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Dave ???? - 21 Sep 2003 22:37 GMT
Howdy!

I'm gonna' have my VNS turned on (again) this Wed.

The real implications, music wise, didn't hit me until I was sitting in
church today listening to the choir (we have an outstanding one!)

No more choir, no more SPEBSQSA (barbershoppers), no more chorale, no more
folksongs in the park and no more Doo Wop!

Sometimes epilepsy's a bitch!

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Dave ???? - 21 Sep 2003 22:41 GMT
First time it wasn't so bad because I didn't know what was gonna' happen to
my voice.

Ignorance is bliss!

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Dave ????
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> Howdy!
>
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> Sometimes epilepsy's a bitch!
Cows69 - 22 Sep 2003 12:16 GMT
Dave what about putting the magnet over it while you do singing so your voice
stays the same?  I haven't had voice change on mine so not sure, but know a of
a few who did have the voice change and sing in our church choir and they turn
it off for the service and then turn it back on after the service.  JSut a
thought I know it may not work for you, but trying to figure something out!  I
was curious if you don't mind sharing, why are you having it turned back on?  I
am at the point where I might have mine turned off for a while just to give
myself a break and maybe by doing that and turning it back on it could help the
seizures again.  Again just a thought not wure if it is the best!  Take care
and sending good healing thoughts your way!  Ann
Dave ???? - 22 Sep 2003 22:36 GMT
Howdy Ann!

Sort of tough to do the choreography when you have your hand on your chest.
Tough to accompany yourself on an instrument too!

re: Turning it back on...
It was turned off in 2001 because it didn't do anything.  Since that time I
have been diagnosed with sleep apnea and am currently using a cpap machine.

Sleep is one of the very BASIC variables involved with epilepsy. Now that
there has been a change in one of the variables I'm gonna' see if it makes a
difference in my seizure control.

Besides -- I like to piss & moan a lot!  :)

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Dave ????
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http://www.howdydave.com

> Dave what about putting the magnet over it while you do singing so your voice
> stays the same?  I haven't had voice change on mine so not sure, but know a of
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> seizures again.  Again just a thought not wure if it is the best!  Take care
> and sending good healing thoughts your way!  Ann
jedi and son - 22 Sep 2003 23:11 GMT
> Besides -- I like to piss & moan a lot!  :)

Dave,

Here's to hoping that you're awake when you do that!  :-P

Jedi and Son
Dave ???? - 23 Sep 2003 00:35 GMT
Howdy!

Awake when I piss & moan, eh?

Well maybe for one of them anyway!

(Let's see how perverted you are, you pick which one!)

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Dave ????
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> > Besides -- I like to piss & moan a lot!  :)
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> Jedi and Son
Mark Generaux - 08 Oct 2003 06:42 GMT
Dave,

Another use for Duct Tape... Mark

> Howdy Ann!
>
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> care
> > and sending good healing thoughts your way!  Ann
Mary Fisher - 23 Sep 2003 21:14 GMT
> Howdy!
>
> I'm gonna' have my VNS turned on (again) this Wed.

Wossat then?

Mary
Dave ???? - 23 Sep 2003 22:07 GMT
Howdy Mary!

Wossat what - VNS?

The Vagus Nerve Stimulator... a pacemaker for the brain.
I've got a page about it on my site

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Dave ????
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http://www.howdydave.com

> > Howdy!
> >
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> Mary
Mary Fisher - 23 Sep 2003 22:22 GMT
> Wossat what - VNS?
>
> The Vagus Nerve Stimulator... a pacemaker for the brain.
> I've got a page about it on my site

Ah! Thank you, I had heard of it, just didn't recognise the abbreviation.

Mary

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Dave ???? - 23 Sep 2003 22:30 GMT
Howdy Mary!

If you don't like Vagus Nerve Stimulator we can always go with the Visiting
Nurse Service ! (USA)

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Dave ????
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http://www.howdydave.com

> > Wossat what - VNS?
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> > > Mary
Mary Fisher - 23 Sep 2003 22:40 GMT
> Howdy Mary!
>
> If you don't like Vagus Nerve Stimulator we can always go with the Visiting
> Nurse Service ! (USA)

OH! Here they're called <looks round and whispers> District Nurses ... shhh

We weren't allowed to say that as children!

At least we thought we weren't because every time adults said that the
<District Nurse> had called somewhere they did it in hushed tones!

A bit like stocking tops ...

The days of innocence!

Mary

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Dave ???? - 23 Sep 2003 23:10 GMT
Howdy Mary!

Stocking tops??

For me it was those "garter straps!" I knew that the bottom button went on
the stockings but I never could never figure out what the top button was
attached to.

(Am I even close?)

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Dave ????
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Mary Fisher - 23 Sep 2003 23:19 GMT
> Howdy Mary!
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>
> (Am I even close?)

No idea. You must remember that I live here and you live, er, there. If I'm
right.

Here, garters are rings of elastic which hold knee length socks up, there
are no buttons on them. The tops of the socks were folded over the garters.
Wolf Cubs and Boy Scouts had a little green ribbon on the garters which hung
below the sock tops as part of their uniform.

There are (or were when I subjected myself to such torture) buttons on
suspenders - which I suspect are more like our garters where you live ...
Here they were part of corsets, roll-ons, pantie girdles or (believe it or
not) suspender belts.

As for top and bottom buttons, I'm completely lost. You obviously had a far
more enlightened childhood than I did.

But did you wear a liberty bodice?

Perhaps I've gone to far, is there a nanny on this ng?

Mary

Mary
Dave ???? - 23 Sep 2003 23:47 GMT
Howdy Mary!

Well...

I'm afraid that you totally lost me with your hush-hush reference to
stocking-tops!

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Dave ????
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> Mary
Mary Fisher - 24 Sep 2003 20:35 GMT
> Well...
>
> I'm afraid that you totally lost me with your hush-hush reference to
> stocking-tops!

Boy! Putting Dave off his train of thought - must be a first :-)

Mary

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Pablo - 24 Sep 2003 08:35 GMT
g'day mary,
i always thought garters were those frilly little elastic things that the
groom pulled off the brides thigh and threw to a bunch of drunken bachelors
at a wedding, sort like when the bride throws her bouquet to a group of
desperate spinsters.
pablo

> > Howdy Mary!
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> Mary
Mary Fisher - 24 Sep 2003 20:36 GMT
> g'day mary,
> i always thought garters were those frilly little elastic things that the
> groom pulled off the brides thigh and threw to a bunch of drunken bachelors
> at a wedding, sort like when the bride throws her bouquet to a group of
> desperate spinsters.

Yes, that's the - shall we say - ceremonial type. In that case they have no
real funtion, i.e. they don't hold up socks or even stockings.

I don't think there are many desperate spinsters around these days, do you?

Mary
Pablo - 25 Sep 2003 06:05 GMT
no i suppose not. as the song says "girls can get it any time they want"
pablo

> > g'day mary,
> > i always thought garters were those frilly little elastic things that the
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>
> Mary
Mary Fisher - 25 Sep 2003 19:46 GMT
> no i suppose not. as the song says "girls can get it any time they want"

Being a maiden is not the same thing as being a spinster.

Mary
Pablo - 25 Sep 2003 21:08 GMT
depends on which definition of spinster you're applying
spinster - an unmarried woman
            - a woman beyond conventional marriage age
both are right :) i guess it's just like our raging debate on "epileptic"
the definition and the connotation can be very different.
pablo

> > no i suppose not. as the song says "girls can get it any time they want"
>
> Being a maiden is not the same thing as being a spinster.
>
> Mary
Dave ???? - 25 Sep 2003 21:12 GMT
Howdy pablo!

Don'cha just LOVE semantics?

(Obviously some of us do!)

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Dave ????
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> depends on which definition of spinster you're applying
> spinster - an unmarried woman
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> > Mary
Pablo - 26 Sep 2003 14:42 GMT
semantics? they were a rock band in the 60's weren't they ;)
pablo
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Dave ???? - 26 Sep 2003 22:10 GMT
Howdy pablo!

Naaaaaaa....

That's the sort of things that got me into trouble when I was a kid!

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Dave ????
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http://www.howdydave.com

> semantics? they were a rock band in the 60's weren't they ;)
> pablo
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> > > > Mary
M - 28 Sep 2003 08:30 GMT
Dave ©¿©¬ <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote
>Howdy pablo!
>
>Don'cha just LOVE semantics?

Beware - I was always told it can give you epilepsy or make you go
blind.

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Dave ???? - 30 Sep 2003 19:14 GMT
Howdy Malcom!

If it makes me go blind I guess I'll just have to handle my lamictal /
increased libido problem by using brail, eh?

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Dave ????
"Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus"

http://www.howdydave.com

> >Howdy pablo!
> >
> >Don'cha just LOVE semantics?
>
> Beware - I was always told it can give you epilepsy or make you go
> blind.
Bob - 29 Sep 2003 01:11 GMT
"Dave ©¿©¬" wrote:

> Howdy pablo!
>
> Don'cha just LOVE semantics?
>
> (Obviously some of us do!)

Just don't ever refer to anybody as "a semantic".  That's pretty insulting.
They must be referred to as a person who "has ???"<g>

Bob

> Dave ©¿©¬
> "Noli illigitemi carborundum decendus"
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> > > Mary
Mary Fisher - 29 Sep 2003 20:20 GMT
> > Howdy pablo!
> >
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> Just don't ever refer to anybody as "a semantic".  That's pretty insulting.
> They must be referred to as a person who "has ???"<g>

?

Semantics is a noun, not an adjective ...

Mary

> Bob
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gaross - 29 Sep 2003 22:04 GMT
> > > Howdy pablo!
> > > Don'cha just LOVE semantics?
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> Semantics is a noun, not an adjective ...
> Mary

 So above sentence wasn't a semantic correction then?  G.  (Quicksand!  Get
me Out of here!! :-<  )
Mary Fisher - 29 Sep 2003 22:10 GMT
> > > > Howdy pablo!
> > > > Don'cha just LOVE semantics?
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>   So above sentence wasn't a semantic correction then?  G.  (Quicksand!  Get
> me Out of here!! :-<  )

ISTR something about not digging to get out of a hole :-)

Mary
Bob - 29 Sep 2003 22:26 GMT
> > "Dave ©¿©¬" wrote:
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> Semantics is a noun, not an adjective ...

and yet another good reason not to use it.<g>

Bob

> Mary
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Dave ???? - 30 Sep 2003 19:24 GMT
> > > > Howdy pablo!
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> and yet another good reason not to use it.<g>

Ain'cha glad it ain't a VERB?

> Bob

Howdy Bob!

See that?  We just cured half of epileptics in the world (the females) of
their epilepsy!

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Dave ????
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http://www.howdydave.com

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Mary Fisher - 30 Sep 2003 21:06 GMT
> See that?  We just cured half of epileptics in the world (the females) of
> their epilepsy!

Er - are you referring to me, sir????

Mary
Dave ???? - 30 Sep 2003 19:19 GMT
Howdy Bob!

If "a semantic" is not proper then, by using the proper word structure of
the English language, I guess we'll have to say:

"A semantic" =
"A person who happens to have seman"

Do you REALLY want me to say that?  :))

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Dave ????
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http://www.howdydave.com

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Dave ???? - 30 Sep 2003 19:42 GMT
Howdy!

That's just in case we have any readers who have a primary language other
than English!

And Bob... I'm shocked!  You make a statement like that and don't have the
balls to come right out and say it!  :)

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Dave ????
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> Howdy Bob!
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> > > > > Mary
Bob - 30 Sep 2003 22:06 GMT
"Dave ©¿©¬" wrote:

> Howdy!
>
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> And Bob... I'm shocked!  You make a statement like that and don't have the
> balls to come right out and say it!  :)

It's always nice to leave something to the imagination. :-)

Bob

> --
> Dave ©¿©¬
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Mary Fisher - 30 Sep 2003 21:06 GMT
> "A semantic" =
> "A person who happens to have seman"
>
> Do you REALLY want me to say that?  :))

What's seman?

Mary
Pablo - 01 Oct 2003 08:09 GMT
> > "A semantic" =
> > "A person who happens to have seman"
> >
> > Do you REALLY want me to say that?  :))
>
> What's seman?
the singular of semen perhaps? :->
pablo

> Mary
Dave ???? - 01 Oct 2003 20:57 GMT
> > > "A semantic" =
> > > "A person who happens to have seman"
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> >
> > Mary

Howdy Mary!

Only if he hasn't had any shore liberty for a long LONG time!

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Mary Fisher - 01 Oct 2003 23:02 GMT
> > > "A semantic" =
> > > "A person who happens to have seman"
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> the singular of semen perhaps? :->
> pablo

Um. I can't think that semen can be singular. Or plural.

But how would I know!

Mary

> > Mary
John G. Rune - 01 Oct 2003 23:22 GMT
Rumour has it that on Wed, 1 Oct 2003 23:02:21 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
<mary.b.fisher@zetnet.co.uk> said:

> > > > "A semantic" =
> > > > "A person who happens to have seman"
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> But how would I know!

NO COMMENT!  <g>

> Mary
> > >
> > > Mary

> quite
> > >
> > > contrary
M - 02 Oct 2003 21:05 GMT
>> Um. I can't think that semen can be singular. Or plural.
>>
>> But how would I know!
>
>NO COMMENT!  <g>

Well, you can't have two semen can you, only two samples of semen? But
then, on the microscopic scale we all started off as a SINGLE sperm
swimming in amongst TENS OF MILLIONS.

And the one thing we can all be proud of is that, out of so many sperm
swimming furiously towards their goal .... we were the fastest!

It's not size that matters, it's speed :)

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Mary Fisher - 02 Oct 2003 21:20 GMT
> >> Um. I can't think that semen can be singular. Or plural.
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> It's not size that matters, it's speed :)

But semen is only the carrier - the medium - for sperms to live in ...

I can't bring myself to say that semen ARE the carrier ...

Mary
Dave ???? - 03 Oct 2003 05:05 GMT
> > >> Um. I can't think that semen can be singular. Or plural.
> > >>
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> Mary

Howdy Mary!

If you knew some of the rat-hole ports of call that there are in the world
you wouldn't have any problems saying that semen are carriers -- carriers of
all sorts of aweful little buggers and social diseases!

BTW: Shouldn't that be semen ARE the carriers? (See my Maritime site!)  :)

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Pablo - 03 Oct 2003 09:56 GMT
> > > >> Um. I can't think that semen can be singular. Or plural.
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> BTW: Shouldn't that be semen ARE the carriers? (See my Maritime site!)  :)

g'day dave,
i'd have to say i agree with you but let's not going to quibble over
sementics ;)
pablo
Bob - 30 Sep 2003 21:59 GMT
"Dave ©¿©¬" wrote:

> Howdy Bob!
>
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>
> Do you REALLY want me to say that?  :))

I guess the devil made you do it.<g>

Bob

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Mary Fisher - 26 Sep 2003 18:12 GMT
> depends on which definition of spinster you're applying
> spinster - an unmarried woman
>              - a woman beyond conventional marriage age

Well I'm English and have never heard of the latter definition.

I suspect it's an antipodean one.

Mary
Pablo - 28 Sep 2003 00:45 GMT
g'day mary
i don't know, but it is in the oxford dictionary
pablo

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> Mary
Dave ???? - 25 Sep 2003 21:09 GMT
Howdy Mary!

At what point does a maiden become a maid:

25, 30, 35, 40, 45?

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Dave ????
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http://www.howdydave.com

> > no i suppose not. as the song says "girls can get it any time they want"
>
> Being a maiden is not the same thing as being a spinster.
>
> Mary
Mary Fisher - 26 Sep 2003 18:13 GMT
> Howdy Mary!
>
> At what point does a maiden become a maid:
>
> 25, 30, 35, 40, 45?

The words are interchangeable in my experience.

Unless you're thinking of a serving maid of course ... in which case she can
be any age.

Then there's cricket ... oh no, I'd better not go there.

Mary

> > > no i suppose not. as the song says "girls can get it any time they want"
> >
> > Being a maiden is not the same thing as being a spinster.
> >
> > Mary
M - 28 Sep 2003 08:33 GMT
Dave ©¿©¬ <dave@_nospam_howdydave.com> wrote
>Howdy Mary!
>
>At what point does a maiden become a maid:
>
>25, 30, 35, 40, 45?

Once she's made it with someone.

Dave, have you no understanding of the birds and the bees today? I know
it's Sunday morning, but...

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Mary Fisher - 28 Sep 2003 11:20 GMT
> Dave, have you no understanding of the birds and the bees today? I know
> it's Sunday morning, but...

Sunday mornings are very good for birds and bees.

Mary
Liz & Allan MacDonald - 25 Sep 2003 13:37 GMT
> I don't think there are many desperate spinsters around these days, do you?

Was I ever surprised when Allan and I met with the minister who would
marry us in Montreal.  Filling out the paperwork, he wrote for Allan,
Batchelor, and for me, Spinster.  We had a good laugh.  I wasn't
desperate - I was still a youthful 29.
Liz
mark stamey - 25 Sep 2003 18:35 GMT
Hi

Denotative, Connotative, Operational.

Does any one know what the spinster / bachelor equivalent for the word
"phallic" is? There is a very legitimate one but it appears in the language
less often than the words  "male spinster". Don't worry, I'm not trying to
be salacious, just continuing a thread, I hope.

By the way, a friend of mine just earned her Masters degree. She told her
husband he would have to start calling her by her new academic title. He
demurred, "Yes, Dear. I will as soon as you start calling me 'Bachelor'."

<<?>>

> > I don't think there are many desperate spinsters around these days, do you?
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> desperate - I was still a youthful 29.
> Liz
Mary Fisher - 25 Sep 2003 19:47 GMT
> > I don't think there are many desperate spinsters around these days, do you?
>
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> desperate - I was still a youthful 29.
> Liz

Being a spinster is nothing to do with age.

Mary
Liz & Allan MacDonald - 26 Sep 2003 14:55 GMT
> Being a spinster is nothing to do with age.

I know - the mention of age was a comment on 'desperate'.

Liz
Mary Fisher - 26 Sep 2003 18:14 GMT
> > Being a spinster is nothing to do with age.
>
> I know - the mention of age was a comment on 'desperate'.

Age has nothing to do with desperation.

Not that you said what kind of desperation ...

Mary

> Liz
Dave ???? - 25 Sep 2003 18:29 GMT
Howdy Mary!

I think that there are probably more desperate spinsters around these days
than there ever were before. You must remember that "spinster" is the
correct name for "bachelorette". (That and the population explosion don'cha
know...)

Desperate for WHAT? Is a totally different issue!

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Dave ????
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http://www.howdydave.com

> > g'day mary,
> > i always thought garters were those frilly little elastic things that the
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> Mary
Mary Fisher - 25 Sep 2003 19:51 GMT
> Howdy Mary!
>
> I think that there are probably more desperate spinsters around these days
> than there ever were before. You must remember that "spinster" is the
> correct name for "bachelorette". (That and the population explosion don'cha
> know...)

Well, here in old fashiones (huh) UK very many women don't WANT to be
married. They want to keep their independence, whatever that is, so they
live with a 'partner'. Until they get a new one.

It's a form of serial monogamy.

> Desperate for WHAT? Is a totally different issue!

A deperate spinster suggests that she wants a husband.

She could get a 'partner' any day.

I think it's a shame, this use of the mundane 'partner'. 'Lover' is far more
romantic, 'paramour' even moreso.

Mary
Dave ???? - 24 Sep 2003 19:54 GMT
Howdy!

Just got back from the Epilepsy Center. They turned me on (a good lookin' PA
and a good lookin' representative from Cyberonics.)

It seems that they have decided that these days they don't have to send as
much current through a persons system as they did a couple of years ago.
While I may be a frog for 30 seconds and normal(?) for 5 minutes after that;
at least I won't be a frog in pain!

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Dave ????
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Sorry about the duplicate in the I AM AN EPILEPTIC thread.

> Howdy!
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> Sometimes epilepsy's a bitch!
sassy_q - 26 Sep 2003 21:58 GMT
I'm soo happy to hear that Dave. I got my VNS implanted a couple of
months ago from Cyberonics and I absolutely love it.  It has done
wonders for me.  My seizures are very in control now and I don't get
scared going out anymore.
 
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