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Loretta Eisenberg - 25 Jul 2009 15:11 GMT
I am reading an article by Dr.Ted Mitchell in USA Weekend,  He said  if
the systolic number is 140 or higher that is high blood pressure even if
the distolic number is lower,  If the systolic number is lower than 140
but the distolic number is 90 or over , that is also considered high
blood pressure  Dr, Mitchell is President of Dallas Cooper Clinic

the example he gave was 145/84 considered high blood pressure

Just passing this info on

Loretta

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MaryL - 25 Jul 2009 15:55 GMT
>I am reading an article by Dr.Ted Mitchell in USA Weekend,  He said  if
> the systolic number is 140 or higher that is high blood pressure even if
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> I

I sometimes go to meetings of the diabetes support group at one of our local
hospitals.  We were given the same information as what you cited.  In
addition, we were told that even 140 is too high for a diabetic because we
already face the possibility of multiple health issues.  They said that a
diabetic should strive to remain under 120 systolic.  Of course (as I said
in another thread), this number will change significantly if the patient has
been active immediately before being tested.  I believe the standard is to
remain relaxed and quiet for awhile before testing BP.

MaryL
bgl - 25 Jul 2009 21:29 GMT
> Of course (as I said in another thread), this number will change
> significantly if the patient has been active immediately before being
> tested.  I believe the standard is to remain relaxed and quiet for awhile
> before testing BP.

Funny thing, though -- you go to the doctor, sit a while in the waiting
room, & instead of having your bp checked while you're reasonably relaxed,
the nurse/assistant/tech/whoever rushes you into "the back" & does the
vitals check while you're still catching your breath from picking up your
stuff & hurrying-along after the usually impatient staffer. Sometimes there
isn't even a regular chair to sit on, just a hop-up-on bar-stool (I may
start telling that office I'm too old to do that :-) and considering this is
an ob/gyn I have to wonder how they treat the very-pregnant-patients...).
And of course they're talking to you & asking questions while they do it,
expecting you to answer even if you do have a thermometer stuck in your
mouth & for bp check you're not supposed to talk anyway!

No wonder my bp is so often so much higher than when the doctor takes it
later (which some do).
bj
MaryL - 25 Jul 2009 22:49 GMT
>> Of course (as I said in another thread), this number will change
>> significantly if the patient has been active immediately before being
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> later (which some do).
> bj

Yes, I've often thought about that.  My BP has been about 112-115/88-90 for
the last few visits, but I wonder what it would be if I sat for awhile (as
recommended) before being tested.  It is lower at home, but that is on my
own equipment.

MaryL
Susan - 26 Jul 2009 00:30 GMT
> Yes, I've often thought about that.  My BP has been about 112-115/88-90
> for the last few visits, but I wonder what it would be if I sat for
> awhile (as recommended) before being tested.  It is lower at home, but
> that is on my own equipment.

If you haven't done so already, bring your home cuff to your doctor's
office and compare them.

My bp is very low at home, and was very high, same as my doc's number,
in the office.  Definite case of white coat hypertension, and now I know
my meter's accuracy.

Susan
MaryL - 26 Jul 2009 02:14 GMT
> x-no-archive: yes
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> Susan

That's what I should have done--keep thinking about it, then forget on the
day of appointments. I have done that with my glucose monitor, and it has
been remarkably accurate.

MaryL
Tiger Lily - 26 Jul 2009 02:40 GMT
>> No wonder my bp is so often so much higher than when the doctor takes it
>> later (which some do).
>> bj

> Yes, I've often thought about that.  My BP has been about 112-115/88-90
> for the last few visits, but I wonder what it would be if I sat for
> awhile (as recommended) before being tested.  It is lower at home, but
> that is on my own equipment.
>
> MaryL

a smile.........

i didn't get away from work 'on time to make it to the lab' one
day..........
the lab was a mile away, and i figured if i ran like the dicken's i
could make it in time......
they were almost closed when i arrived, and they hurried me thru the
various tech's
my BP was 100/60 and the nurse said 'you must be very relaxed'
she didn't believe i had just freaked and RAN a mile to get there before
they closed
LOL

kate
bgl - 26 Jul 2009 02:53 GMT
> i didn't get away from work 'on time to make it to the lab' one
> day..........
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> kate

I once had my bp taken within, oh, about 1/2 hr of a race start; it was high
(no surprise, I was jazzed up). Had it taken again a few minutes after
finishing and it was *low*. Both were done standing up, as I was too
impatient to sit for the "before" & wanted the same method for the "after"
(I have the #s around "somwhere").

Running must open up the pipes or something -- but it can't be "running from
the chair to the back office hurrying after the impatient nurse" it has to
be proper running for more than that 30seconds. :-)
bj
W. Baker - 26 Jul 2009 16:05 GMT
: > i didn't get away from work 'on time to make it to the lab' one
: > day..........
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: >
: > kate

: I once had my bp taken within, oh, about 1/2 hr of a race start; it was high
: (no surprise, I was jazzed up). Had it taken again a few minutes after
: finishing and it was *low*. Both were done standing up, as I was too
: impatient to sit for the "before" & wanted the same method for the "after"
: (I have the #s around "somwhere").

: Running must open up the pipes or something -- but it can't be "running from
: the chair to the back office hurrying after the impatient nurse" it has to
: be proper running for more than that 30seconds. :-)
: bj

It depends in what kind of condition you are.  Clearly, as a runner, you
are in good condition so exercise will have less or no effect on BP.  If
you are unexercised, bending and moving around hurredly can well cause the
BP to rise.  This as happened to me.  Before my back went flooey I walked
a great dal al around the city adn movign around the doctor's office
didn't do anything to my BP.  Once I was less able to walk and exercise,
bending and walking around, even a little, can lead to a higher  BP or
pulse.

Wendy
Loretta Eisenberg - 26 Jul 2009 21:18 GMT
This must be high blood pressure month.  Everywhere I turn, it is eithe
ron the tv or in the paper.  Today, a doctor of tv said that having
blood pressure of less than 140/90 will not prevent strokes, etc., but
that having blood pressure of 140/90 and up increases the chances by
four times those of normal blood pressure.

Four times greater risk seems like a good enough reason to keep the
pressure down.

Loretta

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bgl - 27 Jul 2009 02:28 GMT
> : I once had my bp taken within, oh, about 1/2 hr of a race start; it was
> high
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> bending and walking around, even a little, can lead to a higher  BP or
> pulse.

I certainly get a bp rise from the dash-after-the-nurse exercise!
Sometimes it's so high then they get Really Concerned.

This kind of "exercise" bears no resemblance to a run when I've had time to
warm up & cruise along -- even with a finishing sprint.
bj
Tiger Lily - 26 Jul 2009 02:35 GMT
>> I am reading an article by Dr.Ted Mitchell in USA Weekend,  He said  if
>> the systolic number is 140 or higher that is high blood pressure even if
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>
> MaryL

if my BP is too high when the nurse takes it, i ask her to wait a minute

i then go thru 'relaxation techniques' and ask the nurse to try again

every time she asks me 'how do you do that?'
well...........

kate
Susan - 25 Jul 2009 17:32 GMT
> I am reading an article by Dr.Ted Mitchell in USA Weekend,  He said  if
> the systolic number is 140 or higher that is high blood pressure even if
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> Just passing this info on

The info I posted didn't discuss whether or not those numbers themselves
are risky, only that treating them *with drugs* did not improve health
outcomes.

With diet and supplemental potassium, my serious HT has given way to bp
that's usually under 120 over 68.

Susan
 
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