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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / September 2007End for me.
Guy will skip your post in the future, A waste of time. > Guy will skip your post in the future, A waste of time. Who are you talking to?  SignatureSee my webpage: http://mysite.verizon.net/juliebove/index.htm Julie, the situation here make it impossible to do the needed functions, The individuals are not the problem. They will exist anywhere he system allows them to abuse. We have about a dozen local cases of underage inducements. We have dozen of underage pregnancies of very young girls. When they are asked why most will indicate the internet was the enticement that led to problems. Go to the use net and see over half of the groups are undesirable type. sh.t always attracts flies, The recent election showed that many are fed up with some of our antisocial actions. One approach discussed is to shut down some internet functions and regroup from what has been learned. sh.t heads seem to think this cannot happen. They also have other misconceptions. The attendance of groups opposed to an uncontrolled society is increasing. The issue of sexual anarchy is becoming more important. The attitude of the US is changing. The problems for the crazies is in the long term is they self destruct. Most are all mouth trying to exploit others. Julie, there is no profit in being a soundboard for the disturbed. I need the group much less that a lot of people here. There are a lot of problems with the internet. Identify theft is a biggie and the losses to business will be the thing that breaks the system. Fixes are hacked before they can be installed. That is one of many reasons there is great concern by the people that can pass laws and have the clout to enforce them. >> Guy will skip your post in the future, A waste of time. > >Who are you talking to? Anyone thart it fits. > One approach discussed is to shut down some > internet functions and regroup from what has > been learned. > sh.t heads seem to think this cannot happen. > They also have other misconceptions. Guy, you forget the internet is a worldwide thing not controlled by any one government. Now, while I think the U Swill invade every country in the world eventually, it will not do so for a very long time. Until such time as it does then it will have no control over the internet in other countries. Something as international as usenet cannot be shut down just because the US doesn't like it. Same goes for chatrooms and everything else. Shut them down in the US if that's what you want but, because the internet crosses all international boundaries, they will just spring up somewhere else in a country that doesn't have the draconian censorship of the US. Get a clue Guy, you are just making yourself look even sillier than usual. Phildo >> One approach discussed is to shut down some >> internet functions and regroup from what has [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Phildo Like the american laywers from Dreamworks who emailed a writ to some swedish site, i think it was "the pirates lair" who had shrek 2 up for download. The reply from the swedish was most rude and suggested something along the lines of inserting said writ somewhere deeply personal. Moral is, as you say .. what is illegal in one country is not going to be illegal in another and since the US doesn't have global border control as yet ... i don't think we have too much to fear from the taking over the world - sounds like something out of the animaniacs ;) >Julie, the situation here make it impossible to do the needed >functions, The individuals are not the problem. They [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >> >>Who are you talking to? Anyone thart it fits. You will remain in my prayers. May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier) than ever. Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Cardiologist convicted friend Guy (g...@consolidated.net) wrote: > >Julie, the situation here make it impossible to do the needed > >functions, The individuals are not the problem. They [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- >>Julie, the situation here make it impossible to do the needed >>functions, The individuals are not the problem. They >>will exist anywhere he system allows them to abuse. There is a common theme running through most of your rants Guy. That being that Guy is not going to take personal responsibility for anything. Your opening statement above makes that very clear. You see the truth is, it does not matter what anyone does or does not do in this newsgroup. What you choose to do is 100% on you. >>We have about a dozen local cases of underage >>inducements. "we" as in who? This newsgroup? If that is what you are saying you are flat out wrong. "We" the members of this newsgroup would not tolerate it once it were found out and "We" would report it to the proper authorities. >>We have dozen of underage pregnancies >>of very young girls. When they are asked why >>most will indicate the internet was the enticement >>that led to problems. You cannot get pregnant over the Internet. That requires 2 parties meeting face to face(excluding those who seek medical intervention). And the problem always starts at home. When I worked crises phone lines what I found was that these kids 1. were not just rebelling to be spiteful, they were suffering long before they started their behavior. and 2. in the case of most of the teen pregnancies they were not properly educated by their parents and the majority believed they could not talk to their parents about sex let alone come to them with the fear or fact of a pregnancy. And the number 1 universal constant is the double standards set for boys compared to girls. And every time you mention pregnancy you always omit the males role and responsibility. Why is that? Learn to choose better analogies. and start by taking responsibility for what you choose to post in the manner you choose to post it in. Nobody makes you post anything. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >>>Julie, the situation here make it impossible to do the needed >>>functions, The individuals are not the problem. They [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > for what you choose to post in the manner you choose to post it in. > Nobody makes you post anything. You just don't understand Guy. It's an existential thing (I just learned that word and will be using it a lot from now on). John johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... >You just don't understand Guy. It's an existential thing (I just learned >that word and will be using it a lot from now on). > >John I put that right up there with facilitator, and reciprocity. I look for reasons to use them. :-) Cheri > johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I put that right up there with facilitator, and reciprocity. I look > for reasons to use them. :-) One of my favorites is something my dad used to say. Of course the times when he could use this were few and far between, but it was, "How dare you! Have you the audacity to doubt my veracity? Or even to insinuate that I might prevaricate?" This was always met with a mouth agape and a dull look to the eyes of the person he was speaking to. > johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > I put that right up there with facilitator, and reciprocity. I look > for reasons to use them. :-) When I was in college I went through a phase when I was obsessed with the word "juxtaposition" and tried to use it at least once in every paper I wrote. Luckily I was an English Lit major and could use the term fairly easily when discussing imagery. Priscilla >> johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >paper I wrote. Luckily I was an English Lit major and could use the >term fairly easily when discussing imagery. I'm currently counting it a poor day when I can't sneak "dichotomy" in somewhere : ) Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 >>> johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Nicky. Stay on the subject. John >>>> johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >John Sorry :D Um, we have the dichotomy when reading Guy's posts of late as to whether to continue to afford him Elder Statesman status and therefore allow him extreme lattitude, or to call him on some of the more provocative posts. Better? Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 : >> johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... : >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] : >paper I wrote. Luckily I was an English Lit major and could use the : >term fairly easily when discussing imagery. : I'm currently counting it a poor day when I can't sneak "dichotomy" in : somewhere : ) : Nicky. I find "iterations" a good one too. Why not simply repetitions? Wendy >I find "iterations" a good one too. Why not simply repetitions? > >Wendy As I remember it, each iteration includes feedback, a slight change so that you are a touch closer to your goal with each iteration, where repetition is just doing exactly the same thing. For example, I eat something, I test, I change it slightly, test again, and so on until it doesn't spike me. That's iteration rather than repetition. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com >I find "iterations" a good one too. Why not simply repetitions? Ah, I use iterations all the time at work. Think of a coil, made of a spiral. Each iteration takes you further along the coil, because you try and learn from each turn.... Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 : >I find "iterations" a good one too. Why not simply repetitions? : Ah, I use iterations all the time at work. Think of a coil, made of a : spiral. Each iteration takes you further along the coil, because you : try and learn from each turn.... : Nicky. : T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid : D&E, 100ug thyroxine : Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25 Aw, you engineering types take away all the fun:-) I first encountered the work in an Economic textbook in business school and had to spend quite a while firuring it out and, in the context used, simply ment reptitions. economists are not engineers> Wendy On 9/5/07 2:58 PM, in article fbn8qp$j7t$1@reader1.panix.com, "W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote: > : >I find "iterations" a good one too. Why not simply repetitions? > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Wendy I am neither an economist nor a engineer, but a tax preparer. My meaning of the work is the same as the engineers. We fine tuned taxes on dividends by using up to 100 iterations to get it as correct as possible. It did not mean doing the same thing over and over. Martha T2 Canada : On 9/5/07 2:58 PM, in article fbn8qp$j7t$1@reader1.panix.com, "W. Baker" : <wbaker@panix.com> wrote: : > : >I find "iterations" a good one too. Why not simply repetitions? : > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] : > : > Wendy : I am neither an economist nor a engineer, but a tax preparer. My meaning of : the work is the same as the engineers. We fine tuned taxes on dividends by : using up to 100 iterations to get it as correct as possible. It did not mean : doing the same thing over and over. : Martha T2 Canada Well, I gues I learn things every day. Wendy >> johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Priscilla My favorite is indefatigable.... no matter where you stick it in a conversation, you get funny looks. Nobody knows how to pronounce it, anyway. John johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... >>> johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >John I do. :-) Cheri > johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Cheri smartass -:) John In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:58:38 -0700 in Msg.# <aPednYzmErxzfEDbnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@inreach.com>, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote: > >My favorite is indefatigable.... no matter where you stick it in a > >conversation, you get funny looks. Nobody knows how to pronounce it, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cheri So did I. I didn't know anyone didn't know how. And, I change what words I'm into from time to time. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : >> johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... : >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] : My favorite is indefatigable.... no matter where you stick it in a : conversation, you get funny looks. Nobody knows how to pronounce it, anyway. : John Wasn't that a ship in the British navy of the 18th Century, along with the Indefesible, the Indecisive and a few others? Wendy > : >> johnniemccoy@ wrote in message ... > : >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Wendy Yes. That's where the quote, "Don't fire till you see the whites of those indefatigable little bugger's eyes" came from. John > You just don't understand Guy. It's an existential thing (I just learned > that word and will be using it a lot from now on). Maybe that's my problem. My feet doth touch the ground. I can not grasp that which is over my head. Ha! >You just don't understand Guy. It's an existential thing (I just learned >that word and will be using it a lot from now on). > >John you've been watching those caveman insurance commercials. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . >>You just don't understand Guy. It's an existential thing (I just learned >>that word and will be using it a lot from now on). >> >>John > you've been watching those caveman insurance commercials. > Måck lol John Mack, I have been watching the cavemen commercials and I love them. I dont know how it will translate into a sitcom. the star of the commercials will not be in the show and I think he is the whole deal. Loretta In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:57:19 -0400 in Msg.# <19198-46DD562F-1132@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net>, sassybklynlady@webtv.net > Mack, I have been watching the cavemen commercials and I love them. I > dont know how it will translate into a sitcom. the star of the > commercials will not be in the show and I think he is the whole deal. I've seen the pilot & it is excellent. I thought it was the dumbest idea I had ever heard, to make it into a series, so, I was completely shocked that the pilot is so good. But, I have no idea if they will be able to get it up & on the boards & have it still be edgy comedy that walks this very fine line. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel "A screaming comes across the sky." - GRAVITY'S RAINBOW, Thomas Pynchon, 1st line Loretta Eisenberg wrote in message <19198-46DD562F-1132@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net>... Mack, I have been watching the cavemen commercials and I love them. I dont know how it will translate into a sitcom. the star of the commercials will not be in the show and I think he is the whole deal. Loretta I can't stand those commercials. They just grate on my nerves, but I love the turtles. The Slowskis. They always make me smile. Cheri AHHHHH...me time.... :-) KROM > Loretta Eisenberg wrote in message > <19198-46DD562F-1132@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net>... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Cheri > I can't stand those commercials. They just grate on my nerves, but I > love the turtles. The Slowskis. They always make me smile. I like the turtles too. >> I can't stand those commercials. They just grate on my nerves, but I >> love the turtles. The Slowskis. They always make me smile. > >I like the turtles too. I realize I don't watch much network TV, but I have to know -- turtles? Is there going to be a sitcom about turtles now? Would that be kind of like "24" -- but take 48 hours to shoot? SignatureBlueBrooke T2/D&E/June 2005 May 2007 A1c 5.5 Oct 2006 A1c 5.8 Jun 2005 A1c 6.8 In alt.support.diabetes on Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:40:34 -0500 in Msg.# > >> I can't stand those commercials. They just grate on my nerves, but I > >> love the turtles. The Slowskis. They always make me smile. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Would that be kind of like "24" -- but take 48 hours to shoot? No sign of any sitcom plans for them. Their commercial is based on this turtle family that doesn't want an Internet connection that goes too fast for them. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel "A cool heavenly breeze took possession of him." - THE LAST TEMPTATION OF CHRIST, Nikos Kazantzakis, 1960, 1st line >In alt.support.diabetes on Wed, 05 Sep 2007 00:40:34 -0500 in Msg.# > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >turtle family that doesn't want an Internet connection that goes too fast >for them. <hehe> Haven't seen that. That sounds cute. SignatureBlueBrooke T2/D&E/June 2005 May 2007 A1c 5.5 Oct 2006 A1c 5.8 Jun 2005 A1c 6.8 Cheri, are you insured with Geico. Maybe because they have been my insurance company for years and years I love the cleverness of the commercials. Loretta > Cheri, are you insured with Geico. Maybe because they have been my > insurance company for years and years I love the cleverness of the > commercials. I have it. They are one of the few that will insure us no matter what state we live in (MA, perhaps being the one exception) and they give a military discount. Loretta Eisenberg wrote in message <19198-46DEAA49-1255@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net>... Cheri, are you insured with Geico. Maybe because they have been my insurance company for years and years I love the cleverness of the commercials. Loretta No, I'm not insured by them. I like some of the commericals, just don't like the caveman commercials. :-) Cheri I am starting to think that there is something wrong with Guy, physically and he is not discussing his real issues . I hope he is all right Maybe it is mental. but I am worried. Loretta >I am starting to think that there is something wrong with Guy, > physically and he is not discussing his real issues . I hope he is all [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Loretta we can rule out menstrual John >>Julie, the situation here make it impossible to do the needed >>functions, The individuals are not the problem. They [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >>most will indicate the internet was the enticement >>that led to problems. Gee, I don't know who started this post but since it has my name in it, I shall reply. I don't think I saw the original post or something. I am 48 years old. When I was in Jr. High, ages 12, 13 and 14, plenty of girls had to leave school because they were pregnant. We didn't have the Internet in those days. Went to high school and the best we had were electric typewriters. We did get a computer in the office by the end of my Sr. year. Still more girls got pregnant. In those days, girls weren't allowed to stay in school if pregnant and could not be in school if the school knew they were married. I know of one girl in my typing class who was not only married but had a child. She tried to finish out Sr. year but exhaustion took over and that never happened. Somehow I don't think the Internet can be blamed for today's pregnancies. Nope. I'm sure I could tell you how it happens, but I won't. Since people of any age can post and read here. There are websites though that will explain it if you really need an explanation. >>Go to the use net and see over half of the groups >>are undesirable type. sh.t always attracts >>flies, I don't know that they are undesirable. But more than half are of no interest to me. So I don't go there. I do know plenty of people who go to binary groups that don't appeal to me. That doesn't mean I think those groups are undesirable. >>The recent election showed that many are >>fed up with some of our antisocial actions. Not sure what you mean by that. >>One approach discussed is to shut down some >>internet functions and regroup from what has >>been learned. Huh? >>sh.t heads seem to think this cannot happen. >>They also have other misconceptions. Again, huh? >>The attendance of groups opposed to an >>uncontrolled society is increasing. Um... Third huh? >>The issue of sexual anarchy is becoming more >>important. The attitude of the US is changing. Sexual anarchy? I am not sure what that is. And why are we talking sex in a diabetes newsgroup? >>The problems for the crazies is in the long term >>is they self destruct. Most are all mouth trying >>to exploit others. Not all crazy people self destruct. And I don't think it's really all that nice to refer to them as crazy. Mentally ill might be a better term. And wouldn't it be nice if they really DID all self destruct? Then nobody would have to deal with them. But that isn't the case. There are plenty of mentally ill people in this world who are on meds and/or in counseling and are functioning people. You may even see some when you go about your day to day business and not even know it. Then there are those for whom meds or counseling fails. Or they won't take their meds, or for whatever reason, things go acropper. They can be trouble makers, for themselves or for others. Is it their fault? I don't know. Should be sit in judgement? Probably not. I did take a psych course in college and my mom was a lay counselor. But I don't feel qualified to do much in that regard. >>Julie, there is no profit in being a soundboard >>for the disturbed. I need the group much less >>that a lot of people here. I didn't say that there was. And again, I think you are confused. I have NO clue what you are talking about but you seem to fit the description of those you described above. Or you are losing your memory or confusing me with someone else, or... I have no clue. Seriously no clue what you are talking about or why you are directing your comments to me. >>There are a lot of problems with the internet. >>Identify theft is a biggie and the losses to business >>will be the thing that breaks the system. Fixes >>are hacked before they can be installed. What does this have to do with anything germaine to this newgroup? My house was robbed and more recently somebody got my debit card number and attempted to purchase a laptop computer with it. Did the Internet have anything to do with either of those things? I don't know. I don't care. I took care of the problem as best I could. And I realized that I was not alone with such problems. Sitting around whining about it isn't going to solve anything. I prefer to be proactive. >>That is one of many reasons there is great concern >>by the people that can pass laws and have the clout to >> enforce them. Not sure what that pertains to either. *Moves on to next post quickly, shaking head and hoping to clear out the cobwebs* Please note the date on the post was from 2004. The SOS is still going on. Please take the time to read a post before trying to trash others. I can go back to post into the 90's. I can use this data or goggle it if necessary The point is this squabble never would have developed if you would have used self control. My point is to try to make this behavior unprofitable. Since I am leaving I have the advantage.. Relax and rethink your ire a bit. I never gave you second thought until you came on with the current sh.t. Try to think before you trash others. Temper is not an admirable trait. I saw a couple of good post by you in the archives.. What happened. Now to nitpick--I know a couple that had their daughter setup and raped via the Internet. I heard the father used an axe on the computer in his home Another subject. Too late. >>>Julie, the situation here make it impossible to do the needed >>>functions, The individuals are not the problem. They [quoted text clipped - 110 lines] >Not sure what that pertains to either. *Moves on to next post quickly, >shaking head and hoping to clear out the cobwebs* > Please note the date on the post was from 2004. The SOS is still > going on. Please take the time to read a post before > trying to trash others. I can go back to post into the 90's. I can > use this data or goggle it if necessary Why would you do that? And what do you mean by SOS? I thought that meant "Save our ship". > The point is this squabble never would have developed if > you would have used self control. Who is "you"? > My point is to try to make this behavior unprofitable. > Since I am leaving I have the advantage.. What behavior? > Relax and rethink your ire a bit. Who? The only one I see here with ire is you! Are you talking to yourself? > I never gave you second thought until you came on with the current > sh.t. Try to think before you trash others. You mentioned my name in your first post, so I must assume it is directed to me. What in the hell did I do? > Temper is not an admirable trait. Then why are you showing it? > I saw a couple of good post by you in the archives.. What happened. Again... Who? > Now to nitpick--I know a couple that had their daughter setup > and raped via the Internet. I heard the father used an axe > on the computer in his home Another subject. Too late. WTF? Now you've gone too far. If you know people who do that sort of thing, I don't think I want to know about it. I don't know if you're trying to run me off or what. But I've been here (if only lurking at times) since 1998. I am not run off that easily. I see you apparently bitching at me and Mack and you keep dragging sex into it. Can somebody please explain? This is getting upsetting but I don't even know what I'm getting upset about. Just see an explosion of words and they make no sense. Julie Bove wrote in message ... >Can somebody please explain? This is getting upsetting but I don't even >know what I'm getting upset about. Just see an explosion of words and they >make no sense. There is no explanation Julie. Just ignore it, and don't let it upset you. Cheri > Julie Bove wrote in message ... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > There is no explanation Julie. Just ignore it, and don't let it upset > you. I guess that's what I shall have to do. Thanks. I thought he was angry with me but couldn't figure out why. In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:41:18 GMT in Msg.# > I guess that's what I shall have to do. Thanks. I thought he was angry > with me but couldn't figure out why. He is blaming you for things, Julie. He thinks your posts in reply to him are a result of your losing your temper & of loss of self-control on your part. He doesn't understand your perspective at all. He's done this over & over again with many people. Right now, it's you - and now Mack. And, whoever he won't name. Whooooo. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel "If I were alive in Rubens's time, I'd be celebrated as a model. Kate Moss would be used as a paint brush." - Dawn French, British comedy actress, in Sunday Times 13 August 2006 >In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:41:18 GMT in Msg.# > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >over again with many people. Right now, it's you - and now Mack. And, >whoever he won't name. Whooooo. Toss you for it (as to who's next:-) Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Alan S wrote in message ... >>In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:41:18 GMT in Msg.# >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Toss you for it (as to who's next:-) My eyes are turning slowly toward you Alan. LOL Cheri In alt.support.diabetes on Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:24:43 -0700 in Msg.# <-eSdnf8t0O-aUkHbnZ2dnUVZ_jWdnZ2d@inreach.com>, "Cheri" <gserviceatinreachdotcom> wrote: > Alan S wrote in message ... > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > My eyes are turning slowly toward you Alan. LOL Slowly her eyes turned, step by step, ... SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel "I am not a cat man, but a dog man and all felines can tell this at a glance - a sharp, vindictive glance." - James Thurber In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:04:07 +1000 in Msg.# <eoipd3lgtlast1s50l6pk6i8c4pdnrojk0@4ax.com>, Alan S <loralgtweightandcarbs@gmail.com> wrote: > >He is blaming you for things, Julie. He thinks your posts in reply to him > >are a result of your losing your temper & of loss of self-control on your [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Toss you for it (as to who's next:-) Wait, you're not about to begin a NG betting pool, are you? SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel "I felt like my own brothers and sisters turned against me." - Billy Graham [about attacks by fundamentalists] > In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 02:41:18 GMT in Msg.# > <iB3Di.3445$Ov2.1368@trndny06>, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > over again with many people. Right now, it's you - and now Mack. And, > whoever he won't name. Whooooo. Okay. Thanks. That makes sense. Well sort of. At least I know what you are saying. In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 03:09:08 GMT in Msg.# > > He is blaming you for things, Julie. He thinks your posts in reply to him > > are a result of your losing your temper & of loss of self-control on your [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Okay. Thanks. That makes sense. Well sort of. At least I know what you > are saying. You're welcome. And, I'm glad you know what I'm saying. It never hurts to get a bit of positive feedback, huh? SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel "How beautiful it is to do nothing, and then rest afterward." - Spanish proverb >> There is no explanation Julie. Just ignore it, and don't let it upset >> you. > >I guess that's what I shall have to do. Thanks. I thought he was angry >with me but couldn't figure out why. I'm hoping it will improve. Sad if it doesn't. Guy, right now it seems like you've lost the plot; I hope that is a passing thing. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com > I'm hoping it will improve. Sad if it doesn't. Agreed. > Guy, right now it seems like you've lost the plot; I hope > that is a passing thing. Agreed. I know im a sucker for showing concern over and over for guy and basically getting a boot to the bits in response by him.. but maybe his wife will read this and get him sorted out...this post makes no sense and is out of the blue and worries me. :-( KROM >>> There is no explanation Julie. Just ignore it, and don't let it upset >>> you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > -- > http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com "showing concern" ? Just 10 minutes before, you posted him as having "a potty mouth" ... I *am* perplexed. "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> a écrit ... >I know im a sucker for showing concern over and over for guy and basically >getting a boot to the bits in response by him.. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >> -- >> http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:50:34 +0200 in Msg.# <46dd549c$0$10539$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-07.noos.net>, " Frank t2" <a@b.c> wrote: > "showing concern" ? > > Just 10 minutes before, you posted him as having "a potty mouth" ... > > I *am* perplexed. I'm astounded at your replies to krom. Does astounded trump perplexed? Does supporting someone mean nodding & going along with everything they say or do? I think not. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel "A long sultry Syrian day was drawing near its close." - BARABBAS, Marie Corelli, 1893, 1st line Right...again people like kurt make it sound if someones having issues we should all look the other way which is NOT support. Like when alan called frank out on something minor..frank would snipe at alan every post alan made...i am sure this is just frank being frank mad i called him out on the N word fiasco. <shrug> KROM > In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:50:34 +0200 in Msg.# > <46dd549c$0$10539$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-07.noos.net>, " Frank t2" [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > say > or do? I think not. >In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:50:34 +0200 in Msg.# ><46dd549c$0$10539$79c14f64@nan-newsreader-07.noos.net>, " Frank t2" <a@b.c> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >I'm astounded at your replies to krom. Does astounded trump perplexed? No. But astoundingly perplexed trumps it. >Does supporting someone mean nodding & going along with everything they say >or do? I think not. You think correctly. From time to time. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . Yeah frank it follows that because of his recent changes i would show concern. Are you really asking me or simply trying to troll me for callign you out on your use of the N word? KROM > "showing concern" ? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> >> KROM >I know im a sucker for showing concern over and over for guy and basically >getting a boot to the bits in response by him.. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > KROM Oh, I didn't know he was married. Now it makes sense. John ROFL! <Looks over shoulder at wife straightens up> I mean um hey thats not funny! <looks to see wifes not looking...give johnny a hi5> Hehe KROM >>I know im a sucker for showing concern over and over for guy and basically >>getting a boot to the bits in response by him.. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > John Julie Bove wrote in message ... >I guess that's what I shall have to do. Thanks. I thought he was angry >with me but couldn't figure out why. Don't feel alone. I have no idea either. :-) Cheri > Julie Bove wrote in message ... > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Don't feel alone. I have no idea either. :-) I've only been here a little over three months, but every one of guy's posts that I've attempted to read have left me completely baffled. I don't know if perhaps English is not his native language, or perhaps he has some kind of disability (I'm not judging, I'm disabled myself) but not only are they difficult to understand with all the typos, they all seem to have one common thread: hatred and anger. I only read his posts now if I'm really bored, and mostly just to try to see if I can understand what makes him so angry all the time. On 9/3/07 6:56 PM, in article fX2Di.3444$Ov2.2662@trndny06, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> wrote: >> Please note the date on the post was from 2004. The SOS is still >> going on. Please take the time to read a post before [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > know what I'm getting upset about. Just see an explosion of words and they > make no sense. Julie, like you, I have been around for about 10 years. I remember at the beginning I used to look forward to his posts. They were clear, cogent, and educational. I suspect Guy is suffering from dementia and there is not much any of us can do to help. It is sad since he used to have so much to offer. Martha T2 Canada > Julie, like you, I have been around for about 10 years. I remember at the > beginning I used to look forward to his posts. They were clear, cogent, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > any of us can do to help. It is sad since he used to have so much to > offer. Yes. I'm afraid that is the case. alt."support".diabetes ?????? Kurt >alt."support".diabetes ?????? > >Kurt Attempting to understand why a person appears to have changed in character, rather than simply belittling or abusing them, certainly seems like support to me. Ignoring such changes and pretending they aren't happening is hardly support. I'm no psychologist - but you are the first to tell us that we should be seeing professional medical advisors for our diabetes. Well, give us your opinion on these posts by Guy - who should he be communicating with, us or a professional? I would suggest a professional. So, what is your supporting suggestion in the circumstances? If you believe everything Guy has posted is meritorious, then say so and let us know why and in what way. Maybe you can turn it into comprehensible communications for the rest of us and we will realise that we have misunderstood. For example, you could clarify: "Please note the date on the post was from 2004. The SOS is still going on." "My point is to try to make this behavior unprofitable. Since I am leaving I have the advantage.." "Now to nitpick--I know a couple that had their daughter setup and raped via the Internet. I heard the father used an axe on the computer in his home Another subject. Too late." Any one of those three would be a start - but relevance of the last really escapes me. What on earth does sexual exploitation of minors via the internet have to do with anything discussed here? Or do you just prefer to carp snidely from the sidelines? Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com I totally agree, Alan, because I have experienced cognitive changes myself, and in some others around me. At first there were short remarks, but I believe all have become more serious in their concern. It just does not sound like the same person, nor has it for some time now. I've not said anything previously because as one who has had times where I could not carry on a decent conversation, how could I say anything about someone else. However, maybe I might be better than most to recognize like behavior. Saying "it is" early dementia or something of some sort is not proper, but suggesting he needs a professional check-up is certainly not out of line. Medication could even be causing it. Some of my long time meds are having different effects on me nowadays, and dosages have needed to be changed. Just a few thoughts about a long time friend..... I too, am not a newbie around here. Billie : >alt."support".diabetes ?????? : > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] : -- : http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Yes support! You make it seem like just because he is a longtime poster we should turn away from what appears to be failing stability and reason. You offer ZERO support in ignoring this...maybe seeing this he or his wife or a loved one will get him some help rather then us passivly watching the downward spiral. You might as well let a person hit by a car lie there because you saw him running to catch a bus once and those trying to help are meddling... Also support means supporting everyone and by allowing these random vulgarious and odd rants against the other posters here is also just plain wrong and so YOU have failed to support both him and those he is abusing for no reason. KROM > alt."support".diabetes ?????? > > Kurt Krom, I *do* so wish I could understand your posts ... I am not alone in this ... F "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> a écrit ... > Yes support! > You make it seem like just because he is a longtime poster we should turn [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> Kurt > Julie, like you, I have been around for about 10 years. I remember at the > beginning I used to look forward to his posts. They were clear, cogent, and > educational. I suspect Guy is suffering from dementia and there is not much > any of us can do to help. It is sad since he used to have so much to offer. Guy's senility has been showing for the past few years. I generally just remind myself of that when he posts something egregious, delete, and move on. It's when people treat his posts as if they might make sense that trouble starts to brew. Priscilla In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:56:27 GMT in Msg.# > Why would you do that? And what do you mean by SOS? I thought that meant > "Save our ship". An SOS is a distress call, etc. So, apparently Guy has been feeling the need for this same distress call since sometime in 2004, roughly 3 years. I can only guess he means it to be a reflection on us, but, in reality, it is a reflection on him, that he has felt this same way for 3 years about this NG and done nothing about it, that is within his power to do. IOW, in this case SOS means Stuck, Only Stuck. SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel "A merry little surge of electricity piped by automated alarm from the mood organ beside his bed awakened Rick Deckard." - DO ANDROIDS DREAM OF ELECTRIC SHEEP, Philip K. Dick, 1968 (the basis for Bladerunner), 1st line > In alt.support.diabetes on Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:56:27 GMT in Msg.# > <fX2Di.3444$Ov2.2662@trndny06>, "Julie Bove" <juliebove@verizon.net> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > case > SOS means Stuck, Only Stuck. In my neighborhood, SOS means "same ole sh.t." John > In my neighborhood, SOS means "same ole sh.t." > > John I think that's what he meant. John >> In my neighborhood, SOS means "same ole sh.t." >> >> John > I think that's what he meant. Oh. Well here we use SOSDD. With my husband in the military when I see SOS, I assume Morse code. >>> In my neighborhood, SOS means "same ole sh.t." >>> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Oh. Well here we use SOSDD. With my husband in the military when I see > SOS, I assume Morse code. ...---... or was it ---...--- I used to do about 15 wpm. Now I've got em all turned around. John KC4YXO Julie, no one is going to run you offl You are a very important and vital part of this group. i am serous, there is something wrong with Guy Loretta > Julie, no one is going to run you offl You are a very important and > vital part of this group. i am serous, there is something wrong with That was posted a couple of days ago Loretta. > Now to nitpick--I know a couple that had their daughter setup > and raped via the Internet. I heard the father used an axe > on the computer in his home Another subject. Too late. That seems rather silly. As a mother myself, I'd have rather used the axe on the rapist. Signaturehttp://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/ >> Now to nitpick--I know a couple that had their daughter setup >> and raped via the Internet. I heard the father used an axe >> on the computer in his home Another subject. Too late. > >That seems rather silly. As a mother myself, I'd have rather used the >axe on the rapist. Sounds like an excellent idea; I can even suggest which body appendage (or appendages) to apply it to. While not disputing Guy's version, the ambiguity is a bit odd. I've heard of cyber-sex, but rape via the net seems to be going well beyond virtual reality. I didn't realise software had come that far. Certainly provides a new concept for firmware. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com >>> Now to nitpick--I know a couple that had their daughter setup >>> and raped via the Internet. I heard the father used an axe [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >software had come that far. Certainly provides a new concept >for firmware. The whole business sounds like some grand delusion. Will, T2 You have a potty mouth GUY ..i would think you could speak to a lady without the vulgaritties sir.. Shame! KROM > Please note the date on the post was from 2004. The SOS is still > going on. Please take the time to read a post before [quoted text clipped - 155 lines] > ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption > =---- Krom, Just so that I can learn from it ... What exactly did he write that was wrong, for you ? You could just underline the words that you disapprove of. Thanks, F "krom" <thekromremoveremove@hotmail.com> a écrit ... > You have a potty mouth GUY ..i would think you could speak to a lady > without the vulgaritties sir.. [quoted text clipped - 167 lines] >> ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption >> =---- I am not going to repeat 'em so u can giggle like a naughty little monkey...lol Seriously tho he is cussin' alot more then i ever seen him do...big changes in people usually mean trouble... KROM > Krom, > Just so that I can learn from it ... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks, F This thread just appeared out of nowhere to my newsreader..lol <shakes head> Also confizzled and dissfused...lol KROM >>>Julie, the situation here make it impossible to do the needed >>>functions, The individuals are not the problem. They [quoted text clipped - 110 lines] > Not sure what that pertains to either. *Moves on to next post quickly, > shaking head and hoping to clear out the cobwebs* >>>> Guy will skip your post in the future, A waste of time. speaking of yourself in the third person is an unhealthy sign. > Guy will skip your post in the future, A waste of time. That's it, be a coward and ignore the truth. You know full well you lied, you can't face admitting it to the group and so you stick your head in the sand and hope it will go away. I will always be here to remind you of your wrongs Guy whether you read them or not. Phildo |
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