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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / January 2004Carb Blockers
Has anyone tried any of the card blockers available in the diet section??? I don't need to lose any weight but, Blocking some carbs would really help since I'm having a hard time giving up pizza, pasta and rice (my main food groups till I found out I was T2 last summer). >Has anyone tried any of the card blockers available in the diet section??? I >don't need to lose any weight but, Blocking some carbs would really help since >I'm having a hard time giving up pizza, pasta and rice (my main food groups >till I found out I was T2 last summer). JMO but using medication as a quick fix to avoid making a life style/choice is a mistake. Save yourself money and try harder to adjust your food choices is the best option. Pete Diagnosed 20/03/03 Type II D&E + Metformin + Gliclazide + Asprin 210lbs at Dx to BMI 166lbs achieved. To mail: aspen at freeuk.com BG you are grasping at straws. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is too good to be true. with any of those pills you have to cut your carbs. If they worked, everyone would take them. They are not FDA approved and are sold in health food stores, If this worked. all the pharmaceutical companies would grab on to make a fortune. I am sorry, but I think you have to work out your issues without carb blockers. There is a doctor who advertises Cortislim on tv. He says that he and his colleage Dr. Talbot have worked on this for a long time, But he never mentions who Dr. Talbot is , what kind of doctor he is, his whol name. I could be Dr. Talbot . Be careful of these scams Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. I did work out the carb issues, no thanks to the doctor. When I was first told I have T2 after a fire dept yearly physical last july. They told me to come back for "more tests" went in and they did a full work up, went back the next week and they told me I had T2. I felt fine except for a constant thirst, which I told them during the first physical. Told them I had already narrowed it done to a absorbtion problem. She started me on Metformin, a blood pressure pill stating it was good for my liver (BP that day was 122/76 After the nurse already had my all worked up cause I sat in the exam room for almost a hour) Since my nose was stuffed up cause the pollen count was way up that day, put me on allerga and a nasal spray. She also told me I needed to lose about 30 pounds to get down to my idea weight. I am a very active 40 yo 185 lb male with a 34 inch waist. NO FAT!!! I also started that day checking my BS 2 times a day. 200 fasting, 280 after dinner 1 hour. Saw a dietatician she cut my food intake in third. After 5 months of starving myself and taking a handful of pills a day, including trying 3 different blood pressure pills cause They were all droping my pressure to the point of getting dizzy every time I got up. My BS had droped to fasting 160 and after dinner of 220. So I decided to start from the begging and since I needed a base line unmedicated BS levels, I stopped all meds, started eating again so I wasnt hungry all the time, Smaller portions than what I used to, but more often and of what I wanted, and guess what!!! My BS levels started dropping and after a week, leveled off at fasting average 110 and 1 hour after dinner 140. I did cut back on the carbs, soda and milk to get it down to this. So I am not looking for a "Fast" fix, I would like to enjoy a pizza and beer once in a while when we go out to eat without screwing up my BS for a few days. After all the pills and money the doc pushed for the first 5 months a few bucks for a carb blocker might ok. I have been with the emergency side of the medical field since I became a EMT at 16 and joined a VFD and the ski patrol. I have worked full time in the EMS field since I was 19 and saw for years how doctors push pills to treat the symptions instead of the cause. I even gave it a try and poped every pill my doc wanted for 5 months and I have never felt worse. I go in for blood work in about a week for my a1c and we'll see how it droped. The pills dropped it 1 pt. > I did work out the carb issues, no thanks to the doctor. When I was first > told I have T2 after a fire dept yearly physical last july. They told me to [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > I go in for blood work in about a week for my a1c and we'll see how it droped. > The pills dropped it 1 pt. BDBaldwin, Congratulations! I know it's a lot of work. "Eenie Weenie Chili Beanie, The Spirits are about to Speak: In your future I see you becoming a Dr. and finding a cure for all your ills. How do I know this? Because of my Crystal Ball? No. Because I said so - and I *never* lie. HAH!" [for entertainment purposes only]  SignatureSteve, T2 - 9/29/03 A1c 5.5 - 1/23/04 Amaryl & Metformin > I did work out the carb issues, no thanks to the doctor. When I was first > told I have T2 after a fire dept yearly physical last july. They told me to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > me on allerga and a nasal spray. She also told me I needed to lose about 30 > pounds to get down to my idea weight. I don't know about any BP pills being good for the liver, although some offer protection for the kidneys. Your BP was slightly high at the time. I konw it doesn't sound high, but they've lowered the standards for diabetics. As for weight loss, that can bring BG down for some people. But it doesn't always. And in my opinion should be secondary to getting BG under control. > I am a very active 40 yo 185 lb male with a 34 inch waist. NO FAT!!! I also started that day >checking my BS 2 times a day. 200 fasting, 280 after dinner 1 hour. Saw a dietatician she cut > my food intake in third. After 5 months of starving myself and taking a > handful of pills a day, including trying 3 different blood pressure pills [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > leveled off at fasting average 110 and 1 hour after dinner 140. I did cut back > on the carbs, soda and milk to get it down to this. You cut back on soda? Are you saying that after diagnosis you continued to drink regular soda? If that's the case, it's no wonder you couldn't get your BG under control. And it is referred to here as BG (blood glucose). BS is something else. And you say that it was 140 at 1 hour after dinner. But what about at 2 hours after? That's the critical time to test. What is it after breakfast? After lunch? > So I am not looking for a "Fast" fix, I would like to enjoy a pizza and beer > once in a while when we go out to eat without screwing up my BS for a few days. > After all the pills and money the doc pushed for the first 5 months a few > bucks for a carb blocker might ok. You have diabetes now. You may never be able to enjoy pizza and beer again. I have found pizza at a few places that I can eat, but I must eat only one or maybe 2 (if they are very small) slices along with a salad. Any more than that, and my BG goes too high. Luckily, pizza is not a favorite food, so giving it up is no big deal to me. The meds the Dr. presribed for you are all typical meds for diabetics. Okay, not all of us have allergies, but what she prescribed for your allergies are common medications. Not sure what your beef is about those. If the pollen count is high, you're not going to be affected by it unless you do have allergies to the specific pollen that is in the air. If you have allergies, they need to be treated. Left untreated, the allergies could cause your BG to be too high, or could lead to sinus and ear infections. > I have been with the emergency side of the medical field since I became a EMT > at 16 and joined a VFD and the ski patrol. I have worked full time in the EMS > field since I was 19 and saw for years how doctors push pills to treat the > symptions instead of the cause. I even gave it a try and poped every pill my > doc wanted for 5 months and I have never felt worse. *Some* Drs. push pills. If the one you are seeing is a pill pusher, then you need to find another one. Are you seeing an Endocrinologist? If not, you should be. They are the diabetes experts. All meds have side effects. But that doesn't mean you will get the side effects. That also doesn't necessarily mean that you need to take them. But with BG like you had, it sounds to me like some kind of meds were warranted, at least in the beginning. <snip> SignatureType 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ Under 140 is good at one hour, but the definitive time is the two hour post prandial. I personally dont believe you are testing enough to get a true and clear picture of what is going on. Jennifer will be here with advice to newbies, newbies to this group and our suggestions, It is very worthwhile advice she renders. What woks for me is portion control, You dont have to never eat pizza again, just might the right choice, Thin crust with lots of veggies and perhaps chicken on it. One slick, See how that goes, If you are too high, try not eating the back crust. A light beer is fine, not everyday but once n a while why, not. Basically I eat whatever foods I want, but the portion size is what does it for me. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. >I did work out the carb issues, no thanks to the doctor. When I was first >told I have T2 after a fire dept yearly physical last july. They told me to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >pounds to get down to my idea weight. I am a very active 40 yo 185 lb male >with a 34 inch waist. NO FAT!!! Metformin is a good medication, as a side effect, it helps your heart health. You were probably put on an Ace Inhibitor, or an ARB for you BP, which looks good to me to begin with, but is being automatically prescribed by some medicos for liver and kidney health. It isn't doing you any good if you are getting low BP. Your weight and waist size sound fine, but if you are 5' tall, maybe not so good. So it is tough to judge without knowing your height, (though you say you carry no fat, your doc, or nurse, or whomever told you to lose weight , may be basing it on the generic BM Index, which doesn't suit all body types) Also tough to judge is what is going on without knowing specific Metformin dosage, and specific info on which BP meds, and what dosages. > I also started that day checking my BS 2 >times a day. 200 fasting, 280 after dinner 1 hour. Saw a dietatician she cut [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >leveled off at fasting average 110 and 1 hour after dinner 140. I did cut back >on the carbs, soda and milk to get it down to this. The results of your "experiment" sound good, with this caveat. IMO you are not testing enough. When just starting out, it might behoove you to test FBG: Fasting Blood Glucose-Very important to find out what your body has done overnight, and a baseline for the day. You could also try to test 1 and 2 hours after eating to see how you are trending. You could also test right before bed, which makes your fasting FBG make more sense. If you don't need to lose wight, cutting your overall food intake by 1/3 sounds nutz to me. How was this based? Caloric intake? What you have to do, is eat better, and if you don't need to lose weight, not necessarily less. You have cut a lot of the more obvious carb sources, but there are a lot more. BTW, were you sent to any diabetes classes? Have you been taught the value of reading nutrition info on food labels? BTW, around here, the term used is BG (blood glucose) as we all know an alternate for the abbreviation BS. >So I am not looking for a "Fast" fix, I would like to enjoy a pizza and beer >once in a while when we go out to eat without screwing up my BS for a few days. > After all the pills and money the doc pushed for the first 5 months a few >bucks for a carb blocker might ok. Don't waste your money on carb blockers. There is no reason why you can't have pizza and beer occasionally. There is no need to deprive yourself of anything! You need to learn how different foods affect *YOU*. and what different sized portions of food do to you. They are all different to all of us. Hence the need for lots of testing until you get it all down, and maintenance testing when you do. >I have been with the emergency side of the medical field since I became a EMT >at 16 and joined a VFD and the ski patrol. I have worked full time in the EMS [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I go in for blood work in about a week for my a1c and we'll see how it droped. >The pills dropped it 1 pt. Some people can control their diabetes with Diet and Exercise (D&E) alone. They are the lucky ones. The rest of us have to continue the D&E, but need meds to get us the rest of the way. No disgrace if that is what you have to do. Sleepy ----------------- Eskimo/Inuit up! ----------------- T2- 3/14/01 > So I am not looking for a "Fast" fix, I would like to enjoy a pizza and beer > once in a while when we go out to eat without screwing up my BS for a few days. > After all the pills and money the doc pushed for the first 5 months a few > bucks for a carb blocker might ok. I hear you, BD. I asked the same question some time ago but don't recall anyone answering who'd ever tried one of the products. There are a lot of them on the market, and somebody's buying them. Wanting to know if there's anything to the carb blockers doesn't necessarily mean you're looking for a magic pill that you can take and forget you have diabetes. It would be nice, though, if it could enhance your bg control *once in a while* when you want to go have that pizza and beer without worrying how much you'll spike. I'll keep reading, maybe somewhere down the thread is our answer. kaci Hi Kaci, finally someone who thinks like me. I'm just looking for something to help out a little once in a while. It's rough to go out with a few couples and sit there eating only 1 slice and only 1 glass of bud. Not that I want to go out eat a whole pizza and a six pack or 3 by myself every night. (did enough of that in high school and college!!) But eating a normal meal and not hitting 350 would be kinda nice. I just asked a simple question in here, if anyone tried any and if so which one and what were the results. Since carbs are the problem a carb blocker seems to be the answer. You have to understand the doctors point of view, why put you on a over the counter cheap pill when they can sell you something for a $100.00 a bottle in which they own stock in the company. They make more money keeping you sick. > Hi Kaci, finally someone who thinks like me. I'm just looking for something > to help out a little once in a while. It's rough to go out with a few couples [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > $100.00 a bottle in which they own stock in the company. They make more money > keeping you sick. A real honest to goodness carb blocker would be great, wouldn't it? Somehow these things always come with a price.... either they give you awful gas because of the undigested material or worse. :-( SignatureEvelyn (To reply to me personally, remove sox) >Hi Kaci, finally someone who thinks like me. I'm just looking for something >to help out a little once in a while. It's rough to go out with a few couples [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >$100.00 a bottle in which they own stock in the company. They make more money >keeping you sick. Keep looking for your easy answers if you want. If they were out there, all diabetics would be using them all the time, no one would ever have high BGs, heart problems, kidney problems, blindness, amputations etc. etc. So you just keep looking. When you find the magic formula you let us all know. We can all eat what we want, when we want to and no more worries about diabetes. SM ----------------- Eskimo/Inuit up! ----------------- T2- 3/14/01 >So I am not looking for a "Fast" fix, I would like to enjoy a pizza and beer >once in a while when we go out to eat without screwing up my BS for a few days. > After all the pills and money the doc pushed for the first 5 months a few >bucks for a carb blocker might ok. What I would do if I were you BD, is check the bottles of the over the counter "Carb Blockers", you will I'm sure notice that you will have to take more of them (per meal) than you might think, to cover even a small amount of carbs. There are a couple of persciption meds (Precose is one of them I know about), that do the same thing that may cover more in the way of carbs that the OTC's will. >I go in for blood work in about a week for my a1c and we'll see how it droped. >The pills dropped it 1 pt. Only thing I can say about this, is that it takes time being under control before the A1c starts to move downward. Meds or no meds. And 5 months ould have pretty much been within the range of one a1c test to the next for the most part (if doing them every 3 to 4 months). > My BS levels started dropping and after a week, >leveled off at fasting average 110 and 1 hour after dinner 140. I did cut back >on the carbs, soda and milk to get it down to this. It's great that you have gotten things down this far, and if that's the best you can do off meds, then thats the best you can do. But if you are indeed active, I have a feeling your post meal readings can get better. You say your one hour post meal reading is 140, what is the two hour reading post meals? Have you have any problem with low blood sugars? Also the soda that you are drinking, is that regular or diet? I personally, once I got my bg levels in a pretty good range, have been able to handle a lot more carbs than a lot of folks in the newsgroup, and much more carbs that I could have the first year after being Dx'ed. I still enjoy pizza every now and again and still keep my bg in the range I like to keep it in. Exercise (for me) really helps in this, and allows me to not have to plan as much as I might have in the past, as to what I can or can't have for dinner or a snack. Does this mean I don't watch what I eat? Nope I still make sure I'm not overdoing it on carbs or anything else for that matter. -- Terrell type 2, dumped the metformin D&E for now... <snip> > There is a doctor who advertises Cortislim on tv. He says that he and > his colleage Dr. Talbot have worked on this for a long time, But he > never mentions who Dr. Talbot is , what kind of doctor he is, his whol > name. I could be Dr. Talbot . Be careful of these scams > > Loretta (I'm Dr. Talbot. Talbot is short for "Tall Bottom"). Did you notice the banner at the Bottom (get it?) of our TV Ad? We'll give you a bottle of Cortislim for Free! (Of course you must buy the first bottle at US$75.00 +s/h (and/or VAT) to get the second bottle free...). And (in teeny, tiny, little print) "We reserve the right to charge more of the stuff on your credit card as we deem desirable, without your prior permission". And thank you for making our scam, err, business so successful ;-) [Disclaimer: The above statements are false, untrue, fictitious and down-right fake. I am not Dr. Talbot - whoever she/he is!] SignatureSteve, T2 - 9/29/03 A1c 5.5 - 1/23/04 Amaryl & Metformin "When I worked on the farm, we had a "Dr. Talbot" who was the farm vet. He specialized in the care of swine. Said he was going to 'make it big' someday." "I laughed so hard my sphincter exploded! Steve I called the 800 number today and asked who Dr. Talbot is. I asked how come they dont mention his first name, The rep said they mention it twice. They said they could sell me his book if I wanted to learn about him. I finally got Dr. Sean Talbot. He is supposed to work at the University of Utah in the nutrition department, probably the cook. I did a google search and came up with zippo. Can anyone find info on this guy. Like I would buy a book that they would sell extolling the merits of doctor talbot, lower case purposesly used. He is a doctor like I am the president. Maybe someone can prove me wrong. The commercial says a free bottle for the first twenty five customers. I was offered the free bottle, I must have been one of hundreds if not thousands. What a scam. There outta be a law, and maybe there is. Loretta -- In tribute to the United States of America and the State of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and terrorism. Prescription drugs that slow the digestion of carbs work very well to avoid blood sugar spikes for some people. Precose is one of these drugs. The carbs eventually do hit your blood stream, but more slowly. My experience is that you can add an additional 10 -20 grams to a meal with the help of Precose. However, I have heard that these drugs are only effective if your body is still able to respond to your second phase insulin response--i.e. if you are in the earlier phase of diabetes. That's because slowing the digestion of carbs lets your insulin production catch up with them. If you produce very little insulin, the spike will only be postponed, not eliminated. The over the counter "carb blockers" are something else, and probably don't work. http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/blockers.htm is a page I put together exploring this topic. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm > Has anyone tried any of the card blockers available in the diet section??? I > don't need to lose any weight but, Blocking some carbs would really help since > I'm having a hard time giving up pizza, pasta and rice (my main food groups > till I found out I was T2 last summer). > Has anyone tried any of the card blockers available in the diet section??? I > don't need to lose any weight but, Blocking some carbs would really help since > I'm having a hard time giving up pizza, pasta and rice (my main food groups > till I found out I was T2 last summer). No, and I would not try them. Assuming that they work like they say, (they probably don't), they could be dangerous for a diabetic. Why? They could lead to a hypo. I've also heard that the main thing they do is cause a lot of gas. I don't need that. SignatureType 2 http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/ >Has anyone tried any of the card blockers available in the diet section??? I >don't need to lose any weight but, Blocking some carbs would really help since >I'm having a hard time giving up pizza, pasta and rice (my main food groups >till I found out I was T2 last summer). I have not tried an OTC carb blocker but have been taking Precose (Acarbose) as directed by my doctor. My experience with Precose is that it will cause BG to be about 10 to 15 points lower than without at 2 hours after eating. I do experience some stomach problems when taking Precose. As a side issue, last night I ate a meal that was high in carbs. I did take Precose before starting the meal and at two hours after eating I was way high, 210. I went straight away and did 20 minutes on my Elliptical Trainer and retested. Was down to 123. I believe that demonstrates that if one should eat a high carb meal then do some vigorous exercise they may accomplish pretty fair control. The response of BG to exercise is not unusual for me, if I exercise after a meal I can do very well at regulating BG. So try your pizza and a beer and do some exercise after and see how you do. May find out you can do without any additional meds. rb RB, What people often don't know about Precose is that it will NOT slow down the digestion of glucose or corn syrup or corn starch. So maple syrup, some gravies and soups, and chinese foods will cause huge spikes. However, Precose will block bread and sugar nicely. Also, to avoid stomach problems, only use the Precose once every day or every other day. I find that it works great if I do that, but by the 2nd or 3rd meal in a row, watch out--gas attack. I've used it for a couple years now and it has really made low carbing a whole lot more doable since every now and then I can have something off plan without blowing my blood sugar off the charts. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm > >Has anyone tried any of the card blockers available in the diet section??? I > >don't need to lose any weight but, Blocking some carbs would really help since [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > rb Height is 5'10 185 lbs (+ or - 5lbs) since high school. Like I said, very active, Firefighter, EMS and a former swat medic. Spend my free time caving, atv's and fishing. My biggest concern is after seeing and watching my patients for the last 20 years start with T2 following the doctors orders and end up going blind and losing their feet going to a dialysis center 3 times a week. My feet never bothered me in my life, after starting all the junk the doc put me on, they hurt all the time. (now that I stoped everthing, they are fine!!!) My last visit (before christmas) all she (the doc) was worried about was trying to get me to get a flu shot. On and on she went on. I haven't had the flu in 20 years and can't remember the last time I had anything more than the sniffles. My intentions were and still are to find a new doc, hence quitting all my meds. Since the BG is now going down, going to wait and have my A1C checked and when she tries to take the credit, I'll explain what I did. >Height is 5'10 185 lbs (+ or - 5lbs) since high school. Like I said, very >active, Firefighter, EMS and a former swat medic. Spend my free time caving, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >and have my A1C checked and when she tries to take the credit, I'll explain >what I did. I'm with you on the no meds thing. I prefer to just eat right and exercise to keep my BG's down, especially since it always works. I've never taken meds, the doc was going to put me on them, but I asked to try this, first. I took a brief "vacation" from eating right and exercising, and did ok, but the symptoms returned, so I'm back on track, now. Peace, Linda Bushisms: "I've got very good relations with President Mubarak and Crown Prince Abdallah and the King of Jordan, Gulf Coast countries." -George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 29, 2003 Join us in the Diabetic-Talk Chatroom on UnderNet /server irc.undernet.org --- /join #Diabetic-Talk More info: http://www.diabetic-talk.org/ Thanks Jenny, I did not know about the glucose, corn syrup or corn starch and Precose relationship you mentioned. That explains last nights spike. I had chinese food last night and it was a dish I had not tried before. It had a sweet coating and of course I ate some of the fried rice also. I knew that I would go high but did not anticipate going over 200. At least I do get a strong response from exercise. Also as you mentioned I only take the Precose with my evening meal and then not every day. I agree that taking it to often will aggravate its side effects. As far as the original posters questions are concerned, I still suggest that they eat whatever it is they want and then do some intense exercise for 20 to 30 minutes and see what the results are. They may be pleasantly surprised. rb >RB, > [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >> >> rb RB, It is criminal the way that doctors hand people prescriptions and never explain the intricacies of how they work. I only found out about Precose not blocking corn products after some serious googling. Precose has a very good track record. As everyone who reads my messages knows, I'm very paranoid about meds of all kinds, having had serious irreversible side effects from some "normal" dosages of common meds. However, according to the studies I've seen, Precose doesn't get into the body and it can lower hba1c about 1%. When I went off the low carb diet for a year (back to maybe 120-150 grams a day) I was able to use Precose to keep my hba1c in the low 6% range. However, I think it is most useful as a "safety valve" that lets a person with diabetes have the occasional indulgence without blasting the blood sugar into the stratosphere. I also like the fact that it is "self-limiting." Use it now and then and it's a godsend. Use it too much and you are so miserable and gassy that you swear off carbs for a month. <g> It is expensive, however, since I don't use it more than a couple times a week, I'm able to make one 90 pill prescription last 6 months so it's not that big a hit. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm > Thanks Jenny, I did not know about the glucose, corn syrup or corn > starch and Precose relationship you mentioned. That explains last [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > >> > >> rb Eat pizza, pasta, and rice; just test with a meter to find what amounts of same don't exceed your post meal bg level goal. > Has anyone tried any of the card blockers available in the diet section??? I > don't need to lose any weight but, Blocking some carbs would really help since > I'm having a hard time giving up pizza, pasta and rice (my main food groups > till I found out I was T2 last summer). Quite some time back we had a long and heated discussion about pizza and whether or not we can eat it. I can still enjoy pizza so long as we get the right kind. That is the Pizza Hut thin crust with the toppings we like and very well done, so it is extra crisp. We get the medium. I don't eat the edge crust. The only way I found out that I can tolerate it was by testing at one, two and three hours afterward. Many of us cannot eat more than one slice, if that. Pasta? Have you tried eating a large green salad with a low or no carb dressing and then eating only what is considered a serving of pasta instead of the obscene amount they serve in most restaurants? Rice? I can't do white rice at all. It raises my BG just about as fast as milk or orange juice. Brown rice is just fine in small amounts. Be careful about Chinese restaurants claiming their fried rice is brown rice. The one a couple of blocks up the street tried to tell me that. When I asked if it came out of a different bag before they cooked it they said, "Well no, but it is brown after its cooked!" I don't know if it was the language barrier or what, but they couldn't seem to understand what I meant by brown rice. I just tell them to not give me any rice. Oh, and you do have to be careful about entrées you order too. Many of them are loaded with sugar and/or starch. It's best to order the sauce on the side and then only use a little. Best of luck you you. Remember test, Test, TEST!!! -- DO NOT REPLY TO ADDRESS LISTED ABOVE AS IT IS FALSE. ============================================================================== Chuck -ô¿ô- ~ email: upon request I will be send it to you at email address you provide. For psoriasis information go to: http://www.psoriasis.org/forum/ > Has anyone tried any of the card blockers available in the diet section??? I > don't need to lose any weight but, Blocking some carbs would really help since > I'm having a hard time giving up pizza, pasta and rice (my main food groups > till I found out I was T2 last summer). Carb blockers only work in vitro, not in vivo. So don't waste your money. Jerry |
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