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Nocturne - 11 Feb 2006 15:27 GMT
I want to know if the cellular phone have an incidence on the
epileptic.  I thing I have some change of my epilepsy since I have a
cellular phone.  Before I had my cell, I'm an epileptic only when
I'm sleep.  Now, I have some seizure in the day and I do some
absence, I never have that before.  My EGG change too.

Do you have some information for me...

Pardon my English, I'm French and I do my best.
Dave Keays - 11 Feb 2006 20:12 GMT
> I want to know if the cellular phone have an incidence on the
> epileptic.  I thing I have some change of my epilepsy since I have a
> cellular phone.  Before I had my cell, I'm an epileptic only when
> I'm sleep.  Now, I have some seizure in the day and I do some
> absence, I never have that before.  My EGG change too.

That's a scary thought that is new to me.

Just be careful who you follow on this one. It strikes me as another FUD call
for tinfoil hats or grounded Faraday cages. Items that were supposed to counter
the grave threat of mind control rays from the Matrix.

> Do you have some information for me...
>
> Pardon my English, I'm French and I do my best.

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G. - 13 Feb 2006 03:36 GMT
C'est Legende Faux.  Ecriver  http://quackwatch.com  et
cellularphone&epilepsy ,search.  Je pense les reportes sont seulment en
Anglais.
(Votre Anglais est plus bonne que mon Francais...  )  G./
Dave Keays - 13 Feb 2006 07:46 GMT
> C'est Legende Faux.  Ecriver  http://quackwatch.com  et
> cellularphone&epilepsy ,search.  Je pense les reportes sont seulment en
> Anglais.
> (Votre Anglais est plus bonne que mon Francais...  )  G./

I would appreciate being able to decipher this post. The web site referred to in
the post is fascinating, but I can't find a reference to either epilepsy or
cellularphone.

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G. - 13 Feb 2006 15:35 GMT
I should probably have said Legende Urbane -- my older post translated
-->
*****
"This (cell phones causing epilepsy he asked about) is a False Legend/
urban legend.   Write http etc. and cellular&epilepsy then Search.  I
think the reports are only in English (Your English is much better than
my French... )  G. "
********
  The poster was concerned whether using Cell Phones could make
epilepsy worse, as he had read that? somewhere, and his seizures had
become worse again after being on some medications for a while.   So he
had wondered if his *phone was giving him more seizures.  (more on him
at *bottom)

  A year or so ago another lurker complained that Quackwatch wasn't a
reliabe source of information, but when I first saw it posted (about
1998) found it interesting, and an easy way to pass an hour or 2 just
searching on assorted Quackery + Urban Legends. You can search on a
single topic and it might come back and say "I found 50,000 references
to Nurf Balls-- would you like to refine your search?"
  So you can use & symbol to link search to only find messages
containing *All* the words that are linked by &s, so what I tried to
suggest he look for was
'cellularphone&epilepsy'  and it might say, "I found 48 messages
containing those 2 words, would you like to see the first 10?"
(It sorts messages from what it thinks are Most likely to Least likely
to be what you want. It's a robot, so sometimes that doesn't work as
well-- But *I often found what I was looking for in first 10 or 20
messages it found.)
******
 The woman with the Canine Seizures (if she's still reading) can go to
Google and search on either Canine Seizures or Canine&seizures  and see
what it will give her too.
*************
For the poster I was trying to help, you could either try Cell Phones
alone, or maybe just cellphones&seizures to look for the hits on it.
  (The address was first posted here when someone was trying to sell
Aluminum Foil Beanies to wear, to keep out magnetic waves and cure
epilepsy. The replier, back then, used to post regularly, had done the
actual search down to the particular topic, where someone had analyzed
the beanies and shown them to be useless. If it hadn't been so late, I
would have tried that level of search to help our Newbie Francais.)

  *I suspect that either his body has adjusted to his medications or
he might need a dose adjustment to get control again. <--Those were not
all words my 2 years of French/ English taught me, so I used most words
I knew that he could decode enough to know not to worry that his Cell
Phone was causing his seizures to return. G./
polaris - 14 Feb 2006 00:16 GMT
Dave, never mind the poseur.   :)

Here's a better link:

http://mayoclinic.com/health/seizures/AN00838

>> C'est Legende Faux.  Ecriver  http://quackwatch.com  et
>> cellularphone&epilepsy ,search.  Je pense les reportes sont seulment en
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> the post is fascinating, but I can't find a reference to either epilepsy or
> cellularphone.
Dave Keays - 14 Feb 2006 06:09 GMT
Polaris,

Thank you.

I was about to respond to the previous post but decided to read your post also.
So here's what I wanted to say:

I thought we were talking about what was on that web site. I didn't know we were
talking about Googleing those words.

When I said there was no reference to xyz I was saying that it wasn't in the
index at quackwatch. I couldn't find any reference to "Epilepsy" or to
"Cell"/"Cell Phone"/"Cellular".

> Dave, never mind the poseur.   :)
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>> epilepsy or
>> cellularphone.

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G. - 14 Feb 2006 06:48 GMT
 I thought it was too (set up to search like google).

 I hadn't used the Quackwatch link since someone posted it when I was
on my Windows XP1 about 5 years ago.
Descriptions I gave could better be found using Google, but it also
sounded like stuff that was previously on Quackwatch, as I remember
articles there about Cell phones causing *cancer, possibly arthritis
and assorted things when they were 1st popular (1998).
  Any bookmarks I might have picked up here, were filed on an older
computer that had xp1 on it, so I assumed the articles could be
retrieved from that site.   As we sometimes get assorted cures here,
(we had a Magneto-man selling magnetic bracelets or helmuts about 2001,
that are described on Quackwatch to cure Cancer and Aids now), that I
assumed the articles would still be on QW.
  I was still trying to keep up with the Olympics so didn't go test
the links to make sure what you wanted was still there.   Hopefully the
fellow from France can decode the earlier post and get the information
I was trying to give him (that the claims about seizures and cell
phones was bogus), and can understand the English link put up later. G./
Dave Keays - 14 Feb 2006 07:37 GMT
>   I thought it was too (set up to search like google).
>
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> computer that had xp1 on it, so I assumed the articles could be
> retrieved from that site.   As we sometimes get assorted cures here,

> (we had a Magneto-man selling magnetic bracelets or helmuts about 2001,
> that are described on Quackwatch to cure Cancer and Aids now),

For your sake I hope it wasn't the one I ran into about 1990.

He tried to convince me that a medical approach (surgery in this case) wouldn't
cure anything more than a doctors thin wallet. What I gave up trying to make him
understand was that I wanted the medical approach because the "scar tissue" on
my Temporal Lobe was growing according to UCI. So it might be a tumor and I
wanted it out! I didn't want to be muddling around with possible cures the way
me and my doctors did for the previous 10-30 years.

Lets see here; I was suffering because of the weakening of the earths magnetic
field for the last 2k years and a magnet properly placed would help the natural
energy flow to my brain. I also had problems because of a cinched nerve that was
interfering with the "feed-back" loop but Acupuncture would facilitate the
correct energy flow. Why do I turn my skeptic meter on high as soon as I hear a
claim about "energy flow"?

> that I assumed the articles would still be on QW.

I'm going to be watching that sight now too.

>    I was still trying to keep up with the Olympics so didn't go test
> the links to make sure what you wanted was still there.   Hopefully the
> fellow from France can decode the earlier post and get the information
> I was trying to give him (that the claims about seizures and cell
> phones was bogus), and can understand the English link put up later. G./

Now I prefer the summer sports.  I can hardly wait for Soccer and Fencing. The
two sports I played when I was young and my favorites now. There seems to be a
connection here somewhere.   8^)

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polaris - 14 Feb 2006 12:57 GMT
Dave, Quackwatch seems to be an informative site.  I looked at it only
briefly.

I was simply looking for an answer re: cell phones and seizures, and I
think one of the top google pages answers that question more directly
than manual searching.  Sounds like you and I did the same search at
Quackwatch, and I didn't see anything, either.

Don't let me interfere with any ongoing discussions.

> Polaris,
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>>
>> http://mayoclinic.com/health/seizures/AN00838
G. - 20 Feb 2006 03:11 GMT
 I thought it would have been on QW site too, as they had been
'reported' on various sites (by people without the conditions
necessarily),  as cause of Heart Conditions, Seizures, Cancers, etc...
So I had thought it was on above site too.   If I had time that night
to search out a direct link to there I would have posted it.  G./

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