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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / May 2008MHD???
I persoally wish MHD would be more active with the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining enough. ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- > I persoally wish MHD would be more active with > the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining > enough. How many techies have we got left? All the ones I'm thinking of are gone. > I persoally wish MHD would be more active with > the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining > enough. In the almost 10 years that I have been subscribed to MHD it has never been a wildly active group but it still has some good stuff to chew over. >> I persoally wish MHD would be more active with >> the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining >> enough. > > In the almost 10 years that I have been subscribed to MHD it has never > been a wildly active group but it still has some good stuff to chew over. In the years after I started in 1995 there were often a hundred posts a day. including the usual spam, of course. The number of posts went down drastically when different groups, including ASD, emerged. MHD is where I got my initial good info. I'll never forget that. Henry Mydlarz. >MHD is where I got my initial good info. I'll never forget that. > >Henry Mydlarz. Same here. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter. and Cambodia http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html >>> I persoally wish MHD would be more active with >>> the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >MHD is where I got my initial good info. I'll never forget that. My impression having downloaded back to 2003/4 is that mhd was the group where techies and predominantly Type 1s hung out. Problem is, there's about the same amount of spam as asd (and many other groups) but fewer posts which makes the signal to noise (or noise to signal) ratio look appalling. >>>> I persoally wish MHD would be more active with >>>> the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > other groups) but fewer posts which makes the signal to noise (or > noise to signal) ratio look appalling. When I first started here the folk tried to keep the two main groups separated. People looking for support were shown to ASD to leave MHD operating according to a misc hierarchy. Over time it became blended and for whatever reason some techie posters backed away. Some current posters still try to stick with a separation. >>>>> I persoally wish MHD would be more active with >>>>> the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > for whatever reason some techie posters backed away. Some current posters > still try to stick with a separation. My opinion is that trying to keep two newsgroups separated, or trying to argue that one is different to the other, is like trying to maintain that people are different on one side of the street to the other. The end result of having two or three medical-oriented newsgroups dealing with a specific subject is that good information may be split between them, and people who find and look at only one of the newsgroups will see only some of the information. Henry Mydlarz >>>>>> I persoally wish MHD would be more active with >>>>>> the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Henry Mydlarz For me, it just means that I have to subscribe to all the useful diabetic newsgroups, instead of just one newsgroup. Of course, since I'm retired, I seldom have a problem with finding time to read them all. >>>>>>> I persoally wish MHD would be more active with >>>>>>> the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > newsgroups, instead of just one newsgroup. Of course, since I'm retired, > I seldom have a problem with finding time to read them all. Actually my problem is that I do have a job, and between that and staying active (bike riding and work around the house) I have little time to spend on the newsgroups.. Also, some members of my family have stereotyped me as spending most of my time on the computer, which I do not. As I'm writing this, I am very much aware I just seem to have contradicted my previous note. Basically, though, all I try is to "sneak in" a post here and there, and scan through the newsgroups. Over the years I have been very thankful for people such as yourself and others, who do have more time, and who have devoted it to helping others, on whichever newsgroup you post. This is why my diabetes management has become more pro-active. This is what is helping me to survive. Henry Mydlarz >>> Problem is, there's about the same amount of spam as asd (and many >>> other groups) but fewer posts which makes the signal to noise (or [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Henry Mydlarz Yep. What he said. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter. and Cambodia http://loraltravel.blogspot.com/2008/03/cambodia.html >>>> Problem is, there's about the same amount of spam as asd (and many >>>> other groups) but fewer posts which makes the signal to noise (or [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg >Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. The original group was MHD. It was formed by a group of experts that saw there was a need. Need is an understatement, Various splinter groups were formed over a time. Several looked good but changed to a pure lo carb and moderated. My first post was in response to a "nurse" told someone that had a lot of radiation was harmless. It was junky and poor so I have not changed. ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- > My first post was in response to a "nurse" told someone that > had a lot of radiation was harmless. It was junky > and poor so I have not changed. Well, relatively harmless, if you use sunscreen judiciously. Infared would be harmless, I would think. Priscilla >> My first post was in response to a "nurse" told someone that >> had a lot of radiation was harmless. It was junky [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Infared would be harmless, I would think. In the distant past, Guy has revealed that this is not any kind of solar radiation.  SignatureWes Groleau Genealogical Lookups: http://groleau.freeshell.org/ref/lookups.shtml >>> My first post was in response to a "nurse" told someone that >>> had a lot of radiation was harmless. It was junky [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >In the distant past, Guy has revealed that this is >not any kind of solar radiation. The medic that works on my burns has cancer. He gets radiation and chemo for a cancer. The paradox is that "radiation" of short wave lengths can cause cancer/ It can be used to destroy cancer cells which are growing fast and will be more easily destroyed by radiation. "The proper radiation" ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- >> My first post was in response to a "nurse" told someone that >> had a lot of radiation was harmless. It was junky [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Priscilla Radiation covers the whole spectrum, including sound amd ocean waves. The fellow asking the question to our "expert" had been exposed to gross xrays which does harm in any case. It is another case of benefit/harm. Some medical people are remarkedly ignorant in this area. I worked with six physicists, all in their later 20/s. They all had advanced degrees. They all worked on a high energy xray project. ALL died of cancer before they were 35 years old. Cavalier use of many types of medical equipment can do great harm. I recenty had considerable xray exposure for medical tests. I do not worry, because of my old age and the benefits from the exposure, It probably prevented a bunch of pills. ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- > Some medical people are remarkedly ignorant in this area. Long long ago, several patients were killed or injured by excess radiation from a treatment device. The manufacturer of the device had not considered how fast a trained operator could be with lots of experience. In the real world, an operator would type the limit into the on-screen text field, but did not realize that by too-quickly filling in the next field, they had interrupted the subroutine that translated the numbers into machine settings. People make mistakes. But mistakes are not all created equal. SignatureWes Groleau Words of the Wild Wes(t) = http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/WWW >> Some medical people are remarkedly ignorant in this area. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >People make mistakes. But mistakes are not all created equal. Wes, the operators of any of this equipment must be careful since they are getting some exposure every day. A lot has been done to control this area. What I see is that the danger is not immediate, so many become careless. The cold war probably did a lot of harm as the fallout of tests was every where. I do know we could measure the increase in our lab. Some time in the future, the real story will emerge. ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- >I worked with six physicists, all in their later 20/s. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >ALL died of cancer before they were 35 years old. I was a radar technician for a period before I went back to school to become an engineer. At one stage I spent eight hours a day monitoring a search radar paramagnetic amplifier which tended to overload; when it did I had to adjust it by hand with my arm inside the operating 50kw radar. Of course, the Defence Department sees no relationship between that period, or the other 20 years in the RAAF as a radio tech and later a radio engineer, and my leukemia. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -- d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com http://loraltravel.blogspot.com Latest: Bangkok >>I worked with six physicists, all in their later 20/s. >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. A nice guy named Jack Cherry was in charge of measurement of fire ball specimens. He developed Leukemia at age 48 and died---- supposedly had a form that only showed up in children. I was one of the crew of three that recovered these specimens. The defense departments are noted for their claims. ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- >>>I worked with six physicists, all in their later 20/s. >>> [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >of three that recovered these specimens. The defense departments >are noted for their claims. Yep. I'm starting to think that the staff of all the DoD's and VA departments involved with veteran's claims around the world go to the same training academy:-) At least here we do have one advantage; our VA covers medical for ALL forms of cancer regardless of cause. They won't give a pension but do cover medical - which can be an enormous saving. Don't tell my guv'mint though or the bean-counters will cancel that. Cheers, Alan >>>>I worked with six physicists, all in their later 20/s. >>>> [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >enormous saving. Don't tell my guv'mint though or the >bean-counters will cancel that. Here there have been some rather suspicious clusters of leukemia in the vicinity of nuclear power stations and other such installations. Of course the government says there is no connection - but then they would wouldn't they? >>>>>I worked with six physicists, all in their later 20/s. >>>>> [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >Of course the government says there is no connection - but then they >would wouldn't they? We must realize that some leaders have no concern for humans, The "cause" is all important, So lying is a part of leadership. The fellow that induced me to undertake a dangerous mission was a very pious person that went not a rage at the least profanity. He went out of his way to say I would receive full support in any eventuality. A few years later when one that was exposed died of Leukemia I was told he consulted the statue of limitations and destroy all of the records. Nuclear radiation is a mystery to most so a lot of fiction develops. I do not know the answer on very minor exposures. I do know all of us are hit by cosmic rays very often. These items do gross damage to cells. We do have some tolerance as evidenced by our existence. The SOB syndrome is the problem. They would kill you to sell body parts if they could get away with it. But could rationalize any behavior. Some time in the future the real story will be told. The cold war left a lot of victims. We never learn. It is called the Lemming effect. I prefer to view the world as these groups perform at times. People working together to make a common good. ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- >>>>>> I worked with six physicists, all in their later 20/s. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > all of us are hit by cosmic rays very often. These items do gross > damage to cells. My uncle lied about his age so he could go to war, he was amongst one of the first platoons to walk into either Nagasaki or Hiroshima right after the bombs. He was in his mid teens. He suffered very unusual tumours and skin cancers all his life and a debilitating disease that he was struck down with early in life, one more common in older people. >>>>>>> I worked with six physicists, all in their later 20/s. >>>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] >cancers all his life and a debilitating disease that he was struck down with >early in life, one more common in older people. Ii did notice the alarm after the weapons hit Japan. Then as the cold war emerges the stories of no harm become dominant. We will never know. I was told that if the truth emerged the country would be bankrupt. and there would not be anyone to build or deliver the weapons. I remember when a group of senior scientists proposed that people over the age of 50 be used for the work. Then any effects would be beyond their life expectancy. My concern over weapons are much greater than the public. Seen the damage done up close. The hope is you are close to GZ and the neutron burst will boil your brain in microseconds. I do support nuclear energy-----properly done ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- On Mon, 26 May 2008 16:49:44 -0500, guys wrote: > The SOB syndrome is the problem. They would kill you to > sell body parts if they could get away with it. But could > rationalize any behavior. We are moving that way here. Everyone is going to be labeled an organ donor unless they are specifically told otherwise. >>>>>>I worked with six physicists, all in their later 20/s. >>>>>> [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >damage to cells. We do have some tolerance as evidenced by >our existence. Yes there are a lot of factors, in some areas radon emanates out of the ground and collects in buildings, even burning coal releases radioactive particles into the atmosphere. Then there have been suspicions that proximity to extra high voltage electric cables and their emf over long periods may have effects. The suspicious bit was the "explanation" for leukemia clusters near a couple of nuclear installations: they were built by large numbers of labourers imported into the area and crewed by incomers and it was the fact that these people had travelled and collected together that caused the leukemia . . . . . . well that is certainly the explanation for clusters of meningitis which often hit colleges at the start of the year - people inporting bacteria from areas where they are endemic and spreading them - but LEUKEMIA??? Then motorways factories and industrial estates are similarly built by imported labour and crewed by incomers and they *don't* have leukemia clusters You don;t have to see the cow's arse to know bullshit >The SOB syndrome is the problem. They would kill you to >sell body parts if they could get away with it. But could [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >war left a lot of victims. We never learn. It is called the Lemming >effect. Yep >>>> I persoally wish MHD would be more active with >>>> the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > other groups) but fewer posts which makes the signal to noise (or > noise to signal) ratio look appalling. Unfortunately as with any newsgroup on the usenet, there's nothing to stop anyone - be it a 12 year old kid or a scammer - from posting. I recall the first week I looked at MHD - there was a furious interchange of spam and counter offensive about aspartame..... Nevertheless, there was a lot of good information... Henry Mydlarz > I persoally wish MHD would be more active with > the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining > enough. That's why I post the technical information I find to MHD, even though I usually crosspost it to ASD. >> I persoally wish MHD would be more active with >> the technical aspects. Guess it is not entertaining >> enough. >> >That's why I post the technical information I find to >MHD, even though I usually crosspost it to ASD. Likewise. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. |
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