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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Diabetes / July 2008Visinopril and Coughing
Hello All! I've been taking Visinopril for over two months, and during that time I've had a dry cough. It is SO ANNOYING, and totally non productive. It seems the second I try to sleep the coughing starts. I keep cloraseptic by my bed so I can numb my throat and stop the terrible tickle in my throat. So the question becomes, has anyone else had this problem, and did it ever go away? This just doesn't feel like a respitory infection... and certainly not to last this long. I know this can be one of the side affects, so I would be very interested in hearing others experience before I contact my Dr. I just can't continue with this as it's beyond an occasional cough. Thanks to all, Willy > Hello All! > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Thanks to all, That's a very commonly reported side effect of that class of drugs, ACE inhibitors. Susan > Hello All! > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Willy Are you sure you spelled the name correctly? I did a Google search for that name and here's all it found: http://drugsafetysite.com/fosinopril I'm taking a medicine with about that much difference in spelling, lisinopril, and have had a dry cough for at least 6 months, but mainly at the dinner table. However, about a month ago, I decided that I seem to be developing an allergy to bread made with yeast, and stopped eating any whenever I have a choice. This helped somewhat, but did not make the cough go away entirely. I switched to avapro from lisinirol and got zero cough now..best thing i did was switch it was a nightmare coughing all the time and having that need to cough feeling. KROM >> Hello All! >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > and stopped eating any whenever I have a choice. This helped > somewhat, but did not make the cough go away entirely. >I switched to avapro from lisinirol and got zero cough now..best thing i >did was switch it was a nightmare coughing all the time and having that [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> and stopped eating any whenever I have a choice. This helped >> somewhat, but did not make the cough go away entirely. krom: Tell me about your cough. The reason I ask is that I'm trying to be sure it's a side affect and not a lung problem. When this all started and I was diagnosed diabetic, I was actually at the Dr. for a respitory infection, and while I was there through discussion of a boil on my stomach that hadn't gone away in several weeks, we also discovered that I was diabetic. But the Dr. also put me on a Z Pack of antibiotics for the respitory problem, and within a week my cough disappeared, but then came back after 5 days and has stayed ever since. It was during that time that I started taking Lisinopril as well. My cough is totally non productive, is having a significant affect on my sleep pattern, and seems to come and go randomly, but when it arrives, it is a hellish tickle in my throat that is uncontrollable. Was yours similar? Willy >> I switched to avapro from lisinirol and got zero cough now..best >> thing i did was switch it was a nightmare coughing all the time and [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > Was yours similar? My symptoms were like yours. Change BP class meds. The ARB's are as effective as the ACE inhibitors but no cough for most people. It is just as, if not more, kidney protective in diabetics. There is no need to put up with the cough when alternatives are available. >My symptoms were like yours. Change BP class meds. The ARB's are as >effective as the ACE inhibitors but no cough for most people. It is just as, >if not more, kidney protective in diabetics. There is no need to put up with >the cough when alternatives are available. Yes it's very common. Gold Standard test would be to switch to an ARB for a month and if the cough goes away stay on it. If the cough stays it's caused by something else. >> My symptoms were like yours. Change BP class meds. The ARB's are as >> effective as the ACE inhibitors but no cough for most people. It is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > cough goes away stay on it. If the cough stays it's caused by > something else. Sometimes the cough takes a few weeks to go though. I'd give it two months. In my case the cough stopped almost immediately but that isn't always so. >>> My symptoms were like yours. Change BP class meds. The ARB's are as >>> effective as the ACE inhibitors but no cough for most people. It is [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >Sometimes the cough takes a few weeks to go though. I'd give it two months. >In my case the cough stopped almost immediately but that isn't always so. Good point! Mother's too stopped fairly quickly (and came back when they tried another one <sigh>) >>> My symptoms were like yours. Change BP class meds. The ARB's are as >>> effective as the ACE inhibitors but no cough for most people. It is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > months. In my case the cough stopped almost immediately but that isn't > always so. So even after I change, you're suggesting it could take a couple of months to go away? WOW. I was also wondering if I need to be patient and wait longer with the meds... perhaps it will go away? Did anyone find their cough disappeared after x amount of time? Willy >>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:48:16 +1000, "Ozgirl" >So even after I change, you're suggesting it could take a couple of months >to go away? WOW. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Willy hey Willy.. I just stumbled across your post and I also am taking Lisinipril and I have had this terrible cough for the last month or so. Yesterday morning, I took my last pill for a test, and my cough has virtually disappeared.! I still have an occasion tickle in the back of my throat, but I feel 100% better about the cough not being there. Last night I got my first real nights sleep in over a month. I will talk to my Dr about this drug and get changed to something else SOON..!! Thank you for starting this thread. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:48:16 +1000, "Ozgirl" > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Wow! Thanks for sharing. I did take Delsym cough medicine last evening and it completely eliminated coughing... however, who wants to take cough medicine every 12 hours because of another drug? I didn't write my Dr. yet as I'm out of town, but plan to do so. Willy >>>> My symptoms were like yours. Change BP class meds. The ARB's are as >>>> effective as the ACE inhibitors but no cough for most people. It is [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Did anyone find their cough disappeared after x amount of time? You could be lucky enough fo rit to go away straight away. My silly ex kept persevering for two years with the cough!!! A couple weeks max..not months..lol...and for me it just got worse the longer i was on it untill my bruised lungs decided to give up on me breathing...wasnt cool KROM "Willy" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote in > So even after I change, you're suggesting it could take a couple of months > to go away? WOW. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Willy >>> I switched to avapro from lisinirol and got zero cough now..best >>> thing i did was switch it was a nightmare coughing all the time and [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > as, if not more, kidney protective in diabetics. There is no need to put > up with the cough when alternatives are available. Thanks for your input Oz.. . I'm going to send my Dr. an email. I just stopped at the drugstore for some cough medicine and Tylenol PM... hopefully will get a good nights sleep in spite of it!!!! LOL Willy Gah i rembeer having to down two doses of nyquil and a slug off gaviscon ant-acid bottle and then hit the inhaller and THEN try to sleep...sucked...please get off that drug..its soo not worth it..took me about 3 weeks to get normal. But it was better everyday and those small improvments were like heaven compared to how bad things got on the lisinirol. KROM "Willy" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote > > Thanks for your input Oz.. . I'm going to send my Dr. an email. I just > stopped at the drugstore for some cough medicine and Tylenol PM... > hopefully will get a good nights sleep in spite of it!!!! LOL > > Willy > Gah i rembeer having to down two doses of nyquil and a slug off gaviscon > ant-acid bottle and then hit the inhaller and THEN try to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> Willy I took cough medicine last night Delsym (my personal favorite) and it did wonders. No coughing at all. However, I don't want to take cough meds every day because of the Lisinopril. That wouldn't make sense. Willy Exactlly...a simple change to avapro or another drug will make you not have to use the cough syrup at all. KROM "Willy" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote > I don't want to take cough meds every day because of the > Lisinopril. That wouldn't make sense. > > Willy I am sure a search of my name and cough would find my posts of me going thru what you are..it was terrible! Yes the "tickle" was driving me insane..then it progressed to a constant cough reflex with little actual cough..so that it was more a contant spasm which i can only assume tired or bruised my lungs because it got so bad i was put on a inhaler of albuterol and the cough reflex was giving me acid reflux so for a while i was drinkin a bottle of antacid a day while using a inhaler and was miserable...i switched from lisiniril to avapro and my cough and all the other problems left in a month or so...sadly it takes a while to recover from the drug. Theres no reason not to switch to a different drug to see if it fixes things. KROM > My cough is totally non productive, is having a significant affect on my > sleep pattern, and seems to come and go randomly, but when it arrives, it [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Willy >I am sure a search of my name and cough would find my posts of me going >thru what you are..it was terrible! [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> >> Willy Thanks Krom. I'm going to drop me Dr. an email in a moment. I've only been on this drug for a couple of months, so hopefully it will leave my system quickly!!!! Willy I hope so willy! Im glad you figured it out fast..i went to like 8 doctors who all KNEW i was on the drug and said nothing..it was me searching online and also coming here to learn about the drug being the cause. Thing is lisinpril is cheap and my insurance actually didnt want me to change over until my doc forced em to..the jerks. Cost me a ton of money out of pocket too..mri's etc arent cheap to learn nothing useful and then finally learnign it was some crappy cheap pills causing it left me very angry..lol KROM "Willy" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote > > Thanks Krom. I'm going to drop me Dr. an email in a moment. I've only > been on this drug for a couple of months, so hopefully it will leave my > system quickly!!!! > > Willy >I hope so willy! > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >> >> Willy Wow, what a terrible situation. I'm going to send an email to my Dr, and just tell him I've been coughing, and also that I KNOW that a side effect can be coughing etc... so he won't even try to dance around the issue - well at least, hopefully he won't Willy >> Hello All! >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > and stopped eating any whenever I have a choice. This helped > somewhat, but did not make the cough go away entirely. More on lisinopril: http://care.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/28/2/273 http://www.lisinopril.com/ <http://www.lisinopril.com/news_article/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=3608&tx_ttnews%5B backPid%5D=88&cHash=f750b1be3b> <http://www.lisinopril.com/news_article/?tx_ttnews%5Bpointer%5D=1&tx_ttnews%5Btt_ news%5D=3535&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=88&cHash=926b215989> <http://www.lisinopril.com/news_article/?tx_ttnews%5Bpointer%5D=3&tx_ttnews%5Btt_ news%5D=3528&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=88&cHash=d65e42ab26> <http://www.lisinopril.com/news_article/?tx_ttnews%5Bpointer%5D=4&tx_ttnews%5Btt_ news%5D=3516&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=88&cHash=675a873d25> <http://www.pharmaceuticalworld.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi/forum/6.html> http://www.medications.com/effect/view/24669 http://www.healthlifeplus.com/drug_info_page.php?loc=lisinopril <http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/602987/how_i_coped_with_lisinopril_side _effects.html?page=2> Some on dry coughing: http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/a/asthma/causes.htm http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/s/sleep_apnea/causes.htm http://scleroderma.jhmi.edu/patients/comprehensive-care.html http://www.metrokc.gov/health/prevcont/pertussis.htm A search engine you might want to try: http://cranky.eons.com/Cranky/search/home.jsp >>> Hello All! >>> [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > > http://cranky.eons.com/Cranky/search/home.jsp Thanks so much. These are some excellent links - I've read them all. I'm now completely convinced my cough is a result of Lisinopril. Willy >>>> Hello All! >>>> [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > Willy You're welcome. If I could get more of my medical records after changing doctors a few times, I could probably tell if mine is too. >> Hello All! >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > and stopped eating any whenever I have a choice. This helped > somewhat, but did not make the cough go away entirely. Yes, you're correct. LISINOPRIL... is what I'm taking. I must have made a typo. Willy : Hello All! : I've been taking Visinopril for over two months, and during that time I've : had a dry cough. It is SO ANNOYING, and totally non productive. It seems : the second I try to sleep the coughing starts. I keep cloraseptic by my bed : so I can numb my throat and stop the terrible tickle in my throat. : So the question becomes, has anyone else had this problem, and did it ever : go away? : This just doesn't feel like a respitory infection... and certainly not to : last this long. : I know this can be one of the side affects, so I would be very interested in : hearing others experience before I contact my Dr. I just can't continue : with this as it's beyond an occasional cough. : Thanks to all, : Willy I didn't have that reaction, but I know htat it is a well known complication. My husbnd was reently taken off his tiny dose of Listinoprill becaus I mentioned to his cardiologist that he had this high up(non-chest cough. it has now mostly gone away. Wendy > Hello All! > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > hearing others experience before I contact my Dr. I just can't continue > with this as it's beyond an occasional cough. I think you mean lisinopril. That certainly sounds like a textbook side effect, and one that my doc told me to call him immediately about if I had it. Don't hesitate to tell your doc, there are other ACE inhibitors and you might not be bothered as much by a different one. I myself have been on several different ACE inhibitors since they became popular as a preventative measure, and haven't had noticeable side effects from any. But others are different, and have side effects with some but not others, and there are some who have side effects no matter what the type of ACE inhibitor. Tim. Yes I had the cough with a "pril" med and no it didn't go away so I switched to an ARB BP med. > Hello All! > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Willy >I've been taking Visinopril for over two months, and during that time I've >had a dry cough. It is SO ANNOYING, and totally non productive. It seems [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >hearing others experience before I contact my Dr. I just can't continue >with this as it's beyond an occasional cough. Mine was when I was changed off of propranolol & onto lisinopril. Now I only have coughs if I have a cold, sinus infection, asthma attack or other upper respiratory problem going on. I'm on Avapro now. No discernible problems with changing over or side effects.  SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 "Atone?! You're forgetting who I am. I'm Dorian Lord. I don't atone." - OLTL, Dorian to Anniversary Ghost Mel, 07-21-08 On 7/22/08 8:33 PM, in article cf9d84h0p3cqvglk5tkoqpm44h94g606dr@4ax.com, >> I've been taking Visinopril for over two months, and during that time I've >> had a dry cough. It is SO ANNOYING, and totally non productive. It seems [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > respiratory problem going on. I'm on Avapro now. No discernible problems with > changing over or side effects. I developed a cough after being on Altace for years. Neither the doctor nor I could figure out if it was the ACE or my asthma. She was going to change me to an ARB to check. It was just before I was going to Australia and my travel insurance doesn't allow any changes for one year before the insurance date or it wouldn't cover that particular problem. I said let's wait until I get home. Well within one day of being in Australia my cough stopped. When I got home I was able to tell her it wasn't the ACE it was some pollen or other causing my asthma to act up. I'm certainly not saying it's not the ACE. I just want to point out it could be something else. SignatureMartha T2 Canada 1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia > On 7/22/08 8:33 PM, in article cf9d84h0p3cqvglk5tkoqpm44h94g606dr@4ax.com, > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > could > be something else. And that's my concern as well, particularly since I'm a light smoker... but a smoker none the less. I'm just a little concerned it might be an allergy, although taking Claritin did nothing to help. Willy >> On 7/22/08 8:33 PM, in article cf9d84h0p3cqvglk5tkoqpm44h94g606dr@4ax.com, > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >a smoker none the less. I'm just a little concerned it might be an allergy, >although taking Claritin did nothing to help. Well, one, stop smoking. I did. One of the hardest things I've ever done. I guess you hear that & I won't harp. <G> And, two, go to an allergist & find out for sure what's going on on that front. I had one really bad situation with one allergist. (Old School) But, the one I'm seeing now is a lifesaver. She listens & she gets it. She changed my meds & it helped, at least for 6 months. I have to get an appointment soon to see her again & see if anything needs to be tweaked. Signature: ^> DonnaB <*> http://tinyurl.co.uk/h193 http://tinyurl.co.uk/wdp8 http://tinyurl.co.uk/byv9 "We are not held back by the love we didn't receive in the past, but by the love we're not extending in the present." - Marianne Williamson, A RETURN TO LOVE > On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:35:01 -0400, in > <7%Qhk.31035$co7.7309@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com> "Willy" <wesk@prodigy.net> [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > TO > LOVE If quitting were the problem, I would have been successful perhaps a hundred times. it's STAYING QUIT that's the problem!!!! LOL Willy >> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:35:01 -0400, in >> <7%Qhk.31035$co7.7309@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com> "Willy" <wesk@prodigy.net> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> months. I have to get an appointment soon to see her again & see if >> anything needs to be tweaked. I am horrified that she can't see me until September something, after Labor Day. Here, the tough appointments to get are with allergists & OB/GYNs. >If quitting were the problem, I would have been successful perhaps a hundred >times. it's STAYING QUIT that's the problem!!!! LOL Oh, yeah, me, too. AFTER I quit for good, which I knew inside me was that 'this is the time' immediately, after a time I actually believed people that those other times weren't exactly failures, they were rehearsals. I taught myself - in a crazy trial & error method - what would work for me. I quit for 4 years. I quit for 1 year. I quit for 6-8 months many times. I quit for 3-4 months most often before ... March 9, 1991, a Thursday, at about 3 or 4 in the afternoon. <G> SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 "Make yourself an honest man, and then you may be sure there is one less rascal in the world." - Thomas Carlyle > If quitting were the problem, I would have been successful perhaps a > hundred times. it's STAYING QUIT that's the problem!!!! LOL > > Willy The secret is *NOT BUYING* them if you haven't got em ya can't smoke em :-) P.S. Willy please note snipping to shorten post :-) (- -) =m=(_)=m= RodS T2 Australia >> If quitting were the problem, I would have been successful perhaps a >> hundred times. it's STAYING QUIT that's the problem!!!! LOL [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > RodS T2 > Australia Not buying them isn't enough for everyone. I saw someone who, for a few weeks, was not buying any, but a few times a day, he'd bum one off someone else, smoke it, then quit again. He finally quit for about 2 months so far. >P.S. Willy please note snipping to shorten post :-) > > (- -) >=m=(_)=m= >RodS T2 >Australia A good reminder to all of us at times!! SignatureDonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*> new WIN Vista user 06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg Current ................... HbA1c 6.3 "Two pessimists met at a party. Instead of shaking hands, they shook heads." - Chicago Tribune >If quitting were the problem, I would have been successful perhaps a hundred >times. it's STAYING QUIT that's the problem!!!! LOL Allen Carr's book worked for me - plus getting fed up with coughing and feeling vile in the morning. I gave up as a 40th birthday present to myself. 3rd or 4th time lucky, that was : ) Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25 |
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