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owlvee - 14 May 2005 04:05 GMT
I am being switched from Dilantin to Lamotrigine...
Has anyone had experience with this medication.

I have grands at least twice a month and partials (petites), or small
seizures two or three times a week and the dilantin and topiramate are
not being effective evidently....

I am starting with 25mg every other day and working my way up with 500mg
(200am/300pm)eventually.

Thanks.
~..~
owlvee
April Showers Bring May Flowers - 14 May 2005 06:08 GMT
Im sorry i cant help but please do let me know how your doing
nikki
Liz & Allan MacDonald - 14 May 2005 13:59 GMT
Lamotrigine/Lamictal increased my simple partials from 2-3 daily to a
high of 14/day.  It also gave me amazingly vivid dreams.
No doubt you have been warned that a rash is a sign of a serious
reaction to the drug.  More than five years ago, when I tried it, my
doctor didn't know that swollen glands was also a sign of a reaction to
it.  Hope it works for you!
Liz

> I am being switched from Dilantin to Lamotrigine...
> Has anyone had experience with this medication.
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> owlvee
Dave ©¿©¬ - 14 May 2005 18:11 GMT
Howdy Owlvee!

Fancy meeting you in this neck of the woods! :)

I'll second the VERY vivid and incredable in the minute detail. In my case,
even the background information was detailed.

I'll give you the standard warning: WATCH OUT FOR THE RASH.

Ask your doc about interactions with other epilepsy drugs that can inhibit
the lamictal. If the doseages of any other epilepsy drugs are changed, have
them to a blood test on lamictal levels.

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> I am being switched from Dilantin to Lamotrigine...
> Has anyone had experience with this medication.
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> owlvee
owlvee - 14 May 2005 23:25 GMT
> Howdy Owlvee!
>
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> I'll give you the standard warning: WATCH OUT FOR THE RASH.

Thanks Dave,
Ya know, I really don't want to stall around as far as getting the jump
on this rash thing goes. (And just for the record, I am not even going
to try and get with Mary on the "ref: Misery" posting anymore! She
definitely has me horsewhipped on the ponies knowledge wise!!! :)  )

BUT, as far as the rash is concerned, I am wondering if I should notice
it with me starting out on the 25mg every other day or will do you think
it should take a while.
I did notice that my ankle areas felt like they had a misquito bitten
itching last night type but no rash (I didn't seen any bites and will
watch closer tomorrow when I take the med again).

Somewhere I read that the med can act like poison oak or ivy.  Yesterday
was my first day of taking the med.
I'll be taking one 25 mg tab every other day for 14 days then once a day
for 14 days, then twice a day for 14 days, then three times a day, then
two twice a day etc, till  build up to the 5oo mg at 2/100mg am and
3/100mg  pm. I just wonder at what point in time should a person start
getting a rash IF they were going to get one....

Again thanks,
~..~
owlvee
David Ruether - 15 May 2005 03:31 GMT
>> I'll second the VERY vivid and incredable in the minute detail. In my case,
>> even the background information was detailed.
>>
>> I'll give you the standard warning: WATCH OUT FOR THE RASH.

> Thanks Dave,
> Ya know, I really don't want to stall around as far as getting the jump on this rash thing goes. (And just for the record, I am
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> owlvee

From what I recall, you are more likely to develop the rash in
the early part of ramping up on it (particularly if done too quickly)
than later when at working level. Also, my neurologist friend told
me (when I started on it) that it is more likely for kids to develop
the rash than older people. BUT, if ANYTHING looks like a rash,
have it checked out IMMEDIATELY (it will likely not be tiny-area,
like a bug-bite), since the rash can become dangerous rapidly.
Look up Lamictal and rash on google for more, and read carefully
the sheet that comes with the drug. My doctor was VERY
conservative in the build-up rate, at 2mg/day, then 5mg/day, 10,
etc. - and it took a couple of months to reach the final level (but
not quite as long to get off it when it didn't work...). Since I was
also on Depakote, the final level was lower than it would have
been otherwise. Hint: about the only thing that covers the
incredibly bitter taste of Lamictal when taking it is milk (preferably
chocolate milk) - the taste of this stuff is HORRENDOUS! ;-)
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Dave ©¿©¬ - 15 May 2005 04:14 GMT
> >> I'll second the VERY vivid and incredable in the minute detail. In my case,
> >> even the background information was detailed.
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> incredibly bitter taste of Lamictal when taking it is milk (preferably
> chocolate milk) - the taste of this stuff is HORRENDOUS! ;-)

Howdy David!

You ain't seen nuthin' until you've tried the combo of lamictal and acid
reflux...

Except maybe chomping down on a Depakote when it's in your mouth! (I had a
seizure once when it was in my mouth and I got acid burns in my mouth!)

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David Ruether - 15 May 2005 17:28 GMT
>> [...] Hint: about the only thing that covers the
>> incredibly bitter taste of Lamictal when taking it is milk (preferably
>> chocolate milk) - the taste of this stuff is HORRENDOUS! ;-)

> Howdy David!
>
> You ain't seen nuthin' until you've tried the combo of lamictal and acid
> reflux...

EEEEEEEEEEE  Y-E -O-O-O-O-W!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This must be truly terrible!!!  Ugh........., I'm still
reeling from this one...! BLEAH! At least on the
"front side", the milk makes it possible to swallow
Lamictal without going into shock... BTW, in the
2 and 5mg sizes, Lamictal has a great "blackberry"
flavor, so WHY are the larger sizes so terrible?!?!

> Except maybe chomping down on a Depakote when it's in your mouth! (I had a
> seizure once when it was in my mouth and I got acid burns in my mouth!)

O-o-o-o-o...., the "fun" continues.....;^(
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owlvee - 15 May 2005 21:10 GMT
>>>[...] Hint: about the only thing that covers the
>>>incredibly bitter taste of Lamictal when taking it is milk (preferably
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> O-o-o-o-o...., the "fun" continues.....;^(

I take a handfull of pills at a time.
I take 4 caps of 100mg phenytoin (dilantin), 1/200 mg topiramate,
1/100mg sertraline, 1 aspirin, 1 high potency multivitamin, along with
the 25mg lamotrigine (which I have just started every other day) so I
haven't noticed the taste really...
(That's the am dosage, the pm now being 200mg topiramate).

Along with the large glass of water, it's like eating breakfast with out
the problem of having to cook....

Blackberries heh? In that case, I can't wait to get to the full dosage.

I guess my mane ;) concern is the rash now...............
(Just had to put my "bit" in now didn't I, if the fun is continuing )
~..~
owlvee
Happily Apathetic - 16 May 2005 00:27 GMT
Lamictal stopped my epilepsy......DEAD I have had no seizures that I know of
since i started it. I had no rash, I loved the new vivd dreams but thats me.
Hope it works for you.

Craig
Australia

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>I am being switched from Dilantin to Lamotrigine...
> Has anyone had experience with this medication.
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> owlvee
Me - 27 May 2005 04:34 GMT
God, I envy you.  Lamictal, Keppra & pb - 20 seizures a year - minimum
Me
> Lamictal stopped my epilepsy......DEAD I have had no seizures that I know
> of since i started it. I had no rash, I loved the new vivd dreams but
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> Craig
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mournenwould@aol.com - 27 May 2005 22:11 GMT
What do partials feel like?

> I am being switched from Dilantin to Lamotrigine...
> Has anyone had experience with this medication.
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> owlvee
Dave ©¿©¬ - 27 May 2005 22:33 GMT
Howdy!

Depends on whether you're talking about simple partials or complex partials.

Complex partials don't feel like anything: OBLIVIAN! There is just a chunk
of time gone from your life.

SIMPLE partials feel like different things to different people:

There can be SENSATIONS involved: sounds, smells, tastes, nausia.
There can be EMOTIONS involved: fear, anger, etc.
There can be PERCEPTIONS involved: deja vu, jamais vu, out of body
sensations, superconciousness, etc.

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> What do partials feel like?
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> > owlvee
Ben There - 28 May 2005 02:41 GMT
> Howdy!
>
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> There can be PERCEPTIONS involved: deja vu, jamais vu, out of body
> sensations, superconciousness, etc.

I had (past tense) what's called "gastric" auras. I'd get a little
nauseated then get a "taste" in my mouth of what I described as a
combination of old sock, raw potato, and cardboard. A smart-*ss resident
(junior MD doing his neuro rotation) heard that and asked, "How do you
know what old sock tastes like?" His grin, my <grrr>. Most of the time
they were just followed by deja-vu's. Sigh, sometimes they weren't.  

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