalent, in certain areas of the world, and caused by a vaccine not being properly sterilized? before it was used as an injection.) It probably makes it more difficult to wonder 'where it came from', or what caused it, versus my case where the Dr. (Neuro) commented mine was *unusual in that it didn't start in early 1980s soon after the Encephalitis, but turned up in 1993, almost 14 years after initial brain damage. The Memory disfunction from Sept.1979 through ~1987 was severe enough that I couldn't have used this computer, as there wasn't enough Short Term Memory (from Rt. Temporal Lobe damage), to remember on a 'next screen' what I just *left behind on a previous screen. Since I had originally specialized in Computer Stuff, while 'Bill' (Gates) was still in Elementary school, I had to depend on a College Chum who had learned computers at a High School where he was teaching, after I got my first home computer. ///// Did some of your Artistic Interests develop ***around that time (during or following your onset?) or did that come along later? There are a *lot of people within the Music, Art, and Science areas who were listed on U.S. Ep. Foundation site as having had or thought to have had, exposure to epilepsy during their childhood, youth or 'early maturity' (under e.g. about 25). G./
Sofia - 20 Jun 2007 00:04 GMT > Howdy Dave is our main Statistician, but both the figures (1 percent > to less) appears to be incorrect, depending how they're defining who [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > will affect the statistics and reduce the percent who have seizures or > the medical definition most of our Doctors are using.) G./ Oh dear, just after I finished my reply to you, I turned over to my Terry Pratchett newsgroup to speak to some of my friends there and I found him on it advertising other authors. I should imagine this is another spam website too, not particularly worth replying too either.
It's probably the only reason he's getting all the facts completely wrong - I suggest we ignore him in future like the other one!
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G. - 20 Jun 2007 04:12 GMT On Jun 19, 7:04 pm, Sofia <pinkmonster2000REM...@ALLCAPSyahoo.com> wrote:
> > Howdy Dave is our main Statistician, but both the figures (1 percent > > to less) appears to be incorrect, depending how they're defining who [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > -- > Please visit my deviantART page:http://sofen.deviantart.com/ Hi. If he's posting 'on there too' (he hasn't turned up on an Astronomy Group, 'Chocolate' Dessert group (hey, we all need a hobby !! ), or another Social Group I read. But from time to time, I've sometimes clicked onto someone who didn't *sound like they had Seizures (usually when they start a post here with 'you people shouldn't be so sensitive about...' as most of us don't call the rest of us 'you people'... *If I see that someone has posted to more than just This Group, I'll usually start a New Subject behind it, and post the headers and Groups list if they are simultaneously posting to more than this group. In that case someone just clicking on Reply to Group, who doesn't notice there are 3-5 groups listed at top of their reply, will put their Email address to groups they might not wish to be visible on. I found after I've posted **here, my Sign-on Spamkiller Software will trap *40-50 messages the next morning, up from *10, so this group is being Trolled by Robot computers. If someone is posting to multiple groups (like you might have found) where he'd not usually be expected to post on e.g. 30+ groups, then you might have found a Phisher (someone who Fishes groups looking for addresses to resell). The main reason most of us use Spamkiller and AntiViral programs. *If I find someone who's apparently not experiencing e.g. Seizures, nor knows someone who has them, I report them to their providers with headers showing real source of mails or posts. I don't post when I do that here any longer. I only post if I see someone replying to a potential Phisher who likely is not one of us, as it's easier to get the main provider to clean up their member list. The Responsible Providers don't want to be identified as sites who support trolls and phishers. It cuts into their business and loses them valid customers. End rambling. G./
Malm - 28 Jun 2007 21:46 GMT If seizure disorder can not be provoked why are we then undergoing tests using EEG, sound and flashing light?
There is also another reason for this illness. Brain surgery using Ultra sound. There is a 7% chance of getting epilepsy after undergoing this kind of surgery. I manage to be among those 7%.
I am so luckly to get a warning before a seizure. I do not know if this is special for my case. Perhaps there are not two cases of epilepsy that are the same. Yes brains are physical the same but our mind are not. We also react different towards noise and stress. IMHO I think that the main reason why it is so difficult to map this illness is that medical institutes looked at us as common cases. Maybe it is impossible to find two equal cases of epilepsy? Can you find two equal minds?
I know that lack of sleep and stress heavily put me in risk of a seizure. Up to a seizure I lack control of my right side. Then I got only half a minut before darkness kicks in. If I manage to take oxcarbazepium shortly after the tellings I may overcome by mentally focus out any dizzyness and stop the world from spinning. If I am late with the oxcarbazepium I just collaps in pain.
In case of epilepsy I feel that doctors are inquiring more than they provide. Or am I being inquiring by the wrong.?..
-Malm
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