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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / October 2003Hospital infections?
Prime Time had a feature tonight on hospital infections. Several years ago this issue was raised on this group. Several of us were not happy campers on this issue. It is something that many of you will face in the future. Some of us think we need to return to the level of control that was common in per antibiotic days. Another issue is in this day of "get rich litigation", it is almost necessary to coverup of problems in heath care. Be honest and go broke. Many diabetics will face hospitalization in the future, compared to other people. Another issue is the proper use of insulin while a diabetic is under care. Not a happy camper on that issue. Guy I learned from reading this group that you need to take charge of your insulin when in the hospital and doing that prevented problems for both my husband and daughter when they have been in the hospital. Heather http://www.execulink.com/~craig/diabetictag.html http://www.execulink.com/~craig/pouches.htm > Prime Time had a feature tonight on hospital infections. > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Guy Guy, One of the most simiple practices that the care providers can do in the hospital situration or any other for that matter is: wash their hands before touching you...I demand that they do this. When I was in nurses training that was one of the most important steps that we took ( that was 32 years ago). I have observed many nurses etc that don't even think of it. Another source is using the stethocope on many people without cleaning it, or having a cover to change so the bugs don't go from one person to another. As you see my sig line, it applies to all sorts of things. As for insulin and diabetic control (I've said this before) they don't have a clue as to what to do, or how to do it. I have my doc write an order that I can manage my own diabetic care and use my own supplies. We must all be our own advocates in our care, no matter, where we are. Mic Always, be, and stay AWARE! > Prime Time had a feature tonight on hospital infections. > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > a diabetic is under care. Not a happy camper > on that issue. On the insulin subject, on the occasions where I've been an inmate at hospital, I've kept control of all my diabetic needs myself. I wouldn't trust anyone to "do it like Beav" so I don't let them even try. Even in a "Sue City" they can't take control off you unless you're incapable of doing it yourself. Beav Re: Hospital infections? On the insulin subject, on the occasions where I've been an inmate at hospital, I've kept control of all my diabetic needs myself. I wouldn't trust anyone to "do it like Beav" so I don't let them even try. Even in a "Sue City" they can't take control off you unless you're incapable of doing it yourself. Beav xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx they were not going to let me test my self or let me give my self shots. well that changed in a hurry. i was at least nice enough to tell them my readings and also letting them know how much i shot up. they did not like it and i could have cared less. case the case, minus a few cans! >Re: Hospital infections? > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >the case, minus a few cans! It has been over five years but still am upset over the handling of insulin. My wife came in and I was obviously have a hypo and it was getting severe , The nurse came with a needle going to give me insulin. Dr. Orders. Nice I had a mean Latin wife. ^The rote illogical way of doing things leaves me cold. A doctor tells me it is part of the medical legal game. If he use his common sense and deviates at all he may get sued and lose. Something for a support group to discuss with some medical people present. At stages of my hospitalization I was not in good shape. I think this is a good issue. If you are prepared, you can setup things to prevent some things we see happening. The whole issue is a current issue with me. Do not want to go back. Even my last 911 run they sent my blood sugars very high with the dextrose. No ones fault but a systemic problem. I just "love systems". don't let facts change anything. Guy > It has been over five years but still am upset > over the handling of insulin. My wife came > in and I was obviously have a hypo and it was > getting severe , The nurse came with a needle going to give > me insulin. Dr. Orders. Nice I had a mean Latin wife. A friend of mine was getting IV antibiotics on an inpatient basis in a subcritical care facility (not a hospital). At the time, she had steroid-induced diabetes, following brain surgery (the steroids were needed to control swelling). The nurses were doing all the diabetes management, including insulin injections, for her. At one point, she rang and said she was *very* hungry; since it wasn't meal time, they had nothing to give her. When she was telling me the story (after she was off the steroids and the insulin), she added that she later found out her blood sugar was quite low at the time. Turns out that the medical staff that was "managing" her blood sugar didn't have a clue how to do so, despite her utter and complete faith in them.  SignatureAF > Re: Hospital infections? > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > they were not going to let me test my self or let me give my self shots. > well that changed in a hurry. The staff in hospitals always think they can do better, but they usually buckle if they get the idea that it's likely to be less problematic to let "the patient" carry on. At least that's been my experience. > i was at least nice enough to tell them my readings and also letting > them know how much i shot up. I let them do their own tests and if nothing else, it was good for a laugh. The nurse would wheel the trolley in with all her "bits and pieces" and I'd do a quick (Accu-chek Active) test. When she came to me, I'd just hold up a finger and squeeze out a drop of blood. (No sticking). THAT raised her eyebrows, but even better was when I said "That's going to be 4.6, or 5.1" (whichever my own meter showed:-) When it DID, her face was a picture. She asked me on more than a few occasions how I did the blood drop thing and how I knew what the reading would be, and I just said "Experience babe, just ecperience" :-) > they did not like it and i could have cared less. I just told the doc's on admission that they had two choices. Either *I* looked after my diabetes or I did:-) They've all asked me a few questions, obviously to see if I was capable of controlling it, and seemed satisfied I was. The trouble came after I was on the ward and the nurses wanted to take over. They soon learned too and like you, I thought if they didn't like it...tough. Beav |
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