I would like some to tell me how we measure insulin in the
blood stream.
How long does insulin remain active in the blood stream?
Guy
oldal4865 - 03 Oct 2005 15:41 GMT
Guys wrote in message ...
>I would like some to tell me how we measure insulin in the
>blood stream.
>
>How long does insulin remain active in the blood stream?
> Guy
1. The first assays were based on radioactive antibodies.
Grab the insulin with a radioactive antibody.
Assay the radioactivity
Worth a Nobel Prize at the time.
Now there are several assays. One type:
coat a glass plate with a monoclonal antibody for insulin
contact the glass plate with the sample, the antibody grabs the insulin
contact the antibody-insulin combo with another antibody linked to
biotin
assay the biotin
None of them seem easy, either to do or understand.
2. Half-life about 5 minutes..
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_ui
ds=7017987&dopt=Abstract
". . . . Insulin half-life in the control subjects was 5.2 +/- 0.3 min and
3.9 +/- 0.2 min in the trauma group. . . ."
Regards
Old Al
Guys - 04 Oct 2005 04:14 GMT
Thanks, I see so much exact comments on insulin. I have some
questions on the past comments on insulin life in the blood stream.
It an area with many contradictions. I have had these questions for
many years. Some of these thing were discussed by associates 40 or
50
years ago. I had no interest in diabetes then.
I have read about the politics involved in the development of
insulin and penicillin. Theft of credit for profit and
credit are common. Have seen a bit of my work published
by others with no credit notation. People are just people.
Some of the papers I read seem to assume so much. Claim
things I thought were impossible.
Thanks again
Guy
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matt weber - 04 Oct 2005 04:50 GMT
>I would like some to tell me how we measure insulin in the
>blood stream.
IT is very rarely measured, most of the time you are only interested
in endogenously produced insulin anyway. Insulin starts life as
proinsulin, it splits into two parts, insulin and peptide-C. Because
peptide-C and insulin have similar serum half life, Peptide-C is
universally used as a surrogate for insulin.
Insulin levels could probably be measured the same way C-peptide is,
Radio-Immuno-Assay (RIA), although that may not measure anything
except human insulin (depends upon where the antibody attaches). The
levels are sufficiently low that you need to resort to fairly subtle
techniques to measure it.
>How long does insulin remain active in the blood stream?
Not very long, on the order of 15 minutes, hence the question about
the kidneys not removing insulin is suspect. Insulin usually doesn't
stick around long enough to be removed.
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Herman Rubin - 05 Oct 2005 16:06 GMT
>I would like some to tell me how we measure insulin in the
>blood stream.
>How long does insulin remain active in the blood stream?
> Guy
We have had a posting that the half-life of insulin in
the blood stream is 9 minutes. This is why it is
injected into fatty tissue to seep into the blood stream.

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William C Biggs MD - 13 Oct 2005 02:04 GMT
Hello Guy,
We measure insulin levels in our office.
Our particular method is based on "chemiluminescence". The manufacturer has
developed an antibody specific for the insulin molecule. The antibody has
incorporated into it a side chain that fluoresces under certain wavelengths.
So we simply load a small sample of blood into our analyzer, it is mixed
with the chemiluminescent reagents, and a light reading is measured a few
minutes later.
The results are very reproducible, and we have never score less than 100% on
our lab proficiency tests.
We can also test for c-peptide, but that is reserved for special situations.
Insulin levels are more commonly used in day to day testing; for instance in
order to estimate insulin resistance (by HOMA calculations) or to verify
Medicare eligibility for an insulin pump.
The half life of insulin depends upon renal function. Insulin is cleared by
the kidneys. With normal renal function the half life is only 5 - 9 minutes,
and much longer (hours) for those with renal impairment.
But you need to be careful here.
The biological activity is longer, as there are residual insulin molecules
sitting on insulin receptors for much longer.
This is the difference in pharmacoKINETICS vs. pharmacoDYNAMICS.
The pharmacodynamic effect of insulin is much longer than 9 minutes.
Back in the "old days" we would give 100 unit intravenous doses of insulin
every hour for DKA. This would saturate the insulin receptors, giving us
maximum effect in clearing DKA. With the advent of the IVAC pump, we don't
need to do this anymore.
Cheers,
William C Biggs MD
Cheers
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