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dorsy1943 - 21 May 2008 12:32 GMT
I have noticed that if the last of my four meals a day is a salad or
something not very high in carbs, my morning readings are often higher
than they would be if at around 8 or 9 in the evening I have a potato
or soup with grains.  I was diagnosed 17 or `18 years ago and use only
diet and exercise to control blood sugar.

Usually my fasting readings are somewhere in the 90's with a low carb
meal at around 8 or 9 o'clock the  night before.  Last night I had a
lot of soup with oatmeal and whole wheat cous cous in it along with
vegetables.  This morning my reading was 76.  This does not occur
every time I eat higher carb and it is hard to know exactly what kind
and amount of food will produce a particular result.  I suspect that
sometimes it depends on what else I have eaten the day before and how
much exercise I get.

Do you think this means that I was producing too much insulin for the
morning reading to have been so low?  I am wondering if it is better
to eat very low carb in the evening and have a higher fasting
reading.  Any opinions would be appreciated.  (If only we could test
our insulin like we test our blood sugar.)

Dolores
Cindy Wells - 21 May 2008 13:20 GMT
dorsy1943 <dtms69@usadatanet.net> wrote in news:e7d90687-7d8a-4eb2-80df-
250a0ec0828c@z16g2000prn.googlegroups.com:

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> Do you think this means that I was producing too much insulin for the
> morning reading to have been so low?  I am wondering if it is better
> to eat very low carb in the evening and have a higher fasting
> reading.  Any opinions would be appreciated.  (If only we could test
> our insulin like we test our blood sugar.)

I would suggest you check your bg at various times overnight. A
different explanation could be on your low-carb evenings you go low
overnight and then get the over-correction from a liver dump (and then
add the dawn phenomenon). Of course exercise complicates the tracking.

Cindy Wells
(It's never simple, for any of us. My bg this week is probably all over
the map and I'm not going to test. I live on a hay farm and it's baling
time. Excess exercise and dehydration gives weird results any way so
I'll eat a bit more snacks and try to keep up the fluids.)

> Dolores
Tehmina - 21 May 2008 16:21 GMT
> dorsy1943 <dtm...@usadatanet.net> wrote in news:e7d90687-7d8a-4eb2-80df-
> 250a0ec08...@z16g2000prn.googlegroups.com:
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>
> > Dolores

Any thing between 70 to 100 in the fasting is normal.
If your levels all below 65 then its condition called hypoglycemia.
Eating low carbohydrate diet rich in fiber is good for diabetics.
Eat fresh fruits and vegetables in moderation.
Increase the potassium intake (banana, apricots and tomato) as lack of
potassium is also a cause diabetes
visit http://www.reddiabetes.com for complete information on every
aspect of diabetes.
Alan S - 21 May 2008 23:36 GMT
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Nicky - 21 May 2008 19:23 GMT
>Do you think this means that I was producing too much insulin for the
>morning reading to have been so low?  I am wondering if it is better
>to eat very low carb in the evening and have a higher fasting
>reading.  Any opinions would be appreciated.  (If only we could test
>our insulin like we test our blood sugar.)

Yeah, I'd LOVE an insulin meter <sigh>...

Sounds to me like you're liver dumping. What if you tried a
compromise, and had a relatively low-carb but high protein snack in
the evening? Maybe potato skins with cheese, kind of thing? The idea
is that the protein breaks down to glucose much slower, and so there's
some glucose around when the liver does a status check in the early
hours of the morning. I used to use a handful of nuts and a glass of
wine to achieve the same thing; wine also slows everything down.

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25
dorsy1943 - 21 May 2008 19:46 GMT
> On Wed, 21 May 2008 04:32:38 -0700 (PDT), dorsy1943
>
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> D&E, 100ug thyroxine
> Last A1c 5.6%  BMI 25

thanks to all.  I was reading a reference cited on another group that
the insulin produced by eating carbs and protein together is a larger
amount than that which is the result of eating either carbs alone or
protein alone.   It occurs to me that if this is happening and you
find a lower blood sugar when you eat protein with carb then maybe it
is because there is more insulin present, not just because the protein
does not raise blood sugar very much.

I do not low carb but I also do not eat much more than a serving of
potato or bread or pasta or rice at each meal.  I also eat fruit. Low
fat but not unreasonably low as I eat some nuts and seeds a teaspoon
or so of olive oil on salads and canned wild salmon.  I do not
remember the reason but someone elsewhere claimed it is very bad to
eat protein and vegetables with very low fat.  My daughter was on such
a diet supervised by a doctor and she had very very little fat, but
did eat eggs and lean meat and vegetables but no starchy vegies or
grains and no sugar.

Dolores
 
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