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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / May 2008New study on testing - get in on the ground floor
Hi all Just came across the offer on the DESMOND site to fund local areas in this study on testing - OK it's funded by DUK, but worth alerting local areas about. I've sent it to my nurse. Plus you can train as a lay educator if you wish http://www.desmond-project.org.uk/research_02.html Patti Penzance, Cornwall On Levemir and Novorapid + meds for BP and thyroid Join us at http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk "The friendly forum!" > Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > On Levemir and Novorapid + meds for BP and thyroid > Join us at http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk "The friendly forum!" finally............... a study that MAKES SENSE! sigh here's hoping they got it done quick enough to get test strips back to type 2 diabetics!  Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html I wrote to these people - here is the reply <<Dear Helen Thank you for your interest - you did not make clear where you heard about the study so I am assuming you saw some information on our web site. The self-monitoring study is a randomised controlled trial being run in a number of sites around the country. Newly diagnosed patients are being invited to attend a DESMOND education programme where they are introduced to either blood monitoring or urine monitoring. The study is just starting and unfortunately because of the nature of research it will be 2 to 3 years before the results are known and published. I'm not sure if your interest is general or because you are interested in taking part. Unfortunately because of the design of the study people are not able to refer themselves. Also the study is looking at newly diagnosed patients - ie diagnosed within the last 3 months. We may be running some focus groups in a years time where people with experience of self-monitoring discuss how they are getting on. If you are interested in hearing about these I could put your name and contact details on the list of people who have expressed an interest. It would obviously depend where in the country we run the groups. Tanks Helen DESMOND Project Office Ward 38, Level 6 Windsor Building Leicester Royal Infirmary Leicester LE1 5WW Tel:0116 2587290 Fax: 0116 2586165 The DESMOND Training and Quality Development Programme: provider of award-winning Skills Development, HSJ Awards 2007>> I'm not convinced... HH And here's the next letter Hi helen To become a DESMOND Educator I'm afraid you need to be a Health Care Professionl. However we are running a study looking at the role of lay educators. This is being run in a number of sites around the country but at present is only recruiting in Leicestershire. If you live in that area my suggestion is to get in touch with Panna Madalia who will be able to tell you more (panna.mandalia@uhl-tr.nhs.uk) Thanks Helen Note the poor capitalisation etc... This is not the message from the website HH >And here's the next letter > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >HH Dang! Let me know when they start recruiting on the NSW Tweed Coast. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter. Angkor Wat http://loraltravel.blogspot.com Helen I am majorly disappointed in this... it isn't as displayed on the website and is, as usual, going in the normal "Oh you don't qualify" sort of way. However, even though people can't refer themselves I do still think it's worth passing on to health professionals who may be able to work towards getting their PCTs involved... which is why I posted it. Patti Penzance, Cornwall On Levemir and Novorapid + meds for BP and thyroid Join us at http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk "The friendly forum!" >Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >On Levemir and Novorapid + meds for BP and thyroid >Join us at http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk "The friendly forum!" I went to their website to try to understand exactly what they now teach in DESMOND. It's not exactly clear. To save me reading all of these http://www.desmond-project.org.uk/library.html can someone give a quick explanation of the programme? Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter. Angkor Wat http://loraltravel.blogspot.com >> Hi all >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Angkor Wat > http://loraltravel.blogspot.com Alan, here is Terry's summary of his course for DAFNE (it's the same as DESMOND) http://diabetes-support.org.uk/Dafne%20account.html enjoy! Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html > >> Hi all > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Alan, here is Terry's summary of his course for DAFNE (it's the same as > DESMOND)http://diabetes-support.org.uk/Dafne%20account.html NO it isn't ! DAFNE is a method for carb counting for T1s on insulin and DESMOND is for T2s in general. One of the first things the link you provided says is ... ***Many ideas and principles used within Dafne are likely to be completely inappropriate for type 2 diabetes.*** >>>> Hi all >>>> Just came across the offer on the DESMOND site to fund local areas in [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > ***Many ideas and principles used within Dafne are likely to be > completely inappropriate for type 2 diabetes.*** arggggggghhhhhhhh i was thinking of BERTIE thanks for the correction! Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html snip >> Alan, here is Terry's summary of his course for DAFNE (it's the same as >> DESMOND)http://diabetes-support.org.uk/Dafne%20account.html [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ***Many ideas and principles used within Dafne are likely to be > completely inappropriate for type 2 diabetes.*** Can I add to that, any T1 who has insulin resistance (through age, that is natural) needs more insulin but we are talking a range from 1.5 units to 3 units per 15 grams. You must know what effect each drop of that insulin is going to have on the amount of carb you have eaten. It also differs through out the day but in a known pattern. T1s use a lot less insulin per day. T2 IR would make the maths impossible to work out because the level of resistance is not known in advance. SignatureDaveT T1 Dx 1955 (aged 9) Basal Hypurin Beef Lente Bolus Lispro |
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