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jan.niven@bigpond.com - 10 Jun 2005 21:31 GMT
I am a new member.I am wondering if anyone else is in the same position
with their epilepsy as we are. Ihave daughter age 17 who has had
epilepsy for four
years. The seizures started off as just vacancies occassionly. Over the
next year they became more and more frequent until it was daily. This
last year the seizures  developed into grand mals as well.18 months ago
she was video and EEG monitored for 10 days. This showed she has the
whole range of seizures. She has major seizures in her sleep as well.
Sometimes just one arm has a seizure
by itself. The longest she has been seizure free is nine days. Then
she will have several in a day or at least one a day. Other times she
cannot remember words or just cannot understand what you are saying.
After most seizures she will sleep for 3-5 hours.She can have several
different types of seizures in the one day. I have checked anything I
would reguard as triggers without success. There is no pattern to them.
She has tried 16 different drugs and we haven't got to control them.
Her doctor said there is always 10%
that can't be treated. She is on the list to be video monitored again
to see if she is eligable for an operation. In all other areas my
daughter is a completely normal 17 year old. She now suffering from
social isolation, she hasn't been to school for two years and it is
starting to damage her confidence. After several grand mals she has
ending up with black eyes which embarress her.
Has anyone got information on how they deal with this.
G.Ross - 11 Jun 2005 04:34 GMT
>I am a new member.I am wondering if anyone else is in the same position
> with their epilepsy as we are. Ihave daughter age 17 who has had
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> ending up with black eyes which embarress her.
> Has anyone got information on how they deal with this.

 I don't have answers to most of your questions.  I wondered if there is an
Epilepsy Association near to you?   Some of them have meetings 1 to 3 times
a week, where people who have seizures can meet, based on different age
groups, to talk about their seizures and troubles they are having.
  Some of the meetings here (Canada) are Adults/mixed, Adults/ men only,
Adults/ women only,  Teen Age girls,  Teen Age boys,  Mixed? , plus Parents
and children.
  By meeting others who have similar problems and also the Moderators who
are trained in Seizure Conditions, they can develop confidence again to
improve their social skills, and sometimes also job related or vocational
rehabilitation if they are age where they'd want to look for a job, instead
of education.
   Perhaps if there's an organization like that (in UK?), she might get
some help from them.
 There are clubs like that in both Canada and the U.S. that do that.   The
U.S. ones are listed under http://efa.org   site.   I don't have a sample of
the Canada ones handy at the moment.  But if you could find something like
that close to you, you might be able to find someone there who could help
her.   You might have to go along to the first few if she's uncomfortable
travelling on the Subway or Bus systems where you are.    Some of the ones
here allow family members to join in on the sessions, or you could go
shopping while she's in the meetings.  (Usually the meetings last 1.5 to 2
hours each time, but some occur several days a week, while some here are
only once a week. )
   Has her Doctor or Neuro suggested anything like that before? or was that
tried already?   G./
Dave ©¿©¬ - 11 Jun 2005 06:24 GMT
Howdy!

The first thing that I would do is to talk to the doctor and see what
alternatives there are for her to finish her schooling.
Other resources would be the local school board, the county dept. of social
services and your local branch of the Epilepsy Foundation.

If she can not go to school, the state may pay to have her schooling
completed at home.

Although this might not solve her "isolation" problem, IMO it would be a
definate moral boost to know that she is CAPABLE of completing her high
school education. If nothing else, look into a GED diploma.

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> I am a new member.I am wondering if anyone else is in the same position
> with their epilepsy as we are. Ihave daughter age 17 who has had
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> ending up with black eyes which embarress her.
> Has anyone got information on how they deal with this.
Dave ©¿©¬ - 11 Jun 2005 06:35 GMT
What state do you live in?

Here in NY the state program is called VESID:

Vocational and
Educational
Support for
Individuals with
Disabilities.

Every State Education Dept. has a special education program.

Look them up in the phone book under State Government / Education.

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> Howdy!
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> > ending up with black eyes which embarress her.
> > Has anyone got information on how they deal with this.
G.Ross - 12 Jun 2005 23:49 GMT
I think 'bigpond' etc. in the headers is a UK website/ provider.  There
might be a similar support network on the uk sites, if they can find the UK
Ep. main site, that's similar to http://efa.org  that does the US sites.
Otherwise they might have to call a UK office or see if the
uk.people.support.epilepsy site is active at all.   It was all but dead in
1999 after Marland's Master-Trawling Robot was actively Culling **all the
UK.people.support.**     Health sites,   for Tricks to resell.

   Unless he's off the air, I'd have no reason to subscribe there to see if
it's any cleaner than it was 6 years ago.   It wasn't worth the time setting
filters and discarding the Trash he supported then, so I have not interest
even setting that group on a link to see if it managed to clean itself.

   They might still be able to search the UK local site on the Internet *or
in the Phone book as you suggested below, to see if they have offices near
to where they are who might be able to help..   G./

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Dave ©¿©¬ - 13 Jun 2005 06:25 GMT
The National Society for Epilepsy (NSE)
http://www.epilepsynse.org.uk/

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> I think 'bigpond' etc. in the headers is a UK website/ provider.  There
> might be a similar support network on the uk sites, if they can find the UK
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Julie - 13 Jun 2005 20:00 GMT
Welcome to our group, my comments follow.

> I am a new member.I am wondering if anyone else is in the same position
> with their epilepsy as we are. Ihave daughter age 17 who has had
> epilepsy for four
> years.

My seizures are not such a problem, but I have had experience with complex
partials and generalized tonic clonic (grand mal).  When I was 17 I was
having seizures, but they were not diagnosed.  Now my seizures are
controlled, but I think the biggest help for me is staying away from
processed food because MSG was a big trigger.  I also am careful to keep
away from stress.  When I was younger my seizures tended to happen during
my menstrual cycle.

Does your daughter have an aura before a seizure.  Does she start to have a
funny feeling in her stomach?  If so the best way to stay safe is to lay
down, rather than fall down.

> She now suffering from
> social isolation, she hasn't been to school for two years and it is
> starting to damage her confidence. After several grand mals she has
> ending up with black eyes which embarress her.
> Has anyone got information on how they deal with this.

She definitely needs to get her education.  Is she getting a black eye
because she is falling?  If I feel like I'm about to have a seizure I lay
down, no matter where I'm at.  I did this at a basketball tournament one
time.  I laid down right in the hallway as my husband was taking me to the
rest room.  I started to feel dizzy and knew I needed to lay down.  The
paramedics came and helped me out.  I wasn't embarrassed.  I did what I
needed to do.  I didn't' have a seizure.

If you live here in the states, which state?

Take care,
Julie, Volunteer Webmaster
Epilepsy Foundation of Idaho
http://www.epilepsyidaho.org
owlvee - 13 Jun 2005 21:23 GMT
Julie, you stated that you laid down where you were in a mall, and the
parimedics came and helped you out when you had your "grand mal" seizure.
Do they come each time you have one?
How about anyone else???
It seems as if mine are bad enough that they have to be called each
time. Or to me at least anyways. Now that I am thinking about it maybe
not though....
My friend is saying no.......
I just can't remember being unconcious for an hour or longer :)
~..~
owlvee
pipercub49 - 14 Jun 2005 14:17 GMT
I have Grand Mal Seizures and I have no idea when I am going to have
one. 911 has been called so many times and most of the time it was not
needed. It was because who I was with was affraid. There was of course
a few times that it was needed. Now my Neurologist has put me on
Diastat to stop the seizures so I dont't have to go to the ER. If that
does not work then who ever I am with calls 911. But after having to
have the Diastat I do have go the next day and get my blood levels
checked. Mary F.
Julie - 15 Jun 2005 05:30 GMT
Hi Mary, it sounds like your friends and family need education about
epilepsy.  It can be a very frightening thing to see, but if they see
movies about E, read books, go to support groups, they will be prepared
and can feel empowered to be able to assist you.

Take care,
Julie

> I have Grand Mal Seizures and I have no idea when I am going to have
> one. 911 has been called so many times and most of the time it was not
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> have the Diastat I do have go the next day and get my blood levels
> checked. Mary F.
Julie - 15 Jun 2005 05:28 GMT
I've had assistance twice from paramedics.  Both times I was at a college
basketball game.  One was in my local community.  The other one was in Reno,
Nevada.  Both times it involved what triggers my seizures.  My problems tend
to happen when I eat something with MSG - this triggers irritable bowel
syndrome (severe cramping in my stomach and diarrhea) - this has triggered
seizures several times in the past, but I was able to stop from having the
grand mal (tonic clonic seizure) both of these times..

Both times I was helped by paramedics they could tell that my vital signs
were showing I was in distress.  In Reno they put me on a gurney and took me
to a quiet place, by my request.  I have medication to take to stop the
cramping.  They got me to a restroom and had me lay down and gave me oxygen,
while they continued to monitor my vital signs.  Finally I started to
recover.  Both instances I did not have a tonic clonic seizure.

The first instance the paramedics told my husband to take me home.  I was
very disappointed because it was a double header and we didn't see our team
play.  But I was feeling pretty lousy.

When I had the episode in Reno I felt more in control of what was going on.
I had my husband take me right to the paramedics, I told them I have
epilepsy, I was having an irritable bowel attack and needed to lay down right
away and needed to get to a quiet place.  They complied.  After it was over
and I was stabilized once again we were told that it would be best for us to
leave.  Once again I had not seen the team play.  This time I spoke up and
said "people with epilepsy need to have a life too".  I didn't want to leave
I wanted to stay.  A woman who worked there told the paramedics that she
would put me in a wheel chair and if I had problems she would get me right
out of there.  I was happy to sit in the wheel chair and root on the team.

Take care,
Julie

> Julie, you stated that you laid down where you were in a mall, and the
> parimedics came and helped you out when you had your "grand mal" seizure.
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> ~..~
> owlvee
Chris Lesurf - 14 Jun 2005 16:22 GMT
The British Epilepsy Association - which now calls itself 'Epilepsy Action
- used to have lots Action for Epilepsy Groups run by volunteers involved
with epilepsy directly or as carers. My ex-husband and I started one in
East London in 1972 but having moved to Scotland 22yrs ago I've no idea
whether it (or many of the others) still exists.  

There should be people involved in your GP's surgery/Social Work dept/
general voluntary organisations association or Citizens' Advice Bureau who
have information about services/groups available for mutual help.

The important thing is to stop her feeling the odd one out but after 2yrs
out of school that's not going to be very easy. Was she going to any
socially therapeutic sessions supplied by the Health Service or Social
Services ?

Chris L.

> I am a new member.I am wondering if anyone else is in the same position
> with their epilepsy as we are. Ihave daughter age 17 who has had
> epilepsy for four
> years.
> Has anyone got information on how they deal with this.
Richard Stickman - 15 Jun 2005 20:52 GMT
Hello Jan,
I think your first move should be to make sure your daughter has a good
neurologist, then join your State's Epilepsy Association and ask as many
questions as you can think of? I have been epileptic since January, 1969. I
started by having Grand Mal (or 'Tonic Clonic ') seizures in my last year of
school I think I am lucky because I have seizures down my left side only,
but have many many of them.
I too have been video-monitored prior to surgery in 1996. -Two operations in
one week! I also have a device called a Vagus Nerve Stimulator implanted in
my chest and am due to have surgery to replace it soon as the battery is
dead?
I also had neurosurgery in 1984, but to no avail? Jan, try to ensure your
daughter remains active socially? Lot's of epileptics - self included - lose
all confidence and their lives suffer socially as well as medically, losing
friends etc.?
Good health, regards,
Rich.

>I am a new member.I am wondering if anyone else is in the same position
> with their epilepsy as we are. Ihave daughter age 17 who has had
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> ending up with black eyes which embarress her.
> Has anyone got information on how they deal with this.
Rewired - 21 Jun 2005 22:08 GMT
Hi,
I have had epilepsy since I was 8 months old and now am 42. In my
teens, I was having about 800 seizures a year. Anything from SP to CP
with secondary generlized. I can remember not taking my meds, because I
wanted to be like my friends and they didn't take meds. Yes I was very
isolated. I had a couple of close friends, that I knew would not tease
me if I had a seizure and would help me also.
I'm not sure what will help your daughter, but I learned that I had to
be just my self. Does your daughter have any aura's at all? My triggers
are lack of sleep, poor diet and extreme personal stress.
After many years I learned that i could tell that day if I was going to
have a seizure, just by the way I felt.
In 1999 I had the right hippocampus removed and went from more than
1000 seizures a year to 1-2 a year.
Can I ask why your daughter is out of school for so long?
If you like I will send this on to my mom. She might have some insight
from the MOM point of view.

Chris
> I am a new member.I am wondering if anyone else is in the same position
> with their epilepsy as we are. Ihave daughter age 17 who has had
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> ending up with black eyes which embarress her.
> Has anyone got information on how they deal with this.
 
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