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Turner's Babe - 06 Oct 2003 09:46 GMT
Hi all

I'm back again.  I'm having a really really bad time.  I'm down and so very very depressed.
It's hurting me, my hubby and my mum but I can't see any way out of it.  I just want to die to
let all the pain go away.  Why does it seem that no-one can help me or hear my cries of pain.  I
can't drag myself through this all again.  My heart is so very heavy.  I can't sleep, or eat or
drink, or function.  I was on Prozac for a week, but it just made me burn.  Now I don't kinow
what to do.  I just want it all to end, to finish, I'm giving up and that's what's frightening.
Please tell me it's going to get better.  Please.  I'm going to the doctor tomorrow to get
refered to the  Psychiatric Out Patients.  Which I've never done before, I just feel so helpless
and weak for it getting this far.  I don't want to go through this all again.  Please let me
know I'm not on my own.  It's hurting me badly, I don't feel that anyone is really listening to
me.  Please help - I don't know what to do anymore.

My hubby listens and so does my mum but they can't feel the deep deep pain buried deep in my
heart at the moment, I can't see anyway out of it.  I'm so silly, I should never have let
pressure get me this far down, but I can't help it.

Please tell me I'm not alone and I will get better.  Please.

Jackie x
Tim - 06 Oct 2003 09:57 GMT
> Hi all
>
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>
> Jackie x

You are not silly.You are not weak.People here care.The black clouds
will lift.It may be hard to think so but they will.
Turner's Babe - 06 Oct 2003 10:19 GMT
> > Hi all
> >
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> You are not silly.You are not weak.People here care.The black clouds
> will lift.It may be hard to think so but they will.

Do you promise?
Emma - 06 Oct 2003 10:58 GMT
Turner's Babe <turnersbabeMYBIG@SISTERPLEASEukonline.co.ukNOW> writes
>"Tim" <newsposts@mm.st> wrote in message

>> > I'm back again.  I'm having a really really bad time.  I'm down and so very
>very depressed.

Can you pinpoint anything that has suddenly made you feel this low?

>> You are not silly.You are not weak.People here care.The black clouds
>> will lift.It may be hard to think so but they will.
>Do you promise?

You know we would promise you the world if we could but we aren't
experts, all we can do is give you support and send you our love.

{{{{HUGS}}}}

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Fester - 06 Oct 2003 11:08 GMT
> > > Hi all
> > >
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>
> Do you promise?

Of course we promise! Everyone gets down at times, and when you're down the
last thing you can see is the light at the end of the tunnel as there always
seems to be something blocking it. However the light is there and you're
going to see it, it just takes a little time and sometimes more patience
than we have in reserve.

I've been feeling quite down of late as i've just come to realise that i
really am stuck with this disease for life and whichever way i look at it
i'm either going to have to sort it out or let it slowly kill me. You're
lucky, you have family who care and who will stand by you no matter what. My
hardest thing is that i live alone, not much family and sometimes i feel
like i just have no reason to go on. It's coming to places like this and
talking to people, yourself included that makes me realise that things can
and will be ok and will  get better as time goes on.

So a massive big hug to you   to try and cheer you  up ... i'm sure others
will be long to say much the same thing. The key thing is to realise that
you are NEVER alone, either in terms of support from friends or family or
with people on here who might not know you as well but who will always
understand why you feel the way you do. This is a support community, let it
support you as you have supported others in the past.

I'm here most of the day at work so will attempt to cheer you up if i can:)

hugs n fings.

Patrick
Flying Rat - 06 Oct 2003 19:03 GMT
Turner's Babe said this...
> Do you promise?

For every down there is an up.

Basic rules of the Universe.

Get back to that GP and ask for the referral if you think it will help.
We go on about referrals to diabetic clinics here, depression is no
different. Get referred to a specialist who can use specialist knowledge
to help you, babe.

And remember there is always someone around here to listen and not be
judgemental in any way.

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Beav - 06 Oct 2003 21:27 GMT
> > > Hi all
> > >
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>
> Do you promise?

Tell yu what Jackie, if he's wrong, I'll come round there and you can have a
look at my face. If THAT doesn't make you hurt like you've never hurt
before, I'll slap you around a bit to take your mind of your current pain.
That a deal or what?? :-)

Beav
Bob - 07 Oct 2003 02:33 GMT
On  6-Oct-2003, "Turner's Babe"
<turnersbabeMYBIG@SISTERPLEASEukonline.co.ukNOW> wrote:

> > > Please tell me I'm not alone and I will get better.  Please.
> >
> > You are not silly.You are not weak.People here care.The black clouds
> > will lift.It may be hard to think so but they will.
>
> Do you promise?

Hello Jackie, I was moved by your message and I CAN PROMISE that this
thing will pass.

I was in deep depression many years ago, never believed that i would
come out of it.  But i did, and so will you.  It does take a while and a
bit off support
but there really is a light at the end of the tunnel.

Only take on small things just one at a time.  Rest a lot.  Just loll in
depression for a while, let everyone around give you a bit of comfort.
It really will get better.

Love and regards, Bob

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angelbaby - 06 Oct 2003 12:19 GMT
<snip>
> Please tell me I'm not alone and I will get better.  Please.
>
> Jackie x

i can't lie to you, i'm sorry, you might get better, but you might not,
in any illness there are casualties, some people do get better, some
don't its reality, life is not fair.

*hugs*

kate
Sleepyman - 06 Oct 2003 14:07 GMT
><snip>
>> Please tell me I'm not alone and I will get better.  Please.
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>
>kate

There are many other newer, and better anti depressants out there than
Prozac. As a fellow sufferer for many years I understand precisely how
you are feeling. With me, when I am as low as you are feeling right
now, the hardest thing in the world to do, is just to get out of bed
to face the day. I just want to pull a pillow over my head, and make
the world go away. It can go on for weeks. I don't take my meds for
diabetes, or anything else. I don't test. I don't eat right. I am just
a total mess sitting in the dark. You may be suffering from something
a little more severe than SADD. I don't know. Going to the Clinic is
the first step. I have tried many different meds, and combinations of
meds over the last few years. Has it cured me? No. But it has helped
enough that I get out of bed every day, and I take my meds, and I eat
right, and I actually get out of the house on occasion. Good, not
great, but livable. I must say that I am one of the few that hasn't
responded well to drug therapy, and counseling. One thing you need to
keep in your head. You are not weak of character. You cannot just lift
yourself up by the bootstraps. It is not a matter of will, or mind
over matter. You most likely have an imbalance of brain chemicals. If
you have high blood pressure, does that make you a bad person? No, you
take your med, and life goes on. You bust a leg, does that mean you
have no character? Not at all. You put a cast on it, and life goes on.
I will tell you one thing though. One or two days a year, the fog will
lift in totality. I feel wonderful. Is this the way people feel
everyday who don't have this bloody disease? It is a revelation to me.
It gives me hope to carry on, and maybe someday I will hit on the med,
or combo of meds that will make the struggle worthwhile. I am a severe
case, and have been this way for as long as I can remember. You are a
recent onset. I bet you anything, that you are going to get better.
Count on it.

Sleepy

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raskolnikoff - 06 Oct 2003 14:34 GMT
"Turner's Babe" wrote...
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> Please tell me I'm not alone and I will get better.  Please.

you are not alone and I hope you get better....much, much better

luv on ya

kol
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Whiskers - 06 Oct 2003 15:27 GMT
In uk.people.support.depression on Monday 06 Oct 2003 9:46 am, Turner's Babe
<turnersbabeMYBIG@SISTERPLEASEukonline.co.ukNOW> wrote:

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> Please tell me I'm not alone and I will get better.  Please.

If you insist ;))

You know that these things tend to go in 'cycles'; where you are now it's
very hard to believe, I know, but you will feel better again, I promise.

Well done for arranging to see the doctor; that can sometimes be the hardest
step to take.  Don't feel 'bad' or 'weak' about being ill, it really isn't
your fault.

Whiskery Hugs {{{{{Jackie}}}}}

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Jackie Jacombs - 06 Oct 2003 18:56 GMT
> Hi all
>
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>
> Jackie x

From one Jackie to another.  I have had spells of serious depression too,
over the years, though all years apart.  For me broken relationships,
stress, worry or illness, mine, or my kids seems to trigger it off.  Though
some people seem not to have an external trigger to suffer from depression
this bad.  Once I am really down its hard to function at all.  Everything is
such a mammoth effort.  Even making a cup of tea seemed to be almost
impossible.  I would lose interest in everything and even the sun shining
would make me feel worse because, I couldn't enjoy simple normal things
anymore. Also, with this came extreme anxiety and things getting totally out
of proportion..  Each time I needed antidepressants to help pull me out of
it.  Antidepressants take a while to work sometimes 3 or more.  I have had
Prozac in the past and found it pulled me out long enough to see that things
could be coped with and eventually after a few months I was back to normal
and was able to stop taking them with no further trouble.  I didn't have any
problems getting off them.  In fact rather than taper them as one is
probably supposed to I just kept forgetting to take them because I no longer
needed them, and before I knew it, I had stopped taking them altogether.
The depression that you have is a chemical imbalance, what ever the cause,
and the depression come nowhere close to just feeling sad and down, its an
overwhelming feeling that dominates your whole day from waking to sleeping
and nothing can get you out of it.    It probably will pass away in time
without medication but please do go back to your GP and if you cant take
Prozac for some reason try another anti D until you get one that works for
you.

Good luck and hugs from Jackie Jacombs mum of Sasha
Jette Goldie - 06 Oct 2003 21:13 GMT
> Hi all
>
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>
> Please tell me I'm not alone and I will get better.  Please.

You're not alone - and remember this, you are *doing better*
than some, in that you have enough energy to ask for help.

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Al Hardy - 06 Oct 2003 21:18 GMT
> Hi all
>
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>
> Jackie x

Hi love,
Remember my bio? In and out of hospital for depression, but not since the
middle 70`s. And there are much more efficient anti-depressants now than
*old* Prozac, or the imipramine I was on then.

So, you are not alone, and you will get better, but not next week, nor next
month, but you WILL turn the corner.

Al.
geoff firman - 07 Oct 2003 18:27 GMT
And there are much more efficient anti-depressants now than
> *old* Prozac, or the imipramine I was on then.

i've been toying with the idea of trying a new AD.  i am presently on
60mg of prozac a day.  has anyone been on that high a dose of prozac?
what are some other possiblities for new AD's..?

g/
Whiskers - 07 Oct 2003 21:01 GMT
In uk.people.support.depression on Tuesday 07 Oct 2003 6:27 pm, geoff firman
<nospam@nospam.org> wrote:

> i've been toying with the idea of trying a new AD.  i am presently on
> 60mg of prozac a day.  has anyone been on that high a dose of prozac?

Yes, for about a year.

> what are some other possiblities for new AD's..?

Lots and lots, and then some more.  I'm currently on dothiepin, which I
think is the fifth one I've used.

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Mornin' Glory - 09 Oct 2003 14:38 GMT
> Hi all
>
> Please tell me I'm not alone and I will get better.  Please.
>
> Jackie x

Hi Jackie

Although it is good to hear from you again I wish it was under different
circumstances :O(.  I no longer do icq but if you do MSN please feel to add
me on passionfor(at)webhamony(dot) co.uk

Love n' Stuff

Dawn
Turner's Babe - 09 Oct 2003 17:16 GMT
> > Hi all
> >
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>
> Dawn

Hi Everyone,

Well I got my doc in the other day - when I was at rock bottom - he actually helped this time.
I've been reading a book called "Depressive illness" by Dr Tim Cantopher (I think)...... and it
was wonderful - it gave me the little strength to ask for more help.  He's changed my meds - I'm
now on Seroxat 20mg (and it's kind of perked me up a little, although the black clouds are
there, I can see a little light at the end of the tunnel) - this depression is 200% worse than
last time, I've never felt so frightened in my whole life.  Anyway's the doc said yes to
Seroxat, and gave me a few sleeping pills (which knock me straight out) just to catch up on the
7 days I didn't sleep, and I also bagered him for a referal to the hospital, although my private
healthcare advised me today to use them (so I can get a private referal to a psychotherapist to
do CBT!)  So it's sort of looking up.  I've been told not to worry about my diabetes at the
moment (even though I'm not eating anyway....) and concentrate on getting better.

You lot (in both groups) are wonderful you know.  So very understanding.  :o)

I'm still going to be away for a while so I can rest and recover - but I'm sure I'll get there -
then I'll be back to get on your nerves again!

Jackie xxxx

PS:  Cheers Dawn, I'll make a note of your addy and be in touch :o)
Al Hardy - 09 Oct 2003 19:18 GMT
> > > Hi all
> > >
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>
> I'm still going to be away for a while so I can rest and recover - but I'm
sure I'll get there -
> then I'll be back to get on your nerves again!

I look forward to you getting on my nerves again. :-)) Take it easy, and
rest up a bit, just an odd note now and then to let us know how you are
progressing - which you will do.

Al.

> Jackie xxxx
>
> PS:  Cheers Dawn, I'll make a note of your addy and be in touch :o)
 
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