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ironjustice@aol.com - 24 Sep 2005 18:05 GMT
Can J Neurol Sci. 1979 Feb;6(1):43-5. Related Articles, Links

Vitamin E deficiency and seizures in animals and man.

Ogunmekan AO.

Study of 100 children with grand mal convulsive disorders and 100
medically healthy children of matching age showed significantly lower
plasma levels of vitamin E in the former (means 632.2 +/- 17.3 and
822.5 +/- 21.8 micrograms/dl respectively; p less than 0.001). This
finding accords with the ability to prevent seizures in rodents by
giving alpha-tocopherol before exposing them to a convulsion-inducing
environment.

PMID: 122540 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Chronic Treatment with Mood Stabilizers Lithium and Valproate Prevents
Excitotoxicity by Inhibiting Oxidative Stress in Rat Cerebral Cortical
Cells.
Shao L, Young LT, Wang JF
Biol Psychiatry. 2005 Jul 6;

BACKGROUND: Recent studies indicate that chronic treatment with the
mood-stabilizing drugs lithium and valproate produces a neuroprotective
effect against excitotoxicity. In this study, we aimed to determine
whether inhibiting oxidative damage plays a role in a neuroprotective
effect of lithium and valproate against excitotoxicity. METHODS:
Intracellular free calcium concentration was measured with the
fluorescent calcium ion indicator fluo-3. Malondialdehyde, an end
product derived from peroxidation of polyunsaturated fatty acid, and
protein carbonyls were used to assess oxidative damage to lipid and
protein. Excitotoxicity was assayed by measuring cell viability with
the MTT [3-(4,5-dimethylthiazol-2yl)-2,5-diphenyl tetrazolium bromide]
method and by measuring deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) fragmentation with
TUNEL (terminal deoxynucleotidyltransferase-mediated deoxyuridine
triphosphate nick end labeling) staining. RESULTS: We found that
chronic treatment with lithium and valproate at their therapeutically
relevant concentrations significantly inhibited the glutamate-induced
increase of intracellular free calcium concentration, lipid
peroxidation, protein oxidation, DNA fragmentation, and cell death in
primary cultured rat cerebral cortical cells. This treatment had no
effect on basal intracellular free calcium concentration, lipid
peroxidation, protein oxidation, DNA fragmentation, and cell death.
CONCLUSIONS: Our results suggest that chronic treatment with lithium
and valproate inhibits oxidative damage to lipid and protein and in
turn produces a neuroprotective effect against excitotoxicity.

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outsor@citynet.net - 24 Sep 2005 18:21 GMT
         Square planar bis(imino)pyridine iron halide and alkyl
         complexes.
         Bouwkamp MW, Bart SC, Hawrelak EJ, Trovitch RJ, Lobkovsky E,
         Chirik PJ.
         Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, Baker Laboratory,
         Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853, USA.
         Square planar iron methyl complexes containing
         bis(imino)pyridine (PDI) ligands have been prepared by
         reductive alkylation of the corresponding ferrous dichloride;
         dialkylation is observed upon treatment with a larger alkyl
         lithium.
         PMID: 15997279 [PubMed - in process]
ironjustice@aol.com - 24 Sep 2005 19:40 GMT
Well at least you were able to incorporate .. something .. although ..
vaguely related .. TO .. the thread ..

Finally learned one of the basics of .. 'on topic' .. in .. the use of
the internet .. newsgroups ..

Eh .. doofus ..

Jeez .. it seems it may even employ .. iron chelation ..

Increased IP6 / inositol hexakisphosphate .. an iron .. chelator ..

Psychopharmacol Bull 2001 Summer;35(3):5-18

Inositol, lithium, and the brain.

Agranoff BW, Fisher SK
Departments of Biochemistry and Psychiatry, Mental Health Research
Institute, Neuroscience Laboratory, University of Michigan, 1103 East
Huron Street, Ann Arbor, MI 48104-1687, USA. agranoff@umich.edu

[Medline record in process]

This review of the background and present state of knowledge of the
interactions of inositol metabolism and lithium commemorates the 150th
anniversaries of the discovery of inositol and, independently, of first
attempts to use lithium as a therapeutic agent. We review the inositol
depletion hypothesis, which proposes that lithium's beneficial action
in the treatment of bipolar disorder is attributable to its inhibition
of the enzymatic breakdown of inositol phosphates to free inositol. A
resulting reduction in free intracellular inositol is proposed to slow
the recycling of inositol-containing metabolites required for signal
transduction. We offer an alternative hypothesis, which is also based
on lithium's blockade of inositol phosphatase, but proposes that neural
signal transduction is suppressed as a consequence of lithium-induced
inositol phosphate accumulation rather than of inositol depletion.

PMID: 12397875, UI: 22285581

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Sofia - 28 Sep 2005 21:48 GMT
> Study of 100 children with grand mal convulsive disorders and 100
> medically healthy children of matching age showed significantly lower
> plasma levels of vitamin E in the former

Hmmm? Is there a scientific study, or website, or even just something more
substantial than your word that can prove any of this? I mean, wouldn't
the neurologists have told us that vitamin E deficiency could be the
problem of our tonic-clonic seizures if it were true?

Besides, even if you were right, and all you say is true, then what about
people amongst us who *have* been taking high doses of vitamin E in our
food since we were children, and have never had anything wrong with our
plasma in our lives, but are still getting an extremely large amount of
grand mal seizures?

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andrew_c - 29 Sep 2005 19:24 GMT
>>Study of 100 children with grand mal convulsive disorders and 100
>>medically healthy children of matching age showed significantly lower
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> Sofie
>  
Well, one of my old neuro's did tell me that vitamen E and calcium and
magnesium supplements _might_ help. I tried them for a couple of years.
 Can't say if they helped or hurt. I've actually been wondering about
this recently.

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