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jsheeler123@yahoo.com - 02 May 2005 16:51 GMT This is my first posting. I have had epilepsy for 19 years, I am only 31 and I feel like I just exsist. I dont know anyone who is in my situation, I've had to quit working due to the amount of seizures I have, about 4-10 a week. my husband is supportive and my daughter has an understanding on why we never go anywhere alone. But I feel like a complete loser, like a freak!!!!!!!! anyone else feel like this? I have been on every medication there is, and not one has helped. I guess I needed to vent to someone who can understand where i'm coming from.
Mary Fisher - 02 May 2005 17:48 GMT > This is my first posting. I have had epilepsy for 19 years, I am only > 31 and I feel like I just exsist. I dont know anyone who is in my > situation, There are lots! That doesn't help your situation but at least you know that you're NOT a freak.
> I've had to quit working due to the amount of seizures I > have, about 4-10 a week. my husband is supportive and my daughter has > an understanding on why we never go anywhere alone. But I feel like a > complete loser, like a freak!!!!!!!! anyone else feel like this? I have > been on every medication there is, and not one has helped. I guess I > needed to vent to someone who can understand where i'm coming from. That's what the group is for. Don't go away, someone will be along in a bit to listen. You're very lucky to have a supportive husband though, some husbands (and wives) can't handle it.
Mary
Dave ©¿©¬ - 02 May 2005 18:52 GMT Howdy!
Welcome!
I was gonna' do the "Misery loves company" line but that seemed to corney - EVEN FOR ME (that's saying quite a bit!)
If you are a freak then so are all of the following people who have/had epilepsy:
Bud Abbott-(Abbott & Costello) Alexander the Great Grover Cleveland Alexander (Pro Baseball player) Dante Alighieri (wrote: Dante's Infirno) Aristotle Buddy Bell-USA (Pro Baseball player/manager) Napoleon Bonaparte Richard Burton Lindsay Buckingham (Fleetwood Mac) Lord Byron Julius Caesar Truman Capote Lewis Carroll Charles V (Emperor of Austria) Agatha Christie Ian Curtis (of the band Joy Division) Leonardo da Vinci Jonathan Davis (of the band Korn) Charles Dickens Fydor Dostoevsky Gustave Flaubert Danny Glover (actor) Sidhartha Guatama (The Buddah) Tony Greig-England (Cricket) Georg Fredrick Handel Hannibal of Carthage Margaux (Margot) Hemingway Gary Howatt-USA (Hockey) Joan of Arc Elton John Bob Jones-USA (Basketball) Florence Griffith Joyner Tony Lazzzari-USA (Baseball) Edward Lear Vladimir Ilyich Lenin Vachel Lindsay James Madison-US President Michelangelo Mohammed Jean Moliere-French playwright Isaac Newton Alfred Nobel Nicolo Paganini Saint Paul (disputed) Peter the Great Pope Pious IX Edgar Allen Poe Pythagoras Jonty Rhodes-South Africa (Cricket) Cardinal Richelieu of France Sir Walter Scott Socrates Pioter (Peter) Tchaikovksy Harriet Tubman Vincent Van Gogh Paul Wade (Australian soccer) Greg Walker-USA (Baseball) William III Neil Young So, whatever you are... you're in good company. Well... famous and/or infamous anyway!
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> > This is my first posting. I have had epilepsy for 19 years, I am only > > 31 and I feel like I just exsist. I dont know anyone who is in my [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Mary Ole Kvaal - 02 May 2005 20:53 GMT > Howdy!
> Sidhartha Guatama (The Buddah) A nice bunch of people, no doubt, but I would like to know the sources for this one (which, btw, should be Siddharta Gautama (The Buddha)). Having been a Buddhist for a very large part of my life, I can't recall ever having read anything even suggesting that Buddha was suffering from epilepsy, so this made me rather curious. Apart from that, I have often though of this list in need of comfort . . . . :-)
cheers, ole k
Mary Fisher - 02 May 2005 21:47 GMT >> Howdy! > >> Sidhartha Guatama (The Buddah) > > A nice bunch of people, no doubt, but I would like to know the sources for > this one I'd like to know the authority for all those people. Such lists always rouse my suspicions.
And Howdy Dave wasn't on it anyway!
Mary
G.Ross - 02 May 2005 23:22 GMT http://www.google.com Use that to get to line below since it won't fit on one line, but below is among 30 hits, if you ask it to search --> famous&people&epilepsy . Line below is specific search that above will get to, but is longer than text size I use that will fit on one line. It's about Google Hit number 4 or 5 of 30 it will bring in with above topics --> http://www.google.com/u/EpilepsyFoundation?q=famous+people&domains=www.epilepsyf oundation.org&sites is in there among ~30 hits, but not all the people some have asked about. Number 5 under http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/answerplace/history.cfm lists hipparchus, I'll have him email you.
******** Older comment I had written, below ******* Ya know it's easy to say 'prove that'.... and one of us can go off for 2-3 hours doing a search and come back (like I did once for someone who asked about Grapefruit and Tegretol conflict I had posted about), and they just say, "well, I don't use Tegretol anyway. I just wondered where you found that... " So I won't be searching them out. There are addresses above someone can play with. (Use a Speelcheker to find Buddha or correct spelling of Siddharta ? or you'll waste your time on searches.) G. /
>>> Howdy! >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > And Howdy Dave wasn't on it anyway! > Mary Dave ©¿©¬ - 03 May 2005 03:17 GMT Howdy!
I have a sneaking suspician that the spelling:
Sidhartha v. Sidharta depends on either language of the original text or the languages spoken by the translator. In any case, the last consinant sound is probably not used in the English language (thus the variations: t, tt, th, tth, td.)
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> http://www.google.com > Use that to get to line below since it won't fit on one line, but below > is among 30 hits, if you ask it to search --> famous&people&epilepsy . > Line below is specific search that above will get to, but is longer than > text size I use that will fit on one line. It's about Google Hit number 4 > or 5 of 30 it will bring in with above topics --> http://www.google.com/u/EpilepsyFoundation?q=famous+people&domains=www.epilepsyf oundation.org&sites
> is in there among ~30 hits, but not all the people some have asked about. > Number 5 under http://www.epilepsyfoundation.org/answerplace/history.cfm [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > And Howdy Dave wasn't on it anyway! > > Mary Patsy and Darryl - 02 May 2005 23:48 GMT One can assume it's possible that some of those on the list shouldn't be there, but that no doubt leaves many who should, and running through those names I see there are many who seem to be of above "normal" intelligence, which often seems to be the case with epileptics. So often I've seen people with epilepsy who are above average in many ways, it seems to go with the territory. Similarly, left handers often seem to be above "normal" intelligence (I'm a right hander. Damn. My father and both my sons are lefties though and they all display high intelligence).
But, to the original poster (don't know your name sorry), yes I do know how you feel. I'm a 39 year old man and have had epilepsy for 31 of those years. I don't drive and don't work and often feel like I don't contribute anything to my family as a result. I used to have up to 30 complex partials a day - normally approx 10 a day. Since brain surgery I now only have 3 - 5 a day. I've tried every medication available and none prevent the seizures. My wife is very supportive, she even posts on this newsgroup occasionally when I'm not looking.
We can choose to dwell on the fact that we have epilepsy and that there are things we can't do. We can get very depressed about it and no one would blame us, it's a sh.t of a thing to have to live with. But personally I would rather be happy than depressed. There is so much more that we can do. Life is too short to spend lamenting the woes in our lives when there's so much that's there to be enjoyed. Our seizures don't stop us experiencing love. They don't stop us having good friends. They don't prevent us enjoying the feel of sand between our toes and the sun on our faces while we lie on the beach on a sunny day. Hell, my seizures don't even stop me from sky-diving or scuba diving (with a trusted friend). Look up and smile. Life is good.
Cheers, Darryl.
>>> Howdy! >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Mary Dave ©¿©¬ - 03 May 2005 04:36 GMT Howdy!
I've collected my list from what I would call "reputable sources."
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> One can assume it's possible that some of those on the list shouldn't be > there, but that no doubt leaves many who should, and running through those [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > > > Mary Mary Fisher - 03 May 2005 09:11 GMT > Howdy! > > I've collected my list from what I would call "reputable sources." I didn't realise you were in politics...
Mary
Dave ©¿©¬ - 04 May 2005 01:22 GMT Howdy!
Yup!
Well... I used to be anyway...
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> > > Howdy! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mary Mary Fisher - 04 May 2005 10:22 GMT > Howdy! > > Yup! > > Well... I used to be anyway... Ah! It was the reference to 'reputable sources' - a dead giveaway!
Mary
Dave ©¿©¬ - 04 May 2005 22:00 GMT > > Howdy! > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Mary Well... not really "in politics"...
I worked for the State Department. (Close enough?)
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Mary Fisher - 04 May 2005 22:09 GMT >> > Howdy! >> > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I worked for the State Department. (Close enough?) Oh come on Dave! Nobody at this side of the pond understands American politics!
Mary
Dave ©¿©¬ - 05 May 2005 04:35 GMT > >> > Howdy! > >> > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Mary That's OK Mary, nobody on this side of the pond understands American politics either!
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Mary Fisher - 05 May 2005 09:22 GMT >> >> > Howdy! >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > That's OK Mary, nobody on this side of the pond understands American > politics either! Polling day has begun here today.
We're going off with the tent.
See you when it's all over ... <waves>
Mary
Malcolm - 05 May 2005 16:52 GMT >>> >> > Howdy! >>> >> > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >See you when it's all over ... <waves> I got two ballot papers today (one for county, one for parliamentary elections). With true British style they were both at the same polling station. One election was open from 7:00 - 22:00, the other was open from 8:00 - 21:00. There's mutual organisation for you ! :)
They didn't have Osama Bin Laden on the ballot paper. I thought about adding him at the bottom, but changed my mind in the nick of time
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Dave ©¿©¬ - 05 May 2005 19:34 GMT > >>> >> > Howdy! > >>> >> > [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > They didn't have Osama Bin Laden on the ballot paper. I thought about > adding him at the bottom, but changed my mind in the nick of time Vote early and vote often!
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Mary Fisher - 09 May 2005 22:08 GMT > Vote early and vote often! That's what you do when you have postal voting, allegedly.
We had it imposed on us at the last local elections but this time we had to go to the church hall and make our mark with a stub of pencil attached with a piece of string to a plywood box. Then we had to fold our paper once (NOT TWICE MADAME!) and put it in the slot in the ballot box. This year, instead of the friendly traditional battered metal boxes we've grown to know and love, we had plastic ones which looked like header tanks.
Still, I'd rather not have postal voting thank you. We can opt for it if we want it but the imposition is what we objected to.
And Osama bin Laden still got elected. By proxy.
Mary
Mary Fisher - 09 May 2005 22:04 GMT "Malcolm" <malcolm@need.to.remain.anon.ok> wrote in message
> I got two ballot papers today (one for county, one for parliamentary > elections). With true British style they were both at the same polling > station. One election was open from 7:00 - 22:00, the other was open > from 8:00 - 21:00. There's mutual organisation for you ! :) It's called joined-up-thinking in Blair's Britain.
Tell me, what time/s did you go?
Mary
Dave ©¿©¬ - 05 May 2005 19:33 GMT > >> >> > Howdy! > >> >> > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Mary Think of me when you're sitting in the tent with your beer and kilbasa!
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Mary Fisher - 09 May 2005 22:10 GMT > Think of me when you're sitting in the tent with your beer and kilbasa! No idea what kilbasa is, we had champagne.
We had a good weekend! Lots of friends, lots of good food and drink, lots of customers!
Mary
owlvee - 10 May 2005 00:55 GMT >>Think of me when you're sitting in the tent with your beer and kilbasa! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mary NO IDEA WHAT KILBASA IS???
It's kinda big pepperoni tasting hotdog/sausage with lots of fat in it!! Kind of ucky tasting (of course I have no taste!) :) How about the beer, bet it wasn't Papsts!!( :) again) ~..~ owlvee
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> >>Think of me when you're sitting in the tent with your beer and kilbasa! > > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > ~..~ > owlvee Silly girl!!!
You were going to vote at the polls, right?
Kilbasa is POL(L)ISH sausage! :)
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GeneDobry@GeneKoya.com - 10 May 2005 08:16 GMT > http://www.howdydave.com > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Kilbasa is POL(L)ISH sausage! :) Actually kielbasa _means_ sausage in Polish. It's prepared by boiling it in beer. (Vodka evaporates too quickly). You want yucky? Try, czarnina. I was told it was yummy chocolate soup, but it turned out to be made from duck blood. Or kiszka; from pigs'feet, snouts, livers, and blood. Now that's eatin' stuff, unless you're the pig.
Mary Fisher - 10 May 2005 10:33 GMT > > > No idea what kilbasa is, we had champagne. > > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > ~..~ > > owlvee Actually kielbasa _means_ sausage in Polish. It's prepared by boiling it in beer. (Vodka evaporates too quickly). You want yucky? Try, czarnina. I was told it was yummy chocolate soup, but it turned out to be made from duck blood.
That sounds interesting.
> Or kiszka; from pigs'feet, snouts, livers, and blood. So does that.
> Now that's eatin' stuff, unless you're the pig. er - I take it you don't like pig products! We'll use anything except the squeak and the curl in the tail!
Mary
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> > > > > No idea what kilbasa is, we had champagne. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Mary erm...
I think somebody's talking about cannibalism here.
Dave
Mary Fisher - 10 May 2005 10:31 GMT >>>Think of me when you're sitting in the tent with your beer and kilbasa! >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > NO IDEA WHAT KILBASA IS??? No - does that make me some kind of weirdo?
> It's kinda big pepperoni tasting hotdog/sausage with lots of fat in it!!
> sounds, er, lovely ... have you a recipe?
> How about the beer, bet it wasn't Papsts!!( :) again) No idea what that is either. I took a couple of bottles of Kelpie with us but it wasn't opened, as I said, we drank champagne. And wine.
You must remember that I'm English ... :-)
Mary
Dave ©¿©¬ - 11 May 2005 04:08 GMT > >>>Think of me when you're sitting in the tent with your beer and kilbasa! > >> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Mary Over here we cook our polish sausage in saurkraut and have it with mashed potatoes. If you want to do it right, you have to put the saurkraut on top of the mashed potatoes!
BTW: Don't forget to get the vodka out of the freezer!
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Dave ©¿©¬ - 11 May 2005 05:31 GMT > > >>>Think of me when you're sitting in the tent with your beer and kilbasa! > > >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > BTW: Don't forget to get the vodka out of the freezer! And don't forget to put some caraway seeds in the saurkraut!
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owlvee - 11 May 2005 07:12 GMT >>>>>Think of me when you're sitting in the tent with your beer and kilbasa! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > BTW: Don't forget to get the vodka out of the freezer! Vodka heh, Now my friend drinks that from the freezer as you say. I think it's "Absolut" The taters and kraut part. Now that sounds most yummy!!
Papst's is about the cheapest beer you can buy here is the states :)and still get alcohol into your system........ I'm not familiar with Kelpie but imagine since ya were drinking chamgagne, it must be equal to/above heiniken's or foster's, the more formidable name in poor man's beers/ale(?) here :)
Most important ya had a good time!!!! ~..~ owlvee
Mary Fisher - 11 May 2005 09:40 GMT > Papst's is about the cheapest beer you can buy here is the states :)and > still get alcohol into your system........ > I'm not familiar with Kelpie It's madewith seaweed. Not easy to get (a very small brewery) but I have friends in the trade ... :-)
> but imagine since ya were drinking chamgagne, it must be equal to/above > heiniken's or foster's, the more formidable name in poor man's > beers/ale(?) here :) Blech.
> Most important ya had a good time!!!! Indeed. And still haven't sorted things out since. Must get round to it ... off to pick up a monitor now because mine's died, if there are any typos in this post it's because I can't see what I'm doing.
And you think you have problems!
Mary
> ~..~ > owlvee Dave ©¿©¬ - 11 May 2005 19:17 GMT > > Papst's is about the cheapest beer you can buy here is the states :)and > > still get alcohol into your system........ [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > ~..~ > > owlvee Umm.. owlvee....
You wouldn't happen to be talking about Pabst (as in Pabst Blue Ribbon: Milwaukee) would you?
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owlvee - 11 May 2005 23:37 GMT > Umm.. owlvee.... > > You wouldn't happen to be talking about Pabst (as in Pabst Blue Ribbon: > Milwaukee) would you? > :) Yep! PBR -- Made Milwaukee famous heh, that's the one!!!! When I drank, that's the only one for me!!
(I'm a cheap skate!!!) Plus the fact I liked it too!! What did they say Budweiser and the horses that carried it??? ~..~ owlvee
Mary Fisher - 11 May 2005 23:38 GMT > What did they say Budweiser and the horses that carried it??? I don't know, what did they say Budweiser and the horses that carried it?
I don't even understand the question ...
Mary
> ~..~ > owlvee Dave ©¿©¬ - 12 May 2005 18:05 GMT > > What did they say Budweiser and the horses that carried it??? > > ~..~ > > owlvee
> I don't know, what did they say Budweiser and the horses that carried it? > > I don't even understand the question ... > > Mary Howdy Mary!
Budwiser is famous for their Clydesdale horses. I think that it has something to do with the yellow fluid coming before the beer wagon!
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Mary Fisher - 12 May 2005 18:32 GMT > Budwiser is famous for their Clydesdale horses. I think that it has > something to do with the yellow fluid coming before the beer wagon! You have Clydesdales there???
What, real ones?
Mary
Dave ©¿©¬ - 12 May 2005 22:14 GMT > > Budwiser is famous for their Clydesdale horses. I think that it has > > something to do with the yellow fluid coming before the beer wagon! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Mary Yup... real ones!
Shaggy feet and all!
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Mary Fisher - 13 May 2005 10:48 GMT >> > Budwiser is famous for their Clydesdale horses. I think that it has >> > something to do with the yellow fluid coming before the beer wagon! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Shaggy feet and all! Lots of heavy horses have feathered feet, as I understand it the 'rare breeds' of most animals you have there (which originated in Britain) are not the same, genetically, as ours. They've been 'improved'. An example is the Hereford, it's not like the Traditional Hereford we have here (we also have the improved one but it's not a Rare Breed).
Horses are even more difficult! Have a look at
http://www.clydesdalehorsesociety.com/modern.htm
It's a nice site but it won't tell you what you have unless you're an owner or breeder! People are very precious about these things :-)
Then look at
http://www.imh.org/imh/bw/clyde.html
Which might have more relevance to the ones you've seen.
I do know there's a lot of, shall we say, dispute between UK and US breeders about these things <G>
They're huge animals, I've only seen them at shows but I know that they're used for working. Not in inner city Leeds though, we don't have much call for logging and the like.
Mary
owlvee - 13 May 2005 21:31 GMT >>>You have Clydesdales there??? >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > breeds' of most animals you have there (which originated in Britain) are not > the same, genetically, as ours. They've been 'improved'. Improved!!!! How about 17,000 US dollars!!!!
"http://horsetopia.horse-for-sale.org/horseforsale.cfm/horse33108.htm"
Now that's a lot of improvement!!! I think the feathered feet would have to fly for that a "mount" heh???
:) ~..~ owlvee
Dave ©¿©¬ - 12 May 2005 18:03 GMT > > Umm.. owlvee.... > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > ~..~ > owlvee Careful now... I used to live in Milwaukee. Pabst is pretty good stuff. If you live in Milwaukee BLATZ is the cheap stuff. (Tastes like the stuff that comes out of the Budwiser horeses too!)
My favorite used to be Schmidt's of Philadelphia (before they went out of business.)
BTW: Schlitz is "The beer that made Milwaukee famous!"
Dave
owlvee - 12 May 2005 19:46 GMT >>:) >> Yep! PBR -- Made Milwaukee famous heh, that's the one!!!! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Dave Yep! You're right Dave. Sorry!!!!
:) Schmidt's was one of my second choices $$ wise though:)
And btw ain't Tetley's also a tea Mary?? I think I saw a Tetley tea bag somewhere over here????
~..~ owlvee
Mary Fisher - 12 May 2005 21:16 GMT > And btw ain't Tetley's also a tea Mary?? I think I saw a Tetley tea bag > somewhere over here???? Yes it is. I don't think the beer and tea companies are connected though - unless they're both now owned by Nestle or Kraft or Colman's or something totally unrelated to what they do - which most 'food' companies seem to be
:-( When I was in my early teens the Tetley family were patrons of the church I attended, they were nice people. I don't think the family has any link with the company any more either. The beer was good in those days, the brewery small and they made what would now be called 'Real Ale'. Spouse once went on some kind of official visit, he said it was a fantastic experience. Now the place looks like something from Quatermass.
The tea is not something we drink either, I can't comment on its quality (although I doubt that I'd enjoy it). We only drink very weak China or specialist teas. Most Yorkshire people like "A good cup of tea" by which they mean something so strong your spoon will stand up in it. The sort which takes the enamel off your teeth ...
I'm Leeds born and bred, Yorkshire to the core. But I draw the line at some things! We did have Yorkshire pudding for our dinner tonight though!
Mary
Oh - you said "over here". Does that mean you're in England? Or were? And didn't visit us???
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Dave ©¿©¬ - 11 May 2005 19:20 GMT > > Papst's is about the cheapest beer you can buy here is the states :)and > > still get alcohol into your system........ [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > ~..~ > > owlvee Ummm... Mary....
If you can't see what you are doing, how do you manage to stick relevant responses between the lines of the previous post?
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Mary Fisher - 11 May 2005 20:01 GMT >> > Papst's is about the cheapest beer you can buy here is the states :)and >> > still get alcohol into your system........ [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > If you can't see what you are doing, how do you manage to stick relevant > responses between the lines of the previous post? It's a gift.
Mary
bwes - 12 May 2005 02:39 GMT > >> > Papst's is about the cheapest beer you can buy here is the states :)and > >> > still get alcohol into your system........ [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >> > >> Blech.
I opened a can of Pabst & it smelled bad so I sent it to Springfield to get tested. The results came back, "Your horse has diabetes." By the way, the swill beer here is Huber but it's tied with Schlitz at only a buck a bottle. When I was in a bar in St. Louis there was a sign over the urinal, "Flush twice. It's a long way to Coors."
Mary Fisher - 12 May 2005 09:16 GMT I opened a can of Pabst & it smelled bad so I sent it to Springfield to get tested. The results came back, "Your horse has diabetes." By the way, the swill beer here is Huber but it's tied with Schlitz at only a buck a bottle. When I was in a bar in St. Louis there was a sign over the urinal, "Flush twice. It's a long way to Coors."
I'd like to think I'd remember those but I don't suppose I shall <sigh>
But if the brain surgery hadn't worked (at the cost of memory loss) I'd be dead and unable even to see the above :-)
Mary
Dave ©¿©¬ - 12 May 2005 18:10 GMT > I opened a can of Pabst & it smelled bad so I sent it to Springfield to > get tested. The results came back, "Your horse has diabetes." By the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mary I would think that everyplace has their own pet local brewrey that makes inferior beer.
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Mary Fisher - 12 May 2005 18:35 GMT >> I opened a can of Pabst & it smelled bad so I sent it to Springfield to >> get tested. The results came back, "Your horse has diabetes." By the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > I would think that everyplace has their own pet local brewrey that makes > inferior beer. There's certainly one in Leeds, it's enormous and it's called Tetley's - but it also makes a famous lager - can't remember which. I like lager even less than I like Tetley's! They used to use horses to deliver to city centre pubs but they're normally only seen at agricultural shows these days :-(
Mary
Dave ©¿©¬ - 12 May 2005 22:13 GMT > >> I opened a can of Pabst & it smelled bad so I sent it to Springfield to > >> get tested. The results came back, "Your horse has diabetes." By the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Mary Here it's Genesee Cream Ale!
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Ole Kvaal - 03 May 2005 12:23 GMT > But personally I would rather be happy than depressed. > There is so much more that we can do. Life is too short to spend lamenting [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Look up and smile. > Life is good. I love your attidue. Simply love it. Keep on shining!
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Mary Fisher - 03 May 2005 21:33 GMT > One can assume it's possible that some of those on the list shouldn't be > there, but that no doubt leaves many who should, and running through those > names I see there are many who seem to be of above "normal" intelligence, > which often seems to be the case with epileptics. So often I've seen > people with epilepsy who are above average in many ways, it seems to go > with the territory. Yes, but there are many people who don't have epilepsy who are above average intelligence :-)
I'm not doubting the list but I would like to know HOW the compilers know ...
> Similarly, left handers often seem to be above "normal" intelligence (I'm > a right hander. Damn. My father and both my sons are lefties though and > they all display high intelligence). You seem to have a pretty high intelligence ...
> But, to the original poster (don't know your name sorry), yes I do know > how you feel. > I'm a 39 year old man and have had epilepsy for 31 of those years. I don't > drive and don't work and often feel like I don't contribute anything to my > family as a result. Contributions aren't just financial.
> I used to have up to 30 complex partials a day - normally approx 10 a day. > Since brain surgery I now only have 3 - 5 a day. I've tried every > medication available and none prevent the seizures. My wife is very > supportive, she even posts on this newsgroup occasionally when I'm not > looking. And very welcome she is too.
> We can choose to dwell on the fact that we have epilepsy and that there > are things we can't do. We can get very depressed about it and no one > would blame us, it's a sh.t of a thing to have to live with. So are many other conditions.
> But personally I would rather be happy than depressed. Me too! Hurrah :-)
> There is so much more that we can do. Life is too short to spend lamenting > the woes in our lives when there's so much that's there to be enjoyed. Yes.
> Our seizures don't stop us experiencing love. No.
> They don't stop us having good friends. No.
> They don't prevent us enjoying the feel of sand between our toes and the > sun on our faces while we lie on the beach on a sunny day. er - I'm sure you're right. Not my idea of pleasure though :-(
> Hell, my seizures don't even stop me from sky-diving or scuba diving (with > a trusted friend). Oh.
Compared with that lying on a beach seems like bliss :-))))))))))
> Look up and smile. Yes.
> Life is good. It's even better than that most of the time.
> Cheers, > Darryl. Thanks, Darryl,
Mary
Mike H - 03 May 2005 02:17 GMT I know exactly how you feel I am 53 and have Epilepsy for 20 years. My wife and 2 kids are wonderful. But people with spouses and Kids do not understand how this illness turns your life up-side down. If you are the primary bread winner it makes income a problem and like you said if you are not then you are afraid to get a job because of the other ones seizures. A lot of AEA members and Doctors do not understand this. They say epilepsy is developing at a greater rate in mid to late age adults because the Baby Boomers are starting to age but businesses still treat you like you have a plague. Someone had better start duing something pretty soon. Mike H
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