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Montyna - 06 Sep 2003 02:17 GMT
I've been having partial temporal lobe seizures since 1990. They're
not increasing in intensity, but they are in frequency. I'm 42, I'm
not sure if it's because of my age or not. My new doctor is very
gung-ho for me to have another full workup, several of which I've
already gone through over the years and which have shown up nothing.
Because the seizures are changing, of course I'm going to.

I'm real worried about going on medication. So far I've never even
come close to losing consciousness. I feel I've been dealing with them
just fine all these years and want to continue on this way. But then
the thought of these things being gone once and for all is wonderful.

I'm hoping someone here can offer some words of wisdom and experience
for me.

Thanks,

Montyna
www.mt-thoughts.com
Martin Bell - 06 Sep 2003 06:08 GMT
If your seizures are not causing to many problems, I'd stay off the drugs as
long as possible. Drugs aren't a cure all
and the side efects can cause you more problems once your on them. I've been
on medication for twenty five years using different drugs and taking
different dosages. I still have seizures. So don't believe your Doc when he
says the drugs will cure you.

If your amount of seizures do increase then seek medical help. I suggest you
find a local epilepsy support group in your area. Maybe someone has had a
similar experience or have some idea's none of us here have thought about.

Good luck,

Martin
> I've been having partial temporal lobe seizures since 1990. They're
> not increasing in intensity, but they are in frequency. I'm 42, I'm
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> Montyna
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Dave ???? - 06 Sep 2003 19:57 GMT
Howdy Martin!

It's time for you to get another doctor for yourself if s/he said that drugs
will "cure" you!

It is a basic medical fact that epilepsy is a MEDICAL CONDITION not a
DISEASE.

Conditions are treated, not cured. You can't just make a medical condition
go away. (Not even by ignoring it and avoiding meds.)

What's with the big fear of medication?  If your seizures are increasing in
frequency, that IMO indicates that something is happening.

re: still have seizures... You may still have seizures (as a matter of fact,
so do I) but medication has given many people with epilepsy COMPLETE CONTROL
of their seizures.  Just because it doesn't work for you doesn't mean that
it doesn't work for anybody!

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> If your seizures are not causing to many problems, I'd stay off the drugs as
> long as possible. Drugs aren't a cure all
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CyberCafe - 06 Sep 2003 06:58 GMT
> I've been having partial temporal lobe seizures since 1990. They're
> not increasing in intensity, but they are in frequency. I'm 42, I'm
> not sure if it's because of my age or not. My new doctor is very
> gung-ho for me to have another full workup, several of which I've
> already gone through over the years and which have shown up nothing.
> Because the seizures are changing, of course I'm going to.

Mine started as simple partial seizures then gradually over 20 years
developed into complex partial seizures.  My doctor said there was a
chance had I continued to go untreated that they could have developed into
grand mal.  When my seizures first started at about age 20, there weren't
many symptoms, but over the years more and more symptoms appeared and the
frequency increased although a lot of that frequency thing had to do with
hormone changes.  It's too bad a doctor, friends, or co-workers didn't
recognize what was going on, or maybe some of this later stuff could have
been avoided completely.

> I'm real worried about going on medication.

What part are you worried about: side effects, the cost, or something
else?

> So far I've never even
> come close to losing consciousness. I feel I've been dealing with them
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> I'm hoping someone here can offer some words of wisdom and experience
> for me.

Remember how it was before you had seizures?  If you are lucky, you might
be able to experience that again.  Getting control of seizures can reduce
the amount of fear and worry, although I don't think it completely
disappears, but there can be times when you completely forget you have
epilepsy, and that is a great feeling.  It's also not fair to family
members, friends, co-workers, etc., if they inadvertently have their lives
affected by how we feel.  For myself, I had missed a lot of family events,
had to leave events early, and of course, this meant whoever I was with
had to leave as well.  We are also putting ourselves and others at risk in
a sense because we can't be positive we don't have momentary blackouts.  I
don't know, there are just too many positive improvements if you can find
a medicine that works.  I guess you just have to weigh the risks and
benefits.

Barb

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>
> Montyna
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Montyna - 06 Sep 2003 23:27 GMT
Yes, it's the side effects I am worried about. How bad are they?

I usually have less then 10 times a year when I'll have a "set" of
seizures spread over two or three days, maybe once or three times a
day. There's been times where there's almost been a year without them,
then when I start to think it's all over, I get whammed again. I HATE
IT! I hate the feeling of it coming, I hate the feeling of it going
and I hate the sense of trying to hold on in the middle of it.

So how bad are the side effects? Do you really think the side effects
are worth suffering through for something that only happens rarely?

I don't live by myself and no one has every said anything nor have I
ever felt like I had a "black-out". If we were in the middle of a
conversation and I had one, you wouldn't know (I certainly wouldn't
tell you).

Maybe I'm just being a big baby and am still trying to not admit
they're real.

Montyna
www.mt-thoughts.com
Dave ???? - 07 Sep 2003 00:54 GMT
Howdy Montyna!

I have my seizures in groups too. They are called "cluster seizures."

Somebody may have some side effects, a second person have different side
effects and a third person may have no side effects at all!

Another big issue is drug interactions:

Is somebody on multiple drug therapy for their epilepsy?

Is somebody taking any drugs at all for any other diseases or conditions?
Decongestants?
Antihistimenes (this is a big one!)
Aspirin?

In the case of some drugs other things may interact, alcohol, food (good
example is tegretol and grapefruit)

There is one thing that I keep hammering away at and that you should keep in
mind:

Everybody is different!!!!!

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> Yes, it's the side effects I am worried about. How bad are they?
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CyberCafe - 07 Sep 2003 01:21 GMT
> Yes, it's the side effects I am worried about. How bad are they?

I've been on two drugs.  The first was Tegretol, which worked great, and I
didn't have any side effects that bothered me; however, I did get a giant
rash (no itching, no discomfort, or anything), and they had to take me off
it.  Then they put me on Dilantin, which has not caused any daily
problems, but I did have gum overgrowth, which they removed surgically.  I
guess some of that gum overgrowth can be avoided by very good oral
hygiene.  Maybe the gum overgrowth would have happened even if I hadn't
been taking Dilantin (although I really doubt it).

The liver enzyme alkaline phosphatase is very high, but my doctor said
that could be a result of the meds or previous gall bladder disease.
There was no baseline liver enzyme test done prior to going on meds, so
they just don't know the cause.  The gal in the epilepsy clinic though
says an elevated alkaline phosphatase is an indicator to them that the
patient had been taking their Dilantin.

> I usually have less then 10 times a year when I'll have a "set" of
> seizures spread over two or three days, maybe once or three times a
> day. There's been times where there's almost been a year without them,
> then when I start to think it's all over, I get whammed again. I HATE
> IT! I hate the feeling of it coming, I hate the feeling of it going
> and I hate the sense of trying to hold on in the middle of it.

Before I got close to menopause, my seizures also came in sets or
clusters, and they were always right before my menstrual cycle.  When I
got closer to menopause, the seizures started coming mid-cycle.  Then
right before menopause (a very abrupt one), they came whenever they darned
well felt like it.  For a long time, I did not realize the association
with hormones until I started keeping track of them on a calendar and
there was a positive correlation.  My cycles were never regular but my
brain knew it was coming because the seizure symptoms would start right
before my menses.

> So how bad are the side effects? Do you really think the side effects
> are worth suffering through for something that only happens rarely?

You might not get any side effects.  I have not had ANY day-to-day side
effects so far (been on Dilantin for almost 13 years).  I really enjoy NOT
having seizures, so I'm definitely staying on my meds because I can't
stand how bad I feel having seizures.  There is also no way for some
people to tell they are having seizures during sleep.  I mean, if you can
have them during the day, why not at night.  They had me on a portable
monitor, and they did find I was having a lot of seizures during my
sleep.  Gee, no wonder I woke up more tired than when I went to bed.

> I don't live by myself and no one has every said anything nor have I
> ever felt like I had a "black-out". If we were in the middle of a
> conversation and I had one, you wouldn't know (I certainly wouldn't
> tell you).

I worked in a sheltered workshop for adults with developmental
disabilities and many, many of those folks had seizures (every type of
seizure was present in that population).  I worked directly with the
social workers, program director, and other staff who saw me all the time
and actually witnessed me having seizures, and nobody knew or ever said
anything to me.  I went around for years and years having seizures in
front of my family, friends, co-workers, and they never noticed anything.
After I was diagnosed and my family was educated, my hubby and kids did
notice odd things that they had thought were part of my personality or
whatever.  Your comment about not telling me you were having a seizure is
exactly what I used to do; not say a word.

Maybe I shouldn't have used the term black-out.  It's actually altered
consciousness (but that's only with the complex version and not the simple
partial seizures).  The altered consciousness is weird because it is very
difficult to concentrate on anything but the seizure.  You are quite aware
of what is going around you, but all your attention, all your energy is
focused on getting through the seizure.  It can be kind of tricky for
bystanders to tell because we might just continue doing what we were doing
before the seizure started (that was the case for me).

> Maybe I'm just being a big baby and am still trying to not admit
> they're real.

Could be.

Barb

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