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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / July 2006DIABETES AND DEPLETED URANIUM
Diabetes and depleted uranium Italian embassy refuses visa By Bob Nichols San Framcisco Bay View June 29, 2006 - "You are not being truthful about the purpose of your visit to Italy. What is your interest in diabetes and depleted uranium?" the Italian consul in Bombay demanded to know. "I am just traveling to Italy to meet with Leuren Moret," the famous Indian doctor answered. Leuren Moret recounted the episode in an interview June 29, 2006. She said, "The doctor had never mentioned either diabetes or depleted uranium." The Italian government official was grilling one of the leading doctors in India. This "interview" at the Italian embassy took place June 27, 2006, in Bombay, India. The doctor had traveled to Italy several times before and did not expect such outrageous treatment. The consul denied the doctor permission to travel to Italy to meet with Moret. The doctor had said nothing about diabetes and nothing about depleted uranium. The embassy official had just let the cat out of the bag and confirmed the link between the global epidemic of diabetes and the use of depleted uranium by the U.S.-U.K. expeditionary forces in Iraq, Afghanistan and the former Yugoslavia. The official could only have known about the diabetes link to depleted uranium from the U.S. State Department and the source of it all: the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab, "managed" for 61 years by the University of California. The University of California nuclear weapons labs are the core of the nuclear weapons program in the U.S., the only remaining superpower. The clumsy intervention by a superpower in the travel plans of a private individual to confer with a scientific colleague about global public health concerns highlights the explosive significance that the U.S. attaches to uncontrolled information about the global epidemic of diabetes. On May 29, Moret charged the University of California and the Los Alamos and Livermore Nuclear Weapons Labs with engineering the largest global increase of diabetes in history and trying to cover it up. Fine uranium dust, vaporized into a poison radioactive gas by exploding uranium bombs, missiles and bullets, hitches a ride on dry desert winds to circle the globe in days. Dr. Chris Busby, a leading British radiation expert, got data from a nuclear weapons air monitoring facility at Aldemaston, England, which identified depleted uranium in the British atmosphere only nine days after the "shock and awe" carpet bombing of Baghdad, started in March of 2003. Bob Nichols is a Project Censored Award winner. He is a correspondent for the San Francisco Bay View newspaper and a frequent contributor to various online publications. Nichols is completing a book based on 15 years of nuclear war in Central Asia. He is a former employee of the McAlester Army Ammunition Plant. Nichols can be reached by email, and readers are encouraged to write to him at DUweapons@gmail.com. [Caption] Tanks destroyed by depleted uranium munitions litter Iraq, but these children are not warned that by playing in the ruins they are exposing themselves to diseases that may plague them all their lives and deform their future children. Photo: Dahr Jamail, www.dahrjamailiraq.com More at: http://www.sfbayview.com/062806/dd062806.shtml Jai Maharaj http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti Hindu Holocaust Museum http://www.mantra.com/holocaust Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy http://www.hindu.org http://www.hindunet.org The truth about Islam and Muslims http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article. FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > Diabetes and depleted uranium > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > diabetes and depleted uranium?" the Italian consul in > Bombay demanded to know. <snip> >The doctor had said nothing about diabetes and nothing >about depleted uranium. The embassy official had just let >the cat out of the bag and confirmed the link between the >global epidemic of diabetes and the use of depleted >uranium by the U.S.-U.K. expeditionary forces in Iraq, >Afghanistan and the former Yugoslavia. Italy's refusing entry of anyone does not confirm a link between diabetes and the use of depleted uranium any more than it links any given quasar with toenail fungus. There is no hint of science in your bullshit news story post. Please keep such crap out of sci.med. Diabetes and depleted uranium Italian embassy refuses visa By Bob Nichols San Framcisco Bay View June 29, 2006 - "You are not being truthful about the purpose of your visit to Italy. What is your interest in diabetes and depleted uranium?" the Italian consul in Bombay demanded to know. "I am just traveling to Italy to meet with Leuren Moret," the famous Indian doctor answered. Leuren Moret recounted the episode in an interview June 29, 2006. She said, "The doctor had never mentioned either diabetes or depleted uranium." The Italian government official was grilling one of the leading doctors in India. This "interview" at the Italian embassy took place June 27, 2006, in Bombay, India. The doctor had traveled to Italy several times before and did not expect such outrageous treatment. The consul denied the doctor permission to travel to Italy to meet with Moret. The doctor had said nothing about diabetes and nothing about depleted uranium. The embassy official had just let the cat out of the bag and confirmed the link between the global epidemic of diabetes and the use of depleted uranium by the U.S.-U.K. expeditionary forces in Iraq, Afghanistan and the former Yugoslavia. The official could only have known about the diabetes link to depleted uranium from the U.S. State Department and the source of it all: the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab, "managed" for 61 years by the University of California. The University of California nuclear weapons labs are the core of the nuclear weapons program in the U.S., the only remaining superpower. The clumsy intervention by a superpower in the travel plans of a private individual to confer with a scientific colleague about global public health concerns highlights the explosive significance that the U.S. attaches to uncontrolled information about the global epidemic of diabetes. On May 29, Moret charged the University of California and the Los Alamos and Livermore Nuclear Weapons Labs with engineering the largest global increase of diabetes in history and trying to cover it up. Fine uranium dust, vaporized into a poison radioactive gas by exploding uranium bombs, missiles and bullets, hitches a ride on dry desert winds to circle the globe in days. Dr. Chris Busby, a leading British radiation expert, got data from a nuclear weapons air monitoring facility at Aldemaston, England, which identified depleted uranium in the British atmosphere only nine days after the "shock and awe" carpet bombing of Baghdad, started in March of 2003. Bob Nichols is a Project Censored Award winner. He is a correspondent for the San Francisco Bay View newspaper and a frequent contributor to various online publications. Nichols is completing a book based on 15 years of nuclear war in Central Asia. He is a former employee of the McAlester Army Ammunition Plant. Nichols can be reached by email, and readers are encouraged to write to him at DUweapons@gmail.com. [Caption] Tanks destroyed by depleted uranium munitions litter Iraq, but these children are not warned that by playing in the ruins they are exposing themselves to diseases that may plague them all their lives and deform their future children. Photo: Dahr Jamail, www.dahrjamailiraq.com More at: http://www.sfbayview.com/062806/dd062806.shtml Jai Maharaj http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti Hindu Holocaust Museum http://www.mantra.com/holocaust Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy http://www.hindu.org http://www.hindunet.org The truth about Islam and Muslims http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article. FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. repeated, your crap is just as off topic as it was the first time. There is no hint of science in your bullshit news story post. Please keep such crap out of sci.med. idiot. Diabetes and depleted uranium Italian embassy refuses visa By Bob Nichols San Framcisco Bay View June 29, 2006 - "You are not being truthful about the purpose of your visit to Italy. What is your interest in diabetes and depleted uranium?" the Italian consul in Bombay demanded to know. "I am just traveling to Italy to meet with Leuren Moret," the famous Indian doctor answered. Leuren Moret recounted the episode in an interview June 29, 2006. She said, "The doctor had never mentioned either diabetes or depleted uranium." The Italian government official was grilling one of the leading doctors in India. This "interview" at the Italian embassy took place June 27, 2006, in Bombay, India. The doctor had traveled to Italy several times before and did not expect such outrageous treatment. The consul denied the doctor permission to travel to Italy to meet with Moret. The doctor had said nothing about diabetes and nothing about depleted uranium. The embassy official had just let the cat out of the bag and confirmed the link between the global epidemic of diabetes and the use of depleted uranium by the U.S.-U.K. expeditionary forces in Iraq, Afghanistan and the former Yugoslavia. The official could only have known about the diabetes link to depleted uranium from the U.S. State Department and the source of it all: the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab, "managed" for 61 years by the University of California. The University of California nuclear weapons labs are the core of the nuclear weapons program in the U.S., the only remaining superpower. The clumsy intervention by a superpower in the travel plans of a private individual to confer with a scientific colleague about global public health concerns highlights the explosive significance that the U.S. attaches to uncontrolled information about the global epidemic of diabetes. On May 29, Moret charged the University of California and the Los Alamos and Livermore Nuclear Weapons Labs with engineering the largest global increase of diabetes in history and trying to cover it up. Fine uranium dust, vaporized into a poison radioactive gas by exploding uranium bombs, missiles and bullets, hitches a ride on dry desert winds to circle the globe in days. Dr. Chris Busby, a leading British radiation expert, got data from a nuclear weapons air monitoring facility at Aldemaston, England, which identified depleted uranium in the British atmosphere only nine days after the "shock and awe" carpet bombing of Baghdad, started in March of 2003. Bob Nichols is a Project Censored Award winner. He is a correspondent for the San Francisco Bay View newspaper and a frequent contributor to various online publications. Nichols is completing a book based on 15 years of nuclear war in Central Asia. He is a former employee of the McAlester Army Ammunition Plant. Nichols can be reached by email, and readers are encouraged to write to him at DUweapons@gmail.com. [Caption] Tanks destroyed by depleted uranium munitions litter Iraq, but these children are not warned that by playing in the ruins they are exposing themselves to diseases that may plague them all their lives and deform their future children. Photo: Dahr Jamail, www.dahrjamailiraq.com More at: http://www.sfbayview.com/062806/dd062806.shtml Jai Maharaj http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti Hindu Holocaust Museum http://www.mantra.com/holocaust Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy http://www.hindu.org http://www.hindunet.org The truth about Islam and Muslims http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are not necessarily those of the poster who may or may not have read the article. FAIR USE NOTICE: This article may contain copyrighted material the use of which may or may not have been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This material is being made available in efforts to advance the understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democratic, scientific, social, and cultural, etc., issues. It is believed that this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research, comment, discussion and educational purposes by subscribing to USENET newsgroups or visiting web sites. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml If you wish to use copyrighted material from this article for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. If this theory is valid then the rate of diabetes in india should be uniform in urban and rural areas, it is not. Urban areas have the highest rates in the world while most rural areas remain at traditional low rates. One shot answers in biology are usually false. The story is also silly and doubtful if it happened. India and italy have both access to email and phone service so any scientist can communicate with any other, or both parties could go to another country. Sounds like a movie plot. >If this theory is valid then the rate of diabetes in india should be >uniform in urban and rural areas, it is not. Urban areas have the highest [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >and phone service so any scientist can communicate with any other, or both >parties could go to another country. Sounds like a movie plot. Well, it's obvious, isn't it? The rural Indians are collecting depleted uranium somewhere and lobbing it into the cities. Glad I could help clear this up. -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If you can't say something nice, then sit next to me." -- Alice Roosevelt Longworth the use of words "global epidemic" is rather an exaggeration, but that's the usual american exaggeration. like, the nfl football champs are called global champs although no other country cares for the funny looking "ball". however, the link between the two is definite. usa has the most disproportionate incidents of diabetes. there can only be two reasons for that. the evangelical radio talk show hosts doing it 24x7 across the country, or the depleted uranium. the latter seems more plausible to scientists, but i think it is a toss up. > Diabetes and depleted uranium > [quoted text clipped - 131 lines] > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the > copyright owner. Bigots can be spotted by their ignorance and willful lies. India has the dubious honor of having the highest rate of diabetes among the countries of the world. If the silly uranium theory was valid there would not be the high rate in urban areas and the traditionally low rate in rural areas, if valid it should be uniform. Or perhaps most urban indians are listening to american radio. "however, the link between the two is definite. usa has the most disproportionate incidents of diabetes. there can only be two reasons for that. the evangelical radio talk show hosts doing it 24x7 across the country, or the depleted uranium. the latter seems more plausible to scientists, but i think it is a toss up." >Bigots can be spotted by their ignorance and willful lies. India has the >dubious honor of having the highest rate of diabetes among the countries [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >country, or the depleted uranium. the latter seems more plausible to >scientists, but i think it is a toss up." I ave two favorite words. Plausible Assume Years ago i watched a Walt Disney documentary where Walt discussed the making of his movies. He said the characters must be PLAUSIBLE. He pointed out Dumbo, the flying elephant I worked for a computer company. The manager was adamant about assume. When a person used the word he threw a fit and wrote on the board ASS-U-ME We do have a serious long term disease and the words are not proper. In other domains they mean "I really do not know". The word Uranium does not mean dangerous radiation.. It is used in the same context as we see in the magic CURE. by spammers. l. Depleted uranium is responsible for diabetes, among other factors of course, and a lot more. Jai Maharaj http://tinyurl.com/a5ljc http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti > the use of words "global epidemic" is rather an exaggeration, but that's the > usual american exaggeration. like, the nfl football champs are called global [quoted text clipped - 143 lines] > > your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the > > copyright owner. "Depleted uranium is responsible for diabetes, among other factors of course, and a lot more." If valid then the rate of diabetes would be uniform in all areas of india. India has the world's highest rate of diabetes mostly in urban areas while rural areas have a traditionally low rate. One poster suggested the rural folk are mad at the urban folk and are lobbing uranium into the cities. >"Depleted uranium is responsible for diabetes, among other factors of >course, and a lot more." [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >rural areas have a traditionally low rate. One poster suggested the rural >folk are mad at the urban folk and are lobbing uranium into the cities. Any issue like this is not done by star trek methods. It is not done by politics or some press writer. It must be done n the real world mode. There are problems with radiation but not in the common public touted items. Uranium is not automatically a risky material. People without the proper knowledge are easily conned Plenty of con artist out there There are enough diabetic issue without some star war dreams here We do dream up enough fiction related to diabetes. NIck was a physics professor. He said you do not know unless you can put numbers on it. Guy >>"Depleted uranium is responsible for diabetes, among other factors of >>course, and a lot more." [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >in the common public touted items. Uranium >is not automatically a risky material. Actually Uranium is automatically a risky material, but not because it is radioactive. All heavy metals are very toxic, and Uranium is no exception. Uranium chemical poisoning will kill you long before the radiation from DU will. DU has a half life of several billion years, which is about the same as Potassium 40, and a sizeable portion of the Potassium in your body is Potassium 40 (not 1 -2%, more like 20%). A very large of the naturally occuring Potassium is K40... >People without the proper knowledge are >easily conned Plenty of con artist out there [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups >----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- >>>"Depleted uranium is responsible for diabetes, among other factors of >>>course, and a lot more." [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Potassium in your body is Potassium 40 (not 1 -2%, more like 20%). A >very large of the naturally occuring Potassium is K40... YOU consume radioactive material every day. Evdetally the natural selection process has worked. Seutp a cloud chamber and watch the activity Cosmc rays are very energetic. Heavy metals can kill but the problem is grossly overstated They are a problem because they accumulate in the body; Some Lawyer;s are making a very good liing out of these questionable issue. Were does the money come from? In the long run--your pocket. >>People without the proper knowledge are >>easily conned Plenty of con artist out there [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >>http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups >>----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- >Diabetes and depleted uranium > [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] >and awe" carpet bombing of Baghdad, started in March of >2003. Never let the facts get in the way. As far as I know, no bombs other than Nuclear weapons contain DU. It is used in a tank rounds, and the rounds fired by the GAU-8 on the A10, but it isn't useful in bombs. It is also suggests that the AVERAGE wind velocity was about 100mph, in other for it to reach England from Baghdad the wrong way... If he really found it, a far more likely source was weapons manufacture in the UK. >Bob Nichols is a Project Censored Award winner. He is a >correspondent for the San Francisco Bay View newspaper [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] >your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the >copyright owner. Jurat maybe you should spend your time learning the mechanism that has the effect you seem to indicate. So many make a good living using so many causes to alarm people falsely. I did receive a large dose oil radiation while working on an Atomic Test program. It PROBABLY did some harm. Anyone deciding ANY uranium is different from any other element has the obligation to prove it. I do qualify for full VA rights but do not use them Alarmist who for the most part are technically unqualified do not help those with real issues. They seem to come out of the wood work and usually solicit funding. Excess radiation of any kind may be dangerous in large doses. That includes medical use. There is is a benefit/ harm issue. Alarmist have done me more harm than good. By necessity, the military has little concern over the individual. > Jurat maybe you should spend your time learning the > mechanism that has the effect you seem to indicate. > So many make a good living using so many causes to > alarm people falsely. Guy, your quoting here was a bit confusing. I'd have added a "[comments snipped]" comment, to show that you were responding to Ed, or remove that "just Ed" reference in your letter. Depleted uranium is interesting stuff. There's a good link at http://www.gulflink.osd.mil/faq_17apr.htm. But radiation damage is also interesting. The likelihood of it causing diabetes without causing a much, much larger and more general proliferation of cancer, especially skin cancer for those who don't actually ingest it, is ridiculously low (in my opinion, having majored in bio-electric engineering at MIT and having MIT's chemistry and physics coursework for it.) > I did receive a large dose oil radiation while > working on an Atomic Test program. > > It PROBABLY did some harm. Really! What was your exposure? I remember when Mickey Martin was holding forth on how his/her/its mom's exposure to radiation caused his/her/its diabetes, which made no sense: it later turned out Mickey had Klinefelder's Syndrome, a genetic oddity involving spare X chromosomes that can cause gender confusion and some serious physical oddities. > Anyone deciding ANY uranium is different from any > other element has the obligation to prove it. Or isotope! U-238, which is what depleted uranium is, is rather different than the vastly more radioactive U-235, the lighter stuff that gets refined out to make enriched nuclear fuel and nuclear weapons. > They seem to come out of the wood work and > usually solicit funding. > > Excess radiation of any kind may be dangerous > in large doses. That includes medical use. > There is is a benefit/ harm issue. Oh, agreed. Depleted uranium is actually used for weird things like counterweights in military aircraft, and as armor piercing bullets due to its high density, good strength compared to things like lead, and its tendency to ignite if you dump enough energy into it (such as smashing it into or through tank armor). The extra effects of igniting the shell of an armor pierce after the heating caused by hitting and penetrating armor should not be underestimated. It has also been used for bird shot. If you want to see politcal screaming, coupled with both good and bad science, take a look at *THAT* argument. >> Jurat maybe you should spend your time learning the >> mechanism that has the effect you seem to indicate. [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >It has also been used for bird shot. If you want to see politcal screaming, >coupled with both good and bad science, take a look at *THAT* argument. Nico I cain't disagree with you. My exposure probably involved a lot of ingested material. We waded around he deep dust at and near GZ. It was an emergency recovery of instruments-- two months after the Smokey shot. We were given coveralls and simple face masks. Jack c. worked on the recovered items. He died two years from Leukemia. If I remember correctly, the background levels all over the country were elevated. during the test periods. I think we agree that this case is very questionable. I expect someone to try to save the tree knots A donation please. Guy ..... it links any given quasar with toenail fungus. Qasars are linked to toenail fungus!? What conspiracy has kept THAT secret for so long? |
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