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Pete - 24 Oct 2006 21:42 GMT
Just one of my ramblings:

When born, we are provided with a finite capacity for
insulin production. It is inevitable that we will all become
diabetic should we live long enough.

The point is this, if you use this finite resource up by
placing unreasonable demands upon it, then you will become
diabetic earlier than would otherwise be the case.

The factors that make the rate of use vary from individual
to individual without placing abnormal loading on the
system, vary as much as we all are differnt from each other
and there can be no set rule or measure that determines how
each will fare.

All that can be done is to be aware and not to 'over fuel'
or use the wrong or inappropriate fuel.

We are esigned by nature to eat when hungry and when it is
necessary. We are not designed to eat three times a day at
set times and this is just one of many factors in human
society that contributes to the current problem.
Beav - 25 Oct 2006 21:36 GMT
> Just one of my ramblings:
>
> When born, we are provided with a finite capacity for
> insulin production. It is inevitable that we will all become
> diabetic should we live long enough.

It's inevitable that we'll all die if we live long enough too :-)

> The point is this, if you use this finite resource up by
> placing unreasonable demands upon it, then you will become
> diabetic earlier than would otherwise be the case.

But what about those sugar junkies wo live to over 100yo. My wife's
grandmother for one (103) takes more sugar in one cup of coffee than I can
squeeze into the sugar bowl. She's not diabetic.

> The factors that make the rate of use vary from individual
> to individual without placing abnormal loading on the
> system, vary as much as we all are differnt from each other
> and there can be no set rule or measure that determines how
> each will fare.

So basically, some of us may live long enough to not become diabetic OR die?
:-)

> All that can be done is to be aware and not to 'over fuel'
> or use the wrong or inappropriate fuel.

Diabetes is (I believe) a genetic thing as much as a "fuel usage" thing.

> We are esigned by nature to eat when hungry and when it is
> necessary. We are not designed to eat three times a day at
> set times and this is just one of many factors in human
> society that contributes to the current problem.

What if you get hungry 3 times a day at the same times?

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Pete - 27 Oct 2006 15:38 GMT
>> Just one of my ramblings:

>> When born, we are provided with a finite capacity for
>> insulin production. It is inevitable that we will all become
>> diabetic should we live long enough.

>It's inevitable that we'll all die if we live long enough too :-)

>> The point is this, if you use this finite resource up by
>> placing unreasonable demands upon it, then you will become
>> diabetic earlier than would otherwise be the case.

>But what about those sugar junkies wo live to over 100yo. My wife's
>grandmother for one (103) takes more sugar in one cup of coffee than I can
>squeeze into the sugar bowl. She's not diabetic.

Just one of those variations in life, there is never a
precise template. I suppose one day the medical guru's will
discover all the variable genetic codes that determine how
the mechanism's work.

I's a bit like 'why do diesel engines work and petrol
engines work'. They use different forms of the same basic
fuel.

>> The factors that make the rate of use vary from individual
>> to individual without placing abnormal loading on the
>> system, vary as much as we all are differnt from each other
>> and there can be no set rule or measure that determines how
>> each will fare.

>So basically, some of us may live long enough to not become diabetic OR die?
>:-)

Some will live and die of something or other and never
become diabetic.

>> All that can be done is to be aware and not to 'over fuel'
>> or use the wrong or inappropriate fuel.

>Diabetes is (I believe) a genetic thing as much as a "fuel usage" thing.

Only insomuch that everyone is born with differing
tollerences to all sorts of things. Just as that french
woman who smoked all her life, gave up at 85 but started
again at 100!!!!. Compared to Roy Castle??

>> We are esigned by nature to eat when hungry and when it is
>> necessary. We are not designed to eat three times a day at
>> set times and this is just one of many factors in human
>> society that contributes to the current problem.

>What if you get hungry 3 times a day at the same times?

If you have not been trained to behave like that, then
perhaps it's your body's preferred way. I get hungry when my
available resources are low.
Beav - 30 Oct 2006 21:10 GMT
>>> Just one of my ramblings:
>
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> Just one of those variations in life, there is never a
> precise template.

Ahh, but you said it's inevitable that we'll all be diabetic if we liove
long enough. That's a pretty fixed template.

I suppose one day the medical guru's will
> discover all the variable genetic codes that determine how
> the mechanism's work.

I just want them to be able to switch the gene off.

> I's a bit like 'why do diesel engines work and petrol
> engines work'. They use different forms of the same basic
> fuel.

And they work in remarkably similar ways. In fact, the only real difference
is the compression ratio.

>>> The factors that make the rate of use vary from individual
>>> to individual without placing abnormal loading on the
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> Some will live and die of something or other and never
> become diabetic.

Thusly killing your original statement stone dead.

>>> All that can be done is to be aware and not to 'over fuel'
>>> or use the wrong or inappropriate fuel.
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> Only insomuch that everyone is born with differing
> tollerences to all sorts of things.

Or with a faulty gene. Without the gene to make us diabetic, we'd have no
intolerance to sugar, would we?

Just as that french
> woman who smoked all her life, gave up at 85 but started
> again at 100!!!!. Compared to Roy Castle??

Genes again innit?

>>> We are esigned by nature to eat when hungry and when it is
>>> necessary. We are not designed to eat three times a day at
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> perhaps it's your body's preferred way. I get hungry when my
> available resources are low.

I just get hungry. All day, every day with peaks of hunger about 3 times
each day :-)

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