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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / September 2009Daily Spirit-guided WDJW health tip for 09/18/09
It is when we are doing things perfectly that we become healthier (hungrier) than ever. "The lot is cast into the lap, but its every decision is from the LORD." (Proverbs 16:33) Amen. A Spirit-guided exegesis of Proverbs 16:33 ... http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/085dcffcafb7e4e2? Nothing happens by chance because everything happens only as GOD allows it (Ecclesiastes 9:11): http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/21527d1832960109? Sign that GOD can easily unleash an H5N1 Pandemic, for which there is no vaccine, at any time: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a4581567229974c0? What we are teaching to prepare folks in our local communities for the probable eventuality of a Pan-Flu virus deadlier than the current H1N1 Pandemic virus (i.e. one for which there is no vaccine): http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/Pan-Flu How to not be fearful: Trust the truth, Who is Jesus !!! http://T3WiJ.com May dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2009th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689? Hunger is wonderful ! ! ! It's how we know the answer to the question "What does Jesus want?" (WDJW): http://WDJW.net Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/52a3db8576495806? Hunger is the physical "hearts burning within us" feeling that unlocks the 4 mysteries of the "Road to Emmaus" adventure described in Luke 24: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/386f56c2f6d0b154? Moreover, being hungrier is the key to being Jesus' disciples: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/bd20d7c4fe878897? Being physically hungrier is how we will physically recognize Jesus when He physically returns for us to meet Him physically in the air: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ffa6609710ea9587? "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360? Jesus is LORD, forever !!! http://JiL4ever.net Be hungrier, which is truly healthier for mind, body, and soul: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/991d4e30704307e7? Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Cardiologist and Author of "Be Hungry" http://NetCabal.com "Don't be left behind as were Cleopas and Simon ... ... -----------------> be hungry ! ! !" http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb? Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de? >It is when we are doing things perfectly that we become healthier >(hungrier) than ever. DO STOP YOUR LIES!  SignaturePOLICE - POLIZEI - POLITIE - POLICIA http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amapolis.htm >>It is when we are doing things perfectly that we become healthier >>(hungrier) than ever. > > DO STOP YOUR LIES! Does Chung ever post anything sensible? On Sep 18, 9:32 pm, "Dr. Omgorna Hackenslash MD" <MadDoc...@Hackenslash.net> wrote: > >>It is when we are doing things perfectly that we become healthier > >>(hungrier) than ever. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Does Chung ever post anything sensible? In the past, he seemed more sensible at times. Perhaps he was higher up on the slope so to speak. the slope is greased................Trig On Sep 19, 12:58�am, "trigonometry1...@gmail.com |" <trigonometry1...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sep 18, 9:32�pm, "Dr. Omgorna Hackenslash MD" > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Yappy has OCD with the word *crap*. >Yappy has OCD with the word *crap*. Says the obsessive and notorious liar Jan Drew. ;O) SignatureCharles Berliner: Geschichte der Annaëlle http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_anna.htm Yappy has OCD with the word *crap*. Please join my Prayer Vigil and Fast to excorcise the mocking demon located in Randy ® Young's pitiful self. The prayer Vigil & Fast will be held daily on my Gobly site between 6:66am and 6:66 pm until the mocking demon is excorcised. http://faithguard-moi.blogspot.com/2009/09/prayer-vigil-fast-for-mocker-randy.html SignatureBullspitfire - where every post is archived. http://faithguard-moi.blogspot.com/ >Please join my Prayer Vigil Oh, well, you better join all the many people who found this web-site most interesting: http://www.pharmamafia.com It is about all the evil in medicine. By the way: Did you know that doctors want children to become ill? Yes, that is right! They want that. And here http://www.pharmamafia.com you can read the backgrounds. Signature"Hurenweiberenkelkinder * Gott verstößt die Kindeskinder hasst der Herrgott auch nicht minder. * von Huren(5.Buch Mose,Kap.23) Dies gilt auch für Ammoniter * und die miesen Moabiter." * http://www.reimbibel.de >Yappy has OCD with the word *crap*. Some people have the habit of hitting their head against the wall. Others, like Janet Mae Stidd, dump their crap into the usenet. Day for day. To warn the netizens of such creatures, FAQs are made. Like this one: FAQ about JAN DREW, the Net stalker and agent for the naturopathic mafia ======================================================================== Part V ====== 1. The 3rd Jan Drew shows up. Who is he? 2. The history of Jan Drew 3. Where is Jan Drew? 4. Bloomington, Indiana - what a town...? 5. Jan Drew in Bloomington, Indiana 6. The second marriage of Janet Mae Stidd 1. The 3rd Jan Drew shows up. Who is he? ======================================== Yesterday, on July 15th., 2009, Jan Drew used this email address: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> today, a Jan Drew shows up and makes the very same mess as the Jan Drew before. The question is: Is this new Jan Drew the very same as the old one? Have a look at this header of a posting by the old Jan Drew: <quote> Reply-To: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> From: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> ******************************************* Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,alt.support.breast-implant,sci.med.dentistry References: <2Tv5m.13822$Dx2.10481@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com> <4a56c915$1@news.x-privat.org> <5887315b-4039-4968-96b4-690ef356cdf7@k20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> <1n5f55h7u4c42bi46dd3edip1jill4llqg@4ax.com> <c5f6d3c6-9b06-41d2-a108-fd1f1db1c3c7@m18g2000vbi.googlegroups.com> <4a57f60d@news.x-privat.org> <e0ee83b9-fd44-4b4e-aa43-144adc5c81d6@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <4a5949b8@news.x-privat.org> <c3fb2c8b-309c-476f-85e1-105728115430@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> <%tR6m.13435$j84.75@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> <598f2214-9713-4260-b3e6-2970dcad8ef3@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <598f2214-9713-4260-b3e6-2970dcad8ef3@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Turning every which way Lines: 90 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Message-ID: <NCc7m.16203$j84.2428@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.239.89.125 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1247630893 ST000 70.239.89.125 (Wed, 15 Jul 2009 ************************************************************ 00:08:13 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:08:13 EDT Organization: at&t http://my.att.net/ X-UserInfo1: SCSYQNON_BWWSTT[_X_JJ\UDFZ\@@FXLM@TDOCQDJ@_@FNHBK^RAQFW[ML\THRCKV^GGZKJMGV^^_JSCFFUA_QXFGVSCYRPILH]TRVKC^LSN@DX_HCAFX__@J\DAJBVMY\ZWZCZLPA^MVH_P@\\EOMW\YSXHG__IJQY_@M[A[[AXQ_XDSTAR]\PG]NVAQUVM Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:08:06 -0400 misc.health.alternative:625434 misc.kids.health:185126 alt.support.breast-implant:159698 sci.med.dentistry:311488 [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] wrote in message news:598f2214-9713-4260-b3e6-2970dcad8ef3@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com... > [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] wrote in message </quote> The old Jan Drew posts from the IP X-Trace: nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1247630893 ST000 70.239.89.125 (Wed, 15 Jul 2009 The new Jan Drew with the email address Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> posts from this IP: Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.239.93.194; See this piece of proof: <quote> From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> ************************************* Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Subject: Re: TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 77 Message-ID: <b2ae85b9-c00d-4ade-8e32-4baa930a2bff@r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> References: <1934e371-d192-4b1e-88be-e8db77045bb3@q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.239.93.194 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247775941 27518 127.0.0.1 (16 Jul 2009 20:25:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.239.93.194; ************************************************************************* posting-account=OFeWnQoAAABbB1i9TveLsH6hCiYooPyP User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090624 Firefox/3.5 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Oh, dear [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] is shouting again. You should be careful. Remember you will be 64 in November of this year. Regardless of all your antics to prove otherwise. The fact is you posted your birthday. On Jul 15, 11:27 pm, [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] wrote: > For years Jan has felt it is her right to report anyone she wishes to > their ISP or email provider. [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > I suggest you read your terms of service > At Gmail.com,Optimum.net, cv.net, and google.com You are not fooling me, [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years]. I happen to know you reported me several days ago. And, what does Torah say about turnabout is fair play? </quote> So we have: From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT) but about an hour later, with the same email address another IP shows up: From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT) See this piece of proof: <quote> From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> ********************************************** Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit,sci.med,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health Subject: Re: ADHD Drugs Proven Absolutely Useless for Children - Plus, They Stunt Growth Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT) ********************************************** Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 418 Message-ID: <356ea98d-dfc2-471b-84c5-57daa71288cf@r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> References: <97f92520-cdcc-4952-bc3f-a8b4e6b3c1e4@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <a6427afd-254c-44e3-9bd9-4d96bce8881a@o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <a9086444-5e6e-4267-89be-6ee0f5cf2cb8@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.112.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247780472 9697 127.0.0.1 (16 Jul 2009 21:41:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.12.112.11; *********************************************************************** posting-account=OFeWnQoAAABbB1i9TveLsH6hCiYooPyP User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; AOL 9.0; Windows NT 6.0; Trident/4.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 (Velocity/3.1.1.5 [uScMs f p eN:t cCMp s ]), HTTP/1.0 spider-mtc-ta11.proxy.aol.com[400C700B] (Prism/1.2.1) On Jul 12, 7:01 pm, [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] wrote: > On Jul 12, 1:48 am, bosco62a <bosco...@yahoo.com> wrote: </quote> This is the IP: Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.12.112.11; So we see that Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> also uses this IP from AOL: <quote> IP Information for 64.12.112.11 IP Location: United States Reston America Online Inc Resolve Host: spider-mtc-ta11.proxy.aol.com IP Address: 64.12.112.11 Blacklist Status: Clear Whois Record OrgName: America Online, Inc. OrgID: AMERIC-158 Address: 10600 Infantry Ridge Road City: Manassas StateProv: VA PostalCode: 20109 Country: US </quote> AOL is the very same provider which Jan Drew #1 used. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2. The history of Jan Drew ========================== This new Jan Drew is #3 as Jan Drew #1 was the one with the AOL account. #1. jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929) #2. "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> #3. Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> I looked at the profiles of Jan Drew #1 and Jan Drew #2: http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=mjG-gxIAAAAcoQ2KLl1VxZeaTlHITt8e 8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg That is for Jan Drew's old account at AOL. jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929) <quote> Posting-Aktivität Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez. 1999 - - 191 99 54 223 289 260 203 359 297 192 2000 109 276 414 249 461 628 384 284 191 60 416 626 2001 534 152 572 297 677 430 715 621 281 278 392 599 2002 788 481 343 390 508 718 666 643 655 874 561 954 2003 621 866 932 646 629 746 539 593 595 500 521 569 2004 459 692 958 716 749 524 694 1045 784 1007 1151 977 2005 480 1143 206 - - - - 5 - - - 2 2006 3 7 10 157 6 13 21 3 21 43 5 24 2007 74 37 - 5 - 5 2 - 1 - - - 2008 9 - - - 21 - - - - - - - </quote> This is for "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=5J_FIxcAAADGQdj7vwDkkkzclBLHYN6w hUEdIBtH1-9oWMCTqaiMrA <quote> Posting-Aktivität Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez. - .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... 2006 - 157 2293 1921 1837 2092 2273 1865 1797 2453 1600 1042 2007 475 357 406 523 561 490 370 287 326 435 798 552 2008 942 1346 892 1006 579 1076 742 877 451 555 383 424 2009 909 691 585 345 861 835 423 </quote> As you can see: The old account at AOL still is used, but less often. Here you can see the activities of Jan Drew #3: http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=pps3lhMAAABsyTkDyyCDPfvL_gVgZJy1 WMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3. Where is Jan Drew? ===================== In an old posting I found the word "Bloomington", which made me curious. So I tried to find more about it. This I now found with the word "bloomington": http://www.theangelconnection.net/school9.html <quote> 2433) Bill Drew, Bloomington, Indiana 2434) Jan Drew, Bloomington, Indiana </quote> I also found this: <quote> LookupAnyone.com - People Directory - Jan Drew Drew, Jan L, 63, Cheyenne, WY. Drew, Jana Brittain, 45, Wilmington, NC. Drew, Janelle L, 36, Sublette, IL. Drew, Janet B, 70, Bloomington, IN ... *************************************** www.lookupanyone.com/namelistings/jan-drew.html LookupAnyone.com - People Directory - Jan Harper Harper, Jan L, 84, Loveland, CO. Harper, Jan Drew, 53, Fairview, NC ... Harper, Jan E, 54, Cincinnati, OH. Harper, Jan, Bloomington, IN ... www.lookupanyone.com/namelistings/jan-harper.html </quote> Well, Bloomington turns out to be a town in Indiana. The WHOIS for the IP of Jan Drew #2 (which actually is Jan Drew #3) gives for (see above!) nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1247630893 ST000 70.239.89.125 (Wed, 15 Jul 2009 this result: <quote> IP Information for 70.239.89.125 IP Location: United States Bloomington AT&T Internet Services ************************************************************** Resolve Host: adsl-70-239-89-125.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net ********************************************************* IP Address: 70.239.89.125 Blacklist Status: Clear Whois Record OrgName: AT&T Internet Services OrgID: SIS-80 Address: 2701 N. Central Expwy # 2205.15 City: Richardson StateProv: TX PostalCode: 75080 Country: US NetRange: 70.224.0.0 - 70.239.255.255 CIDR: 70.224.0.0/12 NetName: SBCIS-SIS80 NetHandle: NET-70-224-0-0-1 Parent: NET-70-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.AMERITECH.NET NameServer: NS2.AMERITECH.NET Comment: RegDate: 2005-03-22 Updated: 2007-05-25 OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE6-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Abuse - Southwestern Bell Internet OrgAbusePhone: +1-800-648-1626 </quote> Bloomington, Indiana. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4. Bloomington, Indiana - what a town...? ========================================= Searching with Jan Drew Blomington one hit is this: <quote> Recently Visited Groups | Help | Sign in misc.health.alternative Message from discussion Debbee/Deborah Annie Adams either Put up or Shut up!--Jan Drew wins the SEA EWE EN TEA Award View parsed - Show only message text Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!out02a.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in04.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!flpi088.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!flpi107.ffdc.sbc.com!nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com.POSTED!6c044f75!not-for-mail From: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> ****************************************** Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.support.breast-implant References: <5fb276c9-4492-466d-8f55-fbc7afb4a5fb@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <8lZ7k.14208$Ri.12268@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com> <2095c8bf-ab0d-4931-98bc-5d70c7ed9203@d19g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <qJF8k.11426$uE5.9260@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com> <3eba8128-72f8-4d08-95a1-5d326dfa457d@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <4jY8k.29005$ZE5.25632@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> <ffa52845-c6e5-43e6-bb39-ad264c286823@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <g439sm$cjk$1@aioe.org> <8f930eab-5c8f-4d7c-8457-23bae7ebd5ad@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <g43q87$bj6$1@aioe.org> <d055491b-85d5-42b1-997f-4248f15e388f@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <GeE9k.13323$mh5.8143@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com> <5a2f4537-a888-4df8-856e-be00515bafc9@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <IOV9k.209$cn7.116@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com> <da69f703-8181-48ac-a5c1-5b9f9f674eef@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <VFUak.460$cn7.243@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com> <e6169a9d-670c-4443-8646-eab425aa66b0@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <e6169a9d-670c-4443-8646-eab425aa66b0@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Debbee/Deborah Annie Adams either Put up or Shut up!--Jan Drew wins the SEA EWE EN TEA Award Lines: 463 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18000 Message-ID: <B2hbk.21272$co7.17353@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.239.91.212 ******************************** X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com 1215143201 ST000 70.239.91.212 (Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:46:41 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:46:41 EDT Organization: at&t http://my.att.net/ X-UserInfo1: SCSYQN_@OPT[B_\YYJ_BZ]EJUSXB@DTMNHWB_EYLJZ]BGIELNVUEAE[YETZPIWWI[FCIZA^NBFXZ_D[BFNTCNVPDTNTKHWXKB@X^B_OCJLPZ@ET_O[G\XSG@E\G[ZKVLBL^CJINM@I_KVIOR\T_M_AW_M[_BWU_HFA_]@A_A^SGFAUDE_DFTMQPFWVW[QPJN Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:46:08 -0400 You, Deborah Annie Adams first wrote: Jan: Since it would appear that you always have to be "right," it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories about me that are not truthful in nature. I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address. I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the group) and make it very perfectly clear that you have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do, are laughing at you. Would you rather be, "right," in your own mind, or look foolish amongst those that are "in the know." I'm no longer reading this newsgroup, and came back when yet again, you would appear to be a few sandwiches short of a full picnic, and I will not longer tolerate the garbage that is spewing from your toxic mouth. Leave my name out of your discussions. Lose my name from your vocabulary. Got it? I hope so. And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because it is part of my name. Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer reading. "BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message news:5fb276c9-4492-466d-8f55-fbc7afb4a5fb@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > Jan: Yes, Debbee? OrgName: Netscape Communications Corp. OrgID: NSCP Address: 501 E. Middlefield City: Mountain View StateProv: CA PostalCode: 94043 Country: US NetRange: 207.200.64.0 - 207.200.127.255 CIDR: 207.200.64.0/18 NetName: NETSCAPE-CIDR NetHandle: NET-207-200-64-0-1 Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS.NETSCAPE.COM NameServer: NS2.NETSCAPE.COM Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE RegDate: 1996-09-06 Updated: 2001-03-28 RTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN RTechName: America Online, Inc. RTechPhone: +1-703-265-4670 RTechEmail: doma...@aol.net > Since it would appear that you always have to be "right," Oh, really? *would appear*, why don't you just speak up? > it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories about me that are not truthful in nature. I have nothing to admit, since I did NOT invent any stories about you, Debbee ***************************************************************************** Adams. ****** > I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address. NO, you did not. In fact you sent me an email form SNIFFFTHIS, and used the name Annie, then signed it B. > I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the group) and make it very perfectly clear that you > have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do, are laughing at you. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Got it? I hope so. > And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because it is part of my name. lol. I thought you said you were not Annie? > Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer reading. lol. Poor Debbee: *I'm no longer reading this newsgroup*. Get help. Now, I will in fact post the email you sent me in another post. And...................... Don't even think about telling me what to do, post, or--otherwise, Debbee. Got that? Debbee A Adams do NOT email me again using different names, and a bit of history From Dbeesti...@aol.com Sat Jun 21 01:21:49 2008 X-Apparently-To: jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net via 209.191.85.222; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:21:56 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [64.12.137.9] Return-Path: <dbeesti...@aol.com> Authentication-Results: mta125.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com from=aol.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig) Received: from 207.115.36.36 (EHLO nlpi007.prodigy.net) (207.115.36.36) by mta125.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:21:56 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [64.12.137.9] Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by nlpi007.prodigy.net (8.13.8 inb regex/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5L8Ls8B013159 for <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:21:54 -0500 Received: from Dbeesti...@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id j.d64.27777f10 (30737) for <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:21:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Dbeesti...@aol.com Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert Message-ID: <d64.27777f10.358e1...@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:21:49 EDT Subject: "Cease and Desist" To: jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d64.27777f10.358e141d_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Length: 3714 June 21, 2008 This written to advise you to "cease and desist" from discussing me, and libeling me any further than you have. I'm tired of you posting about untruthful information about me, and Annie is one of my names. I have proof that my computer was hacked into, and hacked into people connected to Quackwatch. All you are doing is making a bigger fool out of yourself than you already have. Bob Kulacz, and Tim Bolen have copies of the emails I sent. The windows portion of my Mac Book was hacked into, and I'm no longer on Wireless. I am on dial-up. You have no idea of what you are talking about. You falsely accused me of (Bob Kulacz forwarded me the emails) of going to California to stalk Ilena, that I had joined the gang, and that you didn't trust me. This was entire fairy tale that you and Ilena made up, and I'm sorry that you feel that anyone that doesn't agree with you is a LIAR, but you have libelled me for the last time. It will not happen again. I am no longer posting there and there is no further need to discuss me. Ask your attorney to explain what "LIBEL" is. Calling someone a liar just because you don't happen to believe them, is libel. And there are two J. Drew's. It was even pointed out by another poster in the group. Thank you. Deborah Annie Adams -------------------------------------------- OOPs, note is is now J. Drew and not Jan Drew's Now, let's see what both Myrl Jeffcoat and Coleah Ayres has to say about Debbee http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/8239d7e6a3... Oct 27, 2007 Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:52:42 -0000 Local: Sat, Oct 27 2007 10:52 am Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA You have contacted my employer which goes outside the bounds of civil behavior one Usenet. I consider you to be a stalker and abuser. Therefore, I will no longer respond to you except to post this message. YOU ARE HEREBY PLACED ON NOTICE NOT TO ATTEMPT TO CONTACT ME IN THE SLIGHTEST MANNER. YOU ARE NOT TO CONTACT ANYONE ABOUT ME. TO DO SO WILL JUSTIFY MY TAKING FURTHER ACTION, WHEN, WHERE AND WHAT AS I SEE FIT. On Oct 27, 12:16 am, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 26, 4:37 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > For a list of the actual webpages created by Ilena Rosenthal, please visit: > >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com/ilenawebpages.html > > For the Truth and the Facts surrounding Ilena Rosenthal and her foundation, please visit: > >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com > I ran Ilena Rosenthal's name through a bunch of databases. I also called the DRE. Ilena Rosenthal has a license through the DRE, as do you, Myrl Jeffcoat. Have you done anything Myrl or Ilena that would violate the code ethics of the licenses you have?? I'm kind of curious to find out if something I read a while back has any truth attached to it. I have read where fans of celebrities have started websites using the celebrities names in the website address, and the celebrities have successfully been able to have those websites removed because the fan was using a name other than their own in the web address, and without permission. ------------------------------------ Follow that thread. You will see Debbee Adams--Snifffthis has nuked her posts. However, she evidently cannot nuke her profile. http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/948ed26ada... Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant From: Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:56:27 -0700 Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 12:56 pm Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA DEBBEE SAID: "Apparently you have nothing better to do, some of us work for a living. Some of us have real lives." >From the mouth of (2nd from left) blonde: Debbee A Adams (54) San Carlos, CA and Milton, WA http://www.louielouie.net/pix-2007/loufest2007/ep-da-jeff-rfs.jpg I am very happily RETIRED from working. But, thank you for your 'unusual concern' about how I spend MY time. You wouldn't have been 'baiting' to learn who my 'employer' was, so you could complain about me, were you?????? Chortle, chortle, chortle. [Apparently DEBBEE has nothing better to do (while she's 'working' so hard for a living) than to search the internet looking for some kind of 'dirt' on people. The best she could do with me was find a reference to a store I previously owned.] Is that YOUR 'real life', DEBBEE? Certainly writing for little known rag called 60's Beat can't be all you do to pay the rent. >From a few previous poster's mentioning something about DEBBEE and a lawsuit....I got the impression DEBBEE had sued Mark Lindsey of Paul Revere and the Raiders. Alas it appears was the other way around. Funny how she denied any knowledge of it however. http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/536569d0bf... Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:06:53 -0000 Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 8:06 pm Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA On Oct 23, 2:33 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 23, 9:56 am, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote: > I know nothing of what you are speaking about. > I'm not the editor of any publication. > I do not live in Milton, WA or San Carlos, CA > There goes your credibility, Coleah right down the tube. > Deb Adams is not even my real name. So then Debbee - when you contacted corporate GMAC in the last couple of days, to complain about me, you are saying you lied about your name??? --------------------------------------- On Oct 23, 4:43 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 23, 3:50 pm, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote: > It is *not your business*, Miss Busy Body, of *who* I am, *what* I do for a living, and *where* I live. Nor is *your business* what I am even > doing here. This is the Usenet, and ANYONE can post here, for any reason. Got it? Good. Mind your own business, and I'll mind mine. Wow - Debbee is calling people "Miss Busy Body" - and stating it isn't our business to know *who" she is, *what" she does for a living, or *where* she lives. Yet, she sees fit to get into other people's business, calling their employers, etc. and giving fictious and defamatory information. What a piece of work you are Debbee! I can understand why you would wish to come out from under a rock to do your business, and then slither right back under again, once you've done your reptilian handiwork! You appear to be just another "free speech" hypocrite. "BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message news:572e071b-2610-4d60-b4e5-9f45ceae2b93@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com... > Jan Drew wrote: >> lol. Poor Debbee: >> *I'm no longer reading this newsgroup*. >> Get help. >> Now, I will in fact post the email you sent me in another post. And...................... >> Don't even think about telling me what to do, post, or--otherwise, Debbee. >> Got that? > It would appear that you need professional help in dealing with your abusive behavior. > Just because someone has abused you in the past, or present, does not give you the absolute > right to abuse others. Nor does it give you any special privileges to post lies about people you do not even know. > If you do not know where to turn for professional help; I suggest contacting your doctor and asking for referrals. > You are the one that needs help, not me. > I think it would be in your best interest to remove the post you just made. > Thank you. It DOES appear, not *would* that YOU Deborah Annie Adams need professional help. You have NEVER proven a single one of your false accusations. Nor--have you proven you KNOW there are two Jan Drew's posting on any of the same groups *I* Jan Drew post on. There has been no abusive behavior towards you for me. Your words: * Just because someone has abused you in the past, or present, does not give you the absolute right to abuse others.* And, just who would that be? Where did that come from? It DOES appear, you do not know what you are posting about So much for libel. Now, either put up or shut up! Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy ©2009 Google </quote> Jan Drew in another case of Net stalking, as in unknown other cases before and later. What did Jan Drew write?: <quote> I have nothing to admit, since I did NOT invent any stories about you, Debbee ***************************************************************************** Adams. ****** </quote> That is fine because I did not invent any stories about Jan Drew. I only followed this figure and archived material... <quote> Follow that thread. You will see Debbee Adams--Snifffthis has nuked her posts. However, she evidently cannot nuke her profile. </quote> Jan Drew does not seem to know what a boomerang is... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 5. Jan Drew in Bloomington, Indiana =================================== Jan Drew claims to have owned a children day care center. But one of the many things which Jan Drew refused to ever prove was this. Jan Drew even refused to prove that he/she is female. Well, looking for Jan Drew Bloomington reveiled many details. Like this one: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/janet-drew/9/302/551 <quote> Janet Drew Owner, rtired Bloomington, Indiana Area Research Current Owner at rtired Connections 0 connections Public Profile </quote> And this one: http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri =L3N0b3JpZXMvMjAwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24 http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri=L3N0b3JpZXMvMj AwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24 <quote> Janet Drew Thursday, June 26, 2008: 6:23 pm More from 'Janet Drew' God Bless Leon. He is no longer in pain. My daughter Jacque Nelson brought Hinkles from him. ************************* I got to know him. He hadn't felt well for some time. Larrry (his son) and wife Joan took him to their home in Florida. So happy he was with them when he passed away. He will never be forgotten by any here in Bloomington who knew and loved him. ***************************************************** Rest in peace, Leon. </quote> And this one: http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycity/united-states/indiana/bloomington/page/3 <quote> Complaints in Bloomington, Indiana ================================== Intelius Posted: 2008-05-28 by Janet [send email] Credit card not credited Complaint Rating: Talked with Carmen. All charges were to be credited. Conformation # 12056098. $4.95 of 5-14-08 has not been credited. Do so immediately. Janet Drew Reply to jdrew63929@aol.com... *************************** </quote> KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** <quote> Janet Drew Reply to jdrew63929@aol.com... </quote> In may 2008 Jan Drew of Bloomington, Indiana, used the email address jdrew63929@aol.com That is exactly the very same as Jan Drew #1 used: http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=mjG-gxIAAAAcoQ2KLl1VxZeaTlHITt8e 8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg That is for Jan Drew's old account at AOL. jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6. The second marriage of Janet Mae Stidd ========================================= Jan Drew posts as "Jan Drew", but is that really her name? How about Janet or Janice? Remember of of the search engine hits above? <quote> My daughter Jacque Nelson... </quote> Search engines love that... ;O) And they dig out precious little details ... like this: http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm <quote> 318 3 6732 Benjamin David Stidd (DOB: 05/18/1916) [DOD: 02/06/2001]{ M } Father: --- | 5461 Charles Thomas Stidd (DOB: 12/21/1881) [DOD: 00/00/1957] Mother: 311 | 5460 Lorene Sluss (DOB: 03/16/1885) [DOD: 00/00/1939] Spouse/SO: --- | 16325 Alma Mae Selzer (DOB: 10/22/1916) SO's father: --- | 16336 Clarence E. Selzer (DOB: abt. 00/00/1890) [DOD: 12/21/1979] SO's mother: --- | 16337 Erslie Woelflin Children 319 | 16326 Dr. Benton Maurice Stidd (DOB: 06/30/1936) 324 | 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939) ********************************************** 327 | 16335 Dr. Raymond Edward Stidd (DOB: 01/31/1938) Born: Monroe Cty., IN Documentation (birth): + Index to Monroe County, Indiana Birth Records 1882-1920 (re: Book H-8, p 297). Hays shows the year as 1914. Died: Ellettsville, Richland Twp., Monroe Cty., IN Buried: Valhalla Memory Gardens, Bloomington, Bloomington Twp., Monroe Cty., IN Obituary: Benjamin David Stidd, 84 May 18, 1916 - Feb. 6, 2001 ELLETTSVIlLE - Benjamin David Stidd, age 84, of Ellettsville, died Tuesday at his residence. He was born May 18, 1916, in Monroe County, the son of Charles and Lorena (Sluss) Stidd. He was a 1934 graduate of Bloomington High School, and was a retired contractor and well-known farmer residing in the Bean Blossom bottom area of Monroe County most of his life. He was active in the Stinesville Parent Teachers Association and was its president from 1954 to 1956. During World War II, he was involved in the construction of Camp Atterbury in Columbus, the Allison Plant in Indianapolis, as well as a similar facility in Evansville, and finally finished his service at the Crane Naval Station in construction of military facilities. He was a member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church and served in several capacities as deacon and elder. He was married to Alma Mae Selzer of Bloomington in 1934, and she remains. Other survivors include three children, Dr. Benton M. Stidd of Liberty Hollow Road, a retired professor from Western Illinois University, Dr. Raymond E. Stidd of Nashville, a retired Columbus podiatrist, and a daughter, Janet Drew of Bloomington, retired owner of Happy Day Care ************************************************************************** Center; ******* three sisters, Martha Collins and Velma Hall of Bloomington and Jenny Name of Ellettsville; 11 grandchildren and 17 great-grandchildren. He was preceded in death by three brothers, Farwell Stidd, Leon Stidd and Lester Stidd, and two sisters, Louise Richardson and Freda Bain. Funeral service will be 1 p.m. Friday at Day Mortuary Chapel. Burial will be at Valhalla Memory Gardens Mausoleum. Friends may call at Day Mortuary from 5-8 p.m. on Thursday. Friends who wish may make memorial contributions to the scholarship fund of the Stinesville Alumni Association. Addresses: Ellettsville, RichlandTwp., Monroe Cty., IN Military Service: During World War II, he was involved in the construction of Camp Atterbury in Columbus, the Allison Plant in Indianapolis, as well as a similar facility in Evansville, and finally finished his service at the Crane Naval Station in construction of military facilities. Employment/Professions: Farmer Education: Bloomington High School (Bloomington, Monroe Cty., IN) *High School* 1934 Religion: Seventh-day Adventists ******************************** Documents:Obituary Herald-Times (Bloomington, IN), 2/7/2001 Notes: From obituary. THD 22124 </quote> and this: http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm <quote> 324 4 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939) { F } *************************************************** Father: 318 | 6732 Benjamin David Stidd (DOB: 05/18/1916) [DOD: 02/06/2001] Mother: --- | 16325 Alma Mae Selzer (DOB: 10/22/1916) Spouse/SO: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936) ********************************************************** SO's father: --- | 16330 Don Nelson SO's mother: --- | 16331 Anna Bell Jones Spouse/SO: --- | 16332 James William Drew (DOB: 03/29/1935) *********************************************************** SO's father: --- | 16333 James F. Drew SO's mother: --- | 16334 Grace Small Children 325 | 16767 Jeffery Lynn Nelson (DOB: 11/17/1958) 326 | 16768 Jacque Ann Nelson (DOB: 10/22/1960) ************************************************ Addresses: Bloomington, Monroe Cty., IN As of: 02/07/2001 Notes: From the Stidd/Sluss Family record and her father's obituary. +From Tommy Hays' notes. THD 114382 </quote> All the pieces fit together. First, marriage with <quote> Spouse/SO: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936) </quote> which makes the children have the family name Nelson. The second marriage with <quote> Spouse/SO: --- | 16332 James William Drew (DOB: 03/29/1935) *********************************************************** </quote> makes Janet Mae Nelson, nee Stidd, Janet Drew of Bloomington, retired owner of Happy Day Care Center. The details of that: http://www.slicesoftime.net/ourfamily/p97.html <quote> James William "Bill" Drew ************************** M, #I4836, Born: [private] Father:: James Franklin Drew, Born: 19 January 1916 Mother:: Grace Lorraine Small, Born: 29 January 1917, Died: 19 January 1995 Birth: 28 March 1935 Washington, Daviess County, Indiana Family: Marriage: 1 : Peggy Ann Ramage Married: 24 March 1954, Born: [private] Mary Beth Drew, Born: 23 May 1954, Died: 24 May 1954 William Franklin Drew, Born: 21 August 1957, Died: 30 April 1958 + Cheryl Ann Drew, Born: [private] James David Drew, Born: [private] Susan Elaine "Susie" Drew, Born: [private] Marriage: 2 : Janet Mae Stidd Married: 25 November 1970, Born: [private] ******************************************************* Last Updated: 05 March 2008 </quote> http://www.slicesoftime.net/ourfamily/p97.html#I4846 <quote> Janet Mae Stidd *************** F, #I4846, Born: [private] Father:: ? Mother:: ? Birth: 16 March 1938 Family: Marriage: 1 : James William "Bill" Drew Married: 25 November 1970, Born: ****************************************************************** [private] Last Updated: 14 May 2001 </quote> One more detail: http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&searchform=name <quote> Janet M Drew ************ View Details 70 Bloomington, IN (3) ************************************ Spencer, IN (1) Lutz, FL (1) James Drew J B Drew Jan Drew Bill J Drew </quote> "70" is her age, which matches with the other parts in the mosaic. You remember the memorial?: http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri=L3N0b3JpZXMvMj AwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24 <quote> Janet Drew Thursday, June 26, 2008: 6:23 pm More from 'Janet Drew' God Bless Leon. He is no longer in pain. My daughter Jacque Nelson brought Hinkles from him. ************************* I got to know him. He hadn't felt well for some time. Larrry (his son) and wife Joan took him to their home in Florida. So happy he was with them when he passed away. He will never be forgotten by any here in Bloomington who knew and loved him. ***************************************************** Rest in peace, Leon. </quote> Well, there is the counterpart: http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm#16768 <quote> 326 5 16768 Jacque Ann Nelson (DOB: 10/22/1960) { F } *********************************************** Father: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936) ******************************************************* Mother: 324 | 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939) ***************************************************** </quote> Through all the years since the beginning of the logs of jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929) Jan Drew pestered the net: jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929) <quote> Posting-Aktivität Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez. 1999 - - 191 99 54 223 289 260 203 359 297 192 2000 109 276 414 249 461 628 384 284 191 60 416 626 2001 534 152 572 297 677 430 715 621 281 278 392 599 2002 788 481 343 390 508 718 666 643 655 874 561 954 2003 621 866 932 646 629 746 539 593 595 500 521 569 2004 459 692 958 716 749 524 694 1045 784 1007 1151 977 2005 480 1143 206 - - - - 5 - - - 2 2006 3 7 10 157 6 13 21 3 21 43 5 24 2007 74 37 - 5 - 5 2 - 1 - - - 2008 9 - - - 21 - - - - - - - </quote> This is for "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=5J_FIxcAAADGQdj7vwDkkkzclBLHYN6w hUEdIBtH1-9oWMCTqaiMrA <quote> Posting-Aktivität Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez. - .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... 2006 - 157 2293 1921 1837 2092 2273 1865 1797 2453 1600 1042 2007 475 357 406 523 561 490 370 287 326 435 798 552 2008 942 1346 892 1006 579 1076 742 877 451 555 383 424 2009 909 691 585 345 861 835 160 </quote> Jan Drew gives medical advice, which, if followed, can lead to the death of your children and of yourself. Jan Drew lies, Jan Drew forges, Jan Drew seeds hatred, Jan Drew makes MASSIVE advertising for the naturopathic mafia. And: Jan Drew abuses the name of god. TEN YEARS NOW. And Jan Drew, despite all kind or tough pleas NOT to stalk people, continious with here crimionakl behavior. I think that TEN YEARS really is enough time that has been given to her top stop. And now, there definitely is an end. Janet Mae Stidd, married to Mr. Drew on 25th, november, 1970, living in Bloomington, Indiana, do cease and desist your crimes! In the matter of Jan Drew abusing the name of god another detail shows up: the Seventh Day Adventist Church 301 E Matlock Rd Bloomington, IN (812) 332-5025 In its gone web-site the have some strong words concerning their being so very special: http://web.archive.org/web/20031223034424/bloomingtonsda.org/handbook.htm <quote> Home | Up | Feedback | Contents | Search ACA Handbook Excerpts Purpose Aims & Objectives Requirements for Admission PURPOSE In a state in which public schools offer excellent educational opportunities at public expense, a private school should have a special reason for its existence. Adventist Christian Academy , with the unique standards and *********************************************************** character of the Seventh-day Adventist Church , differs ******************************************************* sufficiently from the public school to justify its establishment. ***************************************************************** Christian principles, as practiced by Seventh-day Adventists, have first place in determining the policies of Adventist Christian Academy . The following quotation defines the Seventh-day Adventist concept of Christian education: “True education means more than the pursuit of a certain course of study. It means more than a preparation for the life that now is. It has to do with the whole being and with the whole period of existence possible to man. It is the harmonious development of the physical, the mental, and the spiritual powers. It prepares the student for the joy of service in this world, and for the higher joy of wider service in the world to come.” Education, p. 13. Seventh-day Adventists sincerely believe that Christ is coming literally to this earth to claim His own, but before He comes, the gospel is to be taken into all the world. “With such an army of workers as our youth, rightly trained, might furnish, how soon the message of a crucified, risen, and soon-coming Savior might be carried to the whole world.” Education, p. 271. Adventist Christian Academy begins the training of its youth in this high responsibility. Adventist Christian Academy offers grades K through 8 of formal education. Our school provides a state-approved curriculum and is supervised and accredited through the Education Department of the Indiana Conference of Seventh-Day Adventists. AIMS AND OBJECTIVES “And Jesus increased in wisdom¼” Skills and Knowledge -- To teach the value and necessity of the mental habits of application and concentration. To provide the acquisition of common skills and knowledge essential to scholastic progress. To engender a love of learning that will be carried throughout their life here in this world and into the world to come. “¼And Stature¼” Health and Recreation -- To promote the study and practice of the principles of health and temperance, in the belief that mental and spiritual vigor are in a great degree dependent upon physical health, strength and activity. To guide students in making good choices regarding recreation and leisure time. “¼And in favor with God¼” Relationship to God -- To instill a knowledge of God and love for Him and for Jesus Christ who came into the world to be its Redeemer. To establish belief and practice in the essential relational experience of faith and prayer. To develop respect and reverence for the Bible as the divine Word of God, including the Ten Commandments as the rule of guidance for a complete life. Character -- To present the ideals of true culture and encourage an appreciation of what is pure, true, noble, right and beautiful. To develop an inward fortitude against evil and a sense of personal responsibility in the application of spiritual, social, moral and physical laws that should govern individual conduct. “¼And with man.” Luke 2:52 Home and Family -- To awaken an appreciation of home, where love is the motivating power in the life of every member of the family. Citizenship -- To inspire love of country, loyalty to country, and respect for recognized authority. Service -- To establish in the minds and hearts of the students the Christian motive of service and concern for others as opposed to the incentive of selfish rivalry. To emphasize the value and dignity of labor in the development of character and in carrying out the responsibilities of life. REQUIREMENTS FOR ADMISSION Adventist Christian Academy admits students of any race, color, or ethnic origin, to all the rights, privileges, programs, and activities generally accorded or made available to students. In administration of its educational policies it does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, or ethnic origin. Adventist Christian Academy is operated especially for the youth of the Seventh-day Adventist faith. It is a privilege, not a right to attend A.C.A. However, as space permits, a student who is not a member of the Seventh-day Adventist church may be admitted. It is expected that all students will uphold the standards of Adventist Christian Academy and will cheerfully endeavor to live in harmony with the principles of the school. Parents who, after consultation with the teacher and the principal, find themselves in disagreement with the practices or policies of the school may be asked to withdraw their student. It is recommended that students not be entered in school before they reach the age of six years. Parents of each Kindergarten student must present the student’s birth certificate to the school by July 1st. Students may be required to undergo testing before acceptance or during the first month of the school year. If satisfactory achievement scores are on file at A.C.A., testing may be omitted. The school reserves the right, after testing an applicant and counseling with the parents, to change the grade placement to one more suitable for the student. The school may not be equipped or sufficiently staffed to offer continuous remedial help to students with special needs. Applicants for admission must submit a standard application blank, properly filled out, which will be presented to the A.C.A. Board for final approval. New and returning students should have a G.P.A. of 2.0 (or equivalent) in order to be considered for admission. Students with a recent scholastic performance below 2.0 will be subject to the Scholastic Probation Policy. Deviation from this standard may be done only at the discretion of the school board. Scholastic Probation will be in effect the first nine weeks following admittance. It will be required that the student improve their G.P.A. to a current 2.0 or above within the following nine week period. Continued monitoring of the student’s G.P.A. will be evaluated every three weeks for the next nine weeks. Failure to meet this standard may result in dismissal. Re-admittance during the next or subsequent school years will be evaluated on an individual basis, subject to the previous year’s performance. Also, scholastic performance at any time during the school year, which falls below 2.0 for any nine-week grading period, will result in a Scholastic Probation as outlined above. If at any time during the school year the A.C.A. faculty believes a student needs professional evaluation, and/or testing for learning, behavioral or attention disorders, it is the parents’ responsibility to arrange for such examination and make the results available to A.C.A. faculty in a timely manner (as determined by the principal). If this requirement is not met, the student ***************************************************************************** may be asked to withdraw from school. ***************************************************************************** Send mail to webmaster@bloomingtonadventist.org with questions or comments about this web site. Last modified: December 18, 2003 </quote> I do not know if Janet Mae Stidd, married Drew, is part of the "Seventh-day Adventist Church" of Bloomington, Indiana. But it seems that <quote> "the unique standards and ******************************************************* character of the Seventh-day Adventist Church , differs ******************************************************* sufficiently from the public school to justify its establishment. ***************************************************************** </quote> Perhaps the "Seventh-day Adventist Church" of Bloomington, Indiana, could have some influence on her. Unless she already <quote> may be asked to withdraw from school. </quote> You do know it: The bible is a book about war. It is full of blood shedding and cruelty. These are words by Jan Drew: <quote> Wow - Debbee is calling people "Miss Busy Body" - and stating it isn't our business to know *who" she is, *what" she does for a living, or *where* she lives. Yet, she sees fit to get into other people's business, calling their employers, etc. and giving fictious and defamatory information. What a piece of work you are Debbee! </quote> Jan Drew, THAT "piece of work", has no problem with calling employers, whith making complaints, etc,... Janet Mae Stidd, "Jan Drew", attacks other persons' families. She never gives pardon, she never apologizes, not even for the greatest lie or assault. She has no mercy, she lets children die - consequence of the false advice she gives. To follow her medical claims can lead to the death of your children and of yourself. Signature"Hurenweiberenkelkinder * Gott verstößt die Kindeskinder hasst der Herrgott auch nicht minder. * von Huren(5.Buch Mose,Kap.23) Dies gilt auch für Ammoniter * und die miesen Moabiter." * http://www.reimbibel.de >On Sep 18, 9:32 pm, "Dr. Omgorna Hackenslash MD" ><MadDoc...@Hackenslash.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >the slope is greased................Trig Yes, we got him with his pseudo-religious statements. His medical statements already had been shown to be lies and crap. Now his "religious" stuff is shown to be lies and crap. Nothing left. Too bad... SignatureCharles Berliner: Geschichte der Annaëlle http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_anna.htm Nothing left. > Nothing left. Why can't she have the habit of hitting her tumb with a real big hammer? But, as it is, she harasses other users in the net. Okay then, here we go: FAQ about JAN DREW, the Net stalker and agent for the naturopathic mafia ======================================================================== Part V ====== 1. The 3rd Jan Drew shows up. Who is he? 2. The history of Jan Drew 3. Where is Jan Drew? 4. Bloomington, Indiana - what a town...? 5. Jan Drew in Bloomington, Indiana 6. The second marriage of Janet Mae Stidd 1. The 3rd Jan Drew shows up. Who is he? ======================================== Yesterday, on July 15th., 2009, Jan Drew used this email address: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> today, a Jan Drew shows up and makes the very same mess as the Jan Drew before. The question is: Is this new Jan Drew the very same as the old one? Have a look at this header of a posting by the old Jan Drew: <quote> Reply-To: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> From: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> ******************************************* Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,alt.support.breast-implant,sci.med.dentistry References: <2Tv5m.13822$Dx2.10481@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com> <4a56c915$1@news.x-privat.org> <5887315b-4039-4968-96b4-690ef356cdf7@k20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com> <1n5f55h7u4c42bi46dd3edip1jill4llqg@4ax.com> <c5f6d3c6-9b06-41d2-a108-fd1f1db1c3c7@m18g2000vbi.googlegroups.com> <4a57f60d@news.x-privat.org> <e0ee83b9-fd44-4b4e-aa43-144adc5c81d6@j12g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <4a5949b8@news.x-privat.org> <c3fb2c8b-309c-476f-85e1-105728115430@f16g2000vbf.googlegroups.com> <%tR6m.13435$j84.75@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> <598f2214-9713-4260-b3e6-2970dcad8ef3@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <598f2214-9713-4260-b3e6-2970dcad8ef3@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Turning every which way Lines: 90 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 Message-ID: <NCc7m.16203$j84.2428@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.239.89.125 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1247630893 ST000 70.239.89.125 (Wed, 15 Jul 2009 ************************************************************ 00:08:13 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:08:13 EDT Organization: at&t http://my.att.net/ X-UserInfo1: SCSYQNON_BWWSTT[_X_JJ\UDFZ\@@FXLM@TDOCQDJ@_@FNHBK^RAQFW[ML\THRCKV^GGZKJMGV^^_JSCFFUA_QXFGVSCYRPILH]TRVKC^LSN@DX_HCAFX__@J\DAJBVMY\ZWZCZLPA^MVH_P@\\EOMW\YSXHG__IJQY_@M[A[[AXQ_XDSTAR]\PG]NVAQUVM Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:08:06 -0400 misc.health.alternative:625434 misc.kids.health:185126 alt.support.breast-implant:159698 sci.med.dentistry:311488 [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] wrote in message news:598f2214-9713-4260-b3e6-2970dcad8ef3@r34g2000vba.googlegroups.com... > [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] wrote in message </quote> The old Jan Drew posts from the IP X-Trace: nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1247630893 ST000 70.239.89.125 (Wed, 15 Jul 2009 The new Jan Drew with the email address Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> posts from this IP: Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.239.93.194; See this piece of proof: <quote> From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> ************************************* Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative Subject: Re: TURNABOUT IS FAIR PLAY Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 77 Message-ID: <b2ae85b9-c00d-4ade-8e32-4baa930a2bff@r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> References: <1934e371-d192-4b1e-88be-e8db77045bb3@q35g2000vbi.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.239.93.194 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247775941 27518 127.0.0.1 (16 Jul 2009 20:25:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=70.239.93.194; ************************************************************************* posting-account=OFeWnQoAAABbB1i9TveLsH6hCiYooPyP User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1) Gecko/20090624 Firefox/3.5 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Oh, dear [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] is shouting again. You should be careful. Remember you will be 64 in November of this year. Regardless of all your antics to prove otherwise. The fact is you posted your birthday. On Jul 15, 11:27 pm, [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] wrote: > For years Jan has felt it is her right to report anyone she wishes to > their ISP or email provider. [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > I suggest you read your terms of service > At Gmail.com,Optimum.net, cv.net, and google.com You are not fooling me, [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years]. I happen to know you reported me several days ago. And, what does Torah say about turnabout is fair play? </quote> So we have: From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:25:41 -0700 (PDT) but about an hour later, with the same email address another IP shows up: From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT) See this piece of proof: <quote> From: Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> ********************************************** Newsgroups: alt.support.attn-deficit,sci.med,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health Subject: Re: ADHD Drugs Proven Absolutely Useless for Children - Plus, They Stunt Growth Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:41:12 -0700 (PDT) ********************************************** Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 418 Message-ID: <356ea98d-dfc2-471b-84c5-57daa71288cf@r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com> References: <97f92520-cdcc-4952-bc3f-a8b4e6b3c1e4@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <a6427afd-254c-44e3-9bd9-4d96bce8881a@o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <a9086444-5e6e-4267-89be-6ee0f5cf2cb8@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.112.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247780472 9697 127.0.0.1 (16 Jul 2009 21:41:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.12.112.11; *********************************************************************** posting-account=OFeWnQoAAABbB1i9TveLsH6hCiYooPyP User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; AOL 9.0; Windows NT 6.0; Trident/4.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 (Velocity/3.1.1.5 [uScMs f p eN:t cCMp s ]), HTTP/1.0 spider-mtc-ta11.proxy.aol.com[400C700B] (Prism/1.2.1) On Jul 12, 7:01 pm, [name of person, who is stalked by Jan Drew for years] wrote: > On Jul 12, 1:48 am, bosco62a <bosco...@yahoo.com> wrote: </quote> This is the IP: Injection-Info: r2g2000yqm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.12.112.11; So we see that Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> also uses this IP from AOL: <quote> IP Information for 64.12.112.11 IP Location: United States Reston America Online Inc Resolve Host: spider-mtc-ta11.proxy.aol.com IP Address: 64.12.112.11 Blacklist Status: Clear Whois Record OrgName: America Online, Inc. OrgID: AMERIC-158 Address: 10600 Infantry Ridge Road City: Manassas StateProv: VA PostalCode: 20109 Country: US </quote> AOL is the very same provider which Jan Drew #1 used. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2. The history of Jan Drew ========================== This new Jan Drew is #3 as Jan Drew #1 was the one with the AOL account. #1. jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929) #2. "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> #3. Jan Drew <drewjan43@gmail.com> I looked at the profiles of Jan Drew #1 and Jan Drew #2: http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=mjG-gxIAAAAcoQ2KLl1VxZeaTlHITt8e 8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg That is for Jan Drew's old account at AOL. jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929) <quote> Posting-Aktivität Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez. 1999 - - 191 99 54 223 289 260 203 359 297 192 2000 109 276 414 249 461 628 384 284 191 60 416 626 2001 534 152 572 297 677 430 715 621 281 278 392 599 2002 788 481 343 390 508 718 666 643 655 874 561 954 2003 621 866 932 646 629 746 539 593 595 500 521 569 2004 459 692 958 716 749 524 694 1045 784 1007 1151 977 2005 480 1143 206 - - - - 5 - - - 2 2006 3 7 10 157 6 13 21 3 21 43 5 24 2007 74 37 - 5 - 5 2 - 1 - - - 2008 9 - - - 21 - - - - - - - </quote> This is for "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=5J_FIxcAAADGQdj7vwDkkkzclBLHYN6w hUEdIBtH1-9oWMCTqaiMrA <quote> Posting-Aktivität Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez. - .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... 2006 - 157 2293 1921 1837 2092 2273 1865 1797 2453 1600 1042 2007 475 357 406 523 561 490 370 287 326 435 798 552 2008 942 1346 892 1006 579 1076 742 877 451 555 383 424 2009 909 691 585 345 861 835 423 </quote> As you can see: The old account at AOL still is used, but less often. Here you can see the activities of Jan Drew #3: http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=pps3lhMAAABsyTkDyyCDPfvL_gVgZJy1 WMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3. Where is Jan Drew? ===================== In an old posting I found the word "Bloomington", which made me curious. So I tried to find more about it. This I now found with the word "bloomington": http://www.theangelconnection.net/school9.html <quote> 2433) Bill Drew, Bloomington, Indiana 2434) Jan Drew, Bloomington, Indiana </quote> I also found this: <quote> LookupAnyone.com - People Directory - Jan Drew Drew, Jan L, 63, Cheyenne, WY. Drew, Jana Brittain, 45, Wilmington, NC. Drew, Janelle L, 36, Sublette, IL. Drew, Janet B, 70, Bloomington, IN ... *************************************** www.lookupanyone.com/namelistings/jan-drew.html LookupAnyone.com - People Directory - Jan Harper Harper, Jan L, 84, Loveland, CO. Harper, Jan Drew, 53, Fairview, NC ... Harper, Jan E, 54, Cincinnati, OH. Harper, Jan, Bloomington, IN ... www.lookupanyone.com/namelistings/jan-harper.html </quote> Well, Bloomington turns out to be a town in Indiana. The WHOIS for the IP of Jan Drew #2 (which actually is Jan Drew #3) gives for (see above!) nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com 1247630893 ST000 70.239.89.125 (Wed, 15 Jul 2009 this result: <quote> IP Information for 70.239.89.125 IP Location: United States Bloomington AT&T Internet Services ************************************************************** Resolve Host: adsl-70-239-89-125.dsl.bltnin.sbcglobal.net ********************************************************* IP Address: 70.239.89.125 Blacklist Status: Clear Whois Record OrgName: AT&T Internet Services OrgID: SIS-80 Address: 2701 N. Central Expwy # 2205.15 City: Richardson StateProv: TX PostalCode: 75080 Country: US NetRange: 70.224.0.0 - 70.239.255.255 CIDR: 70.224.0.0/12 NetName: SBCIS-SIS80 NetHandle: NET-70-224-0-0-1 Parent: NET-70-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS1.AMERITECH.NET NameServer: NS2.AMERITECH.NET Comment: RegDate: 2005-03-22 Updated: 2007-05-25 OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE6-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Abuse - Southwestern Bell Internet OrgAbusePhone: +1-800-648-1626 </quote> Bloomington, Indiana. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4. Bloomington, Indiana - what a town...? ========================================= Searching with Jan Drew Blomington one hit is this: <quote> Recently Visited Groups | Help | Sign in misc.health.alternative Message from discussion Debbee/Deborah Annie Adams either Put up or Shut up!--Jan Drew wins the SEA EWE EN TEA Award View parsed - Show only message text Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!out02a.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in04.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!nlpi057.nbdc.sbc.com!prodigy.net!flpi088.ffdc.sbc.com!prodigy.com!flpi107.ffdc.sbc.com!nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com.POSTED!6c044f75!not-for-mail From: "Jan Drew" <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net> ****************************************** Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative,alt.support.breast-implant References: <5fb276c9-4492-466d-8f55-fbc7afb4a5fb@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <8lZ7k.14208$Ri.12268@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com> <2095c8bf-ab0d-4931-98bc-5d70c7ed9203@d19g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <qJF8k.11426$uE5.9260@flpi144.ffdc.sbc.com> <3eba8128-72f8-4d08-95a1-5d326dfa457d@p25g2000pri.googlegroups.com> <4jY8k.29005$ZE5.25632@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com> <ffa52845-c6e5-43e6-bb39-ad264c286823@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com> <g439sm$cjk$1@aioe.org> <8f930eab-5c8f-4d7c-8457-23bae7ebd5ad@h1g2000prh.googlegroups.com> <g43q87$bj6$1@aioe.org> <d055491b-85d5-42b1-997f-4248f15e388f@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <GeE9k.13323$mh5.8143@nlpi067.nbdc.sbc.com> <5a2f4537-a888-4df8-856e-be00515bafc9@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <IOV9k.209$cn7.116@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com> <da69f703-8181-48ac-a5c1-5b9f9f674eef@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <VFUak.460$cn7.243@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com> <e6169a9d-670c-4443-8646-eab425aa66b0@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <e6169a9d-670c-4443-8646-eab425aa66b0@d77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Debbee/Deborah Annie Adams either Put up or Shut up!--Jan Drew wins the SEA EWE EN TEA Award Lines: 463 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18000 Message-ID: <B2hbk.21272$co7.17353@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 70.239.91.212 ******************************** X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com 1215143201 ST000 70.239.91.212 (Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:46:41 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:46:41 EDT Organization: at&t http://my.att.net/ X-UserInfo1: SCSYQN_@OPT[B_\YYJ_BZ]EJUSXB@DTMNHWB_EYLJZ]BGIELNVUEAE[YETZPIWWI[FCIZA^NBFXZ_D[BFNTCNVPDTNTKHWXKB@X^B_OCJLPZ@ET_O[G\XSG@E\G[ZKVLBL^CJINM@I_KVIOR\T_M_AW_M[_BWU_HFA_]@A_A^SGFAUDE_DFTMQPFWVW[QPJN Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:46:08 -0400 You, Deborah Annie Adams first wrote: Jan: Since it would appear that you always have to be "right," it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories about me that are not truthful in nature. I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address. I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the group) and make it very perfectly clear that you have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do, are laughing at you. Would you rather be, "right," in your own mind, or look foolish amongst those that are "in the know." I'm no longer reading this newsgroup, and came back when yet again, you would appear to be a few sandwiches short of a full picnic, and I will not longer tolerate the garbage that is spewing from your toxic mouth. Leave my name out of your discussions. Lose my name from your vocabulary. Got it? I hope so. And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because it is part of my name. Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer reading. "BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message news:5fb276c9-4492-466d-8f55-fbc7afb4a5fb@t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > Jan: Yes, Debbee? OrgName: Netscape Communications Corp. OrgID: NSCP Address: 501 E. Middlefield City: Mountain View StateProv: CA PostalCode: 94043 Country: US NetRange: 207.200.64.0 - 207.200.127.255 CIDR: 207.200.64.0/18 NetName: NETSCAPE-CIDR NetHandle: NET-207-200-64-0-1 Parent: NET-207-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS.NETSCAPE.COM NameServer: NS2.NETSCAPE.COM Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE RegDate: 1996-09-06 Updated: 2001-03-28 RTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN RTechName: America Online, Inc. RTechPhone: +1-703-265-4670 RTechEmail: doma...@aol.net > Since it would appear that you always have to be "right," Oh, really? *would appear*, why don't you just speak up? > it would appear that you can not admit that you invented some stories about me that are not truthful in nature. I have nothing to admit, since I did NOT invent any stories about you, Debbee ***************************************************************************** Adams. ****** > I sent you a "cease and desist" letter from this email address. NO, you did not. In fact you sent me an email form SNIFFFTHIS, and used the name Annie, then signed it B. > I only came back to post (I still get all of the emails from the group) and make it very perfectly clear that you > have no clue of what you are discussing about me, and those that do, are laughing at you. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Got it? I hope so. > And by the way, Annie is a nickname that some people call me because it is part of my name. lol. I thought you said you were not Annie? > Just because I am no longer posting, does not mean I am no longer reading. lol. Poor Debbee: *I'm no longer reading this newsgroup*. Get help. Now, I will in fact post the email you sent me in another post. And...................... Don't even think about telling me what to do, post, or--otherwise, Debbee. Got that? Debbee A Adams do NOT email me again using different names, and a bit of history From Dbeesti...@aol.com Sat Jun 21 01:21:49 2008 X-Apparently-To: jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net via 209.191.85.222; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:21:56 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [64.12.137.9] Return-Path: <dbeesti...@aol.com> Authentication-Results: mta125.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com from=aol.com; domainkeys=neutral (no sig) Received: from 207.115.36.36 (EHLO nlpi007.prodigy.net) (207.115.36.36) by mta125.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 01:21:56 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [64.12.137.9] Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com (imo-m28.mx.aol.com [64.12.137.9]) by nlpi007.prodigy.net (8.13.8 inb regex/8.13.8) with ESMTP id m5L8Ls8B013159 for <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:21:54 -0500 Received: from Dbeesti...@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id j.d64.27777f10 (30737) for <jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net>; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:21:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Dbeesti...@aol.com Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert Message-ID: <d64.27777f10.358e1...@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:21:49 EDT Subject: "Cease and Desist" To: jdrew1...@sbcglobal.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d64.27777f10.358e141d_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 206 X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Length: 3714 June 21, 2008 This written to advise you to "cease and desist" from discussing me, and libeling me any further than you have. I'm tired of you posting about untruthful information about me, and Annie is one of my names. I have proof that my computer was hacked into, and hacked into people connected to Quackwatch. All you are doing is making a bigger fool out of yourself than you already have. Bob Kulacz, and Tim Bolen have copies of the emails I sent. The windows portion of my Mac Book was hacked into, and I'm no longer on Wireless. I am on dial-up. You have no idea of what you are talking about. You falsely accused me of (Bob Kulacz forwarded me the emails) of going to California to stalk Ilena, that I had joined the gang, and that you didn't trust me. This was entire fairy tale that you and Ilena made up, and I'm sorry that you feel that anyone that doesn't agree with you is a LIAR, but you have libelled me for the last time. It will not happen again. I am no longer posting there and there is no further need to discuss me. Ask your attorney to explain what "LIBEL" is. Calling someone a liar just because you don't happen to believe them, is libel. And there are two J. Drew's. It was even pointed out by another poster in the group. Thank you. Deborah Annie Adams -------------------------------------------- OOPs, note is is now J. Drew and not Jan Drew's Now, let's see what both Myrl Jeffcoat and Coleah Ayres has to say about Debbee http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/8239d7e6a3... Oct 27, 2007 Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:52:42 -0000 Local: Sat, Oct 27 2007 10:52 am Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA You have contacted my employer which goes outside the bounds of civil behavior one Usenet. I consider you to be a stalker and abuser. Therefore, I will no longer respond to you except to post this message. YOU ARE HEREBY PLACED ON NOTICE NOT TO ATTEMPT TO CONTACT ME IN THE SLIGHTEST MANNER. YOU ARE NOT TO CONTACT ANYONE ABOUT ME. TO DO SO WILL JUSTIFY MY TAKING FURTHER ACTION, WHEN, WHERE AND WHAT AS I SEE FIT. On Oct 27, 12:16 am, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 26, 4:37 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > For a list of the actual webpages created by Ilena Rosenthal, please visit: > >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com/ilenawebpages.html > > For the Truth and the Facts surrounding Ilena Rosenthal and her foundation, please visit: > >http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com > I ran Ilena Rosenthal's name through a bunch of databases. I also called the DRE. Ilena Rosenthal has a license through the DRE, as do you, Myrl Jeffcoat. Have you done anything Myrl or Ilena that would violate the code ethics of the licenses you have?? I'm kind of curious to find out if something I read a while back has any truth attached to it. I have read where fans of celebrities have started websites using the celebrities names in the website address, and the celebrities have successfully been able to have those websites removed because the fan was using a name other than their own in the web address, and without permission. ------------------------------------ Follow that thread. You will see Debbee Adams--Snifffthis has nuked her posts. However, she evidently cannot nuke her profile. http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/948ed26ada... Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant From: Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:56:27 -0700 Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 12:56 pm Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA DEBBEE SAID: "Apparently you have nothing better to do, some of us work for a living. Some of us have real lives." >From the mouth of (2nd from left) blonde: Debbee A Adams (54) San Carlos, CA and Milton, WA http://www.louielouie.net/pix-2007/loufest2007/ep-da-jeff-rfs.jpg I am very happily RETIRED from working. But, thank you for your 'unusual concern' about how I spend MY time. You wouldn't have been 'baiting' to learn who my 'employer' was, so you could complain about me, were you?????? Chortle, chortle, chortle. [Apparently DEBBEE has nothing better to do (while she's 'working' so hard for a living) than to search the internet looking for some kind of 'dirt' on people. The best she could do with me was find a reference to a store I previously owned.] Is that YOUR 'real life', DEBBEE? Certainly writing for little known rag called 60's Beat can't be all you do to pay the rent. >From a few previous poster's mentioning something about DEBBEE and a lawsuit....I got the impression DEBBEE had sued Mark Lindsey of Paul Revere and the Raiders. Alas it appears was the other way around. Funny how she denied any knowledge of it however. http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/536569d0bf... Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative, alt.support.breast-implant From: Myrl <wisgroup_lea...@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:06:53 -0000 Local: Tues, Oct 23 2007 8:06 pm Subject: Re: To MYRL and ILENA On Oct 23, 2:33 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 23, 9:56 am, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote: > I know nothing of what you are speaking about. > I'm not the editor of any publication. > I do not live in Milton, WA or San Carlos, CA > There goes your credibility, Coleah right down the tube. > Deb Adams is not even my real name. So then Debbee - when you contacted corporate GMAC in the last couple of days, to complain about me, you are saying you lied about your name??? --------------------------------------- On Oct 23, 4:43 pm, "SNIFFFT...@gmail.com" <SNIFFFT...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Oct 23, 3:50 pm, Coleah <col...@pacifier.com> wrote: > It is *not your business*, Miss Busy Body, of *who* I am, *what* I do for a living, and *where* I live. Nor is *your business* what I am even > doing here. This is the Usenet, and ANYONE can post here, for any reason. Got it? Good. Mind your own business, and I'll mind mine. Wow - Debbee is calling people "Miss Busy Body" - and stating it isn't our business to know *who" she is, *what" she does for a living, or *where* she lives. Yet, she sees fit to get into other people's business, calling their employers, etc. and giving fictious and defamatory information. What a piece of work you are Debbee! I can understand why you would wish to come out from under a rock to do your business, and then slither right back under again, once you've done your reptilian handiwork! You appear to be just another "free speech" hypocrite. "BeeStings" <dbeesti...@aol.com> wrote in message news:572e071b-2610-4d60-b4e5-9f45ceae2b93@r37g2000prm.googlegroups.com... > Jan Drew wrote: >> lol. Poor Debbee: >> *I'm no longer reading this newsgroup*. >> Get help. >> Now, I will in fact post the email you sent me in another post. And...................... >> Don't even think about telling me what to do, post, or--otherwise, Debbee. >> Got that? > It would appear that you need professional help in dealing with your abusive behavior. > Just because someone has abused you in the past, or present, does not give you the absolute > right to abuse others. Nor does it give you any special privileges to post lies about people you do not even know. > If you do not know where to turn for professional help; I suggest contacting your doctor and asking for referrals. > You are the one that needs help, not me. > I think it would be in your best interest to remove the post you just made. > Thank you. It DOES appear, not *would* that YOU Deborah Annie Adams need professional help. You have NEVER proven a single one of your false accusations. Nor--have you proven you KNOW there are two Jan Drew's posting on any of the same groups *I* Jan Drew post on. There has been no abusive behavior towards you for me. Your words: * Just because someone has abused you in the past, or present, does not give you the absolute right to abuse others.* And, just who would that be? Where did that come from? It DOES appear, you do not know what you are posting about So much for libel. Now, either put up or shut up! Create a group - Google Groups - Google Home - Terms of Service - Privacy Policy ©2009 Google </quote> Jan Drew in another case of Net stalking, as in unknown other cases before and later. What did Jan Drew write?: <quote> I have nothing to admit, since I did NOT invent any stories about you, Debbee ***************************************************************************** Adams. ****** </quote> That is fine because I did not invent any stories about Jan Drew. I only followed this figure and archived material... <quote> Follow that thread. You will see Debbee Adams--Snifffthis has nuked her posts. However, she evidently cannot nuke her profile. </quote> Jan Drew does not seem to know what a boomerang is... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 5. Jan Drew in Bloomington, Indiana =================================== Jan Drew claims to have owned a children day care center. But one of the many things which Jan Drew refused to ever prove was this. Jan Drew even refused to prove that he/she is female. Well, looking for Jan Drew Bloomington reveiled many details. Like this one: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/janet-drew/9/302/551 <quote> Janet Drew Owner, rtired Bloomington, Indiana Area Research Current Owner at rtired Connections 0 connections Public Profile </quote> And this one: http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri =L3N0b3JpZXMvMjAwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24 http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri=L3N0b3JpZXMvMj AwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24 <quote> Janet Drew Thursday, June 26, 2008: 6:23 pm More from 'Janet Drew' God Bless Leon. He is no longer in pain. My daughter Jacque Nelson brought Hinkles from him. ************************* I got to know him. He hadn't felt well for some time. Larrry (his son) and wife Joan took him to their home in Florida. So happy he was with them when he passed away. He will never be forgotten by any here in Bloomington who knew and loved him. ***************************************************** Rest in peace, Leon. </quote> And this one: http://www.complaintsboard.com/bycity/united-states/indiana/bloomington/page/3 <quote> Complaints in Bloomington, Indiana ================================== Intelius Posted: 2008-05-28 by Janet [send email] Credit card not credited Complaint Rating: Talked with Carmen. All charges were to be credited. Conformation # 12056098. $4.95 of 5-14-08 has not been credited. Do so immediately. Janet Drew Reply to jdrew63929@aol.com... *************************** </quote> KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!! ***************** <quote> Janet Drew Reply to jdrew63929@aol.com... </quote> In may 2008 Jan Drew of Bloomington, Indiana, used the email address jdrew63929@aol.com That is exactly the very same as Jan Drew #1 used: http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=mjG-gxIAAAAcoQ2KLl1VxZeaTlHITt8e 8rhlH0Pnl47z4AZhN98BFg That is for Jan Drew's old account at AOL. jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6. The second marriage of Janet Mae Stidd ========================================= Jan Drew posts as "Jan Drew", but is that really her name? How about Janet or Janice? Remember of of the search engine hits above? <quote> My daughter Jacque Nelson... </quote> Search engines love that... ;O) And they dig out precious little details ... like this: http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm <quote> 318 3 6732 Benjamin David Stidd (DOB: 05/18/1916) [DOD: 02/06/2001]{ M } Father: --- | 5461 Charles Thomas Stidd (DOB: 12/21/1881) [DOD: 00/00/1957] Mother: 311 | 5460 Lorene Sluss (DOB: 03/16/1885) [DOD: 00/00/1939] Spouse/SO: --- | 16325 Alma Mae Selzer (DOB: 10/22/1916) SO's father: --- | 16336 Clarence E. Selzer (DOB: abt. 00/00/1890) [DOD: 12/21/1979] SO's mother: --- | 16337 Erslie Woelflin Children 319 | 16326 Dr. Benton Maurice Stidd (DOB: 06/30/1936) 324 | 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939) ********************************************** 327 | 16335 Dr. Raymond Edward Stidd (DOB: 01/31/1938) Born: Monroe Cty., IN Documentation (birth): + Index to Monroe County, Indiana Birth Records 1882-1920 (re: Book H-8, p 297). Hays shows the year as 1914. Died: Ellettsville, Richland Twp., Monroe Cty., IN Buried: Valhalla Memory Gardens, Bloomington, Bloomington Twp., Monroe Cty., IN Obituary: Benjamin David Stidd, 84 May 18, 1916 - Feb. 6, 2001 ELLETTSVIlLE - Benjamin David Stidd, age 84, of Ellettsville, died Tuesday at his residence. He was born May 18, 1916, in Monroe County, the son of Charles and Lorena (Sluss) Stidd. He was a 1934 graduate of Bloomington High School, and was a retired contractor and well-known farmer residing in the Bean Blossom bottom area of Monroe County most of his life. He was active in the Stinesville Parent Teachers Association and was its president from 1954 to 1956. During World War II, he was involved in the construction of Camp Atterbury in Columbus, the Allison Plant in Indianapolis, as well as a similar facility in Evansville, and finally finished his service at the Crane Naval Station in construction of military facilities. He was a member of the Seventh Day Adventist Church and served in several capacities as deacon and elder. He was married to Alma Mae Selzer of Bloomington in 1934, and she remains. Other survivors include three children, Dr. Benton M. Stidd of Liberty Hollow Road, a retired professor from Western Illinois University, Dr. Raymond E. Stidd of Nashville, a retired Columbus podiatrist, and a daughter, Janet Drew of Bloomington, retired owner of Happy Day Care ************************************************************************** Center; ******* three sisters, Martha Collins and Velma Hall of Bloomington and Jenny Name of Ellettsville; 11 grandchildren and 17 great-grandchildren. He was preceded in death by three brothers, Farwell Stidd, Leon Stidd and Lester Stidd, and two sisters, Louise Richardson and Freda Bain. Funeral service will be 1 p.m. Friday at Day Mortuary Chapel. Burial will be at Valhalla Memory Gardens Mausoleum. Friends may call at Day Mortuary from 5-8 p.m. on Thursday. Friends who wish may make memorial contributions to the scholarship fund of the Stinesville Alumni Association. Addresses: Ellettsville, RichlandTwp., Monroe Cty., IN Military Service: During World War II, he was involved in the construction of Camp Atterbury in Columbus, the Allison Plant in Indianapolis, as well as a similar facility in Evansville, and finally finished his service at the Crane Naval Station in construction of military facilities. Employment/Professions: Farmer Education: Bloomington High School (Bloomington, Monroe Cty., IN) *High School* 1934 Religion: Seventh-day Adventists ******************************** Documents:Obituary Herald-Times (Bloomington, IN), 2/7/2001 Notes: From obituary. THD 22124 </quote> and this: http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm <quote> 324 4 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939) { F } *************************************************** Father: 318 | 6732 Benjamin David Stidd (DOB: 05/18/1916) [DOD: 02/06/2001] Mother: --- | 16325 Alma Mae Selzer (DOB: 10/22/1916) Spouse/SO: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936) ********************************************************** SO's father: --- | 16330 Don Nelson SO's mother: --- | 16331 Anna Bell Jones Spouse/SO: --- | 16332 James William Drew (DOB: 03/29/1935) *********************************************************** SO's father: --- | 16333 James F. Drew SO's mother: --- | 16334 Grace Small Children 325 | 16767 Jeffery Lynn Nelson (DOB: 11/17/1958) 326 | 16768 Jacque Ann Nelson (DOB: 10/22/1960) ************************************************ Addresses: Bloomington, Monroe Cty., IN As of: 02/07/2001 Notes: From the Stidd/Sluss Family record and her father's obituary. +From Tommy Hays' notes. THD 114382 </quote> All the pieces fit together. First, marriage with <quote> Spouse/SO: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936) </quote> which makes the children have the family name Nelson. The second marriage with <quote> Spouse/SO: --- | 16332 James William Drew (DOB: 03/29/1935) *********************************************************** </quote> makes Janet Mae Nelson, nee Stidd, Janet Drew of Bloomington, retired owner of Happy Day Care Center. The details of that: http://www.slicesoftime.net/ourfamily/p97.html <quote> James William "Bill" Drew ************************** M, #I4836, Born: [private] Father:: James Franklin Drew, Born: 19 January 1916 Mother:: Grace Lorraine Small, Born: 29 January 1917, Died: 19 January 1995 Birth: 28 March 1935 Washington, Daviess County, Indiana Family: Marriage: 1 : Peggy Ann Ramage Married: 24 March 1954, Born: [private] Mary Beth Drew, Born: 23 May 1954, Died: 24 May 1954 William Franklin Drew, Born: 21 August 1957, Died: 30 April 1958 + Cheryl Ann Drew, Born: [private] James David Drew, Born: [private] Susan Elaine "Susie" Drew, Born: [private] Marriage: 2 : Janet Mae Stidd Married: 25 November 1970, Born: [private] ******************************************************* Last Updated: 05 March 2008 </quote> http://www.slicesoftime.net/ourfamily/p97.html#I4846 <quote> Janet Mae Stidd *************** F, #I4846, Born: [private] Father:: ? Mother:: ? Birth: 16 March 1938 Family: Marriage: 1 : James William "Bill" Drew Married: 25 November 1970, Born: ****************************************************************** [private] Last Updated: 14 May 2001 </quote> One more detail: http://www.lookupanyone.com/search-summary-out.php?ReportType=1&searchform=name <quote> Janet M Drew ************ View Details 70 Bloomington, IN (3) ************************************ Spencer, IN (1) Lutz, FL (1) James Drew J B Drew Jan Drew Bill J Drew </quote> "70" is her age, which matches with the other parts in the mosaic. You remember the memorial?: http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/comments/cmt.php?sto_uri=L3N0b3JpZXMvMj AwOC8wNi8yNS9uZXdzLnFwLTkxNDQwMjYuc3Rv&start=24 <quote> Janet Drew Thursday, June 26, 2008: 6:23 pm More from 'Janet Drew' God Bless Leon. He is no longer in pain. My daughter Jacque Nelson brought Hinkles from him. ************************* I got to know him. He hadn't felt well for some time. Larrry (his son) and wife Joan took him to their home in Florida. So happy he was with them when he passed away. He will never be forgotten by any here in Bloomington who knew and loved him. ***************************************************** Rest in peace, Leon. </quote> Well, there is the counterpart: http://www.wyandotteenterprises.com/Genealogy/DescendantsOfAndrewRichardson.htm#16768 <quote> 326 5 16768 Jacque Ann Nelson (DOB: 10/22/1960) { F } *********************************************** Father: --- | 16329 Jack Leroy Nelson (DOB: 07/07/1936) ******************************************************* Mother: 324 | 16328 Janet Mae Stidd (DOB: 03/16/1939) ***************************************************** </quote> Through all the years since the beginning of the logs of jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929) Jan Drew pestered the net: jdrew63929@aol.com (JDrew63929) <quote> Posting-Aktivität Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez. 1999 - - 191 99 54 223 289 260 203 359 297 192 2000 109 276 414 249 461 628 384 284 191 60 416 626 2001 534 152 572 297 677 430 715 621 281 278 392 599 2002 788 481 343 390 508 718 666 643 655 874 561 954 2003 621 866 932 646 629 746 539 593 595 500 521 569 2004 459 692 958 716 749 524 694 1045 784 1007 1151 977 2005 480 1143 206 - - - - 5 - - - 2 2006 3 7 10 157 6 13 21 3 21 43 5 24 2007 74 37 - 5 - 5 2 - 1 - - - 2008 9 - - - 21 - - - - - - - </quote> This is for "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> http://groups.google.de/groups/profile?enc_user=5J_FIxcAAADGQdj7vwDkkkzclBLHYN6w hUEdIBtH1-9oWMCTqaiMrA <quote> Posting-Aktivität Jan. Feb. Mrz. Apr. Mai Jun. Jul. Aug. Sep. Okt. Nov. Dez. - .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... 2006 - 157 2293 1921 1837 2092 2273 1865 1797 2453 1600 1042 2007 475 357 406 523 561 490 370 287 326 435 798 552 2008 942 1346 892 1006 579 1076 742 877 451 555 383 424 2009 909 691 585 345 861 835 160 </quote> Jan Drew gives medical advice, which, if followed, can lead to the death of your children and of yourself. Jan Drew lies, Jan Drew forges, Jan Drew seeds hatred, Jan Drew makes MASSIVE advertising for the naturopathic mafia. And: Jan Drew abuses the name of god. TEN YEARS NOW. And Jan Drew, despite all kind or tough pleas NOT to stalk people, continious with here crimionakl behavior. I think that TEN YEARS really is enough time that has been given to her top stop. And now, there definitely is an end. Janet Mae Stidd, married to Mr. Drew on 25th, november, 1970, living in Bloomington, Indiana, do cease and desist your crimes! In the matter of Jan Drew abusing the name of god another detail shows up: the Seventh Day Adventist Church 301 E Matlock Rd Bloomington, IN (812) 332-5025 In its gone web-site the have some strong words concerning their being so very special: http://web.archive.org/web/20031223034424/bloomingtonsda.org/handbook.htm <quote> Home | Up | Feedback | Contents | Search ACA Handbook Excerpts Purpose Aims & Objectives Requirements for Admission PURPOSE In a state in which public schools offer excellent educational opportunities at public expense, a private school should have a special reason for its existence. Adventist Christian Academy , with the unique standards and *********************************************************** character of the Seventh-day Adventist Church , differs ******************************************************* sufficiently from the public school to justify its establishment. ***************************************************************** Christian principles, as practiced by Seventh-day Adventists, have first place in determining the policies of Adventist Christian Academy . The following quotation defines the Seventh-day Adventist concept of Christian education: “True education means more than the pursuit of a certain course of study. It means more than a preparation for the life that now is. It has to do with the whole being and with the whole period of existence possible to man. It is the harmonious development of the physical, the mental, and the spiritual powers. It prepares the student for the joy of service in this world, and for the higher joy of wider service in the world to come.” Education, p. 13. Seventh-day Adventists sincerely believe that Christ is coming literally to this earth to claim His own, but before He comes, the gospel is to be taken into all the world. “With such an army of workers as our youth, rightly trained, might furnish, how soon the message of a crucified, risen, and soon-coming Savior might be carried to the whole world.” Education, p. 271. Adventist Christian Academy begins the training of its youth in this high responsibility. Adventist Christian Academy offers grades K through 8 of formal education. Our school provides a state-approved curriculum and is supervised and accredited through the Education Department of the Indiana Conference of Seventh-Day Adventists. AIMS AND OBJECTIVES “And Jesus increased in wisdom¼” Skills and Knowledge -- To teach the value and necessity of the mental habits of application and concentration. To provide the acquisition of common skills and knowledge essential to scholastic progress. To engender a love of learning that will be carried throughout their life here in this world and into the world to come. “¼And Stature¼” Health and Recreation -- To promote the study and practice of the principles of health and temperance, in the belief that mental and spiritual vigor are in a great degree dependent upon physical health, strength and activity. To guide students in making good choices regarding recreation and leisure time. “¼And in favor with God¼” Relationship to God -- To instill a knowledge of God and love for Him and for Jesus Christ who came into the world to be its Redeemer. To establish belief and practice in the essential relational experience of faith and prayer. To develop respect and reverence for the Bible as the divine Word of God, including the Ten Commandments as the rule of guidance for a complete life. Character -- To present the ideals of true culture and encourage an appreciation of what is pure, true, noble, right and beautiful. To develop an inward fortitude against evil and a sense of personal responsibility in the application of spiritual, social, moral and physical laws that should govern individual conduct. “¼And with man.” Luke 2:52 Home and Family -- To awaken an appreciation of home, where love is the motivating power in the life of every member of the family. Citizenship -- To inspire love of country, loyalty to country, and respect for recognized authority. Service -- To establish in the minds and hearts of the students the Christian motive of service and concern for others as opposed to the incentive of selfish rivalry. To emphasize the value and dignity of labor in the development of character and in carrying out the responsibilities of life. REQUIREMENTS FOR ADMISSION Adventist Christian Academy admits students of any race, color, or ethnic origin, to all the rights, privileges, programs, and activities generally accorded or made available to students. In administration of its educational policies it does not discriminate on the basis of race, color, or ethnic origin. Adventist Christian Academy is operated especially for the youth of the Seventh-day Adventist faith. It is a privilege, not a right to attend A.C.A. However, as space permits, a student who is not a member of the Seventh-day Adventist church may be admitted. It is expected that all students will uphold the standards of Adventist Christian Academy and will cheerfully endeavor to live in harmony with the principles of the school. Parents who, after consultation with the teacher and the principal, find themselves in disagreement with the practices or policies of the school may be asked to withdraw their student. It is recommended that students not be entered in school before they reach the age of six years. Parents of each Kindergarten student must present the student’s birth certificate to the school by July 1st. Students may be required to undergo testing before acceptance or during the first month of the school year. If satisfactory achievement scores are on file at A.C.A., testing may be omitted. The school reserves the right, after testing an applicant and counseling with the parents, to change the grade placement to one more suitable for the student. The school may not be equipped or sufficiently staffed to offer continuous remedial help to students with special needs. Applicants for admission must submit a standard application blank, properly filled out, which will be presented to the A.C.A. Board for final approval. New and returning students should have a G.P.A. of 2.0 (or equivalent) in order to be considered for admission. Students with a recent scholastic performance below 2.0 will be subject to the Scholastic Probation Policy. Deviation from this standard may be done only at the discretion of the school board. Scholastic Probation will be in effect the first nine weeks following admittance. It will be required that the student improve their G.P.A. to a current 2.0 or above within the following nine week period. Continued monitoring of the student’s G.P.A. will be evaluated every three weeks for the next nine weeks. Failure to meet this standard may result in dismissal. Re-admittance during the next or subsequent school years will be evaluated on an individual basis, subject to the previous year’s performance. Also, scholastic performance at any time during the school year, which falls below 2.0 for any nine-week grading period, will result in a Scholastic Probation as outlined above. If at any time during the school year the A.C.A. faculty believes a student needs professional evaluation, and/or testing for learning, behavioral or attention disorders, it is the parents’ responsibility to arrange for such examination and make the results available to A.C.A. faculty in a timely manner (as determined by the principal). If this requirement is not met, the student ***************************************************************************** may be asked to withdraw from school. ***************************************************************************** Send mail to webmaster@bloomingtonadventist.org with questions or comments about this web site. Last modified: December 18, 2003 </quote> I do not know if Janet Mae Stidd, married Drew, is part of the "Seventh-day Adventist Church" of Bloomington, Indiana. But it seems that <quote> "the unique standards and ******************************************************* character of the Seventh-day Adventist Church , differs ******************************************************* sufficiently from the public school to justify its establishment. ***************************************************************** </quote> Perhaps the "Seventh-day Adventist Church" of Bloomington, Indiana, could have some influence on her. Unless she already <quote> may be asked to withdraw from school. </quote> You do know it: The bible is a book about war. It is full of blood shedding and cruelty. These are words by Jan Drew: <quote> Wow - Debbee is calling people "Miss Busy Body" - and stating it isn't our business to know *who" she is, *what" she does for a living, or *where* she lives. Yet, she sees fit to get into other people's business, calling their employers, etc. and giving fictious and defamatory information. What a piece of work you are Debbee! </quote> Jan Drew, THAT "piece of work", has no problem with calling employers, whith making complaints, etc,... Janet Mae Stidd, "Jan Drew", attacks other persons' families. She never gives pardon, she never apologizes, not even for the greatest lie or assault. She has no mercy, she lets children die - consequence of the false advice she gives. To follow her medical claims can lead to the death of your children and of yourself. Signature"Hurenweiberenkelkinder * Gott verstößt die Kindeskinder hasst der Herrgott auch nicht minder. * von Huren(5.Buch Mose,Kap.23) Dies gilt auch für Ammoniter * und die miesen Moabiter." * http://www.reimbibel.de Please join my Prayer Vigil and Fast to excorcise the mocking demon located in Randy ® Young's pitiful self. The prayer Vigil & Fast will be held daily on my Gobly site between 6:66am and 6:66 pm until the mocking demon is excorcised. http://faithguard-moi.blogspot.com/2009/09/prayer-vigil-fast-for-mocker-randy.html SignatureBullspitfire - where every post is archived. http://faithguard-moi.blogspot.com/ >Please join my Prayer Vigil You really do better join all the many people who found this web-site most interesting: http://www.pharmamafia.com It is about all the evil in medicine. By the way: Did you know that doctors want children to become ill? Yes, that is right! They want that. And here http://www.pharmamafia.com you can read the backgrounds. DO IT! Signature"Hurenweiberenkelkinder * Gott verstößt die Kindeskinder hasst der Herrgott auch nicht minder. * von Huren(5.Buch Mose,Kap.23) Dies gilt auch für Ammoniter * und die miesen Moabiter." * http://www.reimbibel.de >>>It is when we are doing things perfectly that we become healthier >>>(hungrier) than ever. >> >> DO STOP YOUR LIES! > >Does Chung ever post anything sensible? ;O) This I consider a rhetoric question. SignatureCharles Berliner: Geschichte der Annaëlle http://www.ariplex.com/ama/ama_anna.htm > It is when we are doing things perfectly that we become healthier > (hungrier) than ever. 1 Timothy 4 Apostasy 1But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 2by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, 3men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the > truth. Thankfully, the 2PD-OMER Approach does not instruct people to abstain from foods which GOD has created as do diets like low-carbing which entails abstaining from bread. It is when we are wonderfully hungry that we are truly grateful for the food we share with others "who believe and know the truth." Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Peter B.: 2 Peter 2:22 Bottom line concerning you: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/0be1900a3a536956? There is pure joy for this born-again Christian to be used by GOD to change hearts: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c? May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WiJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Trust the Truth:" http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb? Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de? Andy Chung Board-certified Nutcase and Author of "The Complete Idiot's guide to being a Complete Idiot" Andy Chung Board-certified Nutcase and Author of "The Complete Idiot's guide to being a Complete Idiot" >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > It is when we are wonderfully hungry that we are truly grateful for > the food we share with others "who believe and know the truth." John 6:35 (New American Standard Bible) 35Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst. Matthew 5:6 "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > from foods which GOD has created as do diets like low-carbing which > > entails abstaining from bread: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/9642aafa0aad16eb? > > It is when we are wonderfully hungry that we are truly grateful for > > the food we share with others "who believe and know the truth." [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > 35Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will > not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst. Amen. This physician is looking forward to receiving his new resurrection body, one like that of an angel not given to either wanting food (hunger) or needing water (thirst). Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Peter B.: 2 Peter 2:22 Bottom line concerning you: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/ba1936325fb8a777? There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c? May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WiJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Trust the Truth:" http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315? Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de? Andy Chung Board-certified Spamming Fuckwadd and Author of "The Idiot's guide to being an Idiot" >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >> will >> not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst. For some reason someone snipped Gods Word from the post, here is the missing Word. Matthew 5:6 "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied. > Amen. > > This physician is looking forward to receiving his new resurrection > body, one like that of an angel not given to either wanting food > (hunger) or needing water (thirst). Philipians 3 20But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body. Revelation 2:7 & 17 7'He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.' 17The Spirit and the bride say, "Come " And let the one who hears say, "Come " And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water of life without cost. Revelation 22:19 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/50c295761956f8a5? > > For some reason someone snipped Gods Word from the post, here is the > missing Word. Lie. GOD's Word remains intact. > Matthew 5:6 > "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they > shall be satisfied. Amen. It is when we are spiritually hungrier that we are also physically hungrier (healthier). "Blessed are you who hunger now; for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Physical hunger is a temporal (time dependent) condition through which we are aware of spiritual hunger while we remain here on earth as temporal beings. . > > This physician is looking forward to receiving his new resurrection > > body, one like that of an angel not given to either wanting food [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so > that they will be like his glorious body. Amen. The bodies of angels are like Jesus' glorious body and not like His resurrection body. Simply recall the Biblical descriptions of the body of the Angel of the LORD. > Revelation 2:7 & 17 > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wishes take the water > of life without cost. Amen. Again, this physician is looking forward to having a new resurrection body that is like the body of angels upon eating from the Tree of Life and drinking the Water of Life, > Revelation 22:19 > 19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, > God will take away his > > part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in > this book. Amen. Thus, you are in trouble for leaving out the rest of the text of Revelation in your post. Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Peter B.: 2 Peter 2:22 Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you: http://WDJW.net/CV Bottom line concerning you: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a643a3f2e24109ec? There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c? May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WiJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Trust the Truth:" http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315? Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de? Andy Chung Board-certified Spamming Fundy Fuckwadd and Author of "Why I Need to get a Life" >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > temporal beings. > . You call yourself a physician? Since when does hunger stop or start by time? When has it ever been dependent on time? >> > This physician is looking forward to receiving his new resurrection >> > body, one like that of an angel not given to either wanting food [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > The bodies of angels are like Jesus' glorious body and not like His > resurrection body. Wrong, His resurrection body has no wings. It bears no resemblance to animals like described in the Bible. You reject all truth and make up your own. Charlatan. > Simply recall the Biblical descriptions of the body of the Angel of > the LORD. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Thus, you are in trouble for leaving out the rest of the text of > Revelation in your post. I am glad you are aware of that statement, I took nothing away nor added to it, nor have I ignored any part of that book. I have no doubt that this statement of yours will be replayed at the final judgement, to your shame. Quoting the "Tree of Life" from which the believers will eat sort of blew your miserable statement about not eating out of the water. How many lives were lost or destroyed before you changed your direction in the medical profession? > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > You call yourself a physician? It remains this physician's personal choice to continue writing truthfully. Sadly the same can not be truthfully written about you: Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Peter B.: 2 Peter 2:22 Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you: http://WDJW.net/CV Bottom line concerning you: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/a643a3f2e24109ec? There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c? May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WiJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Trust the Truth:" http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315? Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de? >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > It remains this physician's personal choice to continue writing > truthfully. You did not address the sarcasm. You also snip just about all truth in your replies. Fear of the Lord is a good thing, running from it not. > Sadly the same can not be truthfully written about you: That is not truth that you spout. You snipped out the truth about hunger not being time dependent. What a sorrowful life you must have. All that knowledge corrupted, turned to dust, reprobate. :( > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > You did not address the sarcasm. There is no need to address sarcasm which is opinion. Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes). Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Peter B.: 2 Peter 2:22 Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you: http://WDJW.net/CV Bottom line concerning you: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3a93a8d803ceeb62? There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c? May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WiJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Trust the Truth:" http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315? Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de? >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes). Then you should draw close to the Lord. A sarcastic question is yet a question. Your last service date was in 2003. You need to be honest and sincere. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > Then you should draw close to the Lord. Matthew 7:1 comes to mind here because your need is infinitely greater as you are not born again of water and Spirit. Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Peter B.: 2 Peter 2:22 Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you: http://WDJW.net/CV Bottom line concerning you: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3a93a8d803ceeb62? There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c? May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WiJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Trust the Truth:" http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven? http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315? Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de? Andy Chung Board-certified Obsessive Compulsive Nut Case >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like > you, Peter B.: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Surely you are not so blind as to not see your folly above. So you say Matthew 7:1 comes to "mind" and yet you write false judgments on others, not just me. Matthew 7 1"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. You are grasping at straws while you are sinking. The Lord is the Rock of my salvation, not you. The Lord God rebukes you and your lying ways. > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote > >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote: [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > So you say Matthew 7:1 comes to "mind" and yet you write false judgments > on others, not just me. It is the Holy Spirit that looks into the heart of faux-christians and concludes by not helping them publicly say "Jesus is LORD" with their mouth. Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like you, Peter B.: 2 Peter 2:22 Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you: http://WDJW.net/CV Bottom line concerning you: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3a93a8d803ceeb62? There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c? May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel 11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth, Who is Jesus: http://T3WiJ.com Amen. Love in the truth, Andrew <>< -- Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD Board-certified Heart Doctor and Author of "Trust the Truth:" http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG "... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor 12:3) http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c? 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