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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Epilepsy / February 2007

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J. T. Laurie - 14 Jan 2007 07:46 GMT
I will not stay here long, but I  do have a few concerns about a specific
trigger. In the united states there is an emergency alert system that
broadcasts over television and radio stations for things like weather
warnings and so on. It uses a very loud cross between a buzz and a beep to
alert the listener that it has been activated, then a double simultaneously
transmitted tone attention signal and then the message and then a three
burst end of message signal. Anyway, my question is that whenever I hear any
of these sounds of any type closely related to these I get a horrible
headache and remember nothing. Just yesterday my grandmother had to come in
and shake me out of what she described as a shaking fit after an amber alert
was sent out. Could it be the sounds, or what are the possible causes?
I thank you for your time an appologise in advance for ruining your day.

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G. - 15 Jan 2007 19:01 GMT
> I will not stay here long, but I  do have a few concerns about a specific
> trigger. In the united states there is an emergency alert system that
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> Trust and love are two of man's greatest downfalls. Let man neither trust
> nor love, for these will ultimately lead to his undoing and untimely demise.

*** Hi.  What you seem to be describing are Simple Partial Seizures
(auras) triggered by either the noise or are there Flashing Lights on
the screen?  Do you have a Remote TV Control, so you can change
channels when that happens, or Look Away when it starts until it's
done? (plug ears if it's the noise)
   Several of the szr. types can be triggered by Flashing lights (like
strobes).  If you can find an Email address for them you could write
them (online) and tell them what the Warning does for People with
Seizures (7% of their potential audience).  *My (Canada) channel has a
www address to report Local Conditions as it's a National Weather
channel/covering 6+ timezones, and I could report that sort of thing to
That www, and explain what it could be doing to 1 person in 15 or 30?
(depending which website is used--> that's potentially 3 to 7% of their
Audience **gone for the rest of that day). Some stations *care how many
people are watching the commercials between forecasts, as above--
determines how much they charge.
 If it's Noise Signal, rather than Flashing on the TV that seems to be
a Trigger for you, they might want to turn that off, as it's not needed
to get someone's attention, *or if you have a Mute Button (on a remote)
when it starts, if someone Hits the Mute it will cut out the *Sound.
Look AWAY from the screen for 30-60 seconds until the full warning is
passed, OR change Channels and use a Radio to hear Weather news.

 Moving to another (non-BBC?) channel, for the next 3? hours to one
that doesn't do that, will Lose their Audience for that period of time.
(Sponsors *pay by the no. of people per Hour who watch -- if they're
Losing at audience, they'll lost the Income to get their "Important
Disruptive message" out.  )

   If you have a Video machine, that might be a good time to watch a
Movie until weather warnings have passed. Hope that helps. If you still
have older links I posted Late Dec./Early Jan., Julie's Idaho website
(and I think Howdy Dave's) have a First Aid Chart with specific
remedies depending on the seizure type-- symptoms common with each type
are listed. I think there's "Printable page" icon-- it takes out
graphics, just lets you print a text page, without any (still) graphics
that might be there.
  You'll note on charts that Shaking Someone to bring them back isn't
always the best solution as it can produce headaches or a rougher
return to 'Normal'  than by turning off the Trigger. Hope that helps.
G./
J. T. Laurie - 15 Jan 2007 20:17 GMT
on the radio its often worse because I have maybe three seconds before
lapsing into the seizure. I can stand up and then collapse. I have no time
to get to either device or reach for the remote. but I do agree that it
needs to be taken into consideration that for some people with epilepsy it
could be dangerous. the tone is used to alert people like me with a visual
impairment that there is a warning gong across the screen. The weekly and
monthly tests of the equipment also do the same thing. I'll call the FCC or
email them and ask them about it. I see my neurologist this Thursday, and
I'll say something to him about it. If he'll listen.

>> I will not stay here long, but I  do have a few concerns about a specific
>> trigger. In the united states there is an emergency alert system that
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> return to 'Normal'  than by turning off the Trigger. Hope that helps.
> G./
wrwlfoflnd@aim.com - 20 Jan 2007 20:38 GMT
I have heard of a few cases of sonic induced seizures...was even
mentioned briefly on "House M.D."  Typically it is a loud, modulating
sound or tone that triggers a [partial] seizure starting in the
auditory processing area of the brain, and can sometimes cascade into
a general seizure [rare].  

>I will not stay here long, but I  do have a few concerns about a specific
>trigger. In the united states there is an emergency alert system that
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>was sent out. Could it be the sounds, or what are the possible causes?
>I thank you for your time an appologise in advance for ruining your day.
J. T. Laurie - 21 Jan 2007 04:26 GMT
hmmm. Thanks for that.
>I have heard of a few cases of sonic induced seizures...was even
> mentioned briefly on "House M.D."  Typically it is a loud, modulating
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>>was sent out. Could it be the sounds, or what are the possible causes?
>>I thank you for your time an appologise in advance for ruining your day.
babyT - 07 Feb 2007 13:41 GMT
>I will not stay here long, but I  do have a few concerns about a specific
>trigger. In the united states there is an emergency alert system that
>broadcasts over television and radio stations for things like weather

Here are some triggers that has effected a girlfriend.

- Car Alarm going off outside the window
- Watching a movie in the theater - the film jammed up and the sound
was a rapid thudding noise...  I caught it kinda quickly and rushed
her out of the theater.
 
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