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Capt T - 23 Apr 2006 10:48 GMT

Thanks for all that advice it all seems to make sense and I will happily
return to egg for breakfast.
One last question is how does alcholol interplay with all this. I know it
can lower blood sugar but that is temporary. Does it do anything else. I
tend to have , I know its above guidlines etc, 4 or 5 night caps of the
scottish wine each evening.Will that affect anything ?

Thanks

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Flying Rat - 23 Apr 2006 11:51 GMT

> Thanks for all that advice it all seems to make sense and I will happily
> return to egg for breakfast.
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>
> Thanks

it can make you more prone to hypoglycaemia as it suppresses the
'bounceback' function where your liver will release energy if your BG
goes too low.

That's the main issue for me. Especially if you are on beta stimulator
drugs like the sulphonylureas (gliclazide etc) or insulin injections.
However a few nips of the good stuff is a lot better than a gutload of
sugary beer, but red wine is even more of a benefit if you fancy
changing to that.

My consultant is one of those who firmly believes you shouldn't cut
drinking out completely. He reckons if you can do it in moderation and
watch out for any problems, it is more of a benefit than anything.
Especially on the social side if you get out for a drink now and again,
as he thinks that is much more effective than antidepressants.

He is a diabetic too and his drink of choice is gin and tonic, or a few
glasses of red. Personally I can't see any problem with the fine
Scottish produce you mention, especially if it's a good one.

Ratty

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Pete - 23 Apr 2006 20:16 GMT

>Thanks for all that advice it all seems to make sense and I will happily
>return to egg for breakfast.
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>scottish wine each evening.Will that affect anything ?
>Thanks

Alcohol:

Supresses liver function, and also tends you towards
dehydration [thats what causes the hangover]. I am on
Glicklazide and Metformin and have found through trial and
error that a few lagers or numerous red wines, do not have
too detremental effect on me, over time. I occasionaly have
a single malt and that has a very 'drying' effect in that it
makes me quite thirsty.

One thing about being on meds though, it is not that easy to
get pissed.

A couple of sherbets now and then I think is good for me. I
would advise though that you do not use beer and stay away
from spirits if you can.

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Nicky - 23 Apr 2006 21:36 GMT

> One thing about being on meds though, it is not that easy to
> get pissed.

Works the opposite for me - a single glass of red will often send me low,
which turns out to be the feeling I had thought of as being pissed! And I'm
drinking far more since dx.

Nicky.

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W.M.McKee - 24 Apr 2006 00:17 GMT

>> One thing about being on meds though, it is not that easy to
>> get pissed.
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>Nicky.

I just measure and count... Most of the time, I enjoy two martinis in
the evenings. Sometimes, however, I enjoy a couple of glasses of dry
red, or white, wines... They must be dry, mind you, or else the BG is
adversely affected... that is simply my own experience. Ratty and
Peter are correct, however, in their statements that moderate alcohol
consumption in the evening will tend to lower your blood glucose the
next morning.

Will, T2

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Phil Aypee - 24 Apr 2006 08:58 GMT

Hi,

I drink far less - but I didn't cut down deliberately.

I usually have a half bottle of claret (red burgundy wine) or a couple of single malts, Scotch (with water) each day.
Occasionally I drink a couple of pints of bitter (real ale!) in a pub.

And occasionally it's a bit more!

It seems I never get pissed (intoxicated) now - but I was only diagnosed in early December 2005.

I don't drink (booze) every day.
I usually have one *wagon* day each week.

None of that is advice - I'm not qualified to offer advice - but it's what *I* do.
I don't want to give up as a drink or two makes me feel better.
Too much gives me a hangover which I *don't* enjoy - so moderation, though not my watchword, is a natural consequence.

But, interestingly, my *highs* (happy but not pissed) are milder.
It doesn't bother me but I'd really like to find a way of getting a better *high*.

Take care,
Phil.

"Bibo ergo sum -
I drink, therefore I am."

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Diagnosed December 2005
Metformin, 3 × 500 mg
Gliclazide, 2 × 80 mg
Simvastatin, 1 × 40 mg
(and a whole bunch of other stuff for other problems)

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