> >I have had TLE all my life (I am 47 now). I was taking dilantin until
> > I was 10 or 11. Before they took me off dilantin I was a straight A
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> --
> David Ruether
>> I was on 3500mg/day of Depakote (makes your dose seem rather
>> small, especially since you were heavier), and it has made me
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>> group...
>> --DR
> Thanks, Dave,
>
> I am fortunate that in 6 months I have found a good combination of meds
> that works for me. I have read a lot of forums and it is the number
> one common problem for epileptics.
Yes, that is what I've gathered here, too...
> I know what you mean by the "spacies;" I hardly have them at all
> anymore.
You are lucky!
> The only time any of the symptoms come back is when I hear an
> unexpected loud noise, like a door slamming. I almost instantly go
> into that spacy place and it takes me about 10 minutes before I am back
> to normal. My hands also lock up, which is kinda freaky.
I lose muscle strength and ability to talk, but remain conscious
(sight and sound perceptions get odd though). Periods "under"
can vary a LOT, but generally are a few minutes, with great
variations in frequency.
> I was taking a shower at about 1 in the morning a couple of nights ago
> and the toilet lid fell down and it sent me back to paranoia land. I
> could feel the ghosts in the bathroom with me. It only lasted a few
> minutes, thank God.
I'm lucky in having no strong feelings during my events - they
just happen (though just after eating, petting *one* of two cats
we had, and during conversations are the more common times
for them than just randomly, oddly).
> I also had a false stroke, which sent me to the hospital for a week.
> One afternoon the left side of my body lost its relexes and I told my
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> I am going to ask about going up to 400mg, since this stuff works
> great for me.
Maybe I should not have quit using it so soon - and should have
decreased the Depakote at the same time as the Lamictal was
increased. Who knows... You were lucky in finding someone who
could manage yours with what would work for you - but too bad
it took so long though...
> I hope no one gets upset by my success with this.
????!! I think ALL would be happy for you!!!!
> I really, really
> know how bad TLE can be and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I will be
> happy to listen or help anyone with my experiences or just wants
> someone to understand what others can't.
>
> Rob
Thanks. There are times if I wonder if I am "nutty", but I continue to
be aware, connected with reality, and "settled" even in the midst of
my "oddities", so I guess I'm OK...;-)
--DR
hoorayf@gmail.com - 27 Oct 2006 15:22 GMT
> >> I was on 3500mg/day of Depakote (makes your dose seem rather
> >> small, especially since you were heavier), and it has made me
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>
> --DR
>Maybe I should not have quit using it so soon - and should have
>decreased the Depakote at the same time as the Lamictal was
>increased. Who knows... You were lucky in finding someone who
>could manage yours with what would work for you - but too bad
>it took so long though...
I'm not a doc, but I would definitely give the lamo another try. It
took me a long time to dose up to 350mg - about 6 mo. and it kept
getting better and better. The way I did it was with valporate and the
combination worked so I wasn't hungy. I was taking 12.5 mg lamo at
first with the 1000 mg valproate and worked down with the valproate and
increased the lamo. Another thing with the lamo is that you have to
watch out for rashes, especially in combination with valproate. I
experienced a very pleasant itching feeling with the first few
increases. Once you titrate up to 250 mg, then doses can go up by 50
mg steps. I stopped having the itchiness at about 250 mg. I was
scared I was going to get the "rash" when I got the itchiness, bet my
neuro didn't seem to concerned. I'm not saying don't be concerned to
anyone taking lamo, I'm just relating my experience. If you itch or
get a rash - see a doc. If you can't see your doc right away, don't
wait, go to an ER right away and take the lamo with you.
> I lose muscle strength and ability to talk, but remain conscious
> (sight and sound perceptions get odd though). Periods "under"
> can vary a LOT, but generally are a few minutes, with great
> variations in frequency.
I always kept the ability to talk, but mostly it was just mumbling.
I'm glad I've met someone who knows what this "odd" place is. I go
there now only when I up the dose of lamo, and then for only a few days
after and then everything smooths out. I am especially glad I am
almost 100% free of the paranoia. That is the worst. I constantly
thought people were talking about me or spying, etc, except I was still
able to function and have a normal life, unlike schizophrenics. I was
able to have friends and get along, but outside of being around friends
and familiar situations, it would take over in public spaces and when I
was alone. It was a paradox to be normal and paranoid at the same
time. Actually, I am slightly ashamed and afraid to talk about it
(ironic, eh?) since I fear someone will misjudge the experience. The
first people I have been able talk about the paranoia with are my wife
and the neurologist. I've tried talking to my older sister about it,
but she could never get what I was talking about. Actually, I dreaded
being around family for the holidays; I much prefered just being with
friends.
David Ruether - 27 Oct 2006 16:35 GMT
[...]
>>Maybe I should not have quit using it so soon - and should have
>>decreased the Depakote at the same time as the Lamictal was
>>increased. Who knows... You were lucky in finding someone who
>>could manage yours with what would work for you - but too bad
>>it took so long though...
> I'm not a doc, but I would definitely give the lamo another try. It
> took me a long time to dose up to 350mg - about 6 mo. and it kept
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> get a rash - see a doc. If you can't see your doc right away, don't
> wait, go to an ER right away and take the lamo with you.
>> I lose muscle strength and ability to talk, but remain conscious
>> (sight and sound perceptions get odd though). Periods "under"
>> can vary a LOT, but generally are a few minutes, with great
>> variations in frequency.
> I always kept the ability to talk, but mostly it was just mumbling.
> I'm glad I've met someone who knows what this "odd" place is. I go
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> being around family for the holidays; I much prefered just being with
> friends.
Thanks for the further info. I have other "weirdities" going on at
the same time in addition to the "spacies" and "jitters-'n'-jerks"
(like speech stops, stuttering, cluttering, sound swaps, etc.; endless
word/sound repetitions until I wear out and sleep; unintended
nonsense speech; Tourettes-like brief outbursts [with jerks]; and
unintended movements [I feel like a puppet on strings sometimes...]).
The high dose of Depakote made it hard to hold food on a fork or
liquids in a spoon, but I managed to eat too much anyway...;-) It
appears that the right compromise dose of Depakote will give me
control over the jitters, jerks, and hand-shaking, I think, but not
the other things. Fortunately all of this does not go on continuously
(as the jitters did before starting Depakote). BTW, I wrote you
an email asking if you would continue this outside this NG. Let
me know...
Thanks.
--David Ruether