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High insulin levels lower testosterone by up to 25%

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Susan - 24 Jun 2009 22:31 GMT
The PCOS literature has shown for years that high insulin levels from
any source/reason, lowers steroidogenesis and binding globulin that
transports it.  Sex hormones are steroids.

Susan

Testosterone Levels Decrease after Ingestion of Sugar
The results were presented at The Endocrine Society's 91st Annual
Meeting in Washington, D.C., and what they found was that, men with low
testosterone should have their hormone levels retested after they fast
overnight because eating may transiently lower testosterone levels by as
much as 25%, a new study concludes.
"Both the incidence of low testosterone, or hypogonadism, in men and the
annual number of testosterone prescriptions are increasing, likely as a
result of the obesity epidemic and our aging population," said study
co-author Frances Hayes, MD, an endocrinologist at St. Vincent's
University Hospital in Dublin, Ireland, who did the research at
Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston. "The decision to prescribe
testosterone therapy is based on the result of a blood sample, so
obtaining an accurate measurement of testosterone is key to making a
correct diagnosis of hypogonadism."

In current guidelines for evaluating men with hypogonadism, The
Endocrine Society recommends measuring blood levels of testosterone, the
major male sex hormone, on two or more occasions in the morning, when
testosterone is highest. However, no guidelines exist on when to draw a
testosterone sample in relation to food intake, Hayes said.

Past research shows that a high level of insulin, the hormone primarily
secreted after eating, is related to low testosterone levels. Like
eating, glucose intake causes blood glucose (sugar) levels to rise,
which stimulates secretion of insulin. Hayes and her colleagues examined
the impact of a standard dose of glucose on testosterone levels in 74
men. The researchers administered the oral glucose tolerance test, a
screening test for diabetes that involves drinking a sugary solution (75
grams of pure glucose) and then measuring blood sugar levels.

Of the 74 men, 42 had normal glucose tolerance on the test, 23 had
impaired glucose tolerance (also called prediabetes) and 9 had newly
diagnosed Type 2 diabetes.

The authors found that the glucose solution decreased blood levels of
testosterone by as much as 25 percent, regardless of whether the men had
diabetes, prediabetes or normal glucose tolerance.

Two hours after glucose administration, the testosterone level remained
much lower than before the test in 73 of the 74 men, a statistically
significant difference, the authors reported. Of the 66 men who had
normal testosterone levels before the test, 10 (15 percent) became
hypogonadal at one or more time points during the test.

The results did not differ by changes in insulin levels, according to
the abstract. Other hormones that could change testosterone measurements
also did not appear to affect results. Hayes said more research is
needed to find the factor or factors responsible for this drop in
testosterone.

Because glucose intake, and likely food, decreases testosterone, she
said, "This research supports the notion that men found to have low
testosterone levels should be reevaluated in the fasting state."

The Endocrine Society's 91st Annual Meeting in Washington, D.C.
Quentin Grady - 20 Jul 2009 23:57 GMT
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>overnight because eating may transiently lower testosterone levels by as
>much as 25%, a new study concludes.

Hi Susan,

If the lowering of testosterone is transient why does it cause
concern.  Perhaps I'm misinterpreting the word 'transient' thinking it
means for a day or some other short period of time.

>"Both the incidence of low testosterone, or hypogonadism, in men and the
>annual number of testosterone prescriptions are increasing, likely as a
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>normal testosterone levels before the test, 10 (15 percent) became
>hypogonadal at one or more time points during the test.

Fascinating connection between low testosterone and t2 diabetic
symptoms.

>The results did not differ by changes in insulin levels, according to
>the abstract. Other hormones that could change testosterone measurements
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>
>The Endocrine Society's 91st Annual Meeting in Washington, D.C.

Kind regards
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Susan - 21 Jul 2009 00:40 GMT
>  If the lowering of testosterone is transient why does it cause
> concern.  Perhaps I'm misinterpreting the word 'transient' thinking it
> means for a day or some other short period of time.

Because it's more than that; it's chronic.  And chronic HPA axis
disruption ends up leading to disorder.

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> Fascinating connection between low testosterone and t2 diabetic
> symptoms.

The same pattern of eating that interferes with steroidogenesis promotes
IR and DM.

Susan
Quentin Grady - 22 Jul 2009 03:07 GMT
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>Because it's more than that; it's chronic.  And chronic HPA axis
>disruption ends up leading to disorder.

Thank you Susan for this explanation.
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>Susan

Insulin resistance is better avoided naturally.

Thanks
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Susan - 22 Jul 2009 15:22 GMT
> Insulin resistance is better avoided naturally.

Absolutely.

Susan
Peppermint Patootie - 23 Jul 2009 17:44 GMT
> Insulin resistance is better avoided naturally.

By picking better grandparental gene sets?  ;-)

PP, T2
Susan - 23 Jul 2009 22:25 GMT
> By picking better grandparental gene sets?  ;-)

I think that may be the least of it, except in extreme cases.

Susan
Quentin Grady - 24 Jul 2009 00:48 GMT
>> Insulin resistance is better avoided naturally.
>
>By picking better grandparental gene sets?  ;-)
>
>PP, T2

Hi PP,
And grand parents who passed on good habits for eating. Many people
eat as though they were preparing for a mountain climb with high
energy food such as raisins, sugar, chocolate, nuts, soft drink loaded
with sugar etc then sit around watching video games.  
High energy foods and low exercise; it is a bad recipe for producing
insulin resistance.  

If one has good grand parents they instilled the importance of eating
vegetable, lots of them.  It is true they may have eaten lard on toast
but that was not in large amounts taken of the week but more a treat.
Chicken was a treat. Most likely a hen that had gone off the lay.  
With a bit of luck they shot rabbits, collected shellfish, caught eels
and caught fish on long lines or nets. All good activities as well as
high omega-3 meats.

Hope a pattern is emerging.

Best wishes,
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Alan S - 25 Jul 2009 00:08 GMT
>Chicken was a treat. Most likely a hen that had gone off the lay.  

I recall being amazed at the amount of chicken being eaten in the USA
when I visited Biloxi as a 20yo.

Until I left home at 17 I had never eaten chicken any other way than
as a hen that had stopped laying, which did not happen a lot when we
only had about a dozen chooks.  Of course, there were very few battery
farms then and most of the people I knew also raised their own chooks
and harvested and ate their own eggs.

Nor was chicken served often in the RAAF mess in he '60s.
DaveJ - 04 Feb 2010 15:32 GMT
>The PCOS literature has shown for years that high insulin levels from
>any source/reason, lowers steroidogenesis and binding globulin that
>transports it.  Sex hormones are steroids.

Hello Susan,

Androgens such as testosterone are elevated in women with PCOS, so by "lowers
steroidogenesis" above are you talking about estrogen steroidogenesis?

OTOH, it seems very well established that SHBG is suppressed by
hyperinsulinemia, which in itself can cause big problems in men (imagine
several times the normal amount of unbound estrodial floating around) and
also seems to be a large part of the mechanism for PCOS in women.

>The results did not differ by changes in insulin levels, according to
>the abstract. Other hormones that could change testosterone measurements
>also did not appear to affect results. Hayes said more research is
>needed to find the factor or factors responsible for this drop in
>testosterone.

The "results did not differ by changes in insulin levels" statement is a
little confusing to me given the title of the thread - what exactly do they
mean by that?

Would you happen to have a link to the abstract or full text of that study?

I'm not skeptical if it sounds like it (I agree that insulin resistance can
mess up all kinds of metabolic markers), but a couple of statements need
clarification in my mind.

Thanks for the excellent info.!
 
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