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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / October 2006Colossal posts
Hi, I was under the impression that newsgroups were about *news*, not about enormous posts better suited to websites (as full articles). A post referring to the appropriate URL and a synopsis are all that are required (a *short* synopsis too). If a post is over 100 lines I won't bother to read it - and I doubt most will. If you're happy for your posts to be largely ignored, carry on. Me, I've got better things to read - and better things to do.  SignatureTake care, Phil. "Time wounds all heels." http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/diabetes.html http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/index.html Diagnosed Type 2 December 2005 Metformin, 3 × 500 mg Gliclazide, 2 × 80 mg Simvastatin, 1 × 40 mg Aspirin, 1 × 75 mg Perindopril, 1 × 4 mg Bendroflumethazide, 1 × 2.5 mg Coversyl, 1 × 4 mg Bendroflumethiazide, 1 × 2.5 mg Beclometasone Diproprionate Nasal Spray Diet and Exercise 70 kg (fairly) stable >If you're happy for your posts to be largely ignored, carry on. >Me, I've got better things to read - and better things to do. If you're referring to Rich Murray, Phil, forget it. He's not listening to anything other than the voices in his head. Cheers, Alan, Australia >>If you're happy for your posts to be largely ignored, carry on. >>Me, I've got better things to read - and better things to do. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Cheers, Alan, Australia Notice that his ramblings are all about mental disorders. Methinks the tinfoil under his hat needs rearranging. Hi, Although Rich Murray prompted the observation (his post crashed my NewsReader!) he is not particularly the target, tinfoil hat or no. There have been long borin' finger-in-ear'ole dirges from a few others, not all serial super-posters like Herr Murray. Alan, your posts are usually short and to the point. Stratman, I don't remember you posting at unnecessary length. But some do the NG thing of bottom-posting a few lines while quoting the whole thread above - aargh! Others post a line (usually only one) in the middle of a vast quote - why I can't imagine. And the sensible ones only quote what's germane *if necessary*, knowing that most can read the whole thread at Google for years afterward. The point is valid even to the Rich Murrays of this world. Very few (if any) will read enormous posts, most won't even try. This means that the object of such posts is self-defeating. OK, I realise that some such posters, maybe most of 'em, are too stupid to understand that. But if just one realises that vast posts are *stupid* then the exercise was worthwhile! Back to Sonny Rollins now - heaven on Earth. Take care, Phil. "Time wounds all heels." Diagnosed Type 2 December 2005 Metformin, 3 × 500 mg Gliclazide, 2 × 80 mg Simvastatin, 1 × 40 mg Diet and Exercise 70 kg (fairly) stable http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/diabetes.html http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/index.html >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >OK, I realise that some such posters, maybe most of 'em, are too stupid to understand that. >But if just one realises that vast posts are *stupid* then the exercise was worthwhile! "Usenet is a write-only medium" >Back to Sonny Rollins now - heaven on Earth. You have awesome taste in music. I have the one with a track including bagpipes . . . Hi Trinkwasser, You wrote: ¦| >Back to Sonny Rollins now - heaven on Earth. ¦| You have awesome taste in music. "Greensleeves" by Coleman Hawkins, "The Nutcracker Suite (Sweet?)" by Duke Ellington! Bliss, bliss, bliss. SignatureTake care, Phil. "Time wounds all heels." Diagnosed Type 2 December 2005 Metformin, 3 × 500 mg Gliclazide, 2 × 80 mg Simvastatin, 1 × 40 mg Diet and Exercise 70 kg (fairly) stable http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/diabetes.html http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/index.html >Hi Trinkwasser, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Bliss, bliss, bliss. I must finally get my record collection out of storage Abdullah Ibrahim Trane Miles Brotherhood Of Breath Stan Tracey Mike Osborne John Surman and they're still making it music that moves the soul, and also the feet Hi Trinkwasser, Today has been Fred Wedlock (who he!), Thelonius Monk and Buddy Rich *inter alia*. I quit dancing decades ago, long before my stroke made it impractical. But I still (sometimes) move to the music. I think it's very important that we should all relax - and even running a marathon can be relaxation. It's too easy to get fixated on a medical problem - which, of course, only exacerbates it. I used to walk a lot before the stroke and I hope to again soon. I think that kind of exercise (up to 24 km a day) masked my insulin-resistant diabetes very effectively - and I enjoyed it. When I walk this time I'll take my WalkMan as well as my stick. I'll listen to Folk, Rock, Classical, a little C&W (but not Jim Reeves - never Jim Reeves!) and a lot of Swing and Jazz. I will probably never be able to walk that far again - but I'll surely enjoy trying. The exercise, always good for you, is even more enjoyable with entertainment. And that's so important. If you don't enjoy what you're doing you *won't* do it. If you like listening to something, be it audiobooks, plays, music or whatever, listen to it while exercising. It can even mask pain! I haven't heard much Abdullah Ibrahim and I haven't even heard of the Brotherhood Of Breath or Mike Osborne. Though I love John Coltrane's music I can happily live without Miles Davis. I did buy Kind Of Blue - but only 'cos it was cheap in HMV. It's OK. Stan Tracey and John Surman I rate quite highly but I've no CDs of them - yet. I saw Stan Tracey supporting Art Blakey at Scott's over 30 years ago. My next two albums are a 4 CD set of early Louis Armstrong and one of three Jimmy Yancey CDs. I'll buy the others as I can afford them - the owner of the record shop is a jazz freak and a friend. Oh, and I've spent a *lot* of money there - mostly on Ellingtonia. SignatureTake care, Phil. "Time wounds all heels." Diagnosed Type 2 December 2005 Metformin - 3 × 500 mg, Gliclazide - 2 × 80 mg, Simvastatin - 1 × 40 mg Diet and Exercise 70 kg (fairly) stable http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/diabetes.html http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/index.html. >Hi Trinkwasser, > >Today has been Fred Wedlock (who he!), Thelonius Monk and Buddy Rich *inter alia*. If you like folk try the Kipper Family My tastes there go back to the Fairports, Steeleye Span and their ilk, recently I've recorded some TV programmes, Folk Britannia, The Highland Sessions, Kathryn Tickell (Northumbrian pipes) Someone once asked Monk how often he and his band rehearsed "Rehearse?" <indignant look> "You mean cheat?" >I quit dancing decades ago, long before my stroke made it impractical. >But I still (sometimes) move to the music. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I used to walk a lot before the stroke and I hope to again soon. >I think that kind of exercise (up to 24 km a day) masked my insulin-resistant diabetes very effectively - and I enjoyed it. Yes I'm wondering about my cousin, he walks and runs daily and also swims, and I've caught him more than once nodding out after a meal. I should stick his finger before he wakes up <G> actually if he *has* inherited a touch of the same genetics he's doing most of the right things except eating too many carbs, and if it does catch up with him in later years he can use my funeral as a wake-up call >When I walk this time I'll take my WalkMan as well as my stick. >I'll listen to Folk, Rock, Classical, a little C&W (but not Jim Reeves - never Jim Reeves!) and a lot of Swing and Jazz. >I will probably never be able to walk that far again - but I'll surely enjoy trying. >The exercise, always good for you, is even more enjoyable with entertainment. Strange, I've always needed the sounds of nature when I'm out and about, I keep music for when I'm indoors. >And that's so important. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >I haven't heard much Abdullah Ibrahim and I haven't even heard of the Brotherhood Of Breath or Mike Osborne. Abdullah Ibrahim used to be Dollar Brand, Brotherhood was Chris McGregor, Dudu Pukwana, Mongesi Fesa and a whole bunch of other South Africans who came over here long ago as the Blue Notes ( I love South African music but hate the regime that produced it) Mike Osborne was one of that generation of Brits along with Surman, Tracey et al. kinda like a home-grown Ornette, did some very free duos with Tracey including Round Midnight >Though I love John Coltrane's music I can happily live without Miles Davis. >I did buy Kind Of Blue - but only 'cos it was cheap in HMV. >It's OK. Seems like you don't aprreciate the rougher side of the music >Stan Tracey and John Surman I rate quite highly but I've no CDs of them - yet. >I saw Stan Tracey supporting Art Blakey at Scott's over 30 years ago. Now THAT must have been a gig to remember >My next two albums are a 4 CD set of early Louis Armstrong and one of three Jimmy Yancey CDs. >I'll buy the others as I can afford them - the owner of the record shop is a jazz freak and a friend. > >Oh, and I've spent a *lot* of money there - mostly on Ellingtonia. So many records, so little time (well it may be off topic but it sure is good medicine) Hi Trinkwasser, Whilst I do like folk (you've seen 'The Great Western Thunderbox'?) I'm not intense about it at all. But I can't see much point in Steeleye Span's kind of folk-rock, I much prefer something more personal. Steeleye always seemed a bit clinical, sort of Curved Air for folkies. How many farewell tours have Fairport Convention done now? When I lived where the traffic noise didn't drown out nature I very rarely took, let alone used, a WalkMan. Where I live now a very noisy main road runs through the valley. The nearest sound to birdsong is a Kentucky Fried Chicken truck. Fortunately you can't see the traffic from the footpaths. I enjoy walking, even though it's still a bit painful. If I can get to 7 or 8 kilometres daily I should (I hope) be able better to control my insulin-resistant diabetes. I've got a sculling machine for when the weather is too bad for walking and to help me build fitness meantime. Two miles away is a decent pub. I'd like to be able to walk there for lunch (and back, of course). My aim is to be able to do that by next summer. And there's another good pub three miles away! It may seem silly to some - but I need a reason beyond exercise to walk. I'va always been the same, it's not a new phenomenon. A light pub lunch is, for me, a good reason. As I said, I've heard a little Abdullah Ibrahim (aka Dollar Brand - I knew that <G>). The South African jazzers I've never heard - but don't worry, I will. Miles Davis is not rough! Now Coltrane, Coleman, Sun Ra, they're rough. I like 'em (Frank Zappa too). Yesterday was 3 CDs - Gerry Mulligan, Joe Pass and Oscar Peterson (Louis Armstrong and Jimmy Yancey hadn't arrived). The Art Blakey gig *was* terrific. I was interviewing Ronnie (with a colleague) and the gig ran on until just before 05.00. You see, the Basie band were resting in London and some of them were at a dockside workshop session that night (this was 1973, I think). At 02.00 there was (then) only one place they'd go to wind down - Scott's. They had one drink and then joined Blakey. "Lockjaw" was amongst them (the tallest) and mesmerised the whole club with a 40 minute solo of genius. That was heaven. Heaven too was listening to Stephane Grappelli when the whole audience was - *me*! Chinatown. SignatureTake care, Phil. "Time wounds all heels." Diagnosed Type 2 December 2005 Metformin - 3 × 500 mg, Gliclazide - 2 × 80 mg, Simvastatin - 1 × 40 mg Diet and Exercise 70 kg (fairly) stable http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/diabetes.html http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/index.html >Hi Trinkwasser, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >How many farewell tours have Fairport Convention done now? Vaughan Williams and Holst (and Bartok and Kodaly in Hungary) did a lot of work collecting and even recording folk music and incorporating it into their compositions, but after that it somewhat became elistist finger in ear stuff until the Steeleye Convention folks mainstreamed it. It was in the sixties and seventies that I first got really turned on to music, and my tastes have spread from there in both directions through time. >When I lived where the traffic noise didn't drown out nature I very rarely took, let alone used, a WalkMan. >Where I live now a very noisy main road runs through the valley. >The nearest sound to birdsong is a Kentucky Fried Chicken truck. > >Fortunately you can't see the traffic from the footpaths. Put your shoes on and get out! >I enjoy walking, even though it's still a bit painful. >If I can get to 7 or 8 kilometres daily I should (I hope) be able better to control my insulin-resistant diabetes. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >I'va always been the same, it's not a new phenomenon. >A light pub lunch is, for me, a good reason. So long as it's not all covered in starch. Pub food has improved out of all measure in the last few years. >As I said, I've heard a little Abdullah Ibrahim (aka Dollar Brand - I knew that <G>). >The South African jazzers I've never heard - but don't worry, I will. Imagine Ellington mixed with African rhythms and call-and-response and hymn-tune harmonies, and searing emotion >Miles Davis is not rough! Agharta? Played loud as instructed on the sleeve? >Now Coltrane, Coleman, Sun Ra, they're rough. >I like 'em (Frank Zappa too). Brilliant Sun Ra story from a documentary "Brother From Another Planet": when he had his stroke the cardiologist called for a neurological consult "I have a patient who claims to be Sun Ra from the Planet Saturn" Fortunately the neurologist was a jazz fan "You fool! That IS Sun Ra and he IS from Saturn!" >Yesterday was 3 CDs - Gerry Mulligan, Joe Pass and Oscar Peterson (Louis Armstrong and Jimmy Yancey hadn't arrived). > >The Art Blakey gig *was* terrific. >I was interviewing Ronnie (with a colleague) and the gig ran on until just before 05.00. >You see, the Basie band were resting in London and some of them were at a dockside workshop session that night (this was 1973, I think). >At 02.00 there was (then) only one place they'd go to wind down - Scott's. One could only wish someone had recorded it >They had one drink and then joined Blakey. >"Lockjaw" was amongst them (the tallest) and mesmerised the whole club with a 40 minute solo of genius. >That was heaven. > >Heaven too was listening to Stephane Grappelli when the whole audience was - *me*! >Chinatown. Sadly I never knew anyone that famous Hi, Aah! Most people do not mean 'foreign' folk as well as 'indigenous' folk. By your (proper) definition folk covers a wide variety of sins. By that definition jazz itself could be considered, at least partly, as a form of folk. In fact Fred Wedlock, on "The Oldest Swinger In Town", plays Django's "Nuages" (which segues into "I've Got Rhythm"). My father worked with Vaughan Williams (and Schlesinger, Betjeman - and several other 'famous' folk). He related a story about Vaughan Williams which is on the BTF fan site (http://www.britishtransportfilms.co.uk/). Wilfred Josephs wrote a symphony for a rather better film and Stanley Holloway was annoyed to find his monologue for "The Third Sam" had been written for him. You say "Put your shoes on and get out!" I wish it were that easy. I suffer now from panic attacks (curse that stroke!) so I can't walk anywhere I'm not fairly confident to walk. As I now live in a different place I need someone to walk with me the first time - after that I'm OK. Unfortunately the two friends that are here are currently unavailable to help me as they are in poor health at the moment. It is annoying as that kind of exercise is best for me - and I enjoy it. It should benefit my general health as well as help curb the effects of my insulin-resistant diabetes. I've never enjoyed starchy foods. A pub lunch for me is usually a couple of bitters and a salad sandwich (on whole meal bread). That's enough for me to feel fed and drunk! It seems that bitter beer, in moderation of course, has little effect on my blood glucose level. In fact beer (and wine) seem to cushion the effects of high carbohydrate food for me. Of course, it might just be optimism. Single malt scotch may have the same effect - but I don't care, I just enjoy it! I've never heard "Agharta" - and it sounds as though I wouldn't particularly like it. I saw that documentary about Sun Ra - very good. I particularly like Dexter Gordon and Lester Young ("The Prez") - and, of course, Ellington. But *nobody* is like Ellington (except possibly Strayhorn). I can't imagine Ellington mixed with African rhythms and call-and-response and hymn-tune harmonies, and searing emotion. Ellington *is* African rhythms, call-and-response, hymn-tune harmonies, and searing emotion - and a helluvalot more! Famous people are just ordinary people who usually have an extraordinary ability. John Betjeman was an apparently kindly old duffer with a very sly ability to give backhanded compliments and an astonishing arrogance. He also had an astonishing way with words. Ellington was a serial womaniser and a ruthless bandleader - and a great composer. Dylan Thomas was a drunkard of renown, a Welshman who couldn't speak Welsh - and a brilliant poet. Just folk. SignatureTake care, Phil. "Feathery ash in leathery Lambourn Waves above the sarsen stone, And Edwardian plantations So coniferously moan, As to make the swelling downland, Far-surrounding, seem their own." Diagnosed Type 2 December 2005 Metformin - 3 × 500 mg, Gliclazide - 2 × 80 mg, Simvastatin - 1 × 40 mg Diet and Exercise 70 kg (fairly) stable http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/diabetes.html http://uk.geocities.com/philadkinsp/index.html |
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