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Marshall - 20 Apr 2004 01:33 GMT
Can anyone explain why I would be told that you can not loose weight
doing anerobic exercise? Does aerobic burn fat while anerobic does not
burn fat?
matt weber - 20 Apr 2004 04:11 GMT
>Can anyone explain why I would be told that you can not loose weight
>doing anerobic exercise? Does aerobic burn fat while anerobic does not
>burn fat?
IT matters not.  One process converts sugar into water and CO2
(aerobic), if you cannot produce enough energy that way, then some
sugars are converted to lactic acid. At a later time the Lactic acid
is either converted back to sugar, or burned the rest of the way
(Krebb's Cycle IIRC).

Either one is going to convert fat to sugar if there isn't enough
sugar available.
W.D. Peckenpaugh - 20 Apr 2004 07:19 GMT
> >Can anyone explain why I would be told that you can not loose weight
> >doing anerobic exercise? Does aerobic burn fat while anerobic does not
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> Either one is going to convert fat to sugar if there isn't enough
> sugar available.

Ummm, not exactly.

It matters a great deal in that aerobic metabolism directly "burns" free
fatty acids [which are liberated from the fat stored throughout your body],
while anaerobic metabolism burns only glusoce(/glycogen). Both aerobic and
anaerobic metabolism burn their fuels down to the pyruvic acid stage, but to
proceed with the Krebs cycle you need [drumroll] oxygen. So, in answer to
the OP, yes, the aerobic system burns fat (free fatty acids) while the
anaerobic system burns glucose (i.e., doesn't burn fat).

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gman99 - 20 Apr 2004 16:36 GMT
> It matters a great deal in that aerobic metabolism directly "burns" free
> fatty acids [which are liberated from the fat stored throughout your
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> fatty acids) while the anaerobic system burns glucose (i.e., doesn't burn
> fat).

Not telling the whole story...aerobic exercie will still burn glucose. If
combined with low calories they will both burn fat too.
W.D. Peckenpaugh - 20 Apr 2004 20:08 GMT
> > It matters a great deal in that aerobic metabolism directly "burns" free
> > fatty acids [which are liberated from the fat stored throughout your
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Not telling the whole story...aerobic exercie will still burn glucose. If
> combined with low calories they will both burn fat too.

You are confusing "aerobic exercise" with aerobic metabolism. Aerobic
exercise promotes optimal aerobic metabolism, but it's entirely possible to
do "aerobics" so hard that you slip into anaerobic metabolism, or so
apathetically that you remain below optimal aerobic metabolism.

Aerobic respiration directly metabolizes free fatty acids. Anaerobic
respiration metabolizes glucose. Most exercise results in muscle cells using
both metabolic pathways, since you can't usually hit the "sweet spot" of
maximum aerobic respiration without either becoming out of breath (and
losing optimal aerobic respiration), or exercising at sub-aerobic levels.

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Julie Bove - 20 Apr 2004 06:03 GMT
> Can anyone explain why I would be told that you can not loose weight
> doing anerobic exercise? Does aerobic burn fat while anerobic does not
> burn fat?

Maybe you should ask the person who told you this.  I do mainly anaerobic
exercise (weights) and am losing weight.  I am building muscle and the more
muscle you have, the more calories you burn.

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Marc - 20 Apr 2004 11:27 GMT
> Maybe you should ask the person who told you this.  I do mainly
> anaerobic exercise (weights) and am losing weight.  I am building
> muscle and the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn.

       Exactly. For balance doing both is good, but anaerobic exercises
build strength and stamina, always good.
gman99 - 20 Apr 2004 16:33 GMT
> Can anyone explain why I would be told that you can not loose weight
> doing anerobic exercise? Does aerobic burn fat while anerobic does not
> burn fat?

non-sense....who told you this crap ?

Basically...the difference is that aerobic exercise requires Oxygen, the
other doesn't...either will burn whatever fuel is available. Typically the
body burns fuel preferentially, stored glucose first. Fat is burned when
stored glucose is depleted and there's nonnew coming in.
W.D. Peckenpaugh - 20 Apr 2004 20:13 GMT
> > Can anyone explain why I would be told that you can not loose weight
> > doing anerobic exercise? Does aerobic burn fat while anerobic does not
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> Basically...the difference is that aerobic exercise requires Oxygen, the
> other doesn't...

That much is correct.

> either will burn whatever fuel is available. Typically the
> body burns fuel preferentially, stored glucose first. Fat is burned when
> stored glucose is depleted and there's nonnew coming in.

And that is incorrect.

The aerobic metabolic pathway burns fatty acids. Period. The anaerobic
metabolic pathway burns glucose. Period. Both metabolize their respective
fuels to pyruvic acid, at which point the PA enters the Krebs cycle (if
there's oxygen available) to be further metabolized. *Cells* can switch from
one fuel to another, depending on whether one running out (like a marathon
runner "hitting the wall" when glycogen stores are exhausted: the runner
doesn't simply collapse, because free fatty acids continue to be metabolized
aerobically).

You certainly can lose weight doing only nonaerobic exercise, but you will
generally lose weight faster (and you will deplete fat stores directly) by
doing aerobic exercise. Anaerobic exercise is good for toning muscle and
building strength, but is isn't good for quickly losing fat.

Bill
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gman99 - 21 Apr 2004 12:30 GMT
> You certainly can lose weight doing only nonaerobic exercise, but you
> will generally lose weight faster (and you will deplete fat stores
> directly) by doing aerobic exercise. Anaerobic exercise is good for
> toning muscle and building strength, but is isn't good for quickly losing
> fat.

BS...what happens to all that unsued glucose then ?? It gets stored as FAT
!
W.D. Peckenpaugh - 21 Apr 2004 20:39 GMT
> > You certainly can lose weight doing only nonaerobic exercise, but you
> > will generally lose weight faster (and you will deplete fat stores
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>
> BS...what happens to all that unsued glucose then ?? It gets stored as FAT

And to burn fat (as well as pyruvic acid in the Krebs cycle) requires
oxygen, because fatty acids are metabolized aerobically. Is there some part
of this simple fact that confuses you?

Bill
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Terra - 10 Jan 2006 20:16 GMT
>> > You certainly can lose weight doing only nonaerobic exercise, but you
>> > will generally lose weight faster (and you will deplete fat stores
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>http://www.plimu.com/bill.htm (Boring me...)
>http://www.plimu.com/daniel.htm (The Amazing Daniel!)

ANYWAY, I think you guys are not answering this persons question. Many people
seem to think there are fat loss benefits for using both Aerobic and
Anaerobic exercise. I have personally used both and have seen fat loss with
this combo. I benefit personally from it for not only fat loss but for
stamina, speed and mixing my routines up a little..Also including some
Fartlek training doesnt hurt. Im not an expert, but perhaps if you answered
the question in English(laymans terms) maybe they will be more inclined to
agree with what you are saying as opposed to probably thinking you are a know
it all. :-)
 
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