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At work - BG is 59
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CindyB - 20 May 2008 18:20 GMT Hi, I got to work today and felt really weird. Kinda dizzy and just a fuzzy brain. I lost my health insurance and ran out of strips a while back, but I decided to go buy some a few minutes ago. It is 10:15 am and my BG is 59. I know normal is 70 - 140, so this is pretty low. I had a bag of peanuts in the car and am eating those now. I had some wheat toast and peanut butter for breakfast so not sure why so low. Bug! Cindy
Tiger_Lily - 20 May 2008 18:57 GMT > Hi, > I got to work today and felt really weird. Kinda dizzy and just a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Bug! > Cindy normal is 70-110
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tehminasmazher@gmail.com - 20 May 2008 19:27 GMT > > Hi, > > I got to work today and felt really weird. Kinda dizzy and just a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > kate > type 1 since 1987www.diabetic-talk.orghttp://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html Any thing below 65 is termed as low blood sugar or hypoglycemia. Untreated hypoglycemia can lead to several complications. To know more about hypoglycemia visit http://www.reddiabetes.com/Hypoglycemia.html
CindyB - 20 May 2008 23:32 GMT > > > Hi, > > > I got to work today and felt really weird. Kinda dizzy and just a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thanks for the link. :) It was pretty interesting and definitely sounds like what happened today.
Michelle C - 20 May 2008 19:38 GMT Hi Cindy,
My guess would be that the toast spiked your BG--in spite of the peanut butter--hence the hypo. If I eat a piece of wheat toast, I get a spike in the range of 80-100 points. Guaranteed to cause a hypo when my body finally figures I've gone that high and dumps a ton of insulin to take care of it.
You might be better off with a low carb tortilla and peanut butter.
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> Hi, > I got to work today and felt really weird. Kinda dizzy and just a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Bug! > Cindy CindyB - 20 May 2008 21:11 GMT > Hi Cindy, > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > - Show quoted text - It was weird and out of the blue. I will try the tortilla next time. I still feel crummy and it is now at 73, after eating. Usually I am in the 150's +, so this is just weird. Bug!
Priscilla H. Ballou - 20 May 2008 22:35 GMT In article <346ed26e-41ff-486e-bb66-7a9921eb415a@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
> > Hi Cindy, > > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > I still feel crummy and it is now at 73, after eating. Usually I am > in the 150's +, so this is just weird. Bug! Why do you expect different results by putting the carbs into another form? Why eat the carbs at all? Have eggs, cheese, meat... just not starches.
Priscilla, T2
Michelle C - 20 May 2008 22:49 GMT > In article > <346ed26e-41ff-486e-bb66-7a9921eb415a@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Priscilla, T2 I suggested a "low carb" tortilla--not just a tortilla. The low carb fajita size tortillas have about 5 carbs. I hope Cindy noted the emphasis on "low carb". Was trying to suggest an easy substitute for her.
(Sorry--I confused the thread. I top-posted the first time--still getting used to my new newsreader set-up.)
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Michelle C - 20 May 2008 22:52 GMT > Hi Cindy, > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > - Show quoted text - It was weird and out of the blue. I will try the tortilla next time. I still feel crummy and it is now at 73, after eating. Usually I am in the 150's +, so this is just weird. Bug!
Cindy,
Yep, reactive hypoglycemia is the gift that keeps on giving--you feel crappy even after your BG is back in normal territory. You do realize that being in the 150's + is higher than you want to be, don't you?
Be sure to use a "low carb" tortilla. Just substituting a regular tortilla won't help the problem.
 Signature Best regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise BMI 21.5
CindyB - 20 May 2008 23:24 GMT > > Hi Cindy, > [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Hi, I still feel awful and left work early as I just couldn't function. I came home and slept as I was so tired. I feel hung over. I am sure I will feel better tomorrow. Usually I can eat wheat toast with peanut butter and it isn't a problem...after today, though, I won't do that again. I will look for the low carb tortillas next time I hit the store. Tomorrow I am having eggs. :) I know 150 is high, but at least I don't feel so dragged down at 150. This threw me off big time today. When I was at work, it felt like an elevator went down the inside of me and then wiped out all my energy. I have never had that happen. Man, before I just worried about it being too high, now I have to worry about it being too low. grrrr. But, I will start again tomorrow and hope it turns out better than today.
Michelle C - 21 May 2008 00:37 GMT > "CindyB" <ski4ci...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Hi, I still feel awful and left work early as I just couldn't function. I came home and slept as I was so tired. I feel hung over. I am sure I will feel better tomorrow. Usually I can eat wheat toast with peanut butter and it isn't a problem...after today, though, I won't do that again. I will look for the low carb tortillas next time I hit the store. Tomorrow I am having eggs. :) I know 150 is high, but at least I don't feel so dragged down at 150. This threw me off big time today. When I was at work, it felt like an elevator went down the inside of me and then wiped out all my energy. I have never had that happen. Man, before I just worried about it being too high, now I have to worry about it being too low. grrrr. But, I will start again tomorrow and hope it turns out better than today.
Hi Cindy,
I know how you feel. I've been there many times before myself--until I finally figured out what was going on. I'd do anything not to have that feeling, which is why I keep my diet consistently low carb.
If you were a little more stringent with your diet, your BGs wouldn't get so high that your body pumps out the excess insulin to compensate. I know you're used to running higher, but it is taking its toll. The fact that you're having a reactive hypoglycemia episode shows that. Even though you've done "okay" (meaning no reactive hypoglycemia) with the toast before, since you've let your BGs run high, your pancreas is under stress, sustaining more damage. Now you're BGs are getting higher on the same diet you've been eating, and the pancreas is over-compensating. You need to take the stress off the pancreas.
If you simply can't manage to low carb, then consider more meds. The point is to keep your BGs in normal range so that your condition doesn't worsen.
Good idea on the eggs!
 Signature Best regards, Michelle C., T2 diet & exercise BMI 21.5
CindyB - 21 May 2008 02:34 GMT > > "CindyB" <ski4ci...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 95 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I am seriously about to cry. I fell back asleep after my last post and just woke up. My BG is 65 now. I just feel soooo exhausted. Michelle, you mentioned more meds, but I don't have insurance or meds as I don't have a doctor - you guys are kind of it. I was so fuzzy this morning when I ate the peanuts, but now it makes sense not to. All I could think was not to eat sugar or carbs. Now I know if it gets low, that sugar and carbs are ok. Right? I feel kind of depressed about this today, which I am sure will pass, but I just want to cry from being so frustrated. I have been exercising and trying to eat right and then this happened. Sigh. I will start tomorrow in a better way (Keep fingers crossed). :)
Julie Bove - 21 May 2008 02:48 GMT I am seriously about to cry. I fell back asleep after my last post and just woke up. My BG is 65 now. I just feel soooo exhausted. Michelle, you mentioned more meds, but I don't have insurance or meds as I don't have a doctor - you guys are kind of it. I was so fuzzy this morning when I ate the peanuts, but now it makes sense not to. All I could think was not to eat sugar or carbs. Now I know if it gets low, that sugar and carbs are ok. Right? I feel kind of depressed about this today, which I am sure will pass, but I just want to cry from being so frustrated. I have been exercising and trying to eat right and then this happened. Sigh. I will start tomorrow in a better way (Keep fingers crossed). :)
Eat some carbs. Something with little to no fat in it. Or drink a little bit of juice or milk if you have it. Keep some sugar with you at all times. I keep Smarties in my purse. It could be that you are coming down with something. Normally when I am getting sick, my BG goes higher, but when I had the flu this winter, I had some hypos. You just never know.
Peanuts are a good thing to eat to prevent hypos between meals. Not so good to treat them. Not enough carbs and too much fat.
Tiger_Lily - 21 May 2008 04:03 GMT > I am seriously about to cry. I fell back asleep after my last post and > just woke up. My BG is 65 now. I just feel soooo exhausted. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > right and then this happened. Sigh. I will start tomorrow in a > better way (Keep fingers crossed). :) Cindy, 15 grams of carbs, wait 15 min and retest to make sure your bg is rising not dropping
in the US, smarties are good for this, or you can get lucozade or the other brand of quick acting glucose tabs (sorry, forget the name of them)
make sure you wait 15 min........ yes..... you will be ravenous and feel like crap......... set a timer if you have to
if you are still low after 15 min (and dropping) take another 15 grams of QUICK carbs (1/2 a regular pop if you can stop at 1/2, or buy those small cans of pop)
good luck!
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W. Baker - 21 May 2008 14:32 GMT : store. Tomorrow I am having eggs. :) I know 150 is high, but at : least I don't feel so dragged down at 150. This threw me off big time [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : to worry about it being too low. grrrr. But, I will start again : tomorrow and hope it turns out better than today.
: Hi Cindy,
: I know how you feel. I've been there many times before myself--until I : finally figured out what was going on. I'd do anything not to have that : feeling, which is why I keep my diet consistently low carb.
: If you were a little more stringent with your diet, your BGs wouldn't get so : high that your body pumps out the excess insulin to compensate. I know [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] : you've been eating, and the pancreas is over-compensating. You need to take : the stress off the pancreas.
: If you simply can't manage to low carb, then consider more meds. The point : is to keep your BGs in normal range so that your condition doesn't worsen.
: Good idea on the eggs! cindy,
When your body is used to running high, like the 150 all he time, when it hits a normal number(not the 56!) it thinks that your bg's are low and you get all the lousy feelings of a hypo. I had that early in my attempts to control my diabees shortly after diagnosis. I was dizzy, weak, etc and when I checked my bgs I was at 80, a normal reading.
this MAY be part of why you feel so crappy , dull, etc. also, whenever your numbers drop fast, even if they are not low, you can get that awful feeling. Eventually, if you keep your numbers in a close to normal range your body learns andstops feeling so crappy.
Wendy
dumb_fishie99 - 21 May 2008 14:53 GMT I have a question for cindy: have you ever gone t o diabetes education?
regardingL-carnitine: I really want to take it, but unfortunately I am one of those people it does not agree with, same as some peopel get the runs from metformin. I am really bummed about it too. I tired every weird kind of L-carnitine out there, and I can;t handle any of it.
Susan - 21 May 2008 15:01 GMT > I have a question for cindy: have you ever gone t o diabetes > education? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > runs from metformin. I am really bummed about it too. I tired every > weird kind of L-carnitine out there, and I can;t handle any of it. I can't take it either, it causes adrenal suppression in me. You might want to discuss your reaction to it with an endo, because it's suggesting of HPA axis abnormality, something I have:
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Susan
CindyB - 21 May 2008 16:53 GMT > I have a question for cindy: have you ever gone t o diabetes > education? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > runs from metformin. I am really bummed about it too. I tired every > weird kind of L-carnitine out there, and I can;t handle any of it. Hi, Unfortunately, I haven't taken any classes. I am a single mom, I work full-time about an hour away from home, take care of the kids and then write at night for some extra money. I missed a few hours of work yesterday and I will see that in my paycheck. I don't have insurance so I can't go to a doctor, unless I go to the emergency room, and I can't take any classes. I have learned a lot from you guys and I am so thankful for all of your help. I woke up this morning and it was 58 so I had some juice and then some eggs. It used to be around 140 or so in the morning so this is just weird to me. I just feel like a little fuzzy, but not as bad as yesterday. I have changed about 95% of the way I used to eat and I exercise and am really trying to take care of myself. That is why yesterday threw me for such a loop. I appreciate the links you guys send and I check them out. :) Cindy
Priscilla H. Ballou - 21 May 2008 18:18 GMT In article <76a6577c-79e1-4679-aeee-5d0ce15e7e4e@z24g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> It used to be around 140 or so > in the morning so this is just weird to me. It may for a week or so, but just hang in and your body will become adjusted to healthier levels. :-)
As my beloved endo (who left the state *sniff*) used to say, "It's a marathon, not a sprint."
Priscilla, T2
Trinkwasser - 21 May 2008 20:49 GMT >> "CindyB" <ski4ci...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > >Good idea on the eggs! Yup, sounds to me like a reactive low following an unnoticed high, when I do (did) that my GLUT-4 receptors would have a fit so even when the BG had normalised the glucose still didn;t seem to want to go into the muscles hence that drawn out crappiness.
Best treatment for such a low is a *small* dose of fast carbs to bring the BG back up *and* a larger dose of slow carbs (oatcakes, ryebread plus fat) to keep it from dropping again. Nuts wouldn't really work, not enough carbs. However overdoing it doesn't work either, my cup of sweet coffee/orange juice plus a slice of Healthy Wholegrain bread was a good attempt in retrospect but total overkill and set off the dreaded cycling. Now I know to be a tad more subtle.
Alan S - 20 May 2008 23:51 GMT >It was weird and out of the blue. I will try the tortilla next time. >I still feel crummy and it is now at 73, after eating. Usually I am >in the 150's +, so this is just weird. Bug! And, from your earlier post:
>I got to work today and felt really weird. Kinda dizzy and just a >fuzzy brain. I lost my health insurance and ran out of strips a while [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >wheat toast and peanut butter for breakfast so not sure why so low. >Bug! Cindy, in my opinion you spiked very high after that breakfast and then went reactively low on the overswing.
Further, the bag of peanuts is pretty useless to correct a low; if it happens again eat or drink something carby - a glass of fruit juice, or a slice of bread, a piece of fruit, some smarties - but peanuts were a waste of time.
"Usually I am in the 150's +" is not good at all.
Please read this link: http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/test-review-adjust.html
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
Angkor Wat http://loraltravel.blogspot.com
Susan - 20 May 2008 21:47 GMT > Hi, > I got to work today and felt really weird. Kinda dizzy and just a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Bug! > Cindy Because you had toast for breakfast, most likely.
Next time try PB without toast.
Or eggs, or cheese, or meat, or cottage cheese...
Susan
Ozgirl - 21 May 2008 10:18 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Or eggs, or cheese, or meat, or cottage cheese... On the rare occasions I do have regular wheat toast I find the spike is greatly reduced the more protein I eat. For example 3 eggs would stop a spike from 1 slice of wheat toast whereas 1 egg wouldn't. But I still prefer my morning carbs to come from low carb veggies.
Alan S - 21 May 2008 10:28 GMT >On the rare occasions I do have regular wheat toast I find the spike is >greatly reduced the more protein I eat. For example 3 eggs would stop a >spike from 1 slice of wheat toast whereas 1 egg wouldn't. But I still prefer >my morning carbs to come from low carb veggies. Interesting; I hadn't considered increasing protein for that effect. Something to consider.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
Angkor Wat http://loraltravel.blogspot.com
Ozgirl - 21 May 2008 11:27 GMT >> On the rare occasions I do have regular wheat toast I find the spike >> is greatly reduced the more protein I eat. For example 3 eggs would [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Interesting; I hadn't considered increasing protein for that > effect. Something to consider. It came about accientally. I have oestrogen dominance. I needed to balance a number of things and raising protein and lowering carbs has had a profound effect on menopausal symptoms. Over stimulation of oestrogen can be helped by increasing the activity of an enzyme system called cytochrome P450. Protein increases that activity and I eat protein at every main meal.
Hyperinsulemia is also dangerous as it interferes with deactiving metabolic active oestradiol so it makes sense to lower carbs for that reason which in turn can mean protein is also increased (which I have done).
Over production of insulin also helps produce inflammatory eicosanoids. Imbalanced eicosanoids were causing me all kinds of women's grief which in turned stressed me which started a vicious circle of overproduction of the stress hormones (adrenaline and cortisol) which caused imbalance of the eicosanoids.
So a small change in diet, lowering the carbs a bit more and adding more protein had a vast positive effect on my endocrine system with regards to impending menopause.
Now, aren't you glad you commented? :)
So in a nutshell, to keep everything in balance (bg's, eicosanoids and hormones):
Eat regularly (no skipping meals)
Eat high quality and nutrient rich foods
Protein at every meal
Cut down or avoid high GI and refined carbs (that includes alcohol)
Keep grains to a minimum
Eat a wide variety of vegetable and low GI fruits a day
Eat healthy fats every day (omega 3 and 6 are the two essential fatty acids). I am eating much more fish these days.
Wipe trans fats from the diet and don't see sat fat as the threat that was hung on us years ago
Take care of the mitochondria (L-carnitine is essential here)
All pretty much what a lot of ASD'ers are doing for bg control and good health.
Alan S - 21 May 2008 12:11 GMT >>> On the rare occasions I do have regular wheat toast I find the spike >>> is greatly reduced the more protein I eat. For example 3 eggs would [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >All pretty much what a lot of ASD'ers are doing for bg control and good >health. All makes sense. Never heard of refined carbs including alcohol though; I must admit I got lost in the middle of the hormones, menopause was never a major interest of mine...but I believe you:-)
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia. d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter. -- http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com Latest:What to Eat Until You Get Your Meter.
Angkor Wat http://loraltravel.blogspot.com
Nicky - 21 May 2008 23:19 GMT >Now, aren't you glad you commented? :) I'm glad he did :P Interesting post, thanks! Explains why my perimenopause went away as soon as I had gone low carb.
Nicky. T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid D&E, 100ug thyroxine Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25
Chris Malcolm - 22 May 2008 11:39 GMT >>On the rare occasions I do have regular wheat toast I find the spike is >>greatly reduced the more protein I eat. For example 3 eggs would stop a >>spike from 1 slice of wheat toast whereas 1 egg wouldn't. But I still prefer >>my morning carbs to come from low carb veggies.
> Interesting; I hadn't considered increasing protein for that > effect. Something to consider. How do you know it was the protein that was doing it? There's nearly as much fat as protein in an egg, and we know that fat reduces carbohydrate spikes.
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Susan - 22 May 2008 15:09 GMT >>>On the rare occasions I do have regular wheat toast I find the spike is >>>greatly reduced the more protein I eat. For example 3 eggs would stop a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > as much fat as protein in an egg, and we know that fat reduces > carbohydrate spikes. Protein, especially fish, has a much higher insulin index than carbs do, so it should both sustain normal, level bg and slow, steady insulin secretion.
Fat stimulates neither insulin nor glucagon.
Susan
Ozgirl - 21 May 2008 10:11 GMT > Hi, > I got to work today and felt really weird. Kinda dizzy and just a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Bug! > Cindy How much wheat toast? Bread carbs at breakfast would raise me then drop me.
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