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avenue10@gmail.com - 28 Aug 2006 16:07 GMT
Hi all,

I've been hearing about cinnamon and it's potential to reduce blood
sugar. About three months ago, I started taking some cinnamon at dinner
time. I started with less than 1/2 teaspoon, but eventually worked my
way up to 1/2 a teaspoon. This is the common cinnamon powder you buy at
the grocery store (USA).

I noticed a very positive and gradual lowering of my fasting blood
glucose in the mornings in the first month. I was really amazed that it
was working.

For the first month, the BG readings came down. Then it stabilized with
a very good score range in the second month. However, since the
beginning of the third month it started with some minor fluctuations
up, which then came down again. Then it started going up gradually.
Sometimes I would get scores similar to my second month readings, but
the trend was up in the third month.

So, for the last two weeks or so, I upped my cinnamon intake to 1/2 a
teaspoon at each meal. Still, it doesn't seem to be going down, or at
least not to my second month readings' ranges. I haven't altered my
diet drastically, and I have cut out red wine (which I did drink during
month one and two). I would have thought that this at least should give
me scores that I got during my second month (very good scores).

Is it possible for the cinnamon effects to wear off? Is this what's
happening and has anyone else had this experience before?

Thanks.

Daniel
Nicky - 28 Aug 2006 17:56 GMT
> So, for the last two weeks or so, I upped my cinnamon intake to 1/2 a
> teaspoon at each meal. Still, it doesn't seem to be going down, or at
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> Is it possible for the cinnamon effects to wear off? Is this what's
> happening and has anyone else had this experience before?

I chuck cinnamon into my breakfast cereal and into curries because I like
the taste; it never did anything to my bg levels. Wine, on the other hand,
reliably lowers my pp if I have a glass with a meal, and my fbg if I have a
bedtime glass. YMMV.

Nicky.

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NumOneAunt - 28 Aug 2006 20:10 GMT
Hi,
I noticed the same thing with my levels. My endocrinologist told me (and
backed it up with research - he was a researcher at Rockefeller University in
NYC) that above a certain amount, there is no benefit for your sugar levels.
But! there is some good news - the increase in cinnamon can help triglcerides
and  ... something else - I can't remember. So hey - why not take it? I
actually take capsules - they seem to be easier on the stomach.

Good luck!

>Hi all,
>
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>
>Daniel

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Jenny - 28 Aug 2006 20:58 GMT
,
> Is it possible for the cinnamon effects to wear off? Is this what's
> happening and has anyone else had this experience before?

The question you have to ask is this: how high were your blood sugars
during this period.  If they were lower than they used to be, but still
much higher than normal (i.e. fasting over 110 mg/dl), your beta cells
are still being damaged. By the time you get a Type 2 diabetes diagnosis
you may have lost as much as 80% of those beta cells, and with each
passing month that blood sugars stay over normal, more of them die. As
they die blood sugars deteriorate.

So unless you have been running very normal blood sugars all the time,
the cinnamon may have only slowed down the deterioration.

FWIW, cinnamon gave me some serious and very unexpected highs followed
by lower numbers, and I stopped using it because I figured those highs
were causing more damage than I wanted to have to deal with.

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Alan S - 29 Aug 2006 00:18 GMT
>So, for the last two weeks or so, I upped my cinnamon intake to 1/2 a
>teaspoon at each meal. Still, it doesn't seem to be going down, or at
>least not to my second month readings' ranges. I haven't altered my
>diet drastically, and I have cut out red wine (which I did drink during
>month one and two). I would have thought that this at least should give
>me scores that I got during my second month (very good scores).

First, I have cinnamon in my morning coffee. The only way
that affected my BGs was that it replaced the milk - and it
was the milk that was raising my morning post-prandials at
that time. Some, but very few, people here have reported
improvements with cinnamon but it was a slight improvement
at best. The only studies that I am aware of originated in
Pakistan; not a highly credible medical research source IMO.

Has it occurred to you that your increase started at the
same time as you cut out the wine? I have never claimed that
red  wine reduces BGs - but it certainly doesn't raise them
unless you are drinking fortified or sweet reds such as
Port.

You say that your diet didn't change - what is it usually
and what are your post-prandial numbers?

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Jason Johnson - 29 Aug 2006 03:46 GMT
On 28 Aug 2006 08:07:31 -0700, avenue10@gmail.com wrote:

>So, for the last two weeks or so, I upped my cinnamon intake to 1/2 a
>teaspoon at each meal. Still, it doesn't seem to be going down, or at
>least not to my second month readings' ranges. I haven't altered my
>diet drastically, and I have cut out red wine (which I did drink during
>month one and two). I would have thought that this at least should give
>me scores that I got during my second month (very good scores).

First, I have cinnamon in my morning coffee. The only way
that affected my BGs was that it replaced the milk - and it
was the milk that was raising my morning post-prandials at
that time. Some, but very few, people here have reported
improvements with cinnamon but it was a slight improvement
at best. The only studies that I am aware of originated in
Pakistan; not a highly credible medical research source IMO.

Has it occurred to you that your increase started at the
same time as you cut out the wine? I have never claimed that
red  wine reduces BGs - but it certainly doesn't raise them
unless you are drinking fortified or sweet reds such as
Port.

You say that your diet didn't change - what is it usually
and what are your post-prandial numbers?

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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Hello,
I just read an article in the Sept. issue of "Alternative" (magazine)
indicating that the following three items can help regulate blood glucose
levels by bootsting production of insulin or by slowing the absorption of
sugar from
the intestine:
1. Gymnema
2. Cinnamon
3. American Ginseng

website: www.alternativemedicine.com
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Julie Bove - 29 Aug 2006 08:31 GMT
> Hi all,
>
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> Sometimes I would get scores similar to my second month readings, but
> the trend was up in the third month.

Keep in mind that diabetes is a progressive disease.

> So, for the last two weeks or so, I upped my cinnamon intake to 1/2 a
> teaspoon at each meal. Still, it doesn't seem to be going down, or at
> least not to my second month readings' ranges. I haven't altered my
> diet drastically, and I have cut out red wine (which I did drink during
> month one and two). I would have thought that this at least should give
> me scores that I got during my second month (very good scores).

Cinnamon raised my BG very badly.  I stopped taking it and my numbers came
down.  Also, red wine will lower your BG.

> Is it possible for the cinnamon effects to wear off? Is this what's
> happening and has anyone else had this experience before?

Could be.  Don't know.

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Nan - 30 Aug 2006 22:35 GMT
You'll find the old YMMV (your mileage may vary) response to cinnamon.
Some find it helpful, some find it harmful.  Some - like me - just like
it and since it doesn't seem to make a difference to my blood sugar, I
have a piece of broken cinnamon stick in my instant coffee every
morning.  Reduces my craving for sugar and makes the aspertame taste
better!    (Swedish sweet tooth!)
Nan, Type 2

> > Hi all,
> >
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>
> Could be.  Don't know.
Alan S - 31 Aug 2006 02:23 GMT
>You'll find the old YMMV (your mileage may vary) response to cinnamon.
>Some find it helpful, some find it harmful.  Some - like me - just like
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>better!    (Swedish sweet tooth!)
>Nan, Type 2

Did I get that idea from you or the other way around?
Instant coffee? Nan - have your tastebuds disappeared? :-))
I crumble a piece of quill into my mini-one-cup-espresso
thing.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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