Just wondering,
As a victim of the local PCT i will be forced to buy strips when needed.
Question is...are these strips VAT exempt like the meters?
Thanks
Chris
Tiger_Lily - 20 May 2008 20:02 GMT
> Just wondering,
>
> As a victim of the local PCT i will be forced to buy strips when needed.
> Question is...are these strips VAT exempt like the meters?
> Thanks
> Chris
they should be, they are medical supplies

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Fastmoggy - 20 May 2008 20:24 GMT
>> Just wondering,
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> they should be, they are medical supplies
That's what i thought but it must be one of the NHS's best kept secrets!
If i have to pay then i have to pay BUT if i can save about £4.05 from
gordens and his mates then it's worth it!
Tiger_Lily - 20 May 2008 20:47 GMT
>>> Just wondering,
>>>
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> If i have to pay then i have to pay BUT if i can save about £4.05 from
> gordens and his mates then it's worth it!
here, i have the pharmacist put items like that in an Rx bag, and they
charge me the 'counter' price for them
it's the Rx bag that saves the GST at the cashier
i've sent strips to the UK marked Medical Blood Test Strips and no VAT
has been charged on them

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Andy Hall - 20 May 2008 22:11 GMT
>>>> Just wondering,
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> i've sent strips to the UK marked Medical Blood Test Strips and no VAT
> has been charged on them
Different game, Kate.
If the declared value is less than about £18, it's exempt anyway. At
a little more they don't bother. When it's much more (about £50) they
start to notice.
It should be possible to import strips to the UK and with medical
exemption not to pay import VAT. However, practically it would be a
major hassle because normally the goods pass through customs on the
assumption of duty to be paid and the courier/post collects the VAT.
It is *very* difficult for them to process VAT exemption (read they
won't or will charge a large admin fee) so in practical terms it would
mean claiming the money back from HMRC. That will take geological
time, mainly because civil servants of the onanist persuasion are
involved.
Andy Hall - 20 May 2008 22:06 GMT
>>> Just wondering,
>>>
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> If i have to pay then i have to pay BUT if i can save about £4.05 from
> gordens and his mates then it's worth it!
It's not the responsibility of the NHS. They agree the deals at some
price and go from there. VAT for them doesn't come into it, and guess
what, they don't give a sh.t about deal you migh be able to do.
Any small thing that can accelerate the demise of Brown and a reduction
in the public sector is to be encouraged
Andy Hall - 20 May 2008 22:03 GMT
> Just wondering,
>
> As a victim of the local PCT i will be forced to buy strips when needed.
> Question is...are these strips VAT exempt like the meters?
> Thanks
> Chris
Oh yes.
The easiest way is to find an on line supplier who will let you submit
a VAT exemption form. Then you get the products net of VAT.
Retailer shops like Mr Jesse Boot's empire don't know how to do this
or don't have the proceedcakes.
Basically, you self certify that you are eligible under HMG rules and
that's it. Theoretically HMRC can come and audit you, but in
practice they are more interested in carousel fraud between Birmingham
and the Black Country. Just make sure that your passport is up to date.
Nicky - 21 May 2008 08:19 GMT
>Just wondering,
>
>As a victim of the local PCT i will be forced to buy strips when needed.
>Question is...are these strips VAT exempt like the meters?
Yes - but be prepared to be looked at like you were green with two
heads if you ask the droid at the local pharmacy. It's surprising
enough to them that you want to buy strips anyway, and to have to find
the right price may well stretch them to breaking...
If you give up on that, there's a couple of on-line shops that sell
them; I've also had good results buying from German chemists on ebay.
Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
DaveT - 21 May 2008 16:20 GMT
> Just wondering,
>
> As a victim of the local PCT i will be forced to buy strips when needed.
> Question is...are these strips VAT exempt like the meters? Thanks
> Chris
As I have never had to buy strips I am uncertain but items like syringes
lancets as well as the meters certainly are as I do buy them in bulk
because I can not be arsed with the small packs I used to get off my
doctor. As the lancets are not used for anything (well they are good for
getting specks out and... but that's not the point ;) ) else but testing
blood they should be the same as the strips. It is also possible that
strips are VAT free.
If you already have an exemption card just ask for the chemist (not the
sales staff) and show it or if you get all your scripts from the same
chemist you probable won't have to as you will already be on their
computer.

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Peter C - 23 May 2008 09:33 GMT
> Just wondering,
>
> As a victim of the local PCT i will be forced to buy strips when needed.
> Question is...are these strips VAT exempt like the meters?
> Thanks
> Chris
If you are still taking gliclazide you should still be eligible for
test strips prescriptions. Because your sulf can cause hypos.
T2s on sulfylonureas and insulin are not affected by the test strip
restrictions to T2s on d&E and d&e/metformin.
John Williamson - 23 May 2008 10:15 GMT
>> Just wondering,
>>
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> T2s on sulfylonureas and insulin are not affected by the test strip
> restrictions to T2s on d&E and d&e/metformin.
"Should" being the operative word. Stoke PCT will issue strips to
patients on insulin without being prompted. Patients on gliclazide don't
get 'em unless they kick up a big fuss.

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Fastmoggy - 23 May 2008 14:08 GMT
>>> Just wondering,
>>>
>>> As a victim of the local PCT i will be forced to buy strips when needed.
>>> Question is...are these strips VAT exempt like the meters?
>>> Thanks
>>> Chris
> "Should" being the operative word. Stoke PCT will issue strips to patients
> on insulin without being prompted. Patients on gliclazide don't get 'em
> unless they kick up a big fuss.
Well rather than kick up a stink, i thought id explain why i should still be
able to have my strips, even if on a bi monthly basis so that i was still
able to maintain 'my good control' because as of late my Hb1's have slowly
gone up from 5.2 to 6.1. They just said that until i hit 7.5 i should carry
on without strips. That seems to be the Nottingham PCT's idea and doctors
'told' to stop prescribing them to T2's.
On the plus side...my mother in law does get the same strips (different PCT)
so i can at least get my hands on a drum when needed but that shouldn't be
the case!