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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / July 2008Is diabetes curable or controllable?
I only ask as since I have been exercising, my numbers have been much lower. If I stop exercising for say, a week or two, will they go back up? Can I get rid of diabetes altogether? Or just control it? Cindy > I only ask as since I have been exercising, my numbers have been much > lower. If I stop exercising for say, a week or two, will they go back > up? Can I get rid of diabetes altogether? Or just control it? > Cindy You can control it and manage it, but nothing is going to restore all those pancreatic beta cells you lost long before you were diagnosed and every time you eat a carb load. The good news is that the way you live to control your diabetes will improve your health related quality of life and reduce risks in every way. Susan >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >those pancreatic beta cells you lost long before you were diagnosed and >every time you eat a carb load. You can stretch the insulin further by working on the IR but agreed you can't restore the dead cells (unless of course you;re one of those damn mice) >The good news is that the way you live to control your diabetes will >improve your health related quality of life and reduce risks in every way. You know you're on the right track when not only your A1c but your lipids and BP improve >I only ask as since I have been exercising, my numbers have been much > lower. If I stop exercising for say, a week or two, will they go back > up? Can I get rid of diabetes altogether? Or just control it? > Cindy It's more likely that the exercise will help control it, but not get rid of it. http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/5068/25614/exercise-fat > I only ask as since I have been exercising, my numbers have been much > lower. If I stop exercising for say, a week or two, will they go back > up? Can I get rid of diabetes altogether? Or just control it? Cindy If you stop exercising it is almost CERTAIN that your numbers will go back up. There are a couple of promising treatments which seem to have had good success with 'curing' diabetes. But they are life threatening, and certainly not to be taken lightly. Get used to the idea that you will be diabetic for the rest of your life. BUT, as you have already found out, it is indeed controllable. > If you stop exercising it is almost CERTAIN that your numbers will go back > up. That's never been true for me. It depends upon what she eats. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Susan OK - for me it takes diet PLUS exercise and oral meds to maintain control. I drop any one of the three - up it goes. > OK - for me it takes diet PLUS exercise and oral meds to maintain control. > I drop any one of the three - up it goes. I understand that it can happen and I believe you. I just don't think that suggests in any way that it's "CERTAIN" for others. I was diabetic for many years before diagnosis, with severe peripheral neuropathies and dyslipidemia and didn't need excercise to reverse those and kidney damage (protein in urine). Exercise is always desirable, but diet alone will often, if not usually, be enough. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Susan Susan: Methinks "sufficient dieting" to maintain normal weight is often enough in the context of what you say. Larry > Susan: Methinks "sufficient dieting" to maintain normal weight is > often enough in the context of what you say. I disagree. Folks who are morbidly obese routinely control their bg with very low carb long before weight goals are achieved. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Susan But Susan... You stated earlier that "diet alone will often if not usually be enough" to maintain control". I am just adding that sufficient diet to lower weight over time to normal weight is often enough for control. In other words dieting to the point of reducing weight to normal levels is the beneficial goal for optimum control that weight status can bring. I am not suggesting that diabetes control can be accomplished only with weight control. Larry Larry > But Susan... You stated earlier that "diet alone will often if not > usually be enough" to maintain control". I am just adding that [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > that weight status can bring. I am not suggesting that diabetes > control can be accomplished only with weight control. Sorry, Larry, I thought you were suggesting that weight loss or caloric deficit was required. My bad. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Susan OK - maybe it would have been better to say "very likely". Fact is only the OP can find out whether or not it will make a difference for HER. To be on the safe side, I'd rather assume that it will. BTW - I notice little to no difference if I skip my exercise for one or two days - but after a few days, it definitely starts creeping up. > OK - maybe it would have been better to say "very likely". Fact is only > the OP can find out whether or not it will make a difference for HER. To > be on the safe side, I'd rather assume that it will. BTW - I notice little > to no difference if I skip my exercise for one or two days - but after a > few days, it definitely starts creeping up. I don't think it is very likely, though. For you, definitely, but an awful lot of folks posting here and elsewhere over the years have reported otherwise. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Susan i get 48 hours, then i have to return to my exercise sigh................ this while i have broken a toe and a bone in my foot while stepping on kidlet's scooter wheel, while walking out of the tent trailer in the dark................. boy did i land HARD kidlet is still in trouble! grrrrrrrrrrrrr  Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-chat.org www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html >i get 48 hours, then i have to return to my exercise Me too. >sigh................ this while i have broken a toe and a bone in my >foot while stepping on kidlet's scooter wheel, while walking out of the >tent trailer in the dark................. boy did i land HARD OWOWOWOW! Heal fast, that sounds SORE! Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25 >> i get 48 hours, then i have to return to my exercise > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.4% BMI 2 i just STUBBED my toe/foot on the 3rd row seats from the Suburban, that we took out for vacation MAN, that hurts (broken toe, etc) sigh off to ER tomorrow it seems, sigh Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-chat.org www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html >off to ER tomorrow it seems, sigh Hope they're bored and waiting for you... and that they can do something with it! Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25 >> off to ER tomorrow it seems, sigh > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > D&E, 100ug thyroxine > Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25 amazingly enough, the brusing has changed from florid purple/red/black/blue to slightly yellowed with some puce colour thrown in for good measure now i don't know what to do........... i guess i'll wait and see what happens when i see the GP Aug 5 sigh life goes on............ Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-chat.org www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html >>i get 48 hours, then i have to return to my exercise > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >>foot while stepping on kidlet's scooter wheel, while walking out of the >>tent trailer in the dark................. boy did i land HARD But the important thing is, did you break the scooter? >OWOWOWOW! Heal fast, that sounds SORE! Seriosuly, agreed. Sympathies >i get 48 hours, then i have to return to my exercise > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >kidlet is still in trouble! grrrrrrrrrrrrr Ow. Sorry to hear that, I hope it's a lot less painful than it sounds. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Blog http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal) >> i get 48 hours, then i have to return to my exercise >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr > http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal) tee hee it's painful!, but i'm sitting in a chair with my foot raised, and by the end of the day, i can sorta hobble around on it first thing in the morning, it brings tears to my eyes ahhhhhhhhhhhh, the wonders and joys of having kids, eh? :) Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-chat.org www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html Tiger_Lily wrote in message >sigh................ this while i have broken a toe and a bone in my >foot while stepping on kidlet's scooter wheel, while walking out of the >tent trailer in the dark................. boy did i land HARD > >kidlet is still in trouble! grrrrrrrrrrrrr Sorry to hear that Kate, I hope it heals as quickly as possible. Cheri > Tiger_Lily wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Cheri thanks Cheri! me too :) lol Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-chat.org www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html > i get 48 hours, then i have to return to my exercise > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > kidlet is still in trouble! grrrrrrrrrrrrr OWWWWCCCHHH! Feel better soon! Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Susan thanks, Susan ya know, it seems that EVERY summer something happens........... be it a florid heat rash or stinging nettles or whatever :) i GET a vacation............ can't complain Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-chat.org www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html >> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > kidlet is still in trouble! grrrrrrrrrrrrr Youch! Feel better soon, Kate! SignatureBest regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise BMI 21.5 >>> x-no-archive: yes >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Youch! Feel better soon, Kate! thanks, Michelle :) just gotta 'make an entrance' coming back from vacation, eh? :) Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-chat.org www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html >>>> x-no-archive: yes >>>> [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > just gotta 'make an entrance' coming back from vacation, eh? :) LOL! Yeah, some folks will do anything to get attention. ;-) SignatureBest regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise BMI 21.5 > LOL! Yeah, some folks will do anything to get attention. ;-) bwha ha ha well, i'd rather be able to walk :) Signaturekate type 1 since 1987 www.diabetic-chat.org www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html >just gotta 'make an entrance' coming back from vacation, eh? :) At least you GOT your vacation, a friend last year slipped on the stairs of the hotel on the first day of a walking holiday and broke her toe. >>just gotta 'make an entrance' coming back from vacation, eh? :) > >At least you GOT your vacation, a friend last year slipped on the >stairs of the hotel on the first day of a walking holiday and broke >her toe. Yeah, puts a dampener on things. Mum served in '39-'45 and always wanted to go to Gallipoli, like many of her generation over here. She never quite got there over the years and finally planned the trip and went last April. The Big Day is April 25th, with the Dawn Service on the top of the rising ground that so many died on in 1915. On the 24th she slipped and fell in the street in Turkey, broke her wrist, and missed the service. And also had to cancel the continuation trip to Europe. C'est la vie. So she came home and now the broken wrist is out of plaster. She started driving the MotorHome again last week and I've just been informed she will be off again wandering Oz in a couple of months. She is 83. Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. -- Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. Blog http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com DLife column http://tinyurl.com/5v74xr http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (The Taj Mahal) > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Susan It probably just depends on how a person utilizes diet and exercise. I for one, rely primarily on diet because I am inconsistent with exercise. However, if one gears his program to consistently include exercise then skipping it might make a difference, as it does for Ray. SignatureBest regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise BMI 21.5 >> x-no-archive: yes >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >However, if one gears his program to consistently include exercise then >skipping it might make a difference, as it does for Ray. Depends which of the many multitudes of diseases commonly called diabetes you have. Being skinny and active didn't help me much. Being a runner as well as a walker didn't help my cousin much. Being a runner swimmer triathlete and doing marathons didn't help his daughter much. Well they'd probably be worse off but they both seem to be heading down the road I already travelled albeit at different speeds, I'm trying to persuade them to back off on the carbs which is what seems to have kicked my IR into touch. OTOH there are people I am inclined to believe (ie not called Tom) who seem to make a high carb high exercise regime work. Just not very many of them. > > x-no-archive: yes > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > OK - for me it takes diet PLUS exercise and oral meds to maintain control. > I drop any one of the three - up it goes. I on the other hand know myself and know that exercise is going to be variable, due to other health issues and to the nature of my job. I *do* exercise when I can, and have ramped up my general activity level as much as I can independent of pure exercise activities. However, I don't *need* the exercise *specifically for blood sugar control*. That means that if my arthritis flares up to the extent that unloading the dishwasher is a major challenge, my blood sugar control doesn't suffer as a result. Signature"[xxx] has very definite opinions, and does not suffer fools lightly. This, apparently, upsets the fools." ---BB cuts to the pith of a flame-fest >> > x-no-archive: yes >> > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > dishwasher is a major challenge, my blood sugar control doesn't suffer > as a result. I have found that mine, generally, does not change radically on the basis of one or two days activity. But if I lay off for, say, a week - I see the result. >I only ask as since I have been exercising, my numbers have been much > lower. If I stop exercising for say, a week or two, will they go back > up? Can I get rid of diabetes altogether? Or just control it? Sorry, you can only control it. Those who say they can cure it are lying to you. In article <776c9ec7-ab36-4c1d-a186-bf94b27c9127@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, > I only ask as since I have been exercising, my numbers have been much > lower. If I stop exercising for say, a week or two, will they go back > up? Can I get rid of diabetes altogether? Or just control it? > Cindy Control. But you may be able to control it to such an extent that complications are delayed until after something else knocks you off -- like old age. That's my goal! PP, T2 > I only ask as since I have been exercising, my numbers have been much > lower. If I stop exercising for say, a week or two, will they go back > up? Can I get rid of diabetes altogether? Or just control it? > Cindy Type-2 diabetes is curable when people eat less, down to the right amount: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3558812d72ab4e17? May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus Christ as our Messiah, the Son of Man ... ... by being hungrier: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/f891e617d10bd689? Hunger is wonderful ! ! ! It's how we know what GOD desires, which is all that is good. Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve paid for with their and our immortal lives. "Blessed are you who hunger NOW... ... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21) Amen. Here is a Spirit-guided exegesis of Luke 6:21 given in hopes of promoting much greater understanding: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/cc2aa8f8a4d41360? Be hungrier, which is healthier. Marana tha Prayerfully in the awesome name of our Messiah, LORD Jesus Christ, Andrew <>< -- http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/be9939b1fe5e3ad7? >I only ask as since I have been exercising, my numbers have been much > lower. If I stop exercising for say, a week or two, will they go back > up? Can I get rid of diabetes altogether? Or just control it? > Cindy You can certainly control it, but those improved numbers do not indicate a cure. If you go back to your old habits, your BGs will zoom right back up. SignatureBest regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise BMI 21.5 You can live like you dont have it through diet and exercise and meds..but you will always be a diabetic. KROM >I only ask as since I have been exercising, my numbers have been much > lower. If I stop exercising for say, a week or two, will they go back > up? Can I get rid of diabetes altogether? Or just control it? > Cindy >I only ask as since I have been exercising, my numbers have been much >lower. If I stop exercising for say, a week or two, will they go back >up? Can I get rid of diabetes altogether? Or just control it? >Cindy at the current time, there is no cure. If anyone claims to have a cure right now, or to have cured diabetes in any form in anyone at this time or any time in the past, they are lying and should be whipped. Diabetes is controllable. SignatureMåck©® Deltec CoZmore Pumper Type 1 since 1975 http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org http://www.diabetic-talk.org http://www.insulin-pumpers.org http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/dm/pubs/type1and2/ http://www.pandora.com enter "Jason & Demarco" http://www.ratbags.com/dechunging/ "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." ...Theodore Roosevelt (o ô) --ooO-(_)-Ooo-------------------- "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." ....Bilbo Baggins DISCLAIMER If you find a posting or message from me offensive, inappropriate, or disruptive, please ignore it. If you don't know how to ignore a posting, complain to me and I will be only too happy to demonstrate... . > I only ask as since I have been exercising, my numbers have been much > lower. If I stop exercising for say, a week or two, will they go back > up? Can I get rid of diabetes altogether? Or just control it? Cure? No. Control? Yes. And you're coming along well! Keep up the good work. ;-) SignatureNick. Support severely wounded and disabled Veterans and their families! I've known US vets who served as far back as the Spanish American War. They are all my heroes! Thank a Veteran and Support Our Troops. You are not forgotten. Thanks ! ! ~Semper Fi~ |
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