> You should tell the Dr., when you see them, as you might? be coming
> off the therapeutic levels during the night, and the cramps or pains
> could be result of 'thrashing' ? or restless sleep.
Part of the reason I switched to the zonisamide is because it takes a
very long time to be eliminated (half-life of 3-4 days), so if you miss
a dose you're less likely to have a seizure due to a sudden drop in the
level. The problem I have right now is in the muscles that run
parallel to the spine, which are hard to "thrash", and I also sometimes
get cramps in places like my hip and the arch of my foot. So I think
it's something with the workings of the muscles.
> The other 2 respondents had better experience with the current meds. you use. I
> was (luckily) able to use Tegretol CR with a second med. The 100mg
> you were worried about (of Tegretol), is 1/8 what I was on at peak--
> now I'm at 400mg.
I don't use them any more, but when I was I was taking 400mg Tegretol
CR and 50mg Lamictal twice a day. I was surprised to find how many of
my miscellaneous health problems turned out to be due to their side
effects, particularly the gross state of my skin, which has now gone
back to normal. The one thing I would really like, though, is just to
be able to have a normal sleep cycle. All three of these interfere
with sleep in one way or another (apparently sometimes in opposite ways
in different people), so it would be nice to have a normal night's
sleep after 22 years.
> Did you look at http://efa.org or other medications site, or even
> speak to your Pharmacist (Chemist) to see if that might be a side
> effect needing attention? Even if you had contacted the Dr. by
> phone, they could suggest, e.g. spacing the doses differently or
> adjusting some up or down as result of your experience.
The Medline site lists "aching muscles or joints" under "side effects
that usually go away, but check with your doctor if they continue or
are bothersome". But in the package insert, it says:
"If patients taking zonisamide develop severe muscle pain and/or
weakness, either in the presence or absence of a fever, markers of
muscle damage should be assessed, including serum CPK (creatine
phosphokinase) and aldolase levels. If elevated, in the absence of
another obvious cause such as trauma, grand mal seizures, etc.,
tapering and/or discontinuance of zonisamide should be considered and
appropriate treatment initiated."
No indication of what's actually happening in that case though. I
already had my CPK level checked and found to be elevated (~900 vs.
200-250 normally). Unfortunately because this wasn't listed in the
regular drug information I didn't link it to the drug at the time, and
even though I've seen three doctors about the muscle problems and
always told them what I was taking they never showed any curiosity
about it (how much I was taking, when I started relative to when the
other problems started, etc.), which is very irritating. So I'm hoping
that the two weeks between that CPK test and this appointment in a
couple of days haven't done some permanent damage. I haven't got
severe muscle pain or weakness, so hopefully they're only talking about
extreme cases of the "aching" side effect.
> Prompt stopping of several of the meds. (including the Tegretol you
> once had), can aggravate seizure control, so any dose changes you did
> should be done with assistance of the Doctor.
Yes, I'm well aware of that. I wasn't talking about stopping cold
turkey tomorrow, but tapering off. Tegretol was actually very easy,
because it's eliminated so quickly; even Tegretol CR is pretty much
gone within 2 days. Zonisamide has to be tapered at an interval of
about two weeks per 100 mg, because it takes so long to be eliminated.
> Keep us 'posted' -- lots of people read here, and can benefit from
> your experiences.
I will; it seems I'm the only one here taking zonisamide, so I'll keep
you informed on how it goes. Other people have had strange reactions
to it (hallucinations, talking to green worms crawling up the walls,
etc.), but fortunately I haven't had anything like that.
Karl
Sofia - 26 Oct 2006 01:07 GMT
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 11:04:33 -0700, knm956 wrote:
>> You should tell the Dr., when you see them, as you might? be coming
>> off the therapeutic levels during the night, and the cramps or pains
>> could be result of 'thrashing' ? or restless sleep.
Well it's certainly true that we're all individuals, as I've been mixing
and matching my meds for over 30 years now, and nowadays am on tegretol,
keppra, and zonisamide twice daily, but I think drowsiness and excessive
sweating, and insomnia have to be the only really horrid after-effects
I've suffered from my meds. I don't think I can't ever remember having
cramps - but maybe because this could be because as Jim pointed out, I
also take a multivitamin pill which contains magnezium!
Sofie

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