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Thomas Muffaletto - 31 May 2005 19:21 GMT
Well I did another 30 minute work out on my stepper today.
its really hard for me to do right now but I do it.
I put the music on really loud and just get lost in the music
and not think about working out - but I still keep in mind to have proper
form.
When ever I am done working out I feel so much better inside.
music and everything else just seems so much better. I find myself singing
along with songs
and feeling really good.  when I don't exercise I feel depressed so much so
I bet if a doctor
can tell how I felt I probably would get medications but when I work out
that all goes away.
if you feel depressed and don't exercise - TRY IT.
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Kurt - 31 May 2005 19:25 GMT
> Well I did another 30 minute work out on my stepper today.
> its really hard for me to do right now but I do it.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> that all goes away.
> if you feel depressed and don't exercise - TRY IT.

Tom,

This is a good analogy for one dealing with their diabetes "one step at
a time."  Keep up the good work and I agree with you, exercise can put
one in a much better mood.

Best,
Kurt
Thomas Muffaletto - 31 May 2005 22:26 GMT
I tried to include my reply to you in the other post but I sent it up too
fast.
each time I remove the weights that assist me I am taking another step
closer to using
the stepper with good form and no assist.
when using the pull up bar there was no way really to chart my progress.

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>
>> Well I did another 30 minute work out on my stepper today.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Best,
> Kurt
TerryR - 31 May 2005 20:10 GMT
Steppers are the best way to exercise, at least for me. I had a very bad
lower back. I was taking Vioxx which worked like magic but then they took it
off the market. I tried Bextra but it didn't work near as well as Vioxx and
then, they said it was bad too.

My girlfriend had a stepper that she never uses. She prefers to get her
exercise outside, biking and running. When I moved in she talked me into
trying the stepper, I was surprised to find it did not hurt my back, all
other means of exercise did. Now, 18 months later, my back almost never
bothers me. I credit the stepper for strengthen the muscles in my back.
Every day I do 30-60 minutes on the stepper while watching TV or listening
to music. A real experience is to use canal earphones and watch movies or
music videos while exercising. It is like being in another world. The canal
phones fit in the ear canal like hearing aids and isolate you from all
outside sound.

TerryR
Type2

> Well I did another 30 minute work out on my stepper today.
> its really hard for me to do right now but I do it.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> that all goes away.
> if you feel depressed and don't exercise - TRY IT.
Anon - 31 May 2005 22:20 GMT
I have a "slipped disk" in my back. When the pain gets bad I go to a
chiropractor. It usually takes 3 or 4 visits to get back to normal. He has
repeatedly told me that exercises to strengthen the muscles is my best bet
for long term relieve. I have tried the exercises he gives me but I can't do
enough of them to help because of the pain.

I have never tried a stepper, they have several in a gym at a military base
I visit. I'm going there this evening and try it. If I can use it, maybe I
can get results like you.

Anon

> Steppers are the best way to exercise, at least for me. I had a very bad
> lower back. I was taking Vioxx which worked like magic but then they took
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>> that all goes away.
>> if you feel depressed and don't exercise - TRY IT.
Thomas Muffaletto - 31 May 2005 22:23 GMT
> Steppers are the best way to exercise, at least for me. I had a very bad
> lower back. I was taking Vioxx which worked like magic but then they took
> it off the market. I tried Bextra but it didn't work near as well as Vioxx
> and then, they said it was bad too.

Are you still taking medications for your back? if not and you feel it is
because
of the exercise - talk to your doctor about doing crunches.

Steppers are a fantastic machine to give the lower body work out.
they help build bigger muscles in your legs and butt when compared to a
treadmill.
it is very important to follow the instructions closely while using a
stepper.
getting back to Kurts post for a moment and his comment about taking 1 step
at a time.
even tho I am not doing the 30 minutes with out cheating - I am doing what
has to be done
in order to complete the 30 minute work out with cheating and yet keeping
the best form I possible can.
I tried something new today.  I used to use the pull up bars on my pulley
machine to take some weight off.
today I hung a long bar between the 2 pulleys and used that to give me
enough of a cheat to complete the 30 minute work out.
this way each week I can remove some weights until I am not getting any help
and still using the best form I can.
I never let my knees go past my toes while doing any kind of leg exercise -

> My girlfriend had a stepper that she never uses. She prefers to get her
> exercise outside, biking and running. When I moved in she talked me into
> trying the stepper, I was surprised to find it did not hurt my back, all
> other means of exercise did. Now, 18 months later, my back almost never
> bothers me.

:) great news.

I credit the stepper for strengthen the muscles in my back.
> Every day I do 30-60 minutes on the stepper while watching TV or listening
> to music. A real experience is to use canal earphones and watch movies or
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> TerryR
> Type2

Keep up the great work - I try to stay away from the head phones thing for
music
I tend to put it on a bit tooo loud.
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palm - 08 Jun 2005 20:46 GMT
I have diabetes for couple of months, but I exercise (more or less) all
my life (I am 53). I am bicycling, and till year ago, had different
"NordicTracks" at home.
Year ago (not in connection with my T-2) I bought treadmill. Yes,
it's expensive, I paid for mine, like $600 (including $100 for
extended, three years warranty) but, with my lazy a.s, I think it worth
it.  The trick with treadmill is, that when you set it on 3.5 miles in
hour, you walk at a speed 3.5 miles in hour.    I never could force
myself to keep speed (on bike or "NordicTrack") for longer then ten
minutes.  Then I "swim away" with the surrounding or whatever I
watch on TV and slow down, till I remember what I am doing and speed up
for, some time, again.
Can't happen on treadmill! So, with treadmill, I exercise more
effectively.
Cheers.
Palm.
Thomas Muffaletto - 02 Jun 2005 18:43 GMT
Yesterday I did about 1 hour weight training.  I have been keeping track of
the weight I use and this time used a little less.
I love to work out with functional trainers and cant think of any single
machine that does more.
they come in all sizes and prices.  if you want the best one that is the
life fitness dual adjustable pulley system.
I have yet to find one that does as much and believe me I checked but like I
said they come in many shapes and prices.
look for 1 with a 4:1 resistance those will give you a great work out but
not much for body building - that is one of the things
mine has over all others I have seen it has the most weight.  you can also
do weight assisted pull ups with it along with any exercise you can think of
or make up.
today I did another 30 minute work out on the stepper and it was easier then
the last time :).
I sweat like crazy but feel great.

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>
> Well I did another 30 minute work out on my stepper today.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> that all goes away.
> if you feel depressed and don't exercise - TRY IT.
Thomas Muffaletto - 02 Jun 2005 18:49 GMT
> Well I did another 30 minute work out on my stepper today.
> its really hard for me to do right now but I do it.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> that all goes away.
> if you feel depressed and don't exercise - TRY IT.

I just wanted to add to this post.

the only thing that does depress me is that I feel I am not doing all
I can for my diabetes if I do not exercise.
by exercising i have nothing to be depressed about.
of course exercise does do more than help out my fight with diabetes.
Tom

> Tom
> Exercise Today = Life Tomorrow
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Thomas Muffaletto - 05 Jun 2005 18:27 GMT
I quit smoking just about every week end and do fine until Monday when I
have to do data entry.
this week end however I worked out instead of sitting around like a zombie.
I just completed another 30 minute stepper machine work out - I am sweating
like crazy but I love it.
sure I could have just cut the carbs but I would rather exercise.

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>> Well I did another 30 minute work out on my stepper today.
>> its really hard for me to do right now but I do it.
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>> Chat Live with Mr. Gantlet
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Alan S - 06 Jun 2005 03:39 GMT
>I quit smoking just about every week end and do fine until Monday when I
>have to do data entry.
>this week end however I worked out instead of sitting around like a zombie.
>I just completed another 30 minute stepper machine work out - I am sweating
>like crazy but I love it.
>sure I could have just cut the carbs but I would rather exercise.

I checked all the links from the ADA in the sig. Sorry, I
couldn't find the one recommending smoking. Do you have a
seperate link?

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
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Thomas Muffaletto - 06 Jun 2005 04:18 GMT
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>
>>I quit smoking just about every week end and do fine until Monday when I
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> couldn't find the one recommending smoking. Do you have a
> seperate link?

about as good and honest as the rest of your posts.
for those that smoke - here are about 10 pages filled with links about
smoking and diabetes.

when ever you have a question about a product or anything about diabetes
check out that page
and put a key word in the search box.

http://google.diabetes.org/search?q=smoking&ie=&site=my_collection&restrict=main
_site%7Cstore%7Cvgs&output=xml_no_dtd&client=my_collection&btnG.y=0&btnG.y=0&lr=
&btnG.x=0&btnG.x=0&proxystylesheet=my_collection&oe=&Search.x=11&Search.y=4


> Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
JR - 02 Jun 2006 02:00 GMT
Nice link. I added to my favorites.

>about as good and honest as the rest of your posts.
>for those that smoke - here are about 10 pages filled with links about
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>http://google.diabetes.org/search?q=smoking&ie=&site=my_collection&restrict=main
_site%7Cstore%7Cvgs&output=xml_no_dtd&client=my_collection&btnG.y=0&btnG.y=0&lr=
&btnG.x=0&btnG.x=0&proxystylesheet=my_collection&oe=&Search.x=11&Search.y=4
Ozgirl - 02 Jun 2006 03:03 GMT
> Nice link. I added to my favorites.

Wow this was an answer to a post from a year ago ;)
Nicky - 04 Jun 2006 18:45 GMT
>> Nice link. I added to my favorites.
>
> Wow this was an answer to a post from a year ago ;)

I haven't seen Tom around for a while - has he gone quiet?

Nicky.

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Thomas Muffaletto - 06 Jun 2005 21:07 GMT
Just finished a 1 hour weight training work out.
I started off with 5 minutes on the stationary bike for a warm up.
followed by 3 sets of 50 crunches with 37.5 lbs  the first set of crunches
I lost count and may have done about 70 lol I lost track thinking about all
the craziness going on in here
as a result I ended up on the floor with cramps and didn't do the other 2
sets of crunches till the end of the work out.
followed by 3 sets of 20 for each of the following
flies
lat pull downs
side laterals
curls
tricep curls

I am not really body building at this point so for me the leg work out is
3 days a week using the stepper.  if my upper body starts to get much bigger
than my legs
I will start to weight train them as well.

I feel great.  soon I will include in-depth details about my meals and the
blood sugar levels.

30 minutes of cardio each or every other day also works very well.

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>I quit smoking just about every week end and do fine until Monday when I
>have to do data entry.
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Thomas Muffaletto - 06 Jun 2005 21:21 GMT
just had to change the date in the subject line.

> Just finished a 1 hour weight training work out.
> I started off with 5 minutes on the stationary bike for a warm up.
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Thomas Muffaletto - 07 Jun 2005 20:30 GMT
Just completed another 30 minute work out on the stepper :).
I am happy to see that I showed progress.  usually the stepper would show
that in 30 minutes I walked up 50 flights of stairs ( yea I know but that is
what it says )
today it showed 52 flights :).  1 step at a time - 1 floor increase at a
time.
it really made the end of the work out something special for me to see that
extra 2 flights.
the scale also showed a loss of 8 pounds this week.

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> just had to change the date in the subject line.
>
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Alan S - 08 Jun 2005 00:39 GMT
>the scale also showed a loss of 8 pounds this week.

Congratulations! I knew you had to be losing with all that
exercise.

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
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Thomas Muffaletto - 08 Jun 2005 20:05 GMT
please keep in mind that 2 1/2 years ago after walking 1 block
I had to stop because of pains in my leg.
Just completed another 1 hour weight training work out.
I added 5lbs to each arm on curls.

here are my blood sugar numbers for today :).

these numbers are just for your reading.
if you want to do the right thing work with your doctor n dietitian for
exercise and nutrition.
about 10am woke up - didn't do the FBS thing.
ate oatmeal at 10am
at 11:30 had 15 carbs of whole grain rye cracker and 3/4 cup of milk.
at 12:30 my blood sugar was 131
at 1:15 my blood sugar was 119
ate half of a big orange
while working out I drank 20 carbs of exercise drink
after 1 hour work out my blood sugar was 95 - time to eat
had 1/4 large orange and will slowly drink another 20 carbs of exercise
drink
over the next hour
2:55pm blood sugar was 103.
Time for lunch :) - don't know what im having yet :).

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> Just completed another 30 minute work out on the stepper :).
> I am happy to see that I showed progress.  usually the stepper would show
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Hi_Therre - 08 Jun 2005 22:56 GMT
>please keep in mind that 2 1/2 years ago after walking 1 block
>I had to stop because of pains in my leg.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>2:55pm blood sugar was 103.
>Time for lunch :) - don't know what im having yet :).

You have the Midas touch.  Keep up the good work.
Nicky - 08 Jun 2005 23:19 GMT
> please keep in mind that 2 1/2 years ago after walking 1 block
> I had to stop because of pains in my leg.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> 2:55pm blood sugar was 103.
> Time for lunch :) - don't know what im having yet :).

Tom, the idea is:

fasting
Pre-breakfast
1 hour after breakfast
2 hours after breakfast
pre-lunch
1 hour after lunch
2 hours after lunch
pre evening meal
1 hour after evening meal
2 hours after evening meal
bedtime

If you're exercising, don't do the next test - the exercise should take care
of any loose carbs. Just one set of tests around a meal, plus the carbs and
protein eaten, would be fascinating.

Nicky.

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Thomas Muffaletto - 11 Jun 2005 10:16 GMT
Today I had a really good work out :).  for 1 I invented a new to me
exercise - double arm
tri cept cable cross overs :).   that worked my triceps unlike any other
exercise I have ever done.
I also changed the way I did curls today.  usually I would do double arm
preacher curls today
I back into the machine had my arms at my sides like a regular curl - wow
much better than free weights.
constant equal resistance throughout the movement.  I have done cable curls
many times in the past but nothing like this.
When it comes to muscles its either use them or lose them - your choice.   I
lost mine but I want them back.
30 minutes - 1 hour every day or every other day is all it takes for a
better life.
I just finished working but wanted to do my exercise log before I shut down.
Next time I weight train I am going to try eating more and see what happens.

Tom
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> please keep in mind that 2 1/2 years ago after walking 1 block
> I had to stop because of pains in my leg.
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Nicky - 11 Jun 2005 15:03 GMT
> I just finished working but wanted to do my exercise log before I shut
> down.
> Next time I weight train I am going to try eating more and see what
> happens.

Sounds a good workout! I'm glad I only do free weights so you don't need to
explain your triceps thingy to me : )

What were your pre- and post- meal bgs beforehand?

Nicky.

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Thomas Muffaletto - 15 Jun 2005 19:45 GMT
Even tho I have not posted about it I have not missed a days work out in a
while.
I no longer cheat while doing my stepper :) but I do hold my self up
slightly with the support bars.
today I did 1 hour weight training and I love to see the progress I am
making.
I never kept charts like I am doing now.  in the past I would just hit the
weight and do what ever I felt like.
now what I do is 3 sets of 20 for each exercise - I pick a weight that I am
able to lift 20 times max and need to rest.
I stay with that weight until I can do 3 sets resting 2 minutes between
sets.
recently I added some weight to my curls and was only able to finish the
first set of 20 after that it was
10 reps for my 2nd and 3rd set.  today I completed 2 sets and maxed out at
about 15 on my 3rd set.
I figure I should be able to do the 3 complete sets on Friday.
right  now I am doing 3 days cardio for 30 minutes - last cardio I kept my
heart rate between 140 and 150 for 30 minutes.
I am wondering if that is how I should do my cardio - use the heart rate
monitor instead of just thinking about what level I am on.
I no longer feel I want to hide behind my jacket in fact with the crunches I
am doing I kind of like walking around with just a shirt on.
I am doing it - you can to.  just 30 - 60 minutes a day that time will pass
no matter what you do.
in fact when I feel like I can not complete a set I think that way - 1 more
minute at a time its going to pass anyway
might as well do something good with it.

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> Today I had a really good work out :).  for 1 I invented a new to me
> exercise - double arm
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rich - 15 Jun 2005 21:29 GMT
> Even tho I have not posted about it I have not missed a days work out in a
> while.

It's great that you are trimming your body.  Could you maybe also trim the
quoting in your posts.  This one was 11k of mostly repetition including 6 or
7 copies of your sig block.  You may not have realized that.  Thanks

Rich
Thomas Muffaletto - 15 Jun 2005 23:38 GMT
had to change date
looked at the wrong watch for the date again :(

> Even tho I have not posted about it I have not missed a days work out in a
> while.
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RK - 16 Jun 2005 02:44 GMT
lol and that one was 12k.. but hey it's only bandwidth. <g>

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> had to change date
> looked at the wrong watch for the date again :(
Thomas Muffaletto - 06 Jul 2005 02:24 GMT
Today I recieved the results of the xrays.. seems there are a few things
going on,
too many to mention right now.
One the way home i stopped by a physical therapist and had my first
appointment.
I was told not to do the 30 minutes of the stepper and to stop all body
building for now.
I was told to do 10 minutes a day on the stepper and some streching
exercises.
When I see her again she is going to show me the types of exercises she does
want me to do
for what is going on.  Good news is the scale in my doctors office showed a
loss of 10lbs
that may seem like alot and I guess it is but I have been eating very well
:).

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Alan S - 06 Jul 2005 03:26 GMT
>Good news is the scale in my doctors office showed a
>loss of 10lbs that may seem like alot and I guess it
> is but I have been eating very well
>:).

Way to go!!

Cheers Alan, T2, Australia.
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Hi_Therre - 06 Jul 2005 12:12 GMT
>Today I recieved the results of the xrays.. seems there are a few things
>going on,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>that may seem like alot and I guess it is but I have been eating very well
>:).

Did you hurt yourself by lifting to much weight?
Thomas Muffaletto - 06 Jul 2005 15:55 GMT
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>
>>Today I recieved the results of the xrays.. seems there are a few things
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>
> Did you hurt yourself by lifting to much weight?

when I am able to do 3 sets of 20 it isn't usually thought of as to much
weight.
although when I told my physical therapist about my work out she said it was
to much to soon.
she wasn't really talking about the weight lifting seemed more concerned
with my 30 minutes
at a time on the stepper.
on the last day that I did do weight training I tried a new exercise and the
weight was to heavy for
my to do even 10 reps.
my doctor although she wants me to lose weight said these things are a sign
of age
I think its a combination of my body being older than it is because of the
shape I am in
and my going to hard to fast in my work outs.
even with taking Hydrocodone I am unable to walk with out extreme pain for
about 20 minutes.
I must deal with that 20 minutes if I want to be able to move at all.  if I
lay down again I will have to deal with it all over again.
but I will do my 10 minutes today as per the doctors request.
Tom
Thomas Muffaletto - 07 Jul 2005 06:11 GMT
I went to the physical therapist again today because the Hydrocodone aint
killin the pain.
it took all my strength to be able to walk to the corner store.  but after
moving around 30 minutes
in extreme pain everying is fine.  it only happens if i lay down - it did
get worse since the 4th of july
and that might be a sign that I was to active. I was told not even to do the
10 minutes on the stepper
but she does want me to do some stretching and light crunches.  I talked her
into letting my lift some light weights.
Tom
Hi_Therre - 07 Jul 2005 13:05 GMT
>I went to the physical therapist again today because the Hydrocodone aint
>killin the pain.
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>into letting my lift some light weights.
>Tom

I can only suggest you change your habits to a more sense based
routine.  How has this problem affected your high carb diet?  Without
extensive exercise, a high carb diet will definitely push your BG's to
the 400 range.  I hope you can keep your BG's under control.
mrslang - 07 Jul 2005 18:09 GMT
> >I went to the physical therapist again today because the Hydrocodone aint
> >killin the pain.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> extensive exercise, a high carb diet will definitely push your BG's to
> the 400 range.  I hope you can keep your BG's under control.

your advice and faux concern and predictions are unwarrented.  Tom
doesn't eat a high carb diet.

Sally
Hi_Therre - 07 Jul 2005 21:57 GMT
>> >I went to the physical therapist again today because the Hydrocodone aint
>> >killin the pain.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>your advice and faux concern and predictions are unwarrented.  Tom
>doesn't eat a high carb diet.

200 carbs is not a high carb diet?  Since when?
Thomas Muffaletto - 07 Jul 2005 22:29 GMT
Immmmmmm BACK!!!!!!!

I started today with doing very light stretches and crunches in bed.
I woke up an hour before I had to get up so I could take the pain killers
and have them working for when I do get out of bed.
I did my weight training with light enough weight that I did not feel any
strain on my hips.
basically 1 arm at a time to lessen the load.
the amount of weight and reps on my crunches was cut way down.
for now I am doing 3 sets of 20 with only 20 lbs.  I was using 42.5 pounds 3
sets of 20.
while my work out may have sound like a nightmare to some in here it wasn't
really that bad at all.
no body knows what caused the pain but there are some suspects.
while I worked on my raised flower bed - at 1 point I did do more than I
should have. <-- more than any exercise I do.

it could have been a new exercise I tried and started with to much weight.
<---- biggest suspect.

it could have also been that I increased the time on my stepper too fast
and didn't let my joints adjust ( smooth out or what ever ).

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Nicky - 07 Jul 2005 23:07 GMT
> Immmmmmm BACK!!!!!!!

Start low...go slow! Repeat as necessary : )

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Grandpa Chuck - 07 Jul 2005 23:07 GMT
> Immmmmmm BACK!!!!!!!
>
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> it could have also been that I increased the time on my stepper too fast
> and didn't let my joints adjust ( smooth out or what ever ).

That is great Tom. You are doing a lot more than many of us would do,
especially while in pain. I do my darnedest to work through my back
pain when I can, but as you know it ain't always easy.

You have shown me and others that one can work out in spite of pain
and get some progress going. Keep it up and keep us informed.

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Thomas Muffaletto - 08 Jul 2005 16:31 GMT
> X-No-Archive: yes
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> especially while in pain. I do my darnedest to work through my back pain
> when I can, but as you know it ain't always easy.

Well I get motivated thinking that this extreme pain will end soon.
I have found in order for my pain killers to work I have to take double the
recommended amount.<--- not advizing anyone do the same.
the next time I see my doctor I will bring it up.

> You have shown me and others that one can work out in spite of pain and
> get some progress going. Keep it up and keep us informed.

I can honestly say this post has touched me.  sure if it helps motivate
others
I will post about it.
all I can say is learn from my mistake - I wont say I was working out to
hard
because I dont know - but I am pretty sure if i took things slower and
looked to protect
my back more from the begining I would not have this problem.
I know most of the exercising the physical theropist is telling me to do but
working with
her is helping me do things like stretches.
there are different kinds of stretches.
i kind of think of my physical theropist like an affordable work out
trainer.
if I didnt have insurance it would only cost me $40 a visit.
my insurance will only pay for 30 visits per year but I think I am going to
continue
working with her for a while.  this might lead into a yoga class for me - or
kick boxing im not sure.
thanks for the post and good luck with your exercise.   I am really happy to
read about dianas exercise as well.
lol she is now working more than I am supposed to :).
Tom
Thomas Muffaletto - 07 Jul 2005 22:36 GMT
>> >I went to the physical therapist again today because the Hydrocodone
>> >aint
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>> routine.
> How has this problem affected your high carb diet?

Well I should cut back down to about 200 carbs a day.
45 carbs 5 x a day.

Without
>> extensive exercise, a high carb diet will definitely push your BG's to
>> the 400 range.

lol well yea a diet high in carbs could even push me to the 600 range.
- but I am not on a high carb diet - only to those on low carb diets call
it high carb.
doctors usually call it low fat - but you should have seen me on the 4th.

>I hope you can keep your BG's under control.

thank you - I do very easily

> your advice and faux concern and predictions are unwarrented.  Tom
> doesn't eat a high carb diet.
>
> Sally

no body knows if it was my exercise - the weights I used were light but the
reps high.
the biggest contributor was probably my weight.
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Thomas Muffaletto - 07 Jul 2005 22:42 GMT
>> >I went to the physical therapist again today because the Hydrocodone
>> >aint
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
> Sally

it truly is amazing how some never get bored with diet wars.
they can turn thread after thread into a diet war.
talk about Jesus and they will talk about the bread at the last supper.
they can have the same fight day after day - month after month.
some act like very aggressive sales people that always mix up fact with
opinion.
Thomas Muffaletto - 12 Jul 2005 00:36 GMT
Good news is that today was the first day I didn't need to take pain
medications.
I hurt a little in the morning and now I just feel like a played a game of
football.
during these last 2 weeks I fell back into the comfortzone and am feeling
very lazy.

I was finally given enough exercises today that actually feel like I am
doing something.
mostly just stretching and these will one day become a part of my wieght
training work out.

I have been given a lot of thought to what could have caused this pain and
what on my part
I could have done wrong to pinch this nerve ( im pretty sure that is what it
had to be )
the weights I was using are more on the light side of strenth training and I
always felt better
after a work out than before.
one of the things I liked most about my new dual pulley system was that I
could do things like
bench pressing while standing.  if you stand for a second and picture
youself benchpressing some weights
you will notice your legs have to push forward while your torso is pulled
back from the wieghts.
all that stress is held at my spine.  picture a football player getting
tackled from the front at the chest
and from behind at the legs.  I dont know if i am right about that but I do
not like that strain on my lower back.
soo looks like I will be buying a bench and might as well get one with a leg
station on it.
I would like to start working with weights again on monday.
bad news is i have to make room for the new bench so I am going to get rid
of my stationary bike
or my stepper.   I am thinking about selling the stepper.  I dont know how
much I will sell if for yet
maybe I will just put it down stairs in storage and wait until I can get
about $600.

Tom
Nicky - 12 Jul 2005 13:14 GMT
> all that stress is held at my spine.  picture a football player getting
> tackled from the front at the chest
> and from behind at the legs.  I dont know if i am right about that but I
> do not like that strain on my lower back.

Doesn't sound good. have you painted that picture for your physio, does
he/she agree?

> soo looks like I will be buying a bench and might as well get one with a
> leg station on it.

I use a Swiss ball as a bench - helps core muscles, more fun, lots of uses.

Start low! Go slow! : )

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Thomas Muffaletto - 13 Jul 2005 19:51 GMT
Starting over.
today I did my first work out with a few different exercises.
all I did was 10 minutes on the stationary bike level 1.
some stretches and a few regular crunches.
then I did 20 crunches with 20lbs followed by a few more stretches.
as little as it was I felt more tired than my work outs before I pinched my
nerve.
it is going to take will power to get excited about this work out but I must
start over
and the first step is preparing my total body.
in a way I am glad this has happened  once I get back into the swing of
things
I believe I will be a bit more healthy and flexible.

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Nicky - 13 Jul 2005 21:00 GMT
> it is going to take will power to get excited about this work out but I
> must start over

Tom, how about doing some yoga or pilates classes to get your core strength
back up before getting serious with the workouts?

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Nicky - 06 Jul 2005 12:52 GMT
> Today I recieved the results of the xrays.. seems there are a few things
> going on,
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> a loss of 10lbs
> that may seem like alot and I guess it is but I have been eating very well

Sounds positive, Tom - I hope there is a route for you through all this.

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