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Placebos and stress

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Nan Eklund - 29 Jan 2004 20:46 GMT
The mind is an awesome thing.
Paul Harvey, noon on Thursday Jan 29, said the Mayo Clinic has released a study
showing that placebos actually do some good, but a discouraging doctor can
cancel the effect.  
Stress can raise blood sugar.    I was facing a cataract removal on Wednesday
and worked late at the office Tuesday night to clear up stuff for a couple of
days away.  Coming home about 8, surface streets, medium rain falling, and car
engine quit (all electrical components). Stopped completely near an
intersection.  I was in the right lane and pushed my car as much as I could
back and against the curb.  
No lights.  Had a bright yellow sheet of plastic in the trunk and hung it from
the open trunk.  Went across the street to call AAA and coming back - saw an
old slow HEAVY car slide into my beloved little Saturn.  Crunch.......
Took a couple of hours, tow truck, cops, etc, to part the two.
When I got home, sugar was 268 which is quite high for me (90 to 150 is
normal).
So - chicken soup.  No food after midnight.  Morning 91 at 6 a.m., 145 at 8,
118 at 11 just before leaving for Doctor.  Nurse checked a few minutes before
the procedure and it was 109.  Afterwards, at 3, they gave me a cup of coffee
with
2 sugars and when I got home it was 143.........
So, there's a pattern of stress reactions and also reaction to sugar.
Interesting.
Nan, Type 2 with a new lens that's still blurry.
Colleen - 29 Jan 2004 21:04 GMT
What an awful evening!  When it rains...well, you know.
c

> The mind is an awesome thing.
> Paul Harvey, noon on Thursday Jan 29, said the Mayo Clinic has released a study
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Interesting.
> Nan, Type 2 with a new lens that's still blurry.
Guy - 29 Jan 2004 21:20 GMT
Stress is the enemy of a diabetic.  I do much better if I stay loose.
I can't understand why people come here and try to show off.
It is called a support group.  

We face so much by the averages.  We also face the deliberate
acts of some.  I thought I must be the only one to take so many
hits.  Try to remember that it will work out and won't matter a
few years from now   Relax is my key word.
                                                         Guy.  

>The mind is an awesome thing.
>Paul Harvey, noon on Thursday Jan 29, said the Mayo Clinic has released a study
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Interesting.
>Nan, Type 2 with a new lens that's still blurry.
Sleepyman - 30 Jan 2004 07:00 GMT
>>The mind is an awesome thing.
>>Paul Harvey, noon on Thursday Jan 29, said the Mayo Clinic has released a study
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>Interesting.
>>Nan, Type 2 with a new lens that's still blurry.

Sounds to me like you got a message from God, telling you to give up your
evil ways, and vote Democratic...........

Sleepy

P.S. Knowing you will never give up your evil ways, I hope your eye clears
up, and that the insurance company gives you enough money for a new car. I
have never had a car come back after major surgery, the same as it went in.

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Colleen - 30 Jan 2004 12:49 GMT
<snip>
coffee
> >>with
> >>2 sugars and when I got home it was 143.........
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> -----------------

Hey Sleepy, now I have to clean my monitor.

c

> Eskimo/Inuit up!
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> T2- 3/14/01
Guy - 30 Jan 2004 15:01 GMT
>>>The mind is an awesome thing.
>>>Paul Harvey, noon on Thursday Jan 29, said the Mayo Clinic has released a study
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>>>Interesting.
>>>Nan, Type 2 with a new lens that's still blurry.

Just remembered---good news and bad news.
You were not in the car.
Good News --You were not hurt.

Bad news--Since  there is only PD
(property damage) and no PI (personal
injury) The adjusters will be tough on
you.  A saying in the insurance industry
is PD's are fixed and PI's get worse in
time.   I once received about 40% of a loss.
Take it or sue.   Good Luck.
More stress?
                                Guy
Nan Eklund - 30 Jan 2004 22:40 GMT
To Guy.  The guy who hit me was insured by the same company.  And they've
absolved me of blame (which I was rather worried about!) so they've waived the
deductible.  Car, however, is listed as totaled.  1993 car, 100,000 miles = not
a lot of value left.  
I did a home equity a couple of years ago and can get a new one as long as it's
cheap!  Got enough life insurance to cover the loan so my kids can sell my
house free and clear.........so the budget's tight, so!
Guy - it's a beautiful day today.  Sunny and warm.  That's all that's
important.
Nan, Type 2
Nan Eklund - 30 Jan 2004 22:33 GMT
>Sounds to me like you got a message from God, telling you to give up your
>evil ways, and vote Democratic...........

But actually God was telling me to get out of the car before being hit, thus
saving a good Republican.
So there......
Nan, Type 2
URAQT2 - 30 Jan 2004 23:27 GMT
> >Sounds to me like you got a message from God, telling you to give up your
> >evil ways, and vote Democratic...........
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> So there......
> Nan, Type 2

"good Republican"?
Didn't know there had been one since Richard M. Nixon.
Ah well, I'm glad to hear there is at least one left. It's also good to know
that you can call yourself a Republican while not supporting the most evil
despot that is in the White House right now.

(Nan, the devil made me do it, and I don't even believe in the devil)

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Sleepyman - 31 Jan 2004 01:37 GMT
>>Sounds to me like you got a message from God, telling you to give up your
>>evil ways, and vote Democratic...........
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>So there......
>Nan, Type 2

It was a warning from God, telling you that next time there will be no
warning, unless you do the right thing, and become a Democrat.......
Consider it a burning bush on the road to Damascus.
So there.......

Sleepy

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Nan Eklund - 31 Jan 2004 19:23 GMT
Sleepy - I'd rather be able to reply to all the internet and PO requests for
money (which I get from the Republicans) by telling them I'm going to sit on my
hands on election day unless they: stop spending, close the borders, round up
the illegals, and - in California - stop considering drivers licenses for the
LAW BREAKERS.  
Got to work on your own mess before joining anyone else's.
Nan, following the direction of the warning.
Guy - 29 Jan 2004 21:26 GMT
Nan, on my last trip for the laser, I was informed that
I have a cataract developing in my right eye..  Please
let me know how thing go. I am inclined to just let
it go.  Been through too much.
                                       Guy

>The mind is an awesome thing.
>Paul Harvey, noon on Thursday Jan 29, said the Mayo Clinic has released a study
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Interesting.
>Nan, Type 2 with a new lens that's still blurry.
Jmmbear - 29 Jan 2004 23:43 GMT
>Nan, on my last trip for the laser, I was informed that
>I have a cataract developing in my right eye..  Please
>let me know how thing go. I am inclined to just let
>it go.  Been through too much.
>                                        Guy

Guy do you take antioxidents? It slowed down the growth of my mother's one
cateract for 5 years (which she has had removed )and she still hasnt had the
surgery on the second one, 8 years later..
As always YMMV and this is JMO
Jeanne Type 2  Diagnosed 05/28/02
189/154/120
Nan Eklund - 30 Jan 2004 22:47 GMT
Cataracts.
If my eyes weren't so darn light sensative, it would have been a piece of cake.

The only hard part was staring up at a horribly bright light.  I couldn't eat
in the morning but it wasn't a problem and they checked the sugar just before.

The post-op check was good.  No sign of
infection.  The drops in the eye are a little irritating but it's being
one-eyed for several hours that gave me a headache.  One Alleve fixed that.  
I'll have to let you know how great it is - later.  Right now, I;m still fuzzy.
Lots of clients, however, many older than me (which is fast approaching George
Burns
!)  swear by their results.
Nan, Type 2
Alan - 29 Jan 2004 21:51 GMT
>The mind is an awesome thing.
>Paul Harvey, noon on Thursday Jan 29, said the Mayo Clinic has released a study
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Interesting.
>Nan, Type 2 with a new lens that's still blurry.

Hi Nan

I hope you can read the replies through your blurry lens. Hit the font
increase for a couple of days :-)
The most important question - was the op successful?

There's always a bright side in  the gloom. Ponder on the thought of
what may have happened if you had had a cellular phone and had been
making your call to AAA from the warmth of your car.

On that consideration, you had a very fortunate night.

Now I don't know whether I should commiserate or congratulate.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz
dx May 2002 , A1C 5.8, no meds, diet and not enough exercise.

--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
Jmmbear - 29 Jan 2004 23:43 GMT
>days away.  Coming home about 8, surface streets, medium rain falling, and
>car
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>old slow HEAVY car slide into my beloved little Saturn.  Crunch.......
>Took a couple of hours, tow truck, cops, etc, to part the two.

Sorry to hear about the loss of your car.. Hopefully the insurance company will
come thru alright.. ((((())))
As always YMMV and this is JMO
Jeanne Type 2  Diagnosed 05/28/02
189/154/120
Micki Webber - 30 Jan 2004 00:07 GMT
Nan....boy can't stress do a number on us?!. I get pissed, when I can't
even have a good cry, or scream to relieve some of the everyday tension
with all these multi problems.  I hope that your eye surgery is a
success; I've had both of mine done, and had great results.  I know now
that they have newer and faster ways to do this.. Good healing vibs and
prayers coming your way.  Sorry about the car...sure was lucky you were
NOT in it!!  Mic

Always, be, and stay AWARE!
Pete - 30 Jan 2004 10:05 GMT
>The mind is an awesome thing.
>Paul Harvey, noon on Thursday Jan 29, said the Mayo Clinic has released a study
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Interesting.
>Nan, Type 2 with a new lens that's still blurry.

Nan you obviously do not read my posts - I have a problem
with stress and have had since diagnosis. Think of the
'fight or flight' response which is normal in everyone.
Psychological input can cause the response to kick in. In my
case its driving too fast and having too many women around
the house!!!

Pete

Diagnosed 20/03/03 Type II D&E + Metformin + Gliclazide
+ Asprin 210lbs at Dx to BMI 166lbs achieved.
To mail: aspen at freeuk.com
Annette - 30 Jan 2004 14:08 GMT
> Nan you obviously do not read my posts - I have a problem
> with stress and have had since diagnosis. Think of the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Pete

Hey Pete,

You could try applying this tag line I came accross;

"Fast wine, loose cars, old women."

Annette
Do not mold, findle or sputilate.
Pete - 31 Jan 2004 13:37 GMT
>> Nan you obviously do not read my posts - I have a problem
>> with stress and have had since diagnosis. Think of the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> the house!!!
>> Pete

>Hey Pete,
> You could try applying this tag line I came accross;

>"Fast wine, loose cars, old women."

>Annette
>Do not mold, findle or sputilate.

Or: Fast women, Old wine and loose cars <VBG>

Pete

Diagnosed 20/03/03 Type II D&E + Metformin + Gliclazide
+ Asprin 210lbs at Dx to BMI 166lbs achieved.
To mail: aspen at freeuk.com
Alan - 31 Jan 2004 14:09 GMT
>> Nan you obviously do not read my posts - I have a problem
>> with stress and have had since diagnosis. Think of the
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>Annette
>Do not mold, findle or sputilate.

Hi Annette

Many years ago I read a short SF story about an innocent man who was
executed for failing to return a library book. I presume you have read
it because the title was something like "Do not fold, mutilate or
spindle".
Do you remember the author and correct title?
I tried to remember the sequence of events when telling my son the
story, but kept missing bits.

Cheers Alan, T2, Oz
dx May 2002 , A1C 5.8, no meds, diet and not enough exercise.

--
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
Loretta Eisenberg - 30 Jan 2004 14:43 GMT
Nan, what a day you had,  I am not advertising this product for sale,
but I purchased something n qvc called the Coleman Powermate.  It is a
battery charger that you use with the cigarette lighter in the car,  You
plug it in and in from a minute to thirty minutes the car starts.

My friend was visiting my house, when she left she couldnt start her car
no matter how often she tried.  I had never used the powermate as I keep
it for emergencies in the glove compartment.  I put it in her cigarette
lighter and in about fifteen seconds her car started.

I think this s a wonderful product that can give peace of mind in case
things happened like it did to Nan.

Nan,'s stories certainly pointed out what stress can do to bgs.

Loretta

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